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 No.10836 [Last50 Posts]

http://slatestarcodex.com/2017/10/15/were-there-dark-ages/#comment-556644

Is this offensive or Culture War-ish at all? What?

Fine I will be mostly on LW then. I have my own rationalist forum as well which welcomes anyone.

http://rationalitycorner.freeforums.net/

Have fun!

We don't censor any view as long as they are rational.

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 No.10837

RC is a free speech rationalist forum that does not censor any view. However any view needs to be rationally justified.

Another house rule: Be civil. Don't use racial slurs even if you are advocating for National Socialism.

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 No.10838

We welcome anyone from SJWs to National Socialists and from radical feminists to MRA.

I don't care about your view as long as you are willing to have it examined in good faith.

As I said before I'm very pro-Jewish and have an unusual combination of views. However I welcome any rationalist. :-)

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 No.10839

As the Jewish reactionary Franklin Schmidt said several years ago, the Enlightenment has ended.

Be alert and be prepared for the worst, my fellow rationalists and rat-adjacents.

Neither the Cathedral nor the traditional irrationalists have the solution to the problem of finding a way to make intellectualism and social stability compatible.

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 No.10840

>>10836

What was your warning?

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 No.10841

>>10840

https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/10/01/open-thread-85-5/#comment-551778

If mere analysis of National Socialism without supporting it can be a problem then intellectualism is dead and all kinds of woo rules.

http://rationalitycorner.freeforums.net/thread/13/new-dark-age-coming?page=1&scrollTo=38

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 No.10842

I don't blame Scott though. He is already under serious pressure for not always being PC. He can not afford to offend the SJW Mob.

Anyway please come to my forum if you want some nice rational chat with a username. We welcome everyone no matter how immoral their views are.

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 No.10843

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>>10842

Oh my gah!!! Why don't you just keep using /ratanon/ where at least some other people post?

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 No.10844

>>10843

LOL I will of course stay here. However there are no usernames hence it is really hard to determine whether two posts were even written by the same person.

I also run /rationality according to my free speech + keep morality out approach.

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 No.10845

>>10844

>However there are no usernames hence it is really hard to determine whether two posts were even written by the same person

You don't really get how this "anonymous imageboard" thing is supposed to work, do you?

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 No.10846

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>>10844

>However there are no usernames hence it is really hard to determine whether two posts were even written by the same person.

You don't need usernames for that. Automatically generated thread-unique IDs are sufficient.

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 No.10847

Easily the worst poster since bintchaos and jill, I'm amazed you lasted this long.

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 No.10850

>>10847

You think I get along with liberals? I don't.

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 No.10853

>>10847

Someone please le redpill me on bintchaos? :^)

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 No.10860

>>10847

What did I do so that you hate me? I don't promote leftism even if I indeed acted like an HBD-lite on SSC. I don't like antisemitism with the typical HBD reason, namely Ashkenazis have high IQ.

So what's wrong?

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 No.10861

>>10860

Do you understand that the quality of a post isn't decided solely by the opinion it tries to promote?

Mind you, I don't like your opinions either, but they aren't the largest issue here.

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 No.10865

>>10861

>Do you understand that the quality of a post isn't decided solely by the opinion it tries to promote?

>Mind you, I don't like your opinions either, but they aren't the largest issue here.

Sure!

Could you please let me know why you dislike my opinions and posts?

I take criticisms well so please just be blunt in a way autists can understand.

As for the so-called Jewish problem it does not exist. Instead the problem of non-Jews refusing to emulate Jews and their success does exist. Might is right.

On the other hand as other HBDers said the global black underachievement problem is very real and has the potential to destroy human progress.

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 No.10866

Yes it's cultural war-ish. The idiocracy stuff is a dog whistle to the hard biological determinists and the woo business is an FU to Christians. He did say he'd ban you at the slightest violation.

As for why you are a terrible poster: your posts just assume that everyone should care what you think. "I believe Jews are great" No one cares. "I believe Autists should have their own planet" No one cares. "On the imaginary autist planet that only exists or will ever exist in my head there are sex robots" No one cares.

