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No.8583 [Last50 Posts]
Some guys in the US built a killbot and now they want to challenge the Kuratas to a duel.
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No.8585
>>8583
>challenging a fake art piece to a duel
what
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No.8590
This had better double main event Bloodymania alongside Jace vs Wu
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No.8592
>>8585
Wait, so if this does go through, we'll basically just be watching two americans in a wonky mech destroy a piece of art?
Why does real life sound like a Megas XLR plot?
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No.8595
>>8585
>a fake art piece
I thought the Kuratas was pretty much just an rich peoples' toy? I didn't know it was outright fake.
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No.8600
>>8595
I'm pretty sure it was constructed as a proof of concept
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No.8602
>>8595
They clearly say on their website that the Kuratas is a work of art and isn't for mass production sale.
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No.8607
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No.8609
Why no one points out the fact that the kuratas are the closest thing we have to a scopedog ( HMD , scooter console , cockpit) , also the fact the creator did made a steel statue of scopedog previously for 100th anniversary of a Japanese steel company ?
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No.8628
>tfw G Gundam might have accurately predicted our future
>tfw in the future, we might finally have Gundam Fight 15
>in real life
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No.8677
>>8602
Sounds more like "We aren't actually selling Boxes stuck onto ATVs armed with BB guns that automatically aim for peoples faces, they are pieces of art!"
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No.8695
Did any of you actually watched the video?
One YEAR to prepare
Having said that, should the Nipponese follow the demands of the Yankees and "upgrade" their art piece, here is how it'll go:
>TL;DR
1) The Yankee model has powerful weapons, wouldn't surprise me. In one year it could have the capability to dent (if not worse) the Kurata; HOWEVER, the decisive aspect of its weapon against the Kurata will be if it damages/breaks ONE (1) Kurata leg. In the case it should damage/break two legs, it will mean pretty much defeat for the Kurata.
2) I doubt the Nipponese will be able to upgrade armor (except cockpit) and weapons to the point where both models could just shoot each other a point blank range. The strength of the Kuratas is the maneuverability. To put this into detail, the mechanics of the Kuratas allows it to have greater choice for movement, both in area covered during movement and within it's own frame. With tuning, this possible movements can become faster, anyone who seen a Kurata video knows how painfully SLOW are its movements. I doubt overall the Kurata can become much faster, but it possesses greater relative speed.
3) Given these two points (I have many more to give), the breakdown of the fight will focus on the Kurata's higher maneuverability and speed as well as the Yankee-bot's power and defense. The weapons they use could determine the fight in ways to long to post, use your imagination… even non-lethal weapons can incapacitate a mecha, which will win the fight. I wouldn't be surprise if there is some "BIAS" in the judging of the fight… AND consequent BUTTHURT
4) FINALLY, I would expect the fight to be very SHORT if the Kurata is hit in its leg. It can take ONE to FOUR minutes if the Kurata keeps dodging or staying away from fire while attacking the joints, but most importantly the "tank" legs. The fight could take a LONG time if the Kurata stays away from danger (with higher mobility and speed) while carrying ineffective attacks (I doubt the pilots will have MILITARY experience or MECHANICAL experience, to know WHERE to shoot).
>inb4 who i am? I'm writing a scifi book (for chan NEETs, for free). I like realism which lead me to work in a new area of physics: I have equations and 2 papers to prove it, which will come WITH the release of my work.
>pic related, have done much more, but that's what I want to share WITHOUT spoiling
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No.8783
>>8695
>2048
Maybe bump it up a few years? I don't think mecha will be probably in 30+ years
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No.8785
I just want this to happen
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No.8841
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No.8842
>>8841
>But you know, we really need MELEE COMBAT
>I want to punch them to scrap and knock them down to do it
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No.8844
>>8841
Its fucking happening, G Gundam in the making
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No.8845
>>8841
What a fucking time to be alive.
I don't care if the Kuratas is an art piece. I don't care if this will be staged for publicity or some shit. So long as I see two machines punching each other, I'm happy.
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No.8849
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No.8850
>>8845
Even if it is, this might motivate companies to develop real mechas. This might become a real thing. Mecha battles, sport of the future.
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No.8852
>>8850
Come to think of it, more and more of industrial companies are into developing exosuits like that power loader from Aliens or for military. This could be a cool civilian application of this tech.
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No.8853
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No.8856
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>>8841
amerobo's entrance music
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No.8857
>>8856
I think I'm just going to call the Mk. II "Amerobo" from now on. Its real name is fucking dumb anyway.
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No.8858
So, is there two different KURATAS robots or what?
