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0c69df No.313959 [Open Thread]

SHOCK & AWE! Trump Trade War Batters Crypto, Stock Market, Supply Chains, Global Economy

The application of Tariffs on Saturday, February 1, by President Trump, against Canada, Mexico, and China are affecting Stock Markets. All indices are DOWN in late Sunday evening Trading.

Canada and Mexico say they will retaliate.

Investors seem shocked that President Trump made good on his promise to implement Tariffs. They shouldn't be shocked - he's not the typical phony politician… he actually DOES what he says he's going to do.

US equity futures tumbled as the market prepares for Trade War 2.0, with both tech and small-caps underperforming as the dollar soared more than 1% pre-mkt, trading near a two year high and the yield curve bear flattens after Trump announced tariffs on Canada, Mexico and China, and warned that European levies are coming. The Canadian dollar fell to its lowest since 2003 and the euro weakened. As of 8:00am ET, S&P futures are down 1.7%, but off session lows having tumbled as much as 2% earlier; Nasdaq futures slide 1.7% with the Mag7 all broadly lower (GOOGL -1.8%, AMZN -2%, AAPL -1.9%, MSFT -1%, META -2%, NVDA -3% and TSLA -3%). Pre-mkt, Mag7/Semis are providing no safety and Cyclicals ex-Energy are under pressure as the market analyzes whether "Trade War 2.0 ushers the end of US Exceptionalism" according to JPM. The 2Y yield is +7bps pre-mkt as the bond market forecasts an inflationary impulse from the tariffs, indicating the market is not selling off on growth but rather on inflationary fears. Trump is said to have calls scheduled with Canadian and Mexican leaders today but warns that tariffs will be implemented on Tuesday if no deal is achieved; sets EU as the next target. Today’s macro data focus will be on ISM-Mfg, Vehicle Sales, and Construction Spending.

In premarket trading, North American stocks most exposed to tariffs fall after President Trump followed through on pledges to impose tariffs on Canada, Mexico and China. Shares in automakers, chipmakers and energy companies decline (General Motors (GM) -7.3%, Ford Motor (F) -4.2%, Tesla -3%; NvidPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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0c69df No.313962

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BREAKING! Mexico folds with Trump Trade War, Day 1.

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum folds, says she agreed to send 10,000 troops to the U.S. border after a “good” call with President Trump.

Remarkable.

Sheinbaum released the following post on X (translated):

“We had a good conversation with President Trump with great respect for our relationship and sovereignty; we reached a series of agreements:

1. Mexico will immediately reinforce the northern border with 10,000 members of the National Guard to prevent drug trafficking from Mexico to the United States, particularly fentanyl.

2. The United States is committed to working to prevent the trafficking of high-powered weapons to Mexico.

3. Our teams will begin working today on two fronts: security and trade.

4. They are pausing tariffs for one month from now.”

The development comes hours after Trump told reporters what he needed to see to lift tariffs on Mexico. (Video below)

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1886441687636992078

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0c69df No.313964

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8a98d5 No.313958 [Open Thread]

Corrupt! USAID Paid Media To Publish Propaganda, Bioweapons Research, Regime Change

The latest CIA-mockingbird freakout is over the speed and effectiveness of Elon Musk's DOGE crew - having recently descended upon the US Treasury - only to discover we've been auto-paying everyone, including "known fraudulent or terrorist groups." Now, there's a massive freakout going on over DOGE's access to the US Agency for International Development (USAID) headquarters, where two top security officials were reportedly put on leave after they tried to block DOGE officials from accessing systems at the agency.

As it turns out, Musk's team gaining access to USAID - the deep state's international slush fund, which notably gave Wuhan Lab collaborator EcoHealth Alliance a $4.67 million grant in 2021, then stonewalled when asked for documents - and handed Ukrainian energy giant Burisma a lucrative contract months after Hunter Biden joined its board, and gave $15 million to organizations linked to George Soros - kicked a massive hornet's nest.