Good posts provide new information, make interesting and novel arguments, are funny – something.

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 No.10867

>>10866

Really thanks! I will keep that in mind in the future. I'm always in good faith though I may mess up.

I really did not intend the post to be CWish. The dog-whistling wasn't even intended. I was just venting about autistic STEM nerds not getting chicks as usual instead of promoting any racialist ideology. I always oppose woo which does not inherently include theism. I'm an agnostic/skeptic, not a strong atheist. In fact any tribal or universal moral or ideology is woo.

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 No.10868

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>>10847

Would someone mind telling the stories of bintchaos and Jill?

I know that bintchaos was some kind of deep-cover SJW, but I've never heard of Jill.

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 No.10869

>>10868

LOL at your graphs.

Want to start a debate either here or on my site?

Chadism is irrational and evil.

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 No.10870

>>10867

>. I was just venting about autistic STEM nerds not getting chicks as usual

Why? Might makes right, you said.

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 No.10871

>>10868

Look, you need to defend your views rationally.

Libtards are just secular Christians. A follower of Darwin must reject both.

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 No.10873

>>10870

Sure. However we can also use our intelligence and lack of conformity to get things done.

I'm asexual so I don't even care about chicks. Otherwise I would certainly spend a thousand bucks in Nevada to taste what a girl is like. Libtards can scream "MUH PROSTITUTION IS OPPRESSIONZ!" and as a good moral minimalist I couldn't care less and point at the fact that prostitutes are legal and voluntary. Then I would get a mail order bride to be a long-term prostitute. LOL. Feminists can scream but do you think I would care?

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 No.10874

By that question I meant more like why is it even something to vent about, as though it's some sort of bad thing. This darwinism thing you have seems to be nothing but a status-quo bias you selectively apply and I can't take it seriously.

I enjoy the way Nick Land writes about muh social darwinism here http://www.xenosystems.net/hell-baked/

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 No.10876

>>10874

I don't really have a status quo bias. I never advocate for submitting to those who are in power. Instead I'm all for making ourselves powerful. On the sexual issue for example the status quo does not favor autists. However we can try to change it. Might is right. Whoever that is mighty enough can rewrite the rules. Hence be mighty.

Nick Land is right that progress is made in hell. It is not pleasant to hear but it is true. The only way to make the universe a less cruel place is to take over it and then find loopholes to rewrite its physical laws if possible or use other means to do so. Might is right.

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 No.10878

If the universe is hell and we want to make it less hellish then we must somehow literally take over the universe and then abolish its cruelty.

Might is right. Nobody who likes to give you mercy has been observed. However nobody who enjoys torturing sentient beings above all has been observed either. As long as there are no deities who intentionally keep the universe hellish I believe we might be able to transform at least some parts of it into something benign.

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 No.10881

>>10836

SSCers like to larp as autists but they highly dislike actual ones.

Autists are often obsessive retards but they also have (and share) interesting perspectives and are first to call a naked emperor for what it is. They keep normies away. You know a place is lame when they worry about weirdness points instead of shocking outsiders on purpose, for filtering and protection.

You have to be a mild, domesticated autist not to get banned on SSC. Limit yourself to talk about trains or battleships and you'll do fine. Remember these bugmen are cooperation fetishists.

Much of this is because of the culture wars, they negatively impact both: The autist becomes obsessed with stupid shit like TRP (TRP is true btw, just not something worthy of obsession) and normies become even more intolerant of everything. A list of haram topics, words, attitudes, etc. that changes every week appears almost designed to hurt the autistic. It doesn't help that some of the most interesting topics are considered downright heresy by >50%.

That said you still need to get better at bullshit if you want most people to bother with you and you need to get better at insight if you want people that don't care about bullshit to bother with you.

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 No.10883

>>10881

LOL then intellectualism is truly dead. Be ready for a renewed idiocracy.

Let's go to a real rationalist forum and get the more sane members of OB, LW and SSC there.

Yeah I'm too busy to write a nice open-minded rationalist blog. Meanwhile let's gather here and on RC. I don't really like the name of RC. In the future we can do something else.