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No.8859
>>8858
One is clearly the prototype, and the other is the ace custom.
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No.8860
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No.8861
>>8850
This SOUNDS like the beginnings of a future sport. In the future they'll probably look back on how early mech battles, and other stuff like battle bots, began with really simple machines that were often media showpieces or gimmick boxes, but with popularity and more competitors along with better tech, better mechs are a possibility.
A "battle mech" in this context isn't a gundam and probably won't be for a long time, but some wheeled tanks with arms are a good place to start. We don't need all the equations solved at once, we just need enough done to move forward, and that's what we have.
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No.8863
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>>8841
"If we're going to win this. I want to punch them to scrap and knock them down to do it."
…I'm so happy to have lived long enough to see it…
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No.8864
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>>8856
Get your god damn patriotic American Wrestling themes right anon, or I'm calling /wooo/.
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No.8865
>>8859
there's also the yellow one they used in the first ep of the live-action Patlabor series
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No.8866
>>8841
>Re-painting the KURATAS with Char's colour.
>"I want to punch them to scraps and knock them down to do it."
>yfw this is will become a yearly thing and each time the mech's get upgraded.
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No.8867
>>8841
Damn I legitimately dunno whose side to pick
Either way this is going to be fucking awesome
Even moreso with the salt US gave to Japan in the world cup
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No.8870
>>8841
So what are the chances of this not being slow, awkward and embarrassing for everyone involved?
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No.8876
>>8870
That's what will likely happen, though who knows. It may have a small chance of it actually being good/interesting.
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No.8878
>>8876
I don't think anything interesting will happen at all.
The biggest problem is that they're going to try and not hurt the pilots, they're probably only going to go for the legs and arms and stay away from hitting the cockpits. It'll just be plain boring.
I don't know, maybe something will go wrong and somebody ends up dying? Now that'd be interesting.
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No.8879
>>8878
That sounds like the plot for WWIII, I'm all for it.
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No.8894
>>8878
Are people operating under the assumption that these robots are actually going to rip eachother apart, and that this isn't just going to be an elaborate paintball match? These things are expensive technological investments, and I'm sure both sides don't want to ruin their toys.
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No.8896
>>8894
But the Japanese guy said he wants melee combat so he can punch the Mk. II to shit.
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No.8899
>>8896
>Implying Melee Combat isn't just going to be the two robots tagging eachother with a paint roller
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No.8900
>>8899
>mecha Splatoon
Is this a good or a bad thing?
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No.8901
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No.8930
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>>8860
WE NEED TO GET DUNCAN FISHER TO COMMENTATE THE MATCH
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No.8933
>>8841
I'm glad they are accepting it with the corny spirit the challenge was given.
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No.8934
>>8861
This is what the new battlebots should have been.
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No.8942
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No.8965
But are these actually viable in a real combat scenario?
How long until we have mechs on the battlefield?
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No.8999
>>8841
>everyone talking about G gundam
I cant be the only one who thinks this will be like some crazy colosseum duel of wanzers.
>>8866
>the Kuratas pilot enters dressed as Char
>the Mk.II pilot enters dressed as Texas Mack
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No.9157
>>8841
I actually was not expecting this.
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No.9402
>>8965
>But are these actually viable in a real combat scenario?
Obviously not.
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No.9553
I kind of want to root for america, if only because it would make for a better show
Kuratas can be piloted remotely if I recall, so if they both get together and rig the fight beforehand, they can go all out and have claprobo blow the absolute shit out of mech-san without hurting anything but japan's wallet
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No.9555
>>9553
Didn't the Japanese guy say this thing was his childhood passion? I don't think he'd willingly let it get destroyed like that.
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No.9609
>>8899
This truth is just too shocking and funny.
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No.9744
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Megabots have gone to kickstarter to fund their upgrades. I have a feeling that they'll make all their stretch goals, one day in and they already made 48k
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/megabots/support-team-usa-in-the-giant-robot-duel
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No.9746
>>9744
They actually started a (failed) Kickstarter about a year ago, they only got about 10$K.
It seems that because they have a lot more fame and traction now they might actually get this Kickstarter funded.
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No.9747
>>9746
Actually they got about 65$K on their old Kickstarter. I probably should have looked that up before posting that.
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No.9751
>>9555
an integral part of the experience of building your own robot is how you address its destruction in combat
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No.9760
>>9744
>almost 200$k
>they've still got like a month to go
I'm pretty sure this thing is going to end up getting ~3$ million.
It's cool that they have so many people on their team, even guys from NASA, but I'm still worried it'll end up being like what >>8870 said.