In a Sunday letter to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Demoncrats on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee penned an angry screed expressing "deep concern" about the USAID office.

Meanwhile, Musk has been dropping USAID redpills all weekend. For example:

“Did you know that USAID, using YOUR tax dollars, funded bioweapon research, including COVID-19, that killed millions of people?”

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 2, 2025

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1886129005759262964

“USAID has been paying media organizations to publish their propaganda.”

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 2, 2025

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1886143806476583310

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8a98d5 No.313960

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8a98d5 No.313961

File: 573fb418e9d484d⋯.png (22.54 KB,3235555.png)

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5d1276 No.313949 [Open Thread]

Systemic Corruption! Top Treasury Official Rage Quits After DOGE Reveals Mass Fraud

Well, well, well - DOGE moves into the Treasury, triggering their longest-serving, highest-ranked career official to quit in a huff, and they find that department has essentially been auto-paying everyone, according to Elon Musk.

"The @DOGE team discovered, among other things, that payment approval officers at Treasury were instructed always to approve payments, even to known fraudulent or terrorist groups," said Musk in a Friday night tweet. "They literally never denied a payment in their entire career."

That is absolutely insane. How many billions or trillions have they wasted in recent years? I bet the fraud is massive. If these officers knew *everything* was approved… Did any of their friends or family get paid fraudulently? Will likely need to be investigated!

— Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) February 1, 2025

https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1885584680369479885

David A. Lebryk, a decades-long Treasury official who President Trump named as acting secretary upon taking office last week, announced his retirement in a Friday email to colleagues. According to the report, Lebryk had a dispute with Musk surrogates over access to the US government's payment system used to disburse trillions of dollars every year.

The Musk surrogates are affiliated with the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), and have been asking since the election for access to the system, according to the report. The requests were reiterated after Trump's inauguration. After Trump pick Scott Bessent was confirmed as Treasury Secretary on Monday, Lebryk ceased to be acting agency head.

The payment system in question is run by a handful of career officials within the Bureau of the Fiscal Service - which controls the flow of more than $6 trillion annually to households, businesses, anPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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3d12a0 No.313957

Corrupt! USAID Paid Media To Publish Propaganda, Bioweapons Research, Regime Change

The latest CIA-mockingbird freakout is over the speed and effectiveness of Elon Musk's DOGE crew - having recently descended upon the US Treasury - only to discover we've been auto-paying everyone, including "known fraudulent or terrorist groups." Now, there's a massive freakout going on over DOGE's access to the US Agency for International Development (USAID) headquarters, where two top security officials were reportedly put on leave after they tried to block DOGE officials from accessing systems at the agency.

As it turns out, Musk's team gaining access to USAID - the deep state's international slush fund, which notably gave Wuhan Lab collaborator EcoHealth Alliance a $4.67 million grant in 2021, then stonewalled when asked for documents - and handed Ukrainian energy giant Burisma a lucrative contract months after Hunter Biden joined its board, and gave $15 million to organizations linked to George Soros - kicked a massive hornet's nest.

In a Sunday letter to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Demoncrats on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee penned an angry screed expressing "deep concern" about the USAID office.

Meanwhile, Musk has been dropping USAID redpills all weekend. For example:

“Did you know that USAID, using YOUR tax dollars, funded bioweapon research, including COVID-19, that killed millions of people?”

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 2, 2025

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1886129005759262964

“USAID has been paying media organizations to publish their propaganda.”

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 2, 2025

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1886143806476583310

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6be43a No.313956 [Open Thread]

Corrupt! USAID Paid Media To Publish Propaganda, Bioweapons Research, Regime Change

The latest CIA-mockingbird freakout is over the speed and effectiveness of Elon Musk's DOGE crew - having recently descended upon the US Treasury - only to discover we've been auto-paying everyone, including "known fraudulent or terrorist groups." Now, there's a massive freakout going on over DOGE's access to the US Agency for International Development (USAID) headquarters, where two top security officials were reportedly put on leave after they tried to block DOGE officials from accessing systems at the agency.

