No.4888 [Last50 Posts]
Remember that women aren't fit to rule since by their very natures they are not truly members of any tribe. They are heavily selected by nature to smoothly transition from one tribe to another by marriage or warfare. White knighting them by allowing them to lead is foolish since women have no nation. They do not care where higher status men come from and they'll absorb the language and customs of wherever they happen to end up.
>muh blonde goddess
That blond-haired, blue eyed goddess who can do no wrong just will fuck the swarthy Mongol who burnt her village and slew all her Darwininan loser brothers.
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No.4906
>>4888
What about St. Joan d'Arc, St. Olga the Great, and based Boudica?
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No.4914
>>4906
Joan of Arc was basically a cheerleader and had no administrative power. St. Olga was pretty cool and I don't know enough about Boudica to say anything one way or the other. However, you have to realize that these women are an exception among noble women, and noble women are themselves exceptional compared to women in general. So you're dealing with a pretty heavy selection bias in your examples, which include a disproportionate amount of outliers. And even though these outliers exist, the average female ruler is far less effective.
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No.4937
>>4888
I hate to use the same insult as so many leftists, but this wreaks of Incel logic and has an anti-monarchy undercurrent to boot. There are plenty female rulers that were good rulers like Duchess Eleanor, Empress Catherine, Emperor Irene, Queen Mary, Empress Xiaoqinxian just to name a few.
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No.4945
>>4937
Sure, women can be good rulers, especially if they trust the men in their council of advisors, but we have to recognize that these are the exception and not the rule. There are unfortunately far too many counterexamples of women in positions of authority severely fucking shit up; two that come to mind to me is the USN vessel that crashed into a container ship because Sarah and Natalie weren't talking to each other, or the all-woman corporation that went bankrupt in less than a year because everyone was too busy catfighting to get any work done.
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No.4946
>>4937
Eh, women are usually weak and don't want to be masculine and authoritative. Not to mention people still throw their unrealistic expectations on woman monarchs like Queen Elizabeth II. As I have encountered, they generally say stuff like "Why doesn't she just abolish parliament and lead the army around". I would adore this. Unfortunately, this isn't something an older grandmother is wont to do.
>>4945
Agreed, women of the heroic quality are definitely a welcoming presence and sometimes even better than males at times for certain feminine qualities a man cannot possess. These are rarer instances and imo male-preferred primogeniture shouldn't be equalized for women and just leave those to rare exceptions.
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No.4948
>>4906
>Boudicca
Shit monarch. At one point she had captured most of England and led the largest army that the Romans had ever faced. After chasing a small Roman army for months, brutally torturing anyone left behind, she finally caught up with them. Despite the sheer size of her force, her shitty leadership led to her army being decimated, while she was either killed or disappeared.
Joan of Arc was more of a figurehead, iirc.
Olga was pretty cool.
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No.4950
>>4946
that has less to do with her gender and more to do with the repercussions such a move would have on the monarchy, because there's no way it wouldn't fail. There are many in Australia that still haven't gotten over the time her Governor-General dissolved the government in order to prevent Labour from dragging the Queen into politics. Queen Victoria caused a chimp out simply because she refused to replace some of her Bedchamber ladies to reflect the change in parliament. Hell, the very reason that Elizabeth is on the throne is because Edward chose to abdicate when presented with the threat of the Prime Minister resigning in protest and plunging the country into a crisis by making the monarchy look like a political actor.
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No.4953
>>4950
>plunging the country into a crisis by making the monarchy look like a political actor.
Isn't this disappointing?
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No.4988
>>4888
>That blond-haired, blue eyed goddess who can do no wrong just will fuck the swarthy Mongol who burnt her village and slew all her Darwininan loser brothers.
I'm willing to bet that you watch cuck porn.. like alot.. and it has warped your perception of what women are. You project the personality of the crackwhore sluts you watch onto all women, when in reality, you probably don't even speak to any women irl. You are correct that women are not natural leaders as men are, and that on average and in general you don't want to put a female in charge. That being said, you sound like a cuck, you seem to actually believe that women want to be raped by invaders. Have you ever considered that it isn't attraction to "high value men" that makes women vote to bring in the 3rd world, but their motherly instinct, wanting to mother everyone in the world? Somali men are not high value, if you hadn't watched 6,000,000 hours of interracial cuck porn, you wouldn't jump to that conclusion. It isn't the idea of dating someone from Liberia that causes women to accept the 3rd worlders, but the pictures of little drowned/starving 3rd world children.