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No.9777
>>9744
I'm burning with joy, I can't wait to see this fight , maybe if it gains enough traction we will have olympic giant robot fighting games
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No.9779
>>9777
Nice trips. I'd love to see stuff like this on a giant scale, but the safety regulations would off the fucking charts to the point where it probably wouldn't even be fun anymore.
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No.9781
So in a little less than a year, two companies from either sides of the pacific have to turn their technological test beds into full blown war horses. While the Megabot Team has clearly outlined what sort of upgrades they plan on making, my big question is what the Kuratas team plans to do to take their art piece and make it combat-ready. You /m/en have already pointed out potential weaknesses. What do you think the other side is going to do to update the Kuratas?
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No.9782
>>9781
My bet is making the torso be able to spin a full 360 degrees and upping the top speed. Kuratas' best bet is to use it's wheels to keep circlestrafing the Mk2 and plink away at it from behind
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No.9783
>>9781
Well, the maker of the Kuratas already said he wants melee combat, so I'd imagine he'd add something to do with that. I also think he'll try to make it more versatile, how well the robots can move will probably be a big factor in who wins this fight.
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No.9784
>>9783
I think the melee choice is the wrong way to go. Both mechs are super top heavy, one good blow will knock them over
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No.9785
>>9784
I'm sure they'll do something to account for that, a fight where two robots hit each other two or three times then one falls over wouldn't be very interesting.
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No.9787
>>9785
>>9784
>'ave you got a SRIMECH?
>'course we 'ave!
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No.9811
>>9781
So I guess I'll followup with some questions to sorta probe for answers in how you guys think the Kuratas itself will change in upcoming months. As it stands, the legs and wheels are somewhat exposed. Do you think that the Kuratas team could uparmor the legs without potentially having to sacrifice mobility? And on the topic of the legs, the Kuratas itself is somewhat topheavy. Does the leg design lend itself to aid or hinder any autobalancing systems that might get installed?
There's also the issue of the Kuratas being a single-piloted robot. Would a single pilot be able to manage all operations of the Kuratas in a live combat situation? Moving and attacking at the same time sounds easy, but is probably very difficult in a machine that you have to manipulate with control sticks and system toggle switches.
And finally weapons. There were a bunch of mock-weapons created for the Kuratas, but now that it's combat time, what sort of weapons do you think will be on the final model? The Kuratas team seems to favor going hand-to-hand, but now that the US team has said "we're doing this with both guns and melee weapons" what options do the Kuratas team have?
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No.9825
Well, only 200K to go. Funding really slowed down after the first 2 days
I'm thinking of putting some money into it
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No.9828
>>9825
They've still got plenty of time to get that 200$k
You should only give money if you really want to, not because you feel you need to.
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No.10031
>>9828
They're getting pretty close to their minimum funding, but if interest stays the way it is, they might not be able to make their stretch goals. Which kind of sucks, because the autobalancers and NASA-grade safety features are a few things that should have been a little higher on their priorities list IMO.
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No.10032
>>10031
Kickstarters tend to get a lot of money on the first and last few days, so it could jump a lot when it gets to ~50 hours left.
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No.10034
Jesus Christ. I was overseas when this was announced, stumbled upon Megabot's challenge today while watching battlebots videos.
I have no words for how much I want to see this happen. The only thing that could improve this would be if cockpits were heavily armored (and I mean really heavily) and they used live ammo. I also have no words for how much I want to build my own, now. I need to get a large junkyard, some engineers, and all of my mechanic buddies. And lots of money.
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No.10039
>>9744
>that fucking upgrade concept
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No.10041
>>10039
That looks so fucking stupid
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No.10088
>>10039
>exposed engine
>a fucking flamethrower
>horns
…
Anyway, I want this to work out.
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No.10090
>>10039
I seriously hope they don't go with that design.
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No.10093
>>10041
>>10088
>>10090
This is probably just a first draft. They'll most likely be forced to tweak the design for practicality purposes, or will need to make changes if they fall short of stretch goals.
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No.10346
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>>8861
>>8878
You may not have intended to or even realized it, but you've just summarized the opening chapter to the Robot Jox novel.
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No.10419
>look at the Kickstarter
>it's still not funded
I'm getting worried
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No.10426
>>10419
>4 days to make 2k
They'll make it. Final days on kickstarters always see some big donations. I pledged 150 a few days ago
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No.10428
>>10419
They're like $67 off hitting their goal, anon. I won't say you should worry too much.
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No.10429
>>10428
And they just got funded.