As it turns out, Musk's team gaining access to USAID - the deep state's international slush fund, which notably gave Wuhan Lab collaborator EcoHealth Alliance a $4.67 million grant in 2021, then stonewalled when asked for documents - and handed Ukrainian energy giant Burisma a lucrative contract months after Hunter Biden joined its board, and gave $15 million to organizations linked to George Soros - kicked a massive hornet's nest.

In a Sunday letter to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Demoncrats on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee penned an angry screed expressing "deep concern" about the USAID office.

Meanwhile, Musk has been dropping USAID redpills all weekend. For example:

“Did you know that USAID, using YOUR tax dollars, funded bioweapon research, including COVID-19, that killed millions of people?”

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 2, 2025

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1886129005759262964

“USAID has been paying media organizations to publish their propaganda.”

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 2, 2025

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1886143806476583310

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d7e8f2 No.313952 [Open Thread]

Neo-con Lite Marco Rubio Grows A Brain Stem, Admits Multi-Polar World Is Here To Stay

New Secretary of State Marco Rubio said something amazing and very positive today, during a television interview. He talked about the "Unipolar" world (a theory conjured by neo-con war hawks and currently adopted by the radical left in which the US is the sole predominate global power over the entire world) NOT being the usual way the world works.

He plainly stated that it sort of became Unipolar, with the US in the top spot, after the Cold War. He ALSO said that it is returning back to multi-polar, with other nations like China and Russia resuming their global roles. The mere public acknowledgement of this is an utterly stunning development, in what many people see as a very positive way.

He said the most basic starting point for United States Foreign Policy SHOULD BE strategy. We need to ask, before we do anything, "What is the strategic objective?" He added that before we engage in any foreign policy, we have to already know "What is the purpose, the mission?"

Continuing, he went on to say "The mission of American Foreign Policy… and I think this has been LOST… The mission of American Foreign Policy is to further the national Interests of the United States of America."

He went on to observe "That's the way the world has always worked. The way the world has always worked is that the Chinese will always do what's in the best interests of China. The Russians will always do what's in the best interests of Russia. The Chileans will always do what's in the best interests of Chile, and the United States needs to do what's in the best interests of the United States." AMEN!

Rubio then covered the most basic reality when he said "When our interests align, that's where we have partnerships and alliances. Where our differences are NOT aligned, that is where the job of Diplomacy is to PREVENT CONFLICT, while still furthering our national interests, and understanding they are gonna further theiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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abb06d No.313955

Biden Era Neo-cons Owe The World An Explanation What The Failed Ukraine War Was For

It is no longer easy to tell what the Ukraine War was for. Very early on, US goals got grafted onto Ukrainian goals, and the hybrid braid became hard to disentangle. “This is a war that is in many ways… bigger than Ukraine,” the State Department announced in the first weeks of the war. But, whatever those goals, few of them remain: There will be no NATO membership for Ukraine, there will be no recovery of all of its territory, and there will be no weakening of Russia.

Former US President Joe Biden, Former UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky have a lot of explaining to do, as do other corrupt neo-con war pigs like Anthony Blinken, Jake Sullivan and Victoria Nuland.

Zelensky will need to explain to his exhausted nation why choosing the path of war over the path of diplomacy after the Istanbul talks in March and April of 2022 was worth the cost. At that time, what still seemed to be the Ukrainian goals — continued sovereignty and the withdrawal of Russian troops to pre-war boundaries — might have been met. Zelensky must explain why he succumbed to Western pressure to pursue wider ones.

Zelensky is going to have to explain why pursuing those wider goals was worth the loss of so much life, limb and land. And, if he is to survive politically and, perhaps even physically, he is going to have to find someone else to blame.