If you want free speech that can not even be seen by normies please use the pm feature on RC. :-)

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 No.10888

>>10881

cooperation is actually good though. but getting autists to do so is herding cats, and not often worth it

rest of the post is spot on. as a retarded autist, I love comfy anon chan chat and keeping normalniggers out of it.

Blending in with normies has its perks. I feel like the easiest socioeconomic class to blend in with is probably the one that's a step below people who go to university.

>>10883

I'm not joining the rationalist autist forum, because this place is already it.

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 No.10892

>cooperation is actually good though. but getting autists to do so is herding cats, and not often worth it

>rest of the post is spot on. as a retarded autist, I love comfy anon chan chat and keeping normalniggers out of it.

>Blending in with normies has its perks. I feel like the easiest socioeconomic class to blend in with is probably the one that's a step below people who go to university.

Normies and conformists can go to hell. If I design transhumans I will certainly abolish conformism and irrationality. Oh and social signalling, etc. Basically I want to abolish neurotypicality.

We do need to sometimes pretend to blend into normies. However we must remain ourselves.

>I'm not joining the rationalist autist forum, because this place is already it.

Sure! However I think gathering people with accounts is better. Furthermore normie irrationazis may sometimes monitor this place. On the other hand my pm is free from irrationazism.

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 No.10893

Furthermore it is clear that we autists aren't retarded. That word is reserved for irrational normies.

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 No.10895

>>10881

>You know a place is lame when they worry about weirdness points instead of shocking outsiders on purpose, for filtering and protection.

The two aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, I'd say that most places that use shock as a barrier to entry are policed for weirdness and condition their new members to police each other. It is a survival behavior that places are selected for.

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 No.10896

>>10865

>Might is right.

>>10876

>Might is right.

>>10878

>Might is right.

>>10812

>Might is right.

>Again might is right.

>>10826

>I believe that might makes right (MMR) because it is the view compatible with nature.

>>10879

>Might is right.

Did you get this from Moldbug, anon?

You should work on making your phrasing less repetitive.

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 No.10898

>>10888

>I feel like the easiest socioeconomic class to blend in with is probably the one that's a step below people who go to university.

Why? Do you think they have weaker or more flexible social norms than the rest?

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 No.10900

>>10881

> You know a place is lame when they worry about weirdness points instead of shocking outsiders on purpose, for filtering and protection.

By lame you mean not-totally-irrelevant, right?

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 No.10902

>>10900

Relevance is overrated and not something the SSC's comment section has anyway.

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 No.10903

Three autistic/truthseeking principles for the rationalist community

https://8ch.net/rationality/res/7.html

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 No.10904

>>10903

>flags

What are you doing?

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 No.10905

>>10904

Providing an alternative set of rules for the rationalist community.

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 No.10906

>>10904

Yeah I will get rid of the flags. They aren't useful for us rats.

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 No.10907

>>10904

If that's your goal, are you going to enable IDs?

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 No.10908

>>10907

Shall we? What do you think?

I just want /rationality to be a more formal and structured version of /ratanon .

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 No.10914

LOL this one is golden!

https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/10/18/open-thread-86-75/#comment-557532

Ideological diversity? Yeah banning me is certainly good for ideological diversity lol.

Well.. is fairly good though.

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 No.10926

>>10914

>Ideological diversity? Yeah banning me is certainly good for ideological diversity lol.

SSC is not all about you.

You can have good ideological diversity without making it the single terminal goal.

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 No.10933

>>10926

Agreed. Hence this autist has started his own hardcore rationalist forums.

If you are there please let posters there know that I'm alive, well and on /rationality as well as RationalityCorner.

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 No.11077

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 No.11080

>>11077

mitchellporter's and others' comments on that blog post are so much better than the post itself. In fact, the post looks almost as though it was tailor-made to provoke responses that present SSC/LW in the best possible light. If I were a somewhat paranoid feminist, I'd entertain the possibility it was a false flag to inoculate the readership in anticipation of real feminist attacks on rationalists.

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 No.11097

>>10914

Autists should be purged from any rationalist forum.

