No.10619 [Last50 Posts]
The ultimate redpill is is that recreational sex itself leads to decadence of society. The more it is practiced, the faster it will fall. The ultimate path to recovery of almost all plagues of society is to keep the mind completely away from the idea of sex itself. Is it a wonder almost every time tested religion requires chastity.
The Brahmacharis (Vedic hindus who invented yoga) and the Buddhist Monks including Guatama Buddha himself made this crystal clear too. The Bible also almost says this. A few philosophers of orthodox Christianity (such as Clement of Alexandria, pic related) have said the same thing.
Modern science proclaiming "Have more sex, masturbate more, watch more porn goy, or you'll get cancer!" is all bullshit. All of it. It reeks of jew engineered studies to keep the goyim confused and weak and rob them of their masculinity to keep them from rebelling. These are the same people pushing "gender fluidity" and transexuality on children. It makes so much sense that they get their own dicks cut, which lessens the sensations of orgasms so they won't be as attracted to sex thus spending more time conquering the goyim.
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No.10620
The ultimate redpill is that sex itself is degenerate and we should propagate the species through artificial insemination
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No.10625
>>10619
>modern science
Most modern "science" regarding masturbation and sexuality is based on the research of Alfred Kinsey, a sexual degenerate who took pictures of himself inserting an entire toothbrush into his urethra for the purposes of "research". These pictures still exist to this day at the Kinsey institute. His research overall was skewed as he based his understanding of sexual norms primarily through interviews of prison inmates and prostitutes. People defend his research purely because he told them what they want to hear. Everybody is a polyamorous bisexual guys LMAO, like read Kinsey man, it's totes normal, like it's science man.
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No.10626
>>10619
So what if you are married and have recreational sex with your wife?
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No.10628
>>10626
I would recommend against it. It will lead to more degeneracy between you two (trying out more "kinky" shit and fantasies which both of you will eventually come to repent). Think of each other as life partners for something greater much greater and purposeful than sex.
Semen is manufactured by the body with a lot of care for one reason and one reason only - fertilize the egg. Any other use of it is perversion. Period. Its what all the good religious books and some very smart philosophers have been saying for a long time. We are no different than animals and animals only fuck to reproduce or stay celibates for life. Gandhi, Newton, Kant, Kellogg, Pythagoras, Plato attested to the same fact that life is best lived celibate. Read Plato's opinion on sexuality - it demystifies the satanic kike lie that recreational sex is a homo sapien right.
If stoicism leads to building of nations then sexual liberation leads to its downfall. Its the same thing at the individual level.
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No.10629
>>10625
Kinsey and Freud. Both of them have done a lot of damage to the west and world as a whole. Freud was just as bad a degenerate. (everyone should have sex with their parents!) and his work fueled the pro masturbation agenda in much of the west. Though at the end of his life Freud realized how much of a hack he was and took a vow of celibacy until death.
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No.10632
>>10626
Why would you want to though? sex is awful
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No.10633
yeah, pretty much everyone has drank the kool aid. in the mormon church, which I grew up in, it has what most people would call a very conservative stance on sex (no sex until marriage) but within the context of marriage, things like anal sex and penis sucking is okay.
what about the argument that sex brings people closer?
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No.10635
>>10633
Well, from a striclty biological perspective, sex serves two purposes: pair bonding and procreation
Having sex with random strangers is not pair bonding. It actually fucks up your ability to respond properly to oxytocin, the chemical compound that forms irrational, overpowering bonds between people, like parents to their children. This is why you can't turn a ho into a housewife. They will be a shitty partner and a shitty parent.
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No.10636
>>10633
>sex brings people closer?
it only brings them closer to their degradation
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No.10641
>>10633
Regarding the Church or Catholicism in general, Anthony Ozimic leads an anti-abortion group based in UK and I think gave the best summation on subject of masturbation when delivering a scathing critique of the guy who invented in vitro fertilization.
"This fact highlights the little-publicised truth that the sperm used to fertilise the eggs in IVF is almost always obtained by masturbation, assisted by the provision of pornography. Masturbation instrumentalises and thus debases the sexual faculty, which is proper to marital union, not laboratory experiments. The sexual organs are structured for depositing sperm into the vagina, not into a jar. A masturbator - even one motivated by a desire to fertilise eggs, even his wife's - is 'making love' to his hand, which is unnatural and a form of self-abuse.
Masturbation for any purpose - including providing sperm samples for medical purposes - is intrinsically unethical. Catholics in particular should note that it is forbideen by a decision of the Holy Office on 2 Aug. 1929, and by Pope Pius XII (address to delegates, 26th Congress of Urology, 8 Oct. 1953; address to 2nd World Congress on Fertility and Sterility, 19 May 1956.)