He already fired Valery Zaluzhny, who served as Ukraine’s military commander-in-chief until last year. Now, Ukraine’s security service has arrested two generals and a colonel on the charge of failing to protect Ukrainian territory from Russian advances. But blaming the generals won’t be enough to acquit Zelensky. The war went on after Zaluzhny and continued to worsen. And no one will buy the blaming of field commanders. “We were defending a huge swath of the border, we fought to the death in the first hours of the attack,” said soldiers in one brigade after their former commander was arrested. “We were short of people, ammunition and support but wePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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0a6b5e No.313954 [Open Thread]

Biden Era Neo-cons Owe The World An Explanation What The Failed Ukraine War Was For

It is no longer easy to tell what the Ukraine War was for. Very early on, US goals got grafted onto Ukrainian goals, and the hybrid braid became hard to disentangle. “This is a war that is in many ways… bigger than Ukraine,” the State Department announced in the first weeks of the war. But, whatever those goals, few of them remain: There will be no NATO membership for Ukraine, there will be no recovery of all of its territory, and there will be no weakening of Russia.

Former US President Joe Biden, Former UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky have a lot of explaining to do, as do other corrupt neo-con war pigs like Anthony Blinken, Jake Sullivan and Victoria Nuland.

Zelensky will need to explain to his exhausted nation why choosing the path of war over the path of diplomacy after the Istanbul talks in March and April of 2022 was worth the cost. At that time, what still seemed to be the Ukrainian goals — continued sovereignty and the withdrawal of Russian troops to pre-war boundaries — might have been met. Zelensky must explain why he succumbed to Western pressure to pursue wider ones.

Zelensky is going to have to explain why pursuing those wider goals was worth the loss of so much life, limb and land. And, if he is to survive politically and, perhaps even physically, he is going to have to find someone else to blame.

He already fired Valery Zaluzhny, who served as Ukraine’s military commander-in-chief until last year. Now, Ukraine’s security service has arrested two generals and a colonel on the charge of failing to protect Ukrainian territory from Russian advances. But blaming the generals won’t be enough to acquit Zelensky. The war went on after Zaluzhny and continued to worsen. And no one will buy the blaming of field commanders. “We were defending a huge swath of the border, we fought to the death in the first hours of the attack,” said soldiers in one brigade after their former commander was arrested. “We were short of people, ammunition and support but wePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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8da0b8 No.313953 [Open Thread]

Biden Era Neo-cons Owe The World An Explanation What The Failed Ukraine War Was For

It is no longer easy to tell what the Ukraine War was for. Very early on, US goals got grafted onto Ukrainian goals, and the hybrid braid became hard to disentangle. “This is a war that is in many ways… bigger than Ukraine,” the State Department announced in the first weeks of the war. But, whatever those goals, few of them remain: There will be no NATO membership for Ukraine, there will be no recovery of all of its territory, and there will be no weakening of Russia.

Former US President Joe Biden, Former UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky have a lot of explaining to do, as do other corrupt neo-con war pigs like Anthony Blinken, Jake Sullivan and Victoria Nuland.

Zelensky will need to explain to his exhausted nation why choosing the path of war over the path of diplomacy after the Istanbul talks in March and April of 2022 was worth the cost. At that time, what still seemed to be the Ukrainian goals — continued sovereignty and the withdrawal of Russian troops to pre-war boundaries — might have been met. Zelensky must explain why he succumbed to Western pressure to pursue wider ones.

Zelensky is going to have to explain why pursuing those wider goals was worth the loss of so much life, limb and land. And, if he is to survive politically and, perhaps even physically, he is going to have to find someone else to blame.

