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Do you believe in Gravity? Edition
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Stone Ocean (ストーンオーシャン Sutōn Ōshan) is the sixth part of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, published in Weekly Shonen Jump between 2000 and 2003. Originally titled JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 6 Jolyne Cujoh: Stone Ocean (ジョジョの奇妙な冒険 第6部 空条徐倫 ―『石作りの海』(ストーンオーシャン) JoJo no Kimyō na Bōken Dai Roku Bu Kūjō Jorīn -"Sutōn Ōshan"-), the arc spans 158 chapters and is preceded by Vento Aureo.
In 2011, Florida; Jolyne Cujoh, daughter of Jotaro, is wrongfully accused of a crime she didn't commit and sent to a maximum security prison. While imprisoned, she struggles within a longstanding plot agreed between dead villain DIO and ideologue Enrico Pucci.
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No.7756
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No.7757
>>7753
wtf is this
>>7750
Seeing the world end like this is actually pretty cool.
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No.7758
>>7757
Refer to >>7654
Parallel universes m8
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No.7759
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No.7760
>>7759
Is Weather Report flipping the Gay Nigger off?
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No.7761
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No.7762
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No.7763
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No.7764
>>7763
>in the new universe Annasui is a pimp
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No.7765
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No.7766
>>7763
There it is ladies and gentlemen and Cronas. Part 6 ends with
>Everyone except Emporio dying
>The entire universe getting destroyed
>A new universe fans dubbed the "Ireneverse" taking its place.
For the first time that I can remember a villain actually succeeded in a big way. Granted it's because Araki thought he was getting out of the game, but you have no idea how refreshing it is to see everything completely destroyed. Araki still had to do pointless moral-cucking at the end, but I still love this.
Part 7 will start in a new universe fans call the "Steel Ball Run Universe." It is still another parallel universe so there will be similar characters. For starters Johnny Joestar is that universe's equivalent to Johnathan Joestar. Gyro Zeppeli is William Zeppeli etc.
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No.7767
>>7761
>>7762
That was the dumbest fucking ending in all of Jojo's. I'm fine with some sketchy quantum mechanics but that's now how oxygen toxicity works. 100% oxygen at 1 atmosphere of pressure isn't lethal. It would have to be a pressurized room, and a normal room would just break before it arrived at a pressure where oxygen is level even at 100%. Aside from that you just convulse and die instantly, you don't slowly lose consciousness.
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No.7768
>>7767
*oxygen level is lethal
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No.7769
>>7767
Yeah I didn't like Pucci losing at the end either. It was pointless moral cucking. "Fate is walking the path of Justice!" Yeah, but everyone you know and love is now dead along with the universe you were born in. If that's part of Fate's plan I don't know if you should be for it so hard.
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No.7770
>>7769
Part 7 sounds like it has a cool setting to me. The return of Zeppeli is a plus.
Unfortunately I'm going to be on hiatus for a lot of this coming part, or a good bit of it and then I'll be spotty for a while. Which reminds me, do any of you want mod powers in case anything happens while I'm not here?
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No.7771
>>7767
I'm less bothered with the actual science behind it (since it's just a manga) and more bothered with the fact that he had ANOTHER hidden ability to save the day. First the frogs then the snail illusions now this.
>>7766
It was an interesting ending so I'm not gonna think too hard about it. Though I am gonna say that there is no way this was Dio's original plan. He must have just been lying to Pucci or something cause this is far too tame for someone as sinister as Dio.
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No.7772
>>7770
Are you going somewhere? I'll post some makas while you're away.
For the mod thing you could make a vol account and post the login here during one of manga threads then delete it like you did with the cytube account.
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No.7773
>>7770
I was actually meaning to ask for mod status to potentially police any strays that intend to spoil, but with that never happening and you here I decided against it. Croner is a more fitting candidate anyways.
>>7771
>bothered with the fact that he had ANOTHER hidden ability to save the day.
This bugged me too.
>Though I am gonna say that there is no way this was Dio's original plan. He must have just been lying to Pucci or something cause this is far too tame for someone as sinister as Dio.
Apart from the stuff he did in Part 1, and killing some meaningless THOTs what did he really do? That was the funny thing about parts 2 and 3 is that, apart from having a reckless disregard for life, Kars and DIO never really did anything wrong.