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No.10451
I'll post pics of the Megabot figure when it comes in.
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No.10474
They've hit minimum funding, but they've fallen far short of their stretch goals. 19 hours to go, and they're only about $30,000 over. A far shot from the 1.5 million they were hoping for. I forget if you can continue to donate to a successful kickstarter after the cutoff date.
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No.10479
>>10474
>I forget if you can continue to donate to a successful kickstarter after the cutoff date.
No, but they could either:
1. Setup another Kickerstarter.
or
2. Setup a PayPal account you can donate to.
I'm not sure they'll do either of those, though. They'll probably just cut their "losses" and go with what they have.
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No.10526
Well, they manged to make a total of $554,592. Not bad, I guess.
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No.12202
>>8592
This is everything I always wanted in life!
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No.12203
>>8841
Oh shit this is pretty co-
>07/06/15
HOW DID I NOT HEAR ABOUT THIS FOR SIX MONTHS?
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No.12352
When did they say this duel was going to happen, again?
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No.12509
>>12352
Late June/early July of this year, I think.
So about six months.
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No.12510
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iZ0WuNvHr8
>the system will fire BB's when the pilot smiles
>the feature is called "THE SMILE SHOT"
>you will be able to take out all enemies with a single smile
>be careful not to cause a shooting spree by smiling too much!
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No.12511
>>12510
>The LOHAS launcher will not hurt anyone
>The weapons lacks the ability to rotate or pivot
>From time to time it will hit *it's target [*actual grammar error from the video]
What a way to market the weapon.
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No.12905
>>12510
>fires 6000 BBs a minute
That's like getting hit with shotgun shell loaded with birdshot every second.
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No.12942
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No.12943
>>12942
He did make that post about a month ago, so it was correct when he posted it.
>>12905
They're probably going at a much lower velocity, though. They're being pushed by CO2, not gunpowder.
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No.12944
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No.12946
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No.12947
>>12946
>never ever
u wot m8
They said when it would happen last year, they just haven't said a huge amount since then.
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No.14175
So, this time next month this shit should finally be happening.
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No.14500
They're actually fucking doing it.
IT'S HAPPENING
>The base was being built by separate contracters who in an interview said it was going to be shipped to California to be joined with the other parts.
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No.14501
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No.14506
>>14500
Everyday i wake up with this being the first thing in my mind, can't wait for this event.
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No.14567
Goddamn this wait is killing me.
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No.14616
This isn't going to happen, is it?
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No.14618
>>14616
kinda seems like everyone except us has forgotten this, but i believe it will still happen, after all the picture at post >>14500 exists
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No.14704
>>14616
They are still posting updates.
I sent them an email via gmail with some questions which they kind of sort of answered.
Bottom line seemed to be they are still working on it but the fight date was pushed back slightly.
Should still be this year though apparently.
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No.14705
>>14704
Forgot the link,
https://www.instagram.com/p/BH0hJsNgyr8/
Posted 5 days ago, them still working on it.
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No.14721
>>14704
>>14705
Wew, what a relief, i was starting to lose faith in this.
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No.14722
>>14721
I certainly think they're going to delay it, though. It doesn't look like they'll be finished any time soon, and the big fight is meant to happen this month.
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No.14723
>>14721
>>14722
They just released a new update.
Fight is delayed till next year due to some logistical issues (not sure exactly what). but they will be doing an unveiling in November.
I don't know about you guys, but I think I can hold out for it.
My expectations are set pretty low for the fight.
I expect it to not be nearly as fast or intense as others are expecting.
I just hope this opens up a gateway for other enthusiasts to try their hand at this kind of stuff.
I remember back in the mid 2000's I used to go to this mech board that was basically a huge catalog of every mech picture there was from movies/anime/cartoons/books/games.
And the people running it were working on a project to make working mech legs.
They apparently sunk a lot of money into it, but at some point I lost track of the website and forgot what it was even ever called.
I think it might of just been deleted off the net not sure.
Either way the point is that I hope this at least happens.
Even if it sucks it will be a game changer.
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No.14726
>>14723
>Fight is delayed till next year
>Fight is delayed till next year
>Fight is delayed till next year
>Fight is delayed till next year
>Fight is delayed till next year
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No.14729
>>14726
I know, it sucks.
Here is the public update they just posted today.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/megabots/support-team-usa-in-the-giant-robot-duel/posts/1634073
It's been awhile since we updated, and for that we sincerely apologize. We've been focusing all of our energy on the robot and our negotiations, and less on outreach. Work on the robot has continued at top speed, and work setting up the duel has continued at best possible speed, but we haven't posted about it for a few reasons. These reasons include but are not limited to:
We're under a mutual NDA with Suidobashi regarding planning for the duel. We cannot legally disclose details about the duel until both parties are ready to release such details.
