No.7148 [Last50 Posts]
I feel like we need to be honest about our feelings about sex, so that way we can avoid getting new users that were misinformed about who we are.
my stance on it is that there's no benefit to it and if anything it's negative. It's not necessarily a bad thing but not good either. The only real reason to do it is to create a baby.
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No.7149
the purpose is to have children. it's designed to be pleasurable to encourage having children. the pleasure gets abused by degenerates
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No.7150
>>7148
My stance is that it is actually negative. Nofap makes your life better because of semen retention. Sex isn't semen retention. People should never fuck unless it's time to pop out a kid which you also shouldn't do
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No.7154
>>7150
thanks for the advice shlomo
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No.7155
>>7154
lol the you applies to everybody not you OP
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No.7159
Yeah there's a board for those who plan on avoiding all sexual desires in general: >>/celibacy/
Your sexual drive is powerful for a reason. It's purpose is to create other life. Think about that. Its purpose is to bring another thinking, breathing human into existence. Using contraceptives, having abortions, etc is abusing that power. And this abuse has brought about very devastating results. Children who were born into single-parent households, women who've used themselves up by the time they're 20 years old, men who think of women only as sexual objects, etc. And the perverts! Oh the perversion of society. Sexual liberation has allowed perverts who are attracted to the same sex to run amok in society, these demons molest our children and bring forth diseases old and new.
https://ethikapolitika.org/2014/08/19/civilizations-sex/
86 (now extinct) civilizations failed when sexual morality began to decline. And America is on track to being the 87th (provided that European countries like Sweden and the Netherlands and Germany don't make it there first).
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No.7163
>>7159
I would post on /celibacy/ if such a place exists but the posting volume is probably less than here
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No.7171
It's a beautiful, unifying act between a man and a woman that allows them to grow closer in love and potentially bless them with a child.
The way society treats sex is corruptive and, frankly, disgusting. They've tried their hardest to take a sacred act and reduce it to a bunch of lust addled apes licking and touching each other. It's a special act that should be done only in marriage.
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No.7176
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No.7180
Sex is not just for procreation. It's also for creating societal and civilizational bondings between opposite gender people. Of course it only works if it's monogamous.
Thing is, neither of these 2 is taken seriously in society today. Both ideas are on the fringe.
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No.7203
It's great.
Of course, this board being 50% creationists and another 30% trolls, nobody knows biology.
Let me lecture you kiddos:
FACT
during evolution, 1 in 18 men ever got sex.
That means we evolved so that the best get all or most of girls.
Of course, that sucked for everybody else, which is why we see so many fuck-ups today, it's because betas started passing their worthless genes on.
So, sex is something you should do with as many women as possible - as much as possible. Unless you're unattractive, which is 80% of guys, which is why so many guys advocate for sexual socialism (read: beg for vagina).
If you disagree you should have your testosterone levels checked.
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No.7204
>>7203
>only alphas got pussy and so the beta genes were spread
Are you retarded on purpose?
2/10 made me reply
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No.7205
>>7204
>my reading comprehension is too low to even understand Trump's sentences: the post
Only alphas got pussy, then several (tens of) thousands of years ago some in society decided to enforce monogamy at whatever cost necessary.
This has helped civilization since happy married sexful betas are more productive than frustrated sexless betas, but it's ruined the gene pool.
Not only that, betas (like you) got to be parents as well, so kids got molded on a shitty submissive passive aggressive personality - hence, tumblr.
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No.7206
>>7205
So only 1 in 18 men ever had sex, ensuring only the best genes were spread but suddenly out of fucking nowhere betas arrive. And because those betas are so fucking useless they magically overthrow the alphas and create political systems in their favour, making it impossible for the alphas to do anything against it…
I changed my mind, you are not retarded on purpose, you are just genuinely retarded.
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No.7207
>>7206
>strawmanning still
>ad homs
Molyneux is twisting in his sleep that kikes such as you exist.
Turns out, I was right, you people really have no clue whatsoever about biology - but neither history.