He already fired Valery Zaluzhny, who served as Ukraine’s military commander-in-chief until last year. Now, Ukraine’s security service has arrested two generals and a colonel on the charge of failing to protect Ukrainian territory from Russian advances. But blaming the generals won’t be enough to acquit Zelensky. The war went on after Zaluzhny and continued to worsen. And no one will buy the blaming of field commanders. “We were defending a huge swath of the border, we fought to the death in the first hours of the attack,” said soldiers in one brigade after their former commander was arrested. “We were short of people, ammunition and support but wePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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549722 No.313951 [Open Thread]

Neo-con Lite Marco Rubio Grows A Brain Stem, Admits Multi-Polar World Is Here To Stay

New Secretary of State Marco Rubio said something amazing and very positive today, during a television interview. He talked about the "Unipolar" world (a theory conjured by neo-con war hawks and currently adopted by the radical left in which the US is the sole predominate global power over the entire world) NOT being the usual way the world works.

He plainly stated that it sort of became Unipolar, with the US in the top spot, after the Cold War. He ALSO said that it is returning back to multi-polar, with other nations like China and Russia resuming their global roles. The mere public acknowledgement of this is an utterly stunning development, in what many people see as a very positive way.

He said the most basic starting point for United States Foreign Policy SHOULD BE strategy. We need to ask, before we do anything, "What is the strategic objective?" He added that before we engage in any foreign policy, we have to already know "What is the purpose, the mission?"

Continuing, he went on to say "The mission of American Foreign Policy… and I think this has been LOST… The mission of American Foreign Policy is to further the national Interests of the United States of America."

He went on to observe "That's the way the world has always worked. The way the world has always worked is that the Chinese will always do what's in the best interests of China. The Russians will always do what's in the best interests of Russia. The Chileans will always do what's in the best interests of Chile, and the United States needs to do what's in the best interests of the United States." AMEN!

Rubio then covered the most basic reality when he said "When our interests align, that's where we have partnerships and alliances. Where our differences are NOT aligned, that is where the job of Diplomacy is to PREVENT CONFLICT, while still furthering our national interests, and understanding they are gonna further theiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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ad477b No.313950 [Open Thread]

Neo-con Lite Marco Rubio Grows A Brain Stem, Admits Multi-Polar World Is Here To Stay

New Secretary of State Marco Rubio said something amazing and very positive today, during a television interview. He talked about the "Unipolar" world (a theory conjured by neo-con war hawks and currently adopted by the radical left in which the US is the sole predominate global power over the entire world) NOT being the usual way the world works.

He plainly stated that it sort of became Unipolar, with the US in the top spot, after the Cold War. He ALSO said that it is returning back to multi-polar, with other nations like China and Russia resuming their global roles. The mere public acknowledgement of this is an utterly stunning development, in what many people see as a very positive way.

He said the most basic starting point for United States Foreign Policy SHOULD BE strategy. We need to ask, before we do anything, "What is the strategic objective?" He added that before we engage in any foreign policy, we have to already know "What is the purpose, the mission?"

Continuing, he went on to say "The mission of American Foreign Policy… and I think this has been LOST… The mission of American Foreign Policy is to further the national Interests of the United States of America."

He went on to observe "That's the way the world has always worked. The way the world has always worked is that the Chinese will always do what's in the best interests of China. The Russians will always do what's in the best interests of Russia. The Chileans will always do what's in the best interests of Chile, and the United States needs to do what's in the best interests of the United States." AMEN!

Rubio then covered the most basic reality when he said "When our interests align, that's where we have partnerships and alliances. Where our differences are NOT aligned, that is where the job of Diplomacy is to PREVENT CONFLICT, while still furthering our national interests, and understanding they are gonna further theiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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f448f6 No.313947 [Open Thread]

After US Funding Freeze, Ukrainian Media Outlet Leaks Alleged Trump Plan To End The War

The Ukrainian news outlet Strana has published leaked details of President Trump’s alleged plan to end the war in Ukraine in 100 days.

According to Newsweek, which said it couldn’t verify if the details were accurate, the plan starts with holding a phone call between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin in late January or early February, followed by meetings with both Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in February or March.