We're planning an event in which people are piloting multi-ton combat robots that are trying to destroy each other, without harming the pilots, and that takes a lot of careful consideration.
We're in active negotiations with the venue of the duel. Any disclosures regarding the nature of or location of the duel would endanger those negotiations, and could prevent it from happening.
We're documenting the design and fabrication process but don't want to tease much of it until it's finalized and ready to reveal, which won't be for a little while yet.
We don't want to accidentally give Suidobashi an edge on our design by posting too much about it publicly.
We can say that the duel is still on, though delayed, and we're working as hard as we can to sign all of the contracts and lock it down. To give you guys an example of why this is so difficult to work out, transporting one team's robot by air to the venue looks like it will cost around $200,000 to $300,000 round trip - half the cost of what this Kickstarter raised. Transporting the robots by sea is a more cost effective option, but we would risk having the robots arrive rusted, damaged and non-functional - a month or two after we ship them. In addition, getting a completely custom, 6-ton robot specifically designed for combat through another country's customs office is presenting a… whole new level of logistical challenges. Rest assured that our work continues unabated, but progress is slow.
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No.14731
>>14723
>>14729
Im having a bad feeling about this, im really starting to lose faith now.
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No.14738
>>14729
>I know, it sucks.
Talk about a fucking understatement.
I'm not even convinced it will happen at all now.
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No.14746
>>14731
>>14738
My advice is to just ignore the carrot they are dangling around and maybe one day you'll turn around and it will be announced for sure.
The good news is their bot sounds like it will be done sometime this year regardless of if there is a fight or not.
pic related, the least important part of the bot according to most mech fans.
The 'not legs'.
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No.14747
>>14746
Sweet news mate, alright i will follow your advice, there's a chance i won't even be alive to see the next year anyway.
Those tracks are looking good, they are doing a fine job so far.
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No.14750
>>14723
>>14729
This image sums up this whole ordeal pretty well for me
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No.14752
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No.14753
>>14752
cool but
>implying it will be ever used in the fight
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No.14756
>>14753
>implying there will be a fight
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No.14758
>>14756
It looks like it's on the way to being finished.
I think at this point it's up to Kuratas to keep up it's end.
I've search a lot but I can't find anything on their progress.
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No.14817
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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No.14831
They let leak the fact that the new track base weighs about 5 tons, more than the entire stock Kuritas, and I think more than the entire Mk2.
>>14758
Kuratas seems to be keeping quiet. Their stock model is nowhere near combat-ready.
I'd love to see what 2ch has to say, we need an ambassador to go over there and get their thoughts.
>>14756
>>14753
>>14738
It'll happen. Megabots has big sponsors, and Suidobashi is probably privately funded by some crazy rich dude with a boner for mecha. There's been a ton of effort put into this, they're past the point where they can turn back.
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No.14834
>>14831
Did they just take this project into overdrive or are you posting old images?
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No.14837
>>14831
i hope it happens, i really do.
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No.14916
More pictures.
They just got the roll cage in.
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No.14918
>>14916
Progress at a snails pace is still progress I guess.
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No.14921
>>14918
They just got the treads in not too long ago and are now getting in the rollcage and other pieces.
How long do you expect something that is being designed as it's built and never been made before takes to make?
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No.14926
>>14834
Other anon and I are both posting pictures from their facebook page. The track base was posted less than two weeks ago. It looks like it's crunch time for them, they're putting out fairly frequent updates.
They just posted this, they're using these for the cockpit, each with its own dedicated camera. When the fight happens, we'll be able to watch it from so many fucking angles.
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No.14928
>>14926
Yeah, they have been posting almost 3 times a week since their update about the state of the project.
They say they have been just keeping things under wraps for the most part, but I'd wager they also just started getting underway with the project as a whole as well.
Now that a lot of the outside pieces are in their shop now.
Still waiting to see what they do with the legs and the cockpit as a whole.
The screens and cameras make me think it will be 100% enclosed, possibly a small slatted window in the front just in case.
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No.14929
>>14928
The smart (and cool) thing to do would be WWII tank-style windows, little slits of thick bulletproof glass.
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No.14964
>>14926
Just a matter of time before they put everything together.
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No.14971
>>8852
>Come to think of it, more and more of industrial companies are into developing exosuits like that power loader from Aliens or for military. This could be a cool civilian application of this tech.