Edwards' activity highlights the violation of marital sexuality which is part of IVF. Not only was he masturbating for the sake of IVF, he was trying to conceive children both outside of wedlock and via women (using their ovarian tissue) other than his wife (Edwards was married)."
http://spuc-director.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-telegraphs-adulation-of-ivf-pioneer.html
Everything he says makes absolute sense.
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No.10643
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No.10657
>>10628
You are fucking nuts. Sex when practiced right(tantra and love tao) energizes the whole body and strengthens the marriage.
A sexless marriage quickly falls apart.
Human beings become sick from lack of touch. It is a bioelectric exchange, which is why sex makes you feel satisfied while masturbation doesn't. When you masturbate, you don't receive a bioelectrical charge. That's like taking a male-female cable and plugging one end into the other to make it circular. No new energy received. The mucous membrane in the vagina transmits bioelectricity which the penis absorbs. It energizes the man. If he is healthy, occasional ejaculation will not deplete him, but energize him.
I sure wonder who would preach celibacy. Probably the same kind of person who would advocate for mass immigration, right?
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No.10660
>>10657
You fucking dickhead, why do you think women's beauty and your sex drive towards her peaks around the time she his most fertile? the purpose of sex is none of that hedonistic shit, the only purpose of sex is to make babies, propagate the species, that's it
That's why i was talking about artificial insemination, now that we've found ways to achieve that same result without sexual acts we should get ready as individuals and as a society to eliminate sex from our lives so that we finally won't have to fear the slippery slope anymore, but instead we're going the opposite direction thanks to faggots like you
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No.10674
>>10657
>You are fucking nuts. Sex when practiced right(tantra and love tao) energizes the whole body and strengthens the marriage.
No it makes you a weak, brainless faggot and more degenerate. This "tantra" sex just another fetishized sex which will eventually lead to degenerate fantasies. All sex leads down this path.
>A sexless marriage quickly falls apart.
Its the opposite. Couples who learn to define their marriage as something more than lust actually end up living the rest of their lives together. Lust/passion will eventually vanish with a snap of a finger after marriage, or just when you bang each other enough times. Then what?
Also, science before jews gained world power was unanimous in the opinion that loss of semen equals faster aging and death. The last time a prominent figure in the West even talked about transmuting this sexual energy to work was Napolean Hill - whose book is still regarded as the best self-help book of all times.
>Probably the same kind of person who would advocate for mass immigration, right?
I'm full 1488 kiddo. Hitler wanted a chaste society. He would gas you for spreading this tantra degeneracy.
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No.10720
>>10660
>eliminate sex from our lives
You sound like the villain in a cyberpunk novel.
>>10674
What you're arguing in favour of is married men and women ignoring their bodies and their spouses' bodies. If sexual pleasure and attraction are good because they allow people to form deep, emotional bonds (husband-wife and parent-child, for instance) how is it they are bad even when practiced in moderation? This isn't even a case of too much of a good thing being bad for you; what you're describing is a case of any amount more than the absolute bare minimum being bad, which is insane.
>Couples who learn to define their marriage as something more than lust actually end up living the rest of their lives together
Prove it. While you're at it, stop lying about what your opponents say and stop putting words in their mouths.
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No.10727
God did not make you to write such evil posts.
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No.10728
>>10720
>You sound like the villain in a cyberpunk novel.
He is right though. Eliminating sex as a means of recreational activity does not equal eliminating it all together. Sex is required for procreation - and that's where its optimal use is and that's where it should stop. Just like most other animals.
>What you're arguing in favour of is married men and women ignoring their bodies and their spouses' bodies.
Not bodies - but urges that lead to destruction. Sex is all in the mind. The more you have sex or fap the more of it you'll begin to crave. Like fast food or drugs. It needs to be treated like a destructive activity. Like eating sugar.
The Bible got it absolutely right with lust being part of the 7 sins. Book of Romans talk in detail on how to escape the urges. In Greek philosophy, Sophocles prided himself on avoiding sex as "escaping a raging and savage beast of a master". In Hindu epic Maharabharta, Hanuman is physically strongest warrior on the side of the good, and he took a vow of celibacy at a young age. Hanuman is still an active God in India today.
>If sexual pleasure and attraction are good because they allow people to form deep, emotional bonds (husband-wife and parent-child, for instance) how is it they are bad even when practiced in moderation?
There is a difference between love and lust you dumbfuck. Two people can only fuck each other enough times before they get bored and start forming sexual attractions to either more depraved fantasies to get that same high they once used to get from orgasms with each other, or they look for new partners which means adultery and eventually divorce.
>Emotional bonds
Emotional bonds don't depend on sex. Holy shit. Ask the tinder generation how much "emotional bonds" they form with their hookups. Real love between a couple exists separate from sexual lust.