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No.7774
>>7773
Well he did molest Kakoyin and Polnareff
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No.7775
>>7770
>>7766
>>7771
>>7773
I should also say that this is why Kars is never coming back, Shizuka will never be a JoJo, or any other world building that I cautioned against can take place. I'm digging for the summary of the history of JoJo's on Leddit right now, but basically by this point Araki was tired of it and wanted out. He took a year break between 5 and 6 and another between 6 and 7 after campaigning so hard that 6 would be the end of JoJos. When he did come back part 7 was just called Steel Ball Run, but it was unmistakably JoJo's. His editors respected his success, but weren't having this so they forced him to just call it JJBA Part 7: Steel Ball Run. Because of all these factors and more Araki officially moved to Ultra Jump several chapters into 7.
>>7773
And Okuyasu's dad. When your CHA stat is at 11 you don't need consent.
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No.7776
Part 6 was bretty gud, I'm not a huge fan of changing to an alternate universe though, I'm sure it'll be cool but nothing can top the original timeline imo
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No.7777
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No.7778
>>7777
Makamod is dead! Long live Excalibur!
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No.7779
>>7771
I guess it's nitpicking but it strikes me because the whole method of killing someone is basically impossible, the only way people can really die from that is fucking up mixed-gas diving or someone fucking up the gases a hyperbolic chamber.
I wonder if Dio could be alive in the new universe?
>>7772
>Are you going somewhere? I'll post some makas while you're away.
I'm going to Myanmar for a little bit (flying this weekend) because I guess there's a lot of heroin and it might be my only chance to see a genocide in person and probably Bangladesh because I know a guy there that said he wanted to show me around. Then maybe India (if I have family there for work) or Laos/Thailand/Cambodia (if the person I'm going to Myanmar with ends up going that way). So I might be on sometimes for that bit but probably not at the usual time. So that would be a couple weeks.
Then if the weather is right for it I was going to do some innawoods in the northeast after I get back.
>For the mod thing you could make a vol account and post the login here during one of manga threads then delete it like you did with the cytube account.
Yeah that's probably the best idea. You're all welcome to write it down and use it if it becomes necessary. I'll do it tomorrow though.
>>7775
That's kind of shitty. I would thing he would have enough pull to do what he wants. But it seems like even high-profile and successful manga writers don't have total control over their careers.
>>7776
I'll reserve judgement. Partly because I looked at the synopsis for this and it seems really badass.
>>7777
Checked.
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No.7780
>>7777
I was going to suggest making whoever rolled Heaven quads BO and the true owner shows up!
Please Excalibur get rid of this filthy niggerBO. We need you!
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No.7781
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No.7782
>>7777
>>7778
>>7780
>>7781
Can't argue with those digits
login:
pw: changed password to ZSF's PoE character name since the post was up for a long time and someone other then us 4 might've seen it
Write it down somewhere. I think mods can edit posts to which can be handy. Have fun but not too much fun.
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No.7783
>>7775
Damn. It feels like Araki is being forced to make more JoJo. Especially since he planned to end Jojo at part 3
The manga is still interesting and the endings to the parts always puts smiles on my face but it definitely feels a bit formulaic at this point.
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No.7784
>>7779
>I guess it's nitpicking
You're right in general, but when it comes to things like this I try to rationalize it by thinking of another way it could have worked, and it is functionally different. Even then the greater concern to me is the theme and narrative direction. Emporio defeating Pucci with that moral stance in general is far more egregious to me than the means he used. Pucci stopping just shy of making Heaven permanent because Emporio living would cause it to be slightly imperfect was also annoying, but not really different than the other annoying fuckups past villains have done.
>Bangladesh because I know a guy there that said he wanted to show me around. Then maybe India (if I have family there for work) or Laos/Thailand/Cambodia (if the person I'm going to Myanmar with ends up going that way).
Good thing you already read part 3! I hope you get to see a genocide too.
>>7783
>Damn. It feels like Araki is being forced to make more JoJo. Especially since he planned to end Jojo at part 3
It's hard to say. I don't know what his finances are like or if it's just the typical Jap need to never stop working. However he is the one who went back to Jump, and when he did he made a product identical to his previous one.
>it definitely feels a bit formulaic at this point.
I don't know what part 7 holds apart from a few hype stands and one hype villain. What I will say is that D4C only falls under the umbrella of "time-space fuckery endboss stands" in the loosest of terms.
Part 8 seems interesting, but apparently it's going nowhere. That's my only concern going forward.
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No.7785
>>7784
>and it is functionally different
<and if it is functionally different
Whoops. Point was there was probably another way, maybe less bullshit, of immobilizing Pucci in that room. This doesn't excuse what was written, but it reduces dwelling on it.