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 No.11101

>>11097

LOL no. On the other hand, it is hard to see how extremely neurotypical people can actually be rational.

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 No.11107

>>11101

All intelligent people are neurotypical. Deal with it.

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 No.11111

>>11107

Wrong, because I'm a really smart autist.

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 No.11113

>>11107

>really neurotypical

>rational

topkek

Most rational and intelligent people are a bit autistic.

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 No.11115

>the group I just so happen to belong to is the one that's best able to find the objective truth

I'm autistic myself, but that seems like the kind of conclusion you need to be extremely careful with. Don't trust yourself.

Alternative hypothesis: neurotypicals and autists have different sets of biases. There are more neurotypicals and being neurotypical is the norm, so neurotypical biases strongly stand out to people who don't have them, even more so than autistic biases do to people who don't have them. In reality, neurotypicals and autists are about equally biased.

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 No.11122

>>11111

>>11113

If you had ever left your mother's basement you would have discovered that while you autists are busy frogposting on /r9k/, the people intelligent enough to actually achieve something in the real world are all neurotypical. As I said, deal with it.

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 No.11123

>>11122

>really neurotypical

>easily influenced by social woo

>does not like reality

>can not understand anything

>addicted to social status

>claims to be intelligent

topkek

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 No.11124

>>11122

>Implying that I live in a fucking basement

>Using argumentum ad cellarium as if it were a legit argument

Have you forgotten that you are on /ratanon now?

topkek

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 No.11125

>>11122

>Irrational NT claims that everyone who achieves anything in RL is fucking neurotypical

OK. Ever heard of Bill Gates, NT?

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 No.11126

>>11123

>>11124

>>11125

Why did you make three posts?

Are you pretending to be three different people?

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 No.11129

>>11126

Nah.

NTs, you are mistaken if you believe that we autists are useless. Think about the implications of making autistic programmers mad.

Do you want some mad autistic programmer to write and release UFAI because of the abuse he endure under you NTs? Nor do I.

Give us some concessions and we will offer you some concessions. Otherwise you will face a UFAI rampage one day.

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 No.11130

>>11129

So why did you make three posts?

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 No.11131

>>11130

Laziness? Kek.

I would suggest that you read >>11129 more carefully.

We autists work and create. Yet you NTs prefer conformism and social status to our intelligence and creativity. Fine. Please just leave us alone.

We autists will get some AI written when you are drunk, drugged or fucking each other.;-) Do you want a happy autist writing a friendly AI or do you want a bitter autist writing an omnicidal AI?

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 No.11132

>>11131

I'm an autist too, friendo. Why do you keep calling me neurotypical? There are more than two people in this thread.

Programmers are more likely to be autistic. That doesn't mean that all great programmers are autistic.

AGI probably isn't going to be accomplished because of the efforts of a single programmer, and even if it is, there's no reason to assume they'll be autistic.

You're not being very rational at the moment.

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 No.11133

>unironically uses the term 'argumentum ad cellarium'

>thinks Bill Gates is an autist

>actually thinks any autist could stop fapping to anime long enough to program anything

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 No.11134

>>11133

>NT retard believes that no autist can ever write a program or stop using anime

Falsified. I have written programs, am not sexually addicted to anime and am autistic.

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 No.11135

>>11134

"I have written programs" he said, after he finished his python tutorial on 'hello world'.

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 No.11136

>>11135

Fine, retard. I know C, C++ and Java. I even have programs on Github.

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 No.11137

>>11132

Sorry.

Yeah, I need to calm down. That fucking retard (pun intended, he is a retard and he has sex) is a fucking sociopath and sadist. The only way to deal with suck fuckers is to fight back, otherwise we will sound like pushovers.

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 No.11138

>>11137

No, he's trolling. If you hadn't "fought back" it would have stopped right away and looked less embarassing.

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 No.11139

Are you still neurotypical if you have ADHD? What about OCD? Both seem to be overrepresented in programmers.

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 No.11140

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>>11137

>That fucking retard (pun intended, he is a retard and he has sex) is a fucking sociopath and sadist. The only way to deal with suck fuckers is to fight back, otherwise we will sound like pushovers.

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