Imagine this - A women living in a Muslim country, say, the UK, has acid thrown in her face. She becomes completely deformed and horrible to look at. Now if she has a husband who loves her for who she is, separate from sexual attraction, he will still be married to her no matter what. She could not put out for the rest of her life, or worse lose her limbs in another accident and he'll walk her in a wheelchair but he will still love her. The person who married her for sex will obviously find another women.
>when practiced in moderation?
Pythagoras preached celibacy as the best mode of life (again - outside of procreation itself). They knew normies would not be able to handle it due to their weak will power so on many cases they said sex in moderation is okay. Pythagoras even discussed advocating having sex to be a seasonal thing.
>Prove it.
The more conservative a country is, the lesser the divorce rates. The more sexually liberated it is, the higher the divorce rates. Compare the rates in jew'd out Western countries vs Asian subcontinent or Middle-East.
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No.10734
>>10720
>You sound like the villain in a cyberpunk novel.
Yeah fine, call me when you will grow up from your childish worldview
>>10728
>A women living in a Muslim country, say, the UK, has acid thrown in her face
The funny part is that you don't even need such a peculiar example, just take a normal relationship between a man and his wife
The sexual drive between the two is naturally going to collapse, her beauty is inevitably going to wither away and those soft round breasts that used to grab his attention and dominate his thoughts are going to become scrawny prunes, all in just a matter of a few fucking years
And guess when that starts to happen? right when the woman's fertility starts to drop
Gee, what a coincidence! it's almost like nature itself is screaming at us that the important thing here is only procreation, and all this romanticized vision of sex this faggot has is nothing but pure BULLSHIT
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No.10738
>>10629
Freud gained the wisdom of nofap by his 40s. However he had already published a lot of damaging and questionable work by then.
“Freud held the opinion (based on personal experience and observation) that sexual activity was incompatible with the accomplishing of any great work. Since he felt that the great work of creating and establishing psychotherapy was his destiny, he told his wife that they could no longer engage in sexual relations. Indeed from about the age of forty until his death Freud was absolutely celibate "in order to sublimate the libido for creative purposes," according to his biographer Ernest Jones.”
Source: http://www.wien-vienna.com/freud.php
Another fun fact:
John Harvey Kellogg was among the most influential physicians of the 19th century who believed sex (and thus masturbation) caused mental illnesses. He lived a celibate life even though he was married, he fathered no children and slept in a bedroom separate from his wife. Though he ended up adopting 42 kids. He also invented Kellogg's cereal as a breakfast solution which was clean and didn't trigger sexuality which he attributed to diets of meat and spices. It was his brother, William Kellogg who then added sugar and marketed it consumers. John hated this. Kellogg's company shows Will's name and not the original inventor as the founder of the Kellogg's company.
http://biography.yourdictionary.com/john-harvey-kellogg
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No.10741
>>10728
>Emotional bonds don't depend on sex. Holy shit. Ask the tinder generation how much "emotional bonds" they form with their hookups. Real love between a couple exists separate from sexual lust.
Imagine this - A women living in a Muslim country, say, the UK, has acid thrown in her face. She becomes completely deformed and horrible to look at. Now if she has a husband who loves her for who she is, separate from sexual attraction, he will still be married to her no matter what. She could not put out for the rest of her life, or worse lose her limbs in another accident and he'll walk her in a wheelchair but he will still love her. The person who married her for sex will obviously find another women.
Sorry, anon, but you are ignorant on the nature of women. The above scenario would absolutely play out, again and again, but ONLY from the male side. If you switched the roles and, let's say, a man loses his ability to provide. How many women will realistically stick it out with him for the rest of his life. You're deluded if you think it's above a statistically insignificant number. Women don't love men the way men love women. A woman will never be loyal and dedicate herself to you after you have lost your utility if she has other options.
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No.10745
>>10743
What you are saying has nothing to do with the nature of a woman. In fact, historically, all societies evolved to keep a woman's hypergamy in check through social ostracism. Fear of becoming a pariah from society is stronger than the urge to act on hypergamy. Take any relatively attractive late 20s woman raised form birth in a conservative culture and bring her to LA, NYC, or some other leftist shithole. She will be riding the cock carousel within a year and all your lofty trappings of loyalty and honor will wisp away like the projected image it was.
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No.10747
>>10741
I can tell you have a limited worldview restricted by mostly western cultural think. Maybe what you're saying is true. But its not a biological gender thing - its a cultural thing. Country I grew up in is still considered a major developing country, very conservative, and a divorce just because your husband became handicap is mostly unheard of. There's thing thing called love and women sincerely believe in it, casual sex is still looked down upon and teenage girls dream of being married to a nice guy and not slutting it up in clubs. Women in my culture, when they love a man and are married to him, are encouraged to take it as a vow to remain loyal to him no matter what. They take to heart the wedding rituals. Women in the west maybe don't think like that anymore. I blame this entirely on the West rejecting spirituality and religion in favor or completely atheistic and materialistic world - obviously the people in this world will just chase one high after the other - Godly vows be damned.