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No.7787
>>7779
>I'm going to Myanmar for a little bit (flying this weekend) because I guess there's a lot of heroin and it might be my only chance to see a genocide in person and probably Bangladesh because I know a guy there that said he wanted to show me around. Then maybe India (if I have family there for work) or Laos/Thailand/Cambodia (if the person I'm going to Myanmar with ends up going that way). So I might be on sometimes for that bit but probably not at the usual time. So that would be a couple weeks.
Then if the weather is right for it I was going to do some innawoods in the northeast after I get back.
Stay safe dude, sounds wild.
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No.7788
>>7783
Out of curiosity I googled it and found a reddit page where someone said his net worth is like 13 million US. I think he could do what he wants.
>>7784
>I hope you get to see a genocide too.
Me too. Really I should have went like a year ago because now it has the attention of the UN.
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No.7789
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No.7790
>>7788
Reminds me of that movie No Escape with Owen Wilson playing a tense, serious role. Wasn't too bad, but it could have used more atrocities happening for both general entertainment, and making the stakes more dire.
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No.7791
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No.7792
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No.7793
>>7769
fuck you i like happy endings; my only regret is we dont get to see alternate-universe Jotaro and if Emporio gets to keep Heavy Weather
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No.7794
>>7793
What is this a stray? Pucci achieving Heaven on Earth would have been far happier.
>>7792
He's reaching. Irene is Jolyne in spirit, but it's still not Jolyne. By his logic Johnathan isn't dead because Johnny Joestar exists.
I also counted the amount of pages I'd be posting per night under the part 7 "schedule" and realized I have to actually write a proper schedule.
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No.7795
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No.7796
>>7794
I've been around since you started dropping posts on /b/; i just haven't been part of the inner circle, nor have i gone out of the way to announce myself. I've been actually reading regularly since about half-way through part 3, when i realized the stoic bancho was finally the protragonist; downloaded the first two parts once i convinced myself Speedwagon was a badass and i had to see his spectacular activities, only to learn he hardly did shit.
But yeah, nah, Pucci was a cunt. His sister died because he hired a guy to break them up rather than just talking things out with Weather. The reason Jolyne focused on him is because he went out of his way to target the Joestar bloodline. The reason he got killed in the end is because be had to press Emporio rather than let him live out his life in the jail, probably never even thinking of Heavy Weather or knowing how to find the priest. But, of course, maybe it was all destiny, and it was his destiny to falter there; it's easy to trust in gravity until that gravity crushes you, itself.
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No.7797
>>7794
I take it back. I can't rationalize a decent way to post these other than by volume. Just means we'll be starting off heavy. I'll post the first chapter, which is 30 images now, for the curious and to relieve pressure off of Thursday.
>>7796
>Wants to read with us
>Doesn't want to interact
That's very odd. I'm not against it of course, but at that point shouldn't you just read solitary? I don't think we're that entertaining.
Pucci was a cunt. However what he achieved, in a genre where the badguy is always stopped at the last minute is still incredible to me.
I was just saying that for Araki to pull his "Justice always prevails" card at the end like he did is very hollow. When it is done after an important person, a city, or whatever is lost there is the sense that it is gone forever, but you can build in its place. When the entire universe is destroyed such posturing is meaningless.
If this were an alternate universe where Araki wasn't ready to quit, then it could have ended with Emporio defeating Pucci and restoring the previous universe. Then that posturing would be justified.
>once i convinced myself Speedwagon was a badass and i had to see his spectacular activities, only to learn he hardly did shit.
When I'm dictator of Earth such remarks will earn you a free castration.
>But, of course, maybe it was all destiny, and it was his destiny to falter there; it's easy to trust in gravity until that gravity crushes you, itself.
This is probably what rubs me raw about it. Fate rolled the dice that dictate this timeline will end prematurely? Fine. Fate dictates Pucci will fail at the last moment and Heaven will not be achieved? Fine, Fate is blind and has no biases afterall. Pucci will fail because Fate has a sense of justice? Uh, no. If that were true then Pucci could not have eliminated a timeline. Rather I prefer Emporio's posturing to just be coincidental and Fate really is random. Meaning a whole timeline was killed for no reason other than RNG. It's cosmically terrifying.
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No.7799
>>7797
>Pucci was a cunt. However what he achieved, in a genre where the badguy is always stopped at the last minute is still incredible to me.
you should really finish watching or reading Deathnote Jojofag, I think you'll appreciate it
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No.7808
>>7799
Oh? Maybe I will then. I didn't stop reading for any particular reason I can remember. Maybe I thought at the time it would never get as good as L vs. Light? It's been too long, but I still remember all the actual details very distinctly.