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No.5006
>>4888
internationalism is not a problem
priority of emotions and empathy over reason is the problem
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No.5010
>>5006
Internationalism is very much a problem, as the internationalist are in favor of subverting a monarch's sovereignty in favor of some nanny state, worldwide bureaucracy.
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No.5012
>>4945
>these women who weren't ordained by God and were likely pushed forward as diversity quotas are totally emblematic of why women can't rule
Sure thing, buddy. If I wanted to use that same garbage tier logic, but use it against men and with something a bit more relevant to the discussion, I might say something about how Tsar Peter III's sycophantic desire for approval from a male figure like Frederick the Great severely undermined the achievements of his predecessor, Empress Elizabeth, and showed why a woman, in this case Catherine, needed to usurp his authority and take command of Russia and that this shows that women make better monarchs.
But I wouldn't say something like that though, because it's bad logic and undercuts the numerous good male monarchs just as yours undercuts the numerous good female monarchs.
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No.5013
>>5012
> the numerous good male monarchs just as yours undercuts the numerous good female monarchs.
I already did concede there were more than a few good female monarchs. But proportionally, bad female monarchs are more common than bad male monarchs.
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No.5019
>>5013
can I get some stats on that? because frankly, it sounds like you're talking out of your ass.
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No.5050
>>5010
monarchism is non-nationalistic
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No.5649
Women still aren't fit to rule.
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No.5650
>>5050
You don't need to be nationalist to be anti-globalist.
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No.5655
>>5650
what exactly is antiglobalism?
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No.5658
>>5655
For me, it means being against ceding power to suprrnational organizations like the UN or the EU.
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No.5659
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No.5660
>>5658
is not an empire a supranational organization?
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No.5662
>>5660
I'm not one for empires, either.
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No.5676
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No.5679
>>5676
Don't touch my shit and don't fuck with my life, and I won't fuck with yours. Non-expansionist monarchy is the second best way to achieve this after ancapistan.
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No.5699
Remember by large female monarchs have:
A. Failed to govern capably,
B. Failed to produce a capable heir
C. Both.
When you do get a female ruler look for:
A. Overgrowing taxes.
B. Lots of chimpouts.
Take Isabel of Castile, successful reign maybe, yet the only surviving daughter is called Juana the Mad. Or Elisabeth I who might have had some policy successes but never marries so the throne passes to a damn SCOT. Or Catherine II: lots of wars on many an end of the empire, serfdom goes downhill, YUGE levels of public and/or private corruption, and the only legitimate son alienates the ruling class then gets killed five years later. Finally there's Xingzhen: it is during her period of influence that the Chink's homeland really took a nosedive, so much they lost war with Japan.
You might as well let a Nigger rule over you.
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No.5710
>>5699
But at least they are hot and cute.
Right?
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No.5761
>>5679
what is your /liberty/ flag?
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No.5785
>>5699
>the throne passes to a damn SCOT
oats are delicious and there's no E in whisky
our egalitarianism is pretty cancerous
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No.5788
>>4888
Reminder that (most) men (in the west) aren't fit to rule either because they cuck-out and actively work against their tribe whereas women just go with the flow. My own family is a perfect example of this. Dad is pro-zion anti-ebil-nazis pro-jew/christian and chose to be this way. Mom was just born into it and defers to Dad. If Dad says it doesn't matter if the European race dies out, and constantly acts as a nigger apologist, Mom ignores the issue nya~
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No.5789
>>5785
Yeah and she was a blood papist fanatic and lost the throne. Celts are the most cucked people on Earth. Now Boudica was the greatest female leader in history. She won and won until she risked everything and lost due to her rage (Romans liked to rape) and pride nyA~
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No.5795
>>5788
>sacrificing oneself for tribe
>not cucked
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No.5943
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No.5951
>>4988
No, this is human nature in differences between the sexes. Freud may have had a few good points but projection is Jewish. If you think human nature is changeable you might as well support Unruhe's theories. Read some Hegel and Kojeve's reading of Hegel and the end of history (the latter was a firebrand Marxist but when it came to Hegel he interpreted it well. Althusser is another Marxist on the 'ally' side of Neoreaction) and settle down
Waste of good dubs btw
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No.5952
>>5699
More whites are on welfare than blacks but that's none of my business I guess
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No.5953
>>5789
Not really when you consider the state of England these days. They may have tried but almost all of western Europe has our blood in them. Oops. Not to mention at least two Roman emperors were gaulish celts
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No.6343
>>5952
Found the leftypol/redditor.