Masturbation addiction is a cultural problem too. The more liberal countries and cities worldwide openly encourage this degenerate behavior in kids whereas there are some some rural parts of the world still free from this (((modern))) cancerous ideology. They are probably the most happiest societies right now. The people are stronger too.
>>10745
>Take any relatively attractive late 20s woman raised form birth in a conservative culture and bring her to LA, NYC, or some other leftist shithole. She will be riding the cock carousel within a year and all your lofty trappings of loyalty and honor will wisp away like the projected image it was.
First - I had deleted my post due to some glaring typos, but you responded to it fast. To other readers - 10745 was a response to the beginning of this post.
Second, this is complete bullshit. Women aren't born biologically wired to be sluts, even though that's all you're seeing in the West, so I imagine why you think that way. They deal with the same weaknesses men do when in the struggle for chastity. Since this is all anecdotal evidence, let me give you mine. A relative of mine immigrated to US in her 20s for college, and she had every opportunity to slut it up but stuck to her upbringing. In fact, she was living with her friends but moved back in with her parents to not be distracted by the slut culture and lived with them until she got married and has kids now as well as a doctorate.
You need to get out of the country and go live for a few years in subcontinental Asia or Mid-East. Your view of the biological tendencies of the female gender is is based on conjecture. They can be about as slutty as your average Chad or about as chaste as Virgin Mary. Environment has a lot to do with it.
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No.10748
>>10747
>this is complete bullshit. Women aren't born biologically wired to be sluts, even though that's all you're seeing in the West, so I imagine why you think that way.
You keep appealing to strict patriarchal societies which suppress this aspect of female nature at a cultural level by design. Women are not wired to be sluts but they are wired for hypergamy. The hypergamy trait is female nature just as the dominance trait is male nature.
>A relative of mine immigrated to US in her 20s for college, and she had every opportunity to slut it up but stuck to her upbringing. In fact, she was living with her friends but moved back in with her parents to not be distracted by the slut culture and lived with them until she got married and has kids now as well as a doctorate.
You are so bluepilled it hurts, my dude. I know it's a relative so no disrespect but did you personally inspect her hymen? A woman's greatest asset is her image and she will guard it at all costs. This means doing everything she can to maintain the facade of purity lest she face shaming or lose status in the eyes of her peers. This goes doubly so for a woman who is still scared she can face judgement "back home" while she's living abroad only temporarily. She knows if she overtly sluts it up she will lose face at best and possibly far worse fall out (up to and including maiming and honor killings if she comes from a backwater muslim country).
Her being married now means jack shit, you can't prove she didn't slut it up. Likewise her having a phd means jack shit as well. I never said women are inherently stupid, I said they are inherently unfaithful and need external systems to keep them in check in general. Just as we overcome our natural urges to fap a woman can take agency and overcome her own natural urge to seek out maximum utility in the form of a man as well. They are still urges meaning they are hardwired.
I suggest you do a bit more research into evolutionary biology before you steadfastedly jump back to anecdotes about how societies with traditional gender roles that don't take shit from their women somehow invalide the expressed behaviors that win out over the coarse of human history.
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No.10799
>>10625
> inserting an entire toothbrush into his urethra for the purposes of "research".
Bristles too?
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No.10847
>>10748
>You keep appealing to strict patriarchal societies which suppress this aspect of female nature at a cultural level by design. Women are not wired to be sluts but they are wired for hypergamy. The hypergamy trait is female nature just as the dominance trait is male nature.
Where did I say women aren't wired for hypergamy? So you're the one walking back your words on "all women are just sloots lel"
>>10748
>I said they are inherently unfaithful and need external systems to keep them in check in general.
They are no more prone to promiscuity then man. Its not a gender exclusive thing. Both struggle equally with their animalistic instincts and the more well learned/advanced societies will always seek to rise above these instincts. Rest of your post is garbage.
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No.10860
>>10657
>>10674
You and your wife can have sex with out ejaculating. Which is not degenerate, in fact it is the highest physical manifestation of love.
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No.10946
I like how people jump on the "sex makes two people closer" bandwagon without realizing how much it pulls them apart after the first few times.
Sex is important for a man and a woman to stay together because men aren't supposed to be fucking only one woman, but it should be done sparingly, like not more than once a week, or else, the man will quickly become tired of the woman. This is basic science, brosefs.
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No.10947
Semen has been shown to be an antidepressant when absorbed through the vagina. I know for a fact that the anal walls also absorb things, probably semen as well. It is possible to Nofap and absorb semen at the same time so long as the giver is willing to practice tantric sex that doesn't stimulate the prostate.
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No.10960
>>10860
It seems torturous to make love and not finish. I think the body will eject the built up semen in sleep. Steve Jobs believed in this though. I still think its very degenerate.