Then again, what was to be expected of creationists and closet christians?
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No.7208
>>7207
>kikes such as you exist.
It's pretty funny because I only summed up what you said. So doesn't this mean you are the kike?
3/10 because I'm still replying to an obvious troll
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No.7209
>>7208
I don't lie, throw smokescreens and make strawmans while advocating ignorance.
So yes, you're the kike, and a really dumb one at that too:
>you're le troll
>le X/10 rate system
>le bait may may
Yet you continue to reply, so you're a wilful idiot I take it :^)
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No.7219
Sex is for married couples who want to procreate only.
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No.7222
>>7203
I know you're trolling, but let me break this down for any idiot who might come across this and take it seriously.
Civilization, and especially western civilization, was made possible by forced monogamy. The breakdown in monogamous social forces is what contributes to the social problems we see today, not the opposite. All you have to do is look at blacks, the least monogamous group in the US, raised largely by single mothers. This is touched on in Culture of Critique, and covered extensively in Devlin's Sexual Utopia in Power. Monogamy is a necessity for white civilization.
>So, sex is something you should do with as many women as possible - as much as possible.
You getting laid in the frat house has nothing to do with reproduction and the transfer of genes. It's basically the same as masturbation, except you're also contributing to the ruin of western women and society by reinforcing quasi-polygamous social patterns.
Socially destructive behaviors don't make you an 'alpha'. They make you a parasite.
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No.7223
>>7209
>>7208
>>7207
>>7206
come on fellas this is no way to have a productive argument
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No.7224
>>7223
I mean, in a way, nobody is really wrong here.
One guy is talking about pre-historic tribal behavior where, yes, only the strongest got to breed. That was in fact the case at one point. This sort of mentality still exists in some parts of Africa and in "culturally diverse" inner cities in the developed world. Those places aren't really doing too well in comparison with the rest of civilization though.
Evolution did train us to try to bang as many people as possible to get the best genes at any cost. Society, at least ideally, should be training us to do the opposite if we want to keep enjoying certain things like the internet, family, democracy and not having HIV.
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No.7225
>>7224
I think all these arguments are against the point of the OP. The OP is asking for people's stances on the 99% of sex that occurs, the sex not intended for procreation. Having kids is an entirely separate argument. I never got a real argument for why sex is good in >>7203
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No.7238
>>7225
It serves a not only reproductive but also pair-bonding purpose in marriage. But yeah, outside of marriage there is no benefit other than "it feels good man", and in fact is a negative when not controlled by social forces, as we see post sexual revolution.
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No.7251
>>7238
>pair bonding
Tbh why should I care about that? I can do everything without a woman (sail my boat, watch movies etc) and I already have many friendships that are extremely close, almost to a gay extent. I can afford to pay people to take care of my house too.
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No.7257
>>7251
Are you done tooting your own horn? If you'll reread, he said "in marriage".
We get it, you're a strong independent man that don't need no woman. You can stop bragging about material things on an anonymous imageboard.
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No.7259
>>7251
>I already have many friendships that are extremely close, almost to a gay extent
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No.7260
>>7257
Im just saying, I can't see the point of having a woman in my life, married or not. I was not bragging. If I was bragging it would be much obnoxious.
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No.7263
It's a disgusting, perverted act that should be limited only to the strictly necessary
Hopefully one day we'll finally switch to artificial insemination so that we can put s*x aside completely
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No.7269
>>7263
Artificial insemination involves fapping tho
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No.7274
>>7260
It was already obnoxious. You (or someone) asked for why sex was good, >>7238 explained, and you started going off about your boat and your close friends.
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No.7278
>>7271
Still though tbh ppl like you think people who are conservative and support trump are a zionist shill, you probably think Steven Crowder is like that even tho he's furthest thing.