The leaked plan calls for a ceasefire to be declared by Easter, which falls on April 20. The truce would involve Ukraine withdrawing troops from Russia’s Kursk Oblast.

Once the ceasefire comes into effect, a peace conference will begin hammering out the details of a lasting agreement. The plan calls for a deal to be reached by May 9.

Once the details of the agreement are released, Ukraine will be instructed to end martial law and mobilization. That would mean Zelensky could lose power since his presidential term expired in May 2024, and he used martial law as the justification for not holding new elections. The plan would require allowing parties who oppose continuing the war with Russia to run for office.

Some of the proposed ideas under the plan for a Russia-Ukraine peace deal include barring Ukraine from joining NATO, an agreement for Ukraine to join the EU by 2030, and the EU facilitating Ukraine’s construction. Ukraine would also be able to keep its military and continue receiving military aid from the US, which could be a non-starter for Moscow.

The proposal would also require Ukraine to cede the territory Russia has captured. Ukraine would have to “refuse military and diplomatic attempts to return the occupied territories” and “officially recognize the sovereignty of the Russian Federation over them.”

Zelensky’s office has denied that the peace plan is authentic, although other media reports have said tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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f448f6 No.313948

They are pissed because most of the Ukrainian media was funded by the US State Department since the war, foreign aid funding which has been cut off for 90 days pending review (too much waste and corruption going on from previous administrations).

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d60698 No.313946 [Open Thread]

Good! Trump Administration Cuts All Funding To NGOs Aiding Illegal Immigration

DHS Secretary Kristi Noem has announced she and Trump have stopped ALL GRANT FUNDING for the NGOs who are assisting in the invasion of the United States

Organizations like Catholic Charities and Red Cross received over $340 MILLION in 2024 from DHS assist illegals crossing the border.

“We’re not spending another dime to help the destruction of this country.”

MY COMMENT: They should no longer be called "non-governmental" organizations when the federal government is funding them with taxpayer money and servicing them on a federal level!!! If the federal government funds them, they ARE governmental organizations!!

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1884722049811132633

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1884339632210600161.html

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cd24c8 No.313945 [Open Thread]

GLOBAL REALITIES AND THREATS OF 2025 - 2030:

1) The economic damage done to America over the last decade has been extreme. Due to massive national debt insolvency, horrible economic policies, horrible foreign policies, wasteful governmental spending, a corrupt incompetent and bloated bureaucracy the American economy will take many years to recover. Hopefully under a new Trump administration they can boost energy production, bring down energy prices, lower interest rates for credit card debt and loans, lower taxes and give incentive to produce more here. In the meantime inflation is here to stay, be prepared.

2) Corrupt suicidal European governments want a major war with Russia badly. Europe is NOT a place you will wish to have your money in or to invest heavily into. European governments absolutely refuse to give up on project Ukraine. The coming war between Europe and Russia will happen, and when it does it will be lights out for most of Europe, with an economic collapse, martial law and harsh austerity measures that include the seizure of assets, bank accounts, pension funds and savings, combined with social unrest from new conscription laws and nullification of any freedom or individual activities. GET OUT OF EUROPE: physically and financially.

3) America, China and India will become the biggest safe havens during the Europe-Russian war. China and India will not become directly involved with this coming war. Americans, for the most part, are dead against being dragged into conflict to save Europe's corrupt asses. Trump is not likely to come to the rescue of assholes who are currently running Europe, it would be both extremely unpopular and face large popular resistance and be political suicide for Trump's administration. Trump will likely tell Europe if they wish to commit suicide they do it on their own terms, not at the expense of America. America will be a safe haven, simply be prepared to hunker down comfy at home, refuse to be involved with the war and pop some popcorn for the future destruction of Russia, Ukraine AND Europe.