>>10946
The lesser the better. A man isn't "supposed" to be a sex freak. A man should be able to shun base or sexual desires with ease. He then channels all that energy towards productivity in whatever field he is passionate about, whether art, science or boxing. Many great men in history did just that.
>>10947
What a fucking degenerate. Its true though that semen has qualities when absorbed by vagina. Same shit happens when its not used in males and then broken down and absorbed back into the bloodstream - It helps in keeping the mind and body strong. Vedic Hindu literature talked about this plenty.
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No.10964
>>10960
>What a fucking degenerate
A lot of occult fags contracted syphilis from this sort of practice and I assume people like Issac Newton took mercury in a last ditch effort to cure the mind rotting disease, which made him go mad anyway.
A doner of this nature needs to be vetted to make sure he is free of any diseases; particularly sexually transmitted ones.
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No.10968
>>10860
>>10960
Non-ejaculatory sex does not mean sex without orgasm. For example, in Taoist practices such as dual cultivation, in which both husband and wife use sex to build up chi ("vital energy"), the male does not ejaculate but experiences orgasm. To keep the semen inside the male exerts control over his muscles by clenching the perineum, among other muscles. Supposedly the the "energy", instead of being used during ejaculation, is sent up the spine to the brain to be converted into a higher form.
I don't understand all the intricacies of the practice very well, but from what I have seen lots of cultures have similar beliefs and practices regarded non-ejaculatory sex. I haven't practiced dual cultivation, but it seems that there are some common points and implications, assuming the entire thing is true. These included the belief that semen does not have to be ejaculated in sex, that semen should only be ejaculated sparingly, preferably to actually have a child, and that in humans sex is not limited solely to reproduction.
So, in reply to the OP, I believe like any sane person that sex outside of marriage is wrong. I also believe that ejaculatory sex in marriage, while not sinful, is inferior in regards to the alternative, which is non-ejaculatory sex that involves orgasm. Also, by "recreational sex" do you mean outside of marriage, or in marriage? I assume that recreational sex is sex without the intent of fertilization, but is that considered "degenerate?" I believe that "recreational sex" in marriage is not sinful (or degenerate) and that it is an essential part of marriage. If anything the modern science people are trying to remove sex in marriage in addition to porn, masturbation etc.
However, non-ejaculatory sex including orgasm isn't a very popular concept in the west. Lots of people probably consider it another new age bite of bs just made to sell books. I don't see how it conflicts with Christianity (sex is encouraged is marriage, is not visibly in conflict with all the issues of Onanism in that the seed is kept until fertilization, proper marital sex, no wasting of seed), or even the common ethics of the typical /pol/ user. Thoughts?
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No.10970
>>10968
i read that when u dont ejaculate, you actually do but semen goes into the bladder. Have you done it? have you seen any change in urine after that?
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No.11123
>>10738
>He lived a celibate life even though he was married, he fathered no children and slept in a bedroom separate from his wife. Though he ended up adopting 42 kids
Top cuckold, should've adopted 4000000 children from Africa to show his virtue.
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No.11236
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No.11240
>>10738
>a jew and a cryptojew
Worst thread of this board. When you fap, you look ridiculous, when you have sex you look glorious
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No.11352
>>10620
>"it is not when truth is dirty, but when it is shallow, that the lover of knowledge is reluctant to step into its water"
- nietzsche in thus spoke zarathustra, 'on chastity'
having sex with your wife for the purpose of procreation is not shallow, or at least it doesnt have to be. "artificial insemination" is ungodly
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No.11357
Only good post in this thread >>10727
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No.11362
>>10633
you dont need to be "brought close" by sex unless it's with your wife and you intend to make a baby in the process. what else would that bond be necessary for? and if you had premarital sex then the bonding effect would be weaker when you do it with your wife when you actually need it
>>10657
>tantra and love tao
plebs who dont even do daily meditation use this as an excuse for degeneracy
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No.11368
>>11352
Sex's only natural purpose is procreation. The thing is its easy for man to be addicted to and misuse it which leads to more depravity. If a man can have that self control over him, more power to him. Gandhi struggled with this thought a lot, he hated his father for getting him married at such a young age, he wanted to live a celibate life but having a women next to him often made him weak.
Here's the point though - God (Universe or whatever you believe is the source) made sex for procreation, but sex is also a pit of depravity and enslavement if misused. What if we skip the sex bit altogether? Just have couples extract the sperm and egg (without masturbation) and fuse that into a baby. That way a man doesn't taste depravity and steers clear from it for the rest of his life.
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No.11369
>>11368
To have children in such an unnatural way is also depravity
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No.11370
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No.11385
Is it that no sex in life helps you cope better with everything that is bad? Or is it that no sex leads to more things that are good? Is this thread another see things in a different view sort of idea or are we talking about no cum = i could possibly become a doctor
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No.11388
>>11385
Preservation of semen is the name of the game if you ask the ancients.