Face it, the real reason you want national socialism is because of the socialism, and conservatives are 100% against that system
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No.7279
<posted in wrong thread
fuck
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No.7281
>>7274
>You (or someone)
yo
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No.7290
>>7269
Well, then just shove a syringe into men's balls and extract the semen without s*xual acts involved
I really need to tell you everything, don't i
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No.7291
>>7278
epic. 'conservatives' don't conserve anything. it's light communism. national socialism is the only answer
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No.7293
>>7291
>capitalism and communism are essentially the same
you're really something else
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No.7294
>>7293
different sides of the same jewish coin
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No.7295
>>7260
I was just expanding my question. He said that it's for pair bonding, so I took it a step further and asked why I should even care about having a wife, as for the time being I can do whatever I want without one. That question still has yet to be answered. I was talking about my boat to make my argument easier to understand.
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No.7297
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No.7358
>>7171
THIS
I would add that we are all addicted to pleasure, however if you're here you're on the right track. After a few weeks of nofap everyone starts to look like a pleasure- addicted ape with no self control.
Mastering the temptation to fuck when starting a relationship leads to incredible pair bonding and love. It's a real subconscious and conscious message that you're together for deeper reasons than pleasure. You both respond by being more intimate, loving and affectionate and it feels amazing.
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No.7360
>>7295
If you don't know what unconditional love feels like we can't explain it to you. It's good for your soul.
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No.7363
>>7360
Dont really understand the argument that someone with a pussy is able to love me more than someone that doesn't. Again I'm not talking sex and I don't consider sex to be love.
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No.7364
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No.7366
>>7360
Mothers give their children unconditional love. If you think the love women give their relationship partners is unconditional you're likely a younger person without much experience
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No.7367
>>7222
> It's basically the same as masturbation
Well society should be so that 1 guy can earn as much as 5, so he can then marry 5 girls, which he deserves (not like betas or omegas would have gotten those girls anyway).
>Civilization, and especially western civilization, was made possible by forced monogamy.
Not "made possible" but "the particular way it evolved was facilitated by enforced monogamy".
>The breakdown in monogamous social forces is what contributes to the social problems we see today
Yes, what contributes, not what causes; what causes those problems are the jews.
Get rid of those and of foreigners (muslims, rapefugees, niggers, africans, half-niggers, half-jews and so on) and the problems fix themselves.
The thing is that forcing a girl to marry a guy who would otherwise not been able to procreate due to inferior genes or just after-birth acquired psycho-social defects is detrimental to civilization.
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No.7369
>>7297
Money comes from the Federal Bank, which creates it out of nowhere, at will, in whatever quantity they desire, then they LEND it to other banks who lend it to people.
No, money doesn't come from socially-conscious rich people who lend and borrow to/from banks and to entrepreneurs out of the good will of their heart for a 3% return after 5 years with a 50% chance of failure.
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No.7383
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No.7384
>>7369
If you have billions and billions of dollars the only thing you can really do other than create another business is put it in the bank. It would be extremely illiquid in any other form of investment such as the stock market
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No.7386
>>7369
Also, investing can be scary as fuq and most people are satisfied with the 500 million they made from their tech startup
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No.7801
>>7148
>there's no benefit to it and if anything it's negative. It's not necessarily a bad thing but not good either. The only real reason to do it is to create a baby.
True, but if you're in a relationship you need to fuck her occassionaly to not get cucked, that's the sad reality
That said relationships that will not end up in a family or babies are useless from the start, if you're in it for the pussy then you're as degenerate as fappers. Also don't worry about dumping girlfriends, even if she was very hard to get. Oh, and there was a thread recently about a guy wanting to go to a prostitute, it should be obvious to everyone whether this is a good idea or not.
Before starting a relationship of any kind you need to get a long streak going (the 90 day challenge or whatever's your number) to cure your fap addiction AND of course don't fucking develop a sex addiction in its place afterwards.