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No.7811
>>7798
New thread up as well as the first chapter of SBR. Which is about equal to three normal chapters.
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No.7813
>>7797
>shouldn't you just read solitary?
I don't think i honestly like JoJo. I find everything before part three kinda boring and even idiotic, during part three interesting but not exactly enthralling, and everything after part three hamfisted, starting from Josuke's grandfather dying and Jotaro telling him sometimes people just die, when at the end of part three Joseph was dead for at LEAST twenty minutes, with his spirit ascending to the heavens, before he got revived by the SWF and miraculously came back to life. However, it's getting posted here, it's getting posted with a schedule, and it's getting posted with a crowd, so not only do i have updates to look forward to, but i can see reactions of other people as they see it, which i can sometimes enjoy. Some of this goes back to Homestuck, and the nature of reading something bit by bit and the community going nuts between updates, as opposed to just reading something front to back and missing all the absurdity and speculation from the peanut gallery. Hell, i blazed through the first two parts on my own super fast, and i'm not sure i got half so much thrill out of that as i do from going through these chapters with breaks inbetween.
>When I'm dictator of Earth such remarks will earn you a free castration.
He had a bladed Oddjob propeller hat in his first appearance, with him even skilfully juggling it around his head and arms, and we never see it again or even any alternative hat attacks. The best thing he does is thaw out Zeppeli's arm, and the next best is beating one (1) generic zombie with a sledgehammer, which we also never see again (until the chariot race in part two apparently). I think he looks cool, and i definitely enjoy his stalwart attitude, but the homeboy's sub-Yamcha.
>It's cosmically terrifying.
In terms of the meta-reason, blame Araki. He thought of it, he penned it, he made it canon. He is the true god, his will be done. Assuming the universe has some kind of logic to itself, i don't believe in fate. I don't think the will of the cosmos was driving Pucci onward, and i don't believe god's divine will was guiding his hand. I think it was all a matter of people's own force, and that force is what led to this outcome. It's easy to look back on a series of highly unlikely events and call it all fate or divine will, but it's all a series of personal choices that happened to culminate into the events that they did; maybe if Pucci had made the personal choice to not try to be underhanded about his sister's relationship, or maybe if he went to another, less vaguely-mexican detective, none of this would have come about. He made that choice, and every choice thereafter, and even the one to chase the goastson into his goastroom, which may have made a difference, especially in that narrow passage where the disc got shoved into Emporio's head.
But, you know, again, blame Araki. For good or for bad, it's all on him.
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No.7815
>>7813
You are an oddball.
>In terms of the meta-reason, blame Araki.
That should already be assumed.
>I think it was all a matter of people's own force
Except Fate is a real concept in the series as shown in Sleeping Slaves as well as other places; like these final chapters were everyone knows their Fate. It even has its own wiki page http://jojo.wikia.com/wiki/Fate
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No.7819
>>7815
Rolling Stones was a stand, and it's will is the reason things happened like that; the rest of those things are circumstantial at best. Fate is just a spook.
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No.7820
>>7819
Your head-canon doesn't change what was written stalkerfag.
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No.7828
>>7813
>I don't think i honestly like JoJo. I find everything before part three kinda boring and even idiotic, during part three interesting but not exactly enthralling, and everything after part three hamfisted, starting from Josuke's grandfather dying and Jotaro telling him sometimes people just die, when at the end of part three Joseph was dead for at LEAST twenty minutes, with his spirit ascending to the heavens, before he got revived by the SWF and miraculously came back to life. However, it's getting posted here, it's getting posted with a schedule, and it's getting posted with a crowd, so not only do i have updates to look forward to, but i can see reactions of other people as they see it, which i can sometimes enjoy. Some of this goes back to Homestuck, and the nature of reading something bit by bit and the community going nuts between updates, as opposed to just reading something front to back and missing all the absurdity and speculation from the peanut gallery. Hell, i blazed through the first two parts on my own super fast, and i'm not sure i got half so much thrill out of that as i do from going through these chapters with breaks inbetween.
That's kind of why I like watching anime week by week but I find myself losing some momentum when you have a week between watching things.
>or maybe if he went to another, less vaguely-mexican detective, none of this would have come about
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>>7819
>>7820
I could see there being room for debate even if Araki didn't intend it. The manga isn't told from a consistently omnipotent POV so Pucci wouldn't necessarily be the authority of everything because he talked to Dio, was a priest and got an op stand. The differences between universes muddy the waters a bit as well.
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No.7829
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