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No.11449
>>10747
>You need to get out of the country and go live for a few years in subcontinental Asia or Mid-East.
>Pretending that the Middle East isn't filled with STDs and boyfucking. And that Pajeet women aren't sluts when not kept in check
>Having any children interracially
Found cuck.
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No.11452
>>11449
I can nitpick too. Its not Asia or Mid-East where faggots can get married now is it? lol get rekt faggot.
>>Pretending that the Middle East isn't filled with STDs and boyfucking. And that Pajeet women aren't sluts when not kept in check
Pajeet women and men for that matter who grow up with good and deep rooted conservative/religious upbringing are far more principled than western sluts. Hard concept to swallow but there are societies where women would rather kill themselves than act promiscuous. Its sad the west is so degenerate that you think such societies cannot even exist.
It'll get better. Either at the hands of muzzies who invade white countries and overthrow the kikes and their white marxist pets or perhaps whites may just wake up (low probability but can happen).
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No.11455
>>11452
>I can nitpick too. Its not Asia or Mid-East where faggots can get married now is it? lol get rekt faggot.
>Caring about gay marriage
Loads of fags don't care about getting married and at best are just out to trigger White Men. Cuckservatives like you fixate on First World Problems like that instead of dealing with little things like race and granting women the ordered brutality needed.
>Pajeet women and men for that matter who grow up with good and deep rooted conservative/religious upbringing are far more principled than western sluts.
>Your country is so garbage (and filled with designated shitting streets) you have to migrate to the West to not be trash
>Hard concept to swallow but there are societies where women would rather kill themselves than act promiscuous.
Women care more losing status/face in the eyes of their peers when it comes to sexuality than men. This is from both an implied threat of violence and a lower shot at roping a desired male. Take those away and women will act the sluts they evolved to be. This is the case across all races. Just look at all the STDs in Shitskin countries.
>Its sad the west is so degenerate that you think such societies cannot even exist.
Go look up where HIV and other STDs are at at an all time high. It's where Shitskins like you live.
>It'll get better. Either at the hands of muzzies who invade white countries and overthrow the kikes and their white marxist pets or perhaps whites may just wake up (low probability but can happen).
lol, Arabs and Jews are both Semitic trash. Muslims have repeatedly used the help of Jews against Whites and vice-versa. Even today there are Jews pushing for Islamic immigration. And Muslims suck at advanced warfare (see their laughable record against the mongrels in Israel) and have to depend on swarming in with help from enablers (must be the inbreeding). Keep up the shitskin revenge fantasy though, Muds like you can be roped into progressive civilization easy enough (see all the Shitskins in the Democrat party and Women's March), if only from giving you all the welfare you can eat (see all the Niggers and Muslims usings gibsmedats in America and United Kingdom).
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No.11456
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No.11457
>>11455
>muh std stats the post
Jesus Christ you're a desperate cuck. Obviously countries with lower quality care than the west will more case of aids. Fact still remains its your white (56% white, top kek) countries which are literally legalizing degeneracy.
>muh we need to go back to beating women
We need to go back to beating ANYONE who partakes in promiscuity. Period. If you think females are any more or less prone to being degenerates than males then your head is so far up your own ass I don't think you're worth helping.
>>11456
Samefag, but I'll reply to your garbage nonetheless.
I know ISIS is a Mossad op, but their culture is Middle Eastern. Something you seem to admire in your hardon for beating women so idk where the hostility towards ME is coming from? Did a muzzie fuck your gf or something.
>muh porn stats
Yeah like watching cuckold porn is so much better than pig fucker porn right, kek
At least porn is banned in most Islamic countries and many other non Islamic countries in Asia. A jew wouldn't dare go to an Islamic country and produce porn like they do in Kikewood. Heck, a jew wouldn't dare step in an islamic country regardless. And you are here raging about shitskins when kikes rape your culture so hard its producing child transgenders and white guilt enough enough to kill your white race out of existence. Top fucking kek, kill yourself.
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No.11458
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No.11481
Directly from the Halakhah (Jewish code of laws derived from the Torah). It reads the exact same as Hindu and Buddhist texts regarding sexuality - strictly forbids it outside the confines of procreation within marriage.
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No.12450
>>11455
>Go look up where HIV and other STDs are at at an all time high. It's where Shitskins like you live.
Piece of shit retard. Most STDs are not from "Shitskins", dumb fuck, they are from sub-saharian africans. Muslims have the lowest STD rates because they are not sexual degenerates, unlike you. Pic related.
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No.12451
>>11458
>Muh muds are so degenerate !
Faggot european.
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No.12452
You are right , recreational sex is bad, that's why every one should be a Christian and only have sex when married.
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No.12462
>>10968
This is very much what I have been realizing too.