>>7293
Both jewish inventions to keep us enslaved
Centralised economy with the government printing its own money that is preferably tied to nautral resources (Hitler, Gadaffi) are the only way to set us free (without the worst of ancap memes coming to reality)
>>7386
No billionaire keeps their money in paper, they buy resources/houses/cars/businesses e.t.c. because paper money could become literal paper in any second, that's how the rich endure the financial crisis btw
>>7297
>>7369
>>7384
The financial system is ridiculously complex and when discussing economy it's much easier to just break things up without taking money into equasion, for example to answer the question if rich people create jobs
What do you do for living and does it aid rich people or common people? (As in directly, when you harvest fruits you're aiding the common man 99,999% But when you do bureauctratic nonsense or produce luxury accessories you're aiding the rich)
This is not rocket science, if you're a construction worker then the houses built for the people are the result of rich people creating jobs, if you're building a luxury mansion then it's rich people jewing people (this way it's easier to see the involvement of the rich, both contruction workers get the wage, but when you remove the money from the equasion you see who the end result of your work will benefit)
Overall there's too much luxury crap being made and products simply going to waste, the same way effort goes to waste at useless jobs that are there because of our system (advertising, money laundering, education brainwashing, propaganda, wars for Israel e.t.c. All useless jobs that only exist to keep the system going)
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No.7815
>>7801
>no billionaire keeps their money in paper
Do you know any billionaires personally?
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No.7817
>>7801
Also all markets crashed during the 2008 financial crisis including the housing market so I don't get your logic that it protects them against a financial collapse.
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No.7892
>>7148
The only real reason is to make a baby. Doing it with your wife occasionaly and in a modest way is okay too.
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No.7931
>>7801
So, uh, did you make all of these conclusions yourself through experimentation and analysis or are you just going off of what some (jewish) anon said?
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No.7937
I think people should be free to be as sexually degenerate as possible, but you should require a license to have and raise children. Such a system would be a nightmare to enforce though.
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No.7945
>>7150
This. The material plane is nothing but a prison
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No.8040
it's good, but excessive fapping and porn may result in loss of the meaning of the orgasm and sex to your brain, making sex become meaningless and unfun.
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No.8146
>>7222
if monogamy is a necessity for white civ. then the white civilization truly is doomed
also, humans are poly by nature , society prevents this by ramming the thoughts into our heads when we are still young and believe everything we are told. Also, religion forces monogamy (meaning christian religion) by its own ancient societal codes.
The fact that westerners tend to have less so-called tribal behavior (communal living for ex.) doesn't prove that we have the internet and not-aids as a causal continuation of being monogamous.
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No.8151
>>8146
don't you get it?
Marriage is pushed because it curbs sex addiction. Obviously if a man only gets to fuck one woman he'll get bored and won't be very prone to addiction.
It's weird to say that people should limit how much they have sex, but it's not considered weird to say that people should wait until marriage for sex.
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No.8152
>>8151
Specially Blacks since they are super predators and an invasive species.
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No.8153
>>8146
>humans are poly by nature
This is what tumblr likes to believe but it's not accurate. We're hard-wired for serial monogamy when it comes to relationships. We fall in love with someone, make a baby with them, stay together until the baby can walk on its own, then we split up and find someone else. That's why the chemical high that some people call "love" only lasts for a few years maximum.
Lifelong monogamy is an artificial construct invented by higher IQ peoples who recognized that children would benefit from having two parents their whole lives. Society would also benefit as children would have more guidance and become more productive when they grow older.
Hook-up culture and "poly-amorous" relationships are also an artificial construct invented by (((higher IQ peoples))) to destabilize a civilization that they want to control. Children are typically viewed as a form of STD and no one breeds.
>doesn't prove that we have the internet and not-aids as a causal continuation of being monogamous
Does (non-white) Africa have internet and not-aids? no? Gee, what a coincidence.
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No.12263
>>7148
i know sex is not just fapping with a vagina instead of a hand….
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No.12287
>>7149
>>7150
First and second post best post. Semen contains the seed, which is created by nature to give life by fusing with an egg. Any other use of it is against nature. Animals know this rule instinctively mostly, in nature they will only ever fuck for reproduction and never else. Its only man who goes full degenerate.
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No.12332
I love having sex and want to have it as much as my wife is willing to give me.
Beyond that I won't.
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