>>8866
>>yfw this is will become a yearly thing and each time the mech's get upgraded.
>In the future, international disputes are not settled by taxing and bloody wars, but in Single Combat by Mechanical Champion representing the concentrated and combined might of their nations' industry, economy, and academia.
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No.14972
>>14971
There's no reason to namefag outside the Gunpla threads.
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No.15008
>>14971
>>14964
The anticipation boner is real.
At this point though I've blocked out the dreams of a fight and I'm just focusing on how cool their finished mech will be.
I really hope they are working on legs as a side project.
They have made many claims that it's their one true goal for making this into a sport.
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No.15115
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No.15116
>>15115
Yes… YES!!!
…Now if only I could bullshit my own university to let the Biology and Paleontology departments get in on this…
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No.15121
>>15116
That looks like the dumbest shit.
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No.15122
>>15121
>That looks like the dumbest shit.
You sir are objectively wrong.
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No.15130
>>15121
Put your face in one end of the tube whilst your friend puts his or her face in the other end. Answer (not out loud) the following questions:
On present evidence, how many faces do you see in the tube, two or one?
You can see your friend’s face at the far end – do you see your face at the near end?
Isn’t your end wide-open? Doesn’t the tube vanish into nothingness at your end – into clear, boundless consciousness?
How many clear, boundless consciousnesses do you see in the tube, two or one?
Is this single, undivided consciousness at the near end separate from the face at the far end? Is there a dividing line between this space and that face?
As this space, aren’t you built open for your friend, face there to no face here?
Having no face of your own, couldn’t you say that your friend’s face is yours?
Haven’t you always been face to no-face with others?
Come out of the tube.
Take a few moments to share your reactions with your friend.
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No.15138
So the delay is disappointing, and the fight will probably suck, but why is everyone just ignoring the fact that megabots keeps saying they're now setting up the infrastructure for a goddamn mech fighting league
They have fucking corporate sponsors and rich backers funding them
If the MECH FIGHT 2016 2017 is popular enough, we're going to have big boy battlebots
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No.15139
>>15138
That's been the end game since the beginning.
Before they ever challenged Japan they were trying to gain funding for a robot fighting league.
But the biggest problem with that is you need robots to make a robot fighting league.
There are colleges now working on mechs as projects for the students.
It's no coincidence that its popping up more and more.
Even if the fight sucks, interest in it is growing, and now that MB is posting on facebook frequently their posts are getting more and more shares and likes.
2016 is the year of the mech my friends.
And 2017 could very well be the year of the mech fight.
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No.15141
>>15139
Well damn
If only the world's billionaires weren't so caught up in their pussy humanitarian work and spaceflight, maybe we could have already had a badass mech league by now
Hopefully it doesn't get caught up in logistics and we get it sooner rather than later
On that note, I hope the arena ends up being good wherever they end up fighting, it's going to suck if they just kick each other's asses on a flat football field or something
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No.15143
>>15141
>If only the world's billionaires weren't so caught up in their pussy humanitarian work and spaceflight, maybe we could have already had a badass mech league by now
Hey, we need the Spaceflight so we can have Space Colonies!
When we have giant orbital habitats, we can have a ban on conventional projectile weaponry so as to not pop a hole in a trillion dollar tin balloon, so then GIANT ROBOTS!
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No.15150
>>15143
>Humanoid mechs are more impractical than tanks and shit on the ground
>on the ground
>In space, everything is impractical for fighting
>Conservative and economic oblong hunks of metal with rockets on the back that can do nothing but ram into each other would be especially bad for fighting
>Long limbs would likely be good places to mount maneuvering thrusters
Shit, that actually makes sense
Okay, space first, then UNDERGROUND SPACE MECH FIGHTING COALITION
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No.15151
>>15141
Sheeeeeeeeeeiiiit.
If more of them actually were caught up in that stuff we would have at least one ship by now that can enter and exit the atmosphere on it's own propulsion.
Mechs take a lot less R&D because all of the technology to build a mech already exists.
The biggest problem with mechs is the legs, and that problem of balance has already been solved by robot enthusiasts.
Just no one has put the time and money into pumping the size up to mech proportions.
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No.15152
>>15151
No, balance was solved by a dedicated professional team propped up by lots of military dollars (Boston Dynamics). Even then, it will be a while before we see it implemented. Do not underestimate how complicated walking on an uneven surface is.
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No.15161
>>15152
I might have misused the word enthusiast there, but basically yes I meant people have been working on it and have for the most part gotten the issue of bipedal robots down.