4) The goal hegemony of the WEF/Davos "elites" is crPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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8347b6 No.313936 [Open Thread]

Everlasting Good! Donald Trump Calls For Federal Audit Into The Billions $$$ Sent To Ukraine

Donald Trump is calling for a comprehensive audit of the billions sent to Ukraine, and the Biden administration appears to be terrified of what might be revealed.

For too long, Americans have been kept in the dark about how their hard-earned tax dollars are being spent.

This audit could reveal shocking truths about corruption, mismanagement, and backroom deals that serve the elite, not the people.

Transparency is coming, and the globalists’ agenda is being shaken.

https://twitter.com/TrumpVission/status/1883504760143151387

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5d76be No.313937

Uh oh…. ‘audit’ is a no-no word usually.

JFK wanted an audit. There was supposed to be an audit of the DOD after 9/10/2001…

another audit? That’s a big word…

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8347b6 No.313938

>>313937

Yah, it's only a "bad word" when you have a very corrupt government.

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8347b6 No.313944

GLOBAL REALITIES AND THREATS OF 2025 - 2030:

1) The economic damage done to America over the last decade has been extreme. Due to massive national debt insolvency, horrible economic policies, horrible foreign policies, wasteful governmental spending, a corrupt incompetent and bloated bureaucracy the American economy will take many years to recover. Hopefully under a new Trump administration they can boost energy production, bring down energy prices, lower interest rates for credit card debt and loans, lower taxes and give incentive to produce more here. In the meantime inflation is here to stay, be prepared.

2) Corrupt suicidal European governments want a major war with Russia badly. Europe is NOT a place you will wish to have your money in or to invest heavily into. European governments absolutely refuse to give up on project Ukraine. The coming war between Europe and Russia will happen, and when it does it will be lights out for most of Europe, with an economic collapse, martial law and harsh austerity measures that include the seizure of assets, bank accounts, pension funds and savings, combined with social unrest from new conscription laws and nullification of any freedom or individual activities. GET OUT OF EUROPE: physically and financially.

3) America, China and India will become the biggest safe havens during the Europe-Russian war. China and India will not become directly involved with this coming war. Americans, for the most part, are dead against being dragged into conflict to save Europe's corrupt asses. Trump is not likely to come to the rescue of assholes who are currently running Europe, it would be both extremely unpopular and face large popular resistance and be political suicide for Trump's administration. Trump will likely tell Europe if they wish to commit suicide they do it on their own terms, not at the expense of America. America will be a safe haven, simply be prepared to hunker down comfy at home, refuse to be involved with the war and pop some popcorn for the future destruction of Russia, Ukraine AND Europe.

4) The goal hegemony and WEF/Davos "elites" is crumbPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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b1655b No.313941 [Open Thread]

DEEP STATE VS DEEP SEEK! DEEP SEEK JUST BROKE DEEP STATE MONOPOLY OVER AI!

Let me break down why DeepSeek's AI innovations are blowing people's minds (and possibly threatening Nvidia's $2T market cap) in simple terms…

1/ First, some context: Right now, training top AI models is INSANELY expensive. OpenAI, Anthropic, etc. spend $100M+ just on compute. They need massive data centers with thousands of $40K GPUs. It's like needing a whole power plant to run a factory.

2/ DeepSeek just showed up and said "LOL what if we did this for $5M instead?" And they didn't just talk - they actually DID it. Their models match or beat GPT-4 and Claude on many tasks. The AI world is (as my teenagers say) shook.

3/ How? They rethought everything from the ground up. Traditional AI is like writing every number with 32 decimal places. DeepSeek was like "what if we just used 8? It's still accurate enough!" Boom - 75% less memory needed.

4/ Then there's their "multi-token" system. Normal AI reads like a first-grader: "The… cat… sat…" DeepSeek reads in whole phrases at once. 2x faster, 90% as accurate. When you're processing billions of words, this MATTERS.

5/ But here's the really clever bit: They built an "expert system." Instead of one massive AI trying to know everything (like having one person be a doctor, lawyer, AND engineer), they have specialized experts that only wake up when needed.