Logically we can go from the fact that wasting your energy through 'leakage' is 'sinful', or not in the best interests of life. All spiritual practices work with the thing called bio-electricial-energy, or just Chi, as the chinks call it. How you vibrate, your frequency and your charge is all in all just energy.
The collective consciousness in your body is very much what others call our "spirit" or the, infact, real interconnectedness living beings are driven from. The materialization, ie. grown cells are driven from the drive of this "spirit". Every spiritual practice in a short time after 'drainage' of 'sacrificial liquid' is inferior to one who is full of energy and can focus on other aspects of the spiritual beings doings, such as enlightenment or just plain physical labor. The saying 'to feel drained' must be coming from this aspect.
The thing is, that the human soul is 'split' or "has chosen' physical aspects of it self. And beings who are more or less enlightened are capable of higher expressions of this lifeform thorugh different practices. Sex is one of them.
It is giving to give. And imagine being plugged right into another being who also gives really gives a lot of caring energy to both through the most direct line - the sexual. It is a very sacred practice, if not the most holy of all - the reunification of both aspects of the dualistic entity called man for the greater good and higher expression of itself.
All beings are sacred, or holy. Children always have been more aligned with their nature, or given drives dictated by the higher benevolent power - God, the Tao, or whatever you wish to call the source of all things. This is because they haven been defiled or engineered to act in certain ways – directed by the Ego mind we all share on a individual but also collective way.
It's all or noone. We all have to evolve out of it together or this planet is set back to a primal stage again. Some spiritual beings stand by to help out though.
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No.12474
Sex is very important for pair-bonding. Not enough sex destroys relationships. See r/deadbedrooms
Most women in movies, who are dissatisfied with their partner are portrayed as him not fucking her enough or ignoring her and not giving her enough love.
I also read many anecdotes of girls becoming clingy after you fucked them/ came inside them. I also read some articles that sperm gets absorbed by women and make them happier, more content, etc.
Also fuck off with your insane puritan Christcuckery. The sex drive of men is not evil. You sound like a TERF, who talks about how every instance of heterosexual sex is rape and therefore evil and how everything masculine is toxic.
We already tried your way and it ended up in many bright people wasting away in monestaries and not procreating. That kind of stuff is on a similar level as some very weird roman pagan cults, where men publically castrated themselves to join that fucked up goddess cult and other such degeneracies.
This mystery cult Gnostic bullshit about how everything physical and real is sin and how everything spiritual is good is an absolute cancer. These people probably think that doing mind exercises and meditation is better than building a rocket to reach Mars.
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No.12498
>>12474
>See these porn addicted reddit normies for muh proof
>Unironically using jewish movie propaganda as a reference for normal behaviour
Kill yourself, for real.
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No.14402
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No.14403
>>10620
No the ultimate redpill is that sex should only be between husband and wife.
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No.14574
>>14403
You're close, and this thread is close. Semen Retention = Ultimate Redpill.
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No.14575
>>10619
>>t makes so much sense that they get their own dicks cut, which lessens the sensations of orgasms so they won't be as attracted to sex thus spending more time conquering the goyim.
Then why is it that everybody gets cut in America
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No.15105
>>10734
Not true at all about the grannies. My grandma and grandpa fuck. And they're very much in love in their 70s. I only know this because I walked in once. Recently. The mental scarring is helping with nofap.
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No.15107
>>14574
>posting a bunch of quotes to justify your argument
Why do you weirdos cling to the nofap? I mean, your taking it too far, I'm sure even Hitler would agree with me.
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No.15144
>>15107
>spoonfeed me the benefits of nofap
No.
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No.15152
>>15107
>I'm sure even Hitler would agree with me.
Nice bait.
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No.15160
>>15144
>>15152
>Replied to a post about semen retention(no sex at all)
>now I'm pro masturbation
Wew
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No.15161
>>15160
gtfo root drone. jesus kept is semen and so should we. PRAISE JESUS
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No.15162
>>15160
The man adopted the swastika which is a religious symbol in the Vedas. Vedas preach sex only for the purpose of procreation and never pleasure as that is seen as an abuse. Now go be a kike somewhere else.
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No.15187
>>10619
If sex is not for reproduction then it is indeed degenerate.
Sex is meant to reproduce and in turn pleasure is given. The pleasure is there to entice both parties to reproduce. It makes sense from an evolutionary sense.
When reproduction itself is casted away for pleasure (hedonism), then it is degenerate. Condoms are themselves degenerate, along with birth control pills.
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No.15188
>>15187
The problem with modern relationships is that they are founded upon vanity and pleasure. Looks become the most important and the other redeeming traits are ignored because "duuuuuude, she is so hot… but a cunt… worth it duuuude!"
A result is degenerates being with pretty cunts that engage in a relationship with no future. When time passes and the pleasure derived from sex and the looks fade, what made the relationship exist in the first place vanish and it makes means for the relationship to end.