Boston Dynamics is not the only team working on these issues either.
There are many other research groups and colleges as well, one of which megabots is working with.
http://robots.ihmc.us/
>Do not underestimate how complicated walking on an uneven surface is.
I've been reading about mechs and robots since I was 6 years old.
I've followed this stuff pretty closely.
The biggest issues usually come from robots needing to be programmed for balancing and reacting to changing environments.
The calculations it takes to get through a moving crowd of people are staggering.
There is also the issue of power as well.
Which is also one of the major problems with things like exo suits.
The fact that this is a mech however takes away a lot of the calculations a robot would need to do on it's own, and puts it in the pilots hands instead.
The thing just needs to be able to balance and be able to walk.
Which still takes a good deal of calculations and balance work, but reacting to obstacles and things like that will be in their hands.
I'm going to assume this fight will be on flat ground however, in a stadium.
I don't think a power source will be too huge an issue either.
I'm doubtful they plan on fighting for too long in these things.
Boston dynamics gets a shitload of funding.
But I'm willing to bet if interest were higher, and from a civilian source (random billionaires as that one guy said), then we would have at least one giant robot in the world walking on two legs at this point.
Boston dynamics is working for military use however.
Which is why most of their focus is not on bipedal robots, which are far less efficient than 4 legged robots.
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No.15280
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
New video out. Overly cinematic, but as long as the fight goes on, I'm content.
I was highly amused that they're weaponizing a post hole digger.
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No.15283
>>15280
It almost seems like they're making a documentary for the lead up to the fight.
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No.15287
>>15150
>Okay, space first, then UNDERGROUND SPACE MECH FIGHTING COALITION
Heh, funny you should mention that…
In my own concept for a Gundam setting, the Federation equivalent's first real victory again the Zeon equivalents' Zaku expy was when a Space Mechanic had tackled it with his custom Worker Pod (AKA, a Ball).
His original plans for the vehicle were to start up an underground Ball fighting league of questionable legality (Since the setting has a standing ban on the use of projectile weaponry within or pointed at a Space Colony to prevent catastrophic hull ruptures, which is why giant robots are a THING now, and a Ball going full tilt is practically a bullet).
He then basically becomes their lead Mobile Suit designer, and his biggest innovation is sorta like the core fighter concept, except pic related.
>>15280
>>15283
Fuck.
YES!
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No.15300
>not making an atomic bomb into a mecha
it's like the people involved in this mecha fight have no real strategy against their opponent :^3
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No.15397
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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No.15398
>>15397
>5,776 views
I think people have stopped caring.
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No.15406
>>15397
>We didn't expect paint to kill our pilot
kek
This fight might actually be interesting
They're thinking about this in terms of how to improve their defenses, but I don't know if they ever stopped to consider that if that's what it does to them, what would that gun do to the kuratas
>>15398
It's picking up speed
The trailer was just 2 weeks ago and it has over 200,000
Besides, this "episode" was a whole lot of fucking nothing anyway, so people aren't as likely to get excited and share it
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No.15407
>>15406
Like, just to clarify, the video was at about 7,000 when I first opened the page an hour or so ago, and now it's at 15,000
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No.15464
>>15398
>>15406
19k now.
This video certainly explains why they're a year behind. They've probably gone through enough parts to build another one at this point.
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No.15465
>>15406
and now it's at
>195,969
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No.15492
>>14831
>>14746
>least important
What? I love treads, I personally prefer tanky mechs with treads over tanky mechs with multiple sets of legs
Guntanks>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spider tanks
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No.15493
>>15492
>What? I love treads, I personally prefer tanky mechs with treads over tanky mechs with multiple sets of legs
>Guntanks>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spider tanks
Eh, as much as I love the Loto and the Origins' Early Type Guntank, it really depends on the Theater of Battle when it comes to Spider Legs or Treads for me…
Spider Tanks a great as close infantry fire support platforms in urban or rough terrain, while Tread Mechs would be better for long range bombardment during a high risk of close ranged combat.
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No.15494
>>15493
IMO, i tend to see spider tanks as man-sized and sporting small arms/grenades, whereas "guntank" style mecha as analogues to real heavy tanks, main battle tanks, AA guns, and self-propelled artillery
I suppose it depends on the style chosen by a given IP. Mecha itself is often absurd, but realistic touches such as tank treads (and many other things) can make a mech look more gritty and "real."
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No.15495
>>15494
>IMO, i tend to see spider tanks as man-sized and sporting small arms/grenades, whereas "guntank" style mecha as analogues to real heavy tanks, main battle tanks, AA guns, and self-propelled artillery
Same for myself, except "Guntank" style mecha can go UP from Heavy Tanks and Self-propelled Artillery.