6/ Traditional models? All 1.8 trillion parameters active ALL THE TIME. DeepSeek? 671B total but only 37B active at once. It's like having a huge team but only calling in the experts you actually need for each task.

7/ The results are mind-blowing:

- Training cost: $100M → $5M

- GPUs needed: 100,000 → 2,000

- API costs: 95% cheaper

- Can run on gaming GPUs instead of data center hardwPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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b1655b No.313942

>>313941

[2/3]

8/ "But wait," you might say, "there must be a catch!" That's the wild part - it's all open source. Anyone can check their work. The code is public. The technical papers explain everything. It's not magic, just incredibly clever engineering.

9/ Why does this matter? Because it breaks the model of "only huge tech companies can play in AI." You don't need a billion-dollar data center anymore. A few good GPUs might do it.

10/ For Nvidia, this is scary. Their entire business model is built on selling super expensive GPUs with 90% margins. If everyone can suddenly do AI with regular gaming GPUs… well, you see the problem.

11/ And here's the kicker: DeepSeek did this with a team of <200 people. Meanwhile, Meta has teams where the compensation alone exceeds DeepSeek's entire training budget… and their models aren't as good.

12/ This is a classic disruption story: Incumbents optimize existing processes, while disruptors rethink the fundamental approach. DeepSeek asked "what if we just did this smarter instead of throwing more hardware at it?"

13/ The implications are huge:

- AI development becomes more accessible

- Competition increases dramatically

- The "moats" of big tech companies look more like puddles

- Hardware requirements (and costs) plummet

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b1655b No.313943

>>313942

[3/3]

14/ Of course, giants like OpenAI and Anthropic won't stand still. They're probably already implementing these innovations. But the efficiency genie is out of the bottle - there's no going back to the "just throw more GPUs at it" approach.

15/ Final thought: This feels like one of those moments we'll look back on as an inflection point. Like when PCs made mainframes less relevant, or when cloud computing changed everything.

AI is about to become a lot more accessible, and a lot less expensive. The question isn't if this will disrupt the current players, but how fast.

P.S. And yes, all this is available open source. You can literally try their models right now. We're living in wild times!

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1883686162709295541.html

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ed5163 No.313939 [Open Thread]

China Reveals New Cheap Yet Powerful Open Source AI As Western Tech Monopolies Crash & Burn

Investors hammered technology stocks on Monday, sending the likes of Nvidia and Oracle plummeting, as the emergence of a low-cost Chinese artificial intelligence model cast doubts on Western monopoly dominance in this sector.

Startup DeepSeek last week launched a free assistant it says uses less data at a fraction of the cost of incumbent players' models, possibly marking a turning point in the level of investment needed for AI.

Futures on the Nasdaq 100 slid almost 4%, suggesting the index could see its biggest daily slide since September 2022 later on Monday, if those losses are sustained.

Those on the S&P 500 dropped 2%. Shares in AI chipmaker Nvidia fell more than 11%, rival Oracle dropped 8.5% and AI data analytics company Palantir lost 6.5% in pre-market trading.

DeepSeek, which by Monday had overtaken ChatGPT in terms of downloads on the Apple Store, offers the prospect of a viable, cheaper AI alternative which has raised questions about the sustainability of the level of spending and investment on AI by Western monopolies, including Apple and Microsoft.

"We still don’t know the details and nothing has been 100% confirmed in regards to the claims, but if there truly has been a breakthrough in the cost to train models from $100 million+ to this alleged $6 million number this is actually very positive for productivity and AI end users as cost is obviously much lower meaning lower cost of access," Jon Withaar, a senior portfolio manager at Pictet Asset Management, said.

https://www.aol.com/chinas-deepseek-sets-off-ai-071458525.html

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ed5163 No.313940

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Reminder: The Free Market always wins.

Centralized monopoly never works.

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