By the way, go look up the words per capita.
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No.6578
>all the people ITT praising an adulterous murderor as a good monarch
Catherine “”the great”” is burning in the lakes of gehenna for her sins, don’t admire a whore.
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No.6587
>>6578
>falling for the commie propaganda
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No.6588
>>6587
I'm pretty sure it's true.
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No.6591
>>6587
>Contemporary stories from inside and outside of russia are communist
>implying she didn’t commit regicide
>implying she didn’t have multiple affairs
>implying she wasn’t a power hungry whore
>implying she wasn’t drunk on enlightenment philosophy
OP is right about women monarchs Saint Joan of arc was a general not a king, Saint Olga was a regent whose job was to watch over the throne until her son could assume power, Boudica was a genocidal maniac that slaughtered innocents and was btfo’d by a much smaller roman army because of her horrible leadership, et cetera et cetera.
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No.6606
>>6591
Must be some cuckchanners/redditors who buy into Muh Enlightenment and Muh Merit.
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No.6607
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No.7215
My idea is a bit… "radical" on this.
I believe male and female monarch must "separate" the roles to rule.
Women (usually) tries to achieve superiority in society via knowing around important people, arranging marriages and friendships in society via "middle-manning" that benefits thier status etc. Men tries to achivie the same effect via use of overwhelming force to enforce some kind of hierarchy that they themselves lead.
Thus women know integral workings of a society much better than man and they are more "up-to-date" than male monarchs about what is going no in a society (provided they are not sheltered in a castle for their lives). Hence male monarchs must deal with military, diplomacy, some economics etc while female ones must deal with the internal order and court relations.
One proff is that when man tried to build empires fast via conquest and brute force these have "fallen from inside" just as fast because neither the elite nor local peoples have been "integrated" into any meaningful social structure they would like and hence destroying it when the male figure dies.
>>4937
Pretty much this.
I can add Tomris (Tomyris) of Scythia, the Bulgar Khatun who wrecked Byzantium and Maria Theresa.
>>4914
>cheerleader
That cheerleader pretty much saved a whole nation with her cheerleading. She is OK in my books.
>>5050
Have to disagree quite a bit. Sure a monarch can rule over many peoples, such as Empires. But this will never end well neither of the original peoples that monarch comes from nor the other ruled peoples. History teaches us this.
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No.7235
>>5013
youre literally just making this up. there simply havent been enough female monarchs in history to conclude that theyre statistically less competent. if anything, female monarchs are more successful because they are more well-liked by their powerful male subjects.
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No.7349
>>7235
>female monarchs are more successful because they are more well-liked by their powerful male subjects.
Female monarchs are great when they're the exception and not the rule, tbh. There is something inspiring about the idea, and they definitely humble their subjects.
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No.7350
>>7235
>is a proud cuck
I'm sure you're proud to have a half-Nigger grandson too.
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No.7351
No non-cuck man respects men who submit to a woman. Hence pussywhipped being such an insult.
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No.7353
>>7349
yeah id have to agree. i dont think it would carry the same importance if women being rulers was just as common as men.
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No.7354
We've had plenty of years to find women who have worthwhile contributions in anything within the public sphere. There are little to none. Be it in the government or business or science.
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No.7600
>>6343
Don't use reddit and leftypol is an sjw fag circus. I'm from /fascist/
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No.7602
>>7600
>fascist
>supports Niggers
Sure, cuck.
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No.7625
>>4937
Wow, you can name five (5!) competent female monarchs. Women are emotionally unstable, less intelligent and are essentially big-children. They will never earn the respect from men that a charismatic and powerful man would in her stead.
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No.7632
All other things being equal, a daughter inheriting the throne is preferable to a brother inheriting the throne. The daughter is descended from the current monarch. The brother is not.
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No.7650
>>7632
You'd be wise to avoid any Saudi embassies.
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