In my own idea for a Gundam setting, for example, has the Guntank analog be less a "mecha" and more "semi-humanoid mobile ANTI-ORBITAL RAILGUN PLATFORM."
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No.15511
>>15492
>>15493
>four legs
>spider
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No.15531
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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No.15532
>>15531
This has to be a tranny.
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No.15534
>>15532
Nah, she's just swole.
>>15531
Beat me to it. Interesting to see them building a brand new robot from the ground up. Should have figured the Mark 2 was just a prototype. I can only wonder how the Kuratas will be changed as well.
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No.15535
>>15534
I don't know, "she's" got that HRT face.
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No.15536
>>15532
>>15535
>You will never have a dickgirl mech engineer as your co-pilot
That's something I didn't realize could actually exist now
And now that the possibility is there, I'm a little more empty inside than I was five minutes ago
It's like all of sci-fi was some shitty monkey's paw wish
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No.15537
>>15536
Stop being gay please
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No.15538
>>15537
No
My dick was meant to explore strange alien worlds no matter what our shitty Bad Future says
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No.15539
>>15538
You want a giant "female" robot with a dick.
You belong on >>>/furry/
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No.15540
>>15539
>robot
What
Anon I think you might be projecting a little
It's okay, you don't have to hide it, there's nothing wrong with a little clang
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No.15541
>>15536
>>15538
futa is worst fetish
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No.15672
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New video up! Treadheads, pay attention!
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No.15673
>>15672
>OH SHIT SON THIS IS THE MOST HEAVY DOODY TANK TREADS EVER FUCK YEAH AMERICA
>OH SHIT THIS IS AMAZING THOSE GUYS THAT MADE THIS ARE AMAZING
>Literally the first time they start the thing up after driving it off the lot
>In a wonderful display of ironic foreshadowing, the metal cock ring around the cockripper 9000 cracks right the fuck in half
I don't know if the guys at Howe & Howe wanted that kind of advertising when they agreed to do this
Not a great start to the wonderful world of custom-built mech machinery
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No.15674
>>15673
Oh wow! Its almost like this is the first time anyone has tried something like this, and there's a shitton of issues that have to be worked out before they can get to the final model. Who would have guessed?
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No.15676
>>15674
>No fun allowed
Anon, it broke the first time they started it up outside the supervision of the guys that sold it to them
It didn't even have a mech on it or anything, they were just testing their controls and hydraulics, and an unrelated piece of metal broke
That's hilarious
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No.15677
>>15673
>MegaBots are posting detailed videos of the MK. II and the upgrades they're getting for it
>Wataru Yoshizaki hasn't said anything about what he's doing with the Kuratas
He's totally watching these videos and making counter upgrades.
America's gonna get wrecked, isn't it?
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No.15678
>>15677
I fully expect that after the first episode, someone at least suggested that they fit a giant wedge onto the kuratas
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No.15680
>>15678
>I fully expect that after the first episode, someone at least suggested that they fit a giant wedge onto the kuratas
Fuck, they're just going to end up with over sized Battlebots trinity, aren't they?
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No.15681
>>15680
Well, there's a fair chance the megabot could end up with a spinning blade
So yes, basically
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No.15714
>>15681
>>15680
>Already expecting saw blades and wedges.
Why not weighted chains though? Granted it would be a bitch to drag that thing around.
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No.15811
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No.15814
>>15811
>No fist
>They're considering pieces of shit like the drill or chainsaw over THE CLAW
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No.15815
>>15814
Claw had low DPS output for the amount of setup it took. The Chainsaw and Stump grinder did not. Let's just hope that nobody dies.
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No.15839
>>15677
> America's gonna get wrecked, isn't it?
What would really be hilarious… Yoshizaki said he wanted melee combat so the MegaBots guys are building melee weapons. Meanwhile, he's most likely secretly developing ranged weaponry to match/neutralize their own ranged capability.
I wouldn't be surprised on D-day Kuratas can:
- Fly (or just hover for short periods)
- equipped with missile racks so he can go Itano Circus right off the bat
- melee weapon is a electrified sword that can shoot electromagnetic bolts or whatever
It's going to be Super Robot versus Real Robot debates all over again, this time brought into the real world.
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No.15840
>>15839
>It's going to be Super Robot versus Real Robot debates all over again, this time brought into the real world.
And that isn't going to be awesome… How?
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No.15890
They're not actually going to hit each other with any of these weapons, right?