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No.15304
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No.15308
>>15188
>The problem with modern relationships is that they are founded upon vanity and pleasure.
What else do you expect if old values have been forgotten?
There's is nothing left to look for if virtues in modern people are a) faked or b)nonexistent
Sometimes I wonder if it was always like this and if looking for anything in a partner/relationship other than vanity or pleasure is just a tale disney made up and forced upon kids.
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No.15484
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No.15500
Reminded me of this webm. Though I've heard about a book relating the differences between amative and creative sex. Given that we've been finding these related books, I think it might also be a good idea to create a library thread to share them.
>>15308
> Sometimes I wonder if it was always like this and if looking for anything in a partner/relationship other than vanity or pleasure is just a tale disney made up and forced upon kids.
Don't be fooled, the fairytale is a big part of why relationships are screwed nowadays, because kids expect relationships with the chosen one to be all smooth and pretty, and with culture of finding the "just right one" and dropping out at the faintest sight of trouble. In reality though, relationships just take a whole lot of commitment, from both sides, and that's what its lacking in modern society.
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No.15518
>>15304
I have come to the conclusion jews are simply God's wrath for embracing a culture of luxury, vices and most of all sexual degeneracy. Jews were simply the agents meant to deliver the punishment of nature. Jews being nature's worst enemy, will naturally find allies among those non jews who reject nature themselves.
Basically, white men (and other goyim of color suffering under this globalist jew world order) are themselves to blame for everything that is happening to them and their civilization. Codreanu would probably agree.
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No.15536
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No.15622
>porn is bad
>ok
>fapping is bad
>ok, makes sense
>all forms of sexual gratification are bad
You guys go from realizing that excessive onanism is bad to any kind of sex outside of procreation is bad?
I sincerely wish you luck in relationships (if you desire one) without sex.
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No.15625
I have been pleased by this thread because there are many redpilled people opposing all forms of sexual pleasure (unless it comes as a side effect of copulating for procreation) which is the ultimate ideal and tool of a man striving to free himself from the limitations of this material world and fulfill his true potential. I have been pleased, and so I will drop some really valuable knowledge here. I know you all do not like reddit, so I have made an archive.is link. If you follow the information in it, your life will be saved.
If you think it is too much information, at least read the two reddit comments linked in the post on the subject of women - https://archive.is/GQEa5
Learn about semen sublimation, learn about Ojas, learn about how women are the main trap of maya. Ask me about it here and I can elaborate but I ask that you at least read all the comments linked in the post if not the articles and the google document marked MUST READ (!).
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No.15626
>>15625
For those who don't like text, here is some motivation in the form of videos that Srila Prabhupada is worth your time, even if you don't like reading. Force yourself, for saving your life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q17SQRhwmj8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgASZJRtz4I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6FsgpzDjIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkYAOEjF1H4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5aZGIoqtl4 (part 1) , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efNp6e4KN8c (part 2)
If you watch all of these videos your life will be changed. You will be saved. All the best. Please ask me any questions at reddit.com/u/conquersex or shera10001atgmail.com
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No.15632
>>10619
The argument for Fleeing Sexual Immorality is a simple one. Just look at the fruits recreational sex yields. Even if the biblical scriptures aren't enough for you, the statistics don't lie (and neither does God).
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No.15637
>>15625
Please read the articles to find out more. Semen exists in not only the gross form in the genitals but also in a subtle form throughout the whole body. When we think sexual thoughts that semen flows downwards and is converted into the gross form. But when we abstain from sexual thoughts and sexual activities the semen is transformed into Ojas which is a spiritual substance which gives us great benefits in all parts of life.
Physical Benefits -
1. Longer lifespan.
2. Stronger immune system, less diseases.
3. Greater physical strength. A person in the same weight class but with less Ojas will lose to you in every physical competition.
4. Brighter and more lustrous eyes, skin, face, body. Tejas around the body (healthy glow). Darker and thicker hair.
5. More masculine energy and traits.
6. Greater physical stamina. Can churn out immense physical work in a short amount of time.
Mental benefits -
1. Stronger determination, willpower.
2. Amazing photographic memory. Amazing auditory memory (can repeat things heard once perfectly after years. Part of why the vedas are so perfectly well-preserved).
3. Fixed intelligence, concentration.
4. Lots of mental stamina. Can churn out immense mental work in a short time.
5. Noble character.
6. Natural inclination towards spirituality.
A special nerve grows in the brain of one who has followed Brahmacharya perfectly for 12 unbroken years. It gives one the physical and mental faculties required for God realization. What people take many lives to realize, a perfect brahmachari of 12 years can realize very quickly.
In the link I posted and in the google document in the post there are contact details if you have any questions. I'll check this thread for a while too.
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No.15655
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No.17694
>>10738
Kellogg was also the one to get american goys to start circumcising themselves. Terrible practice. Bad for psychological development of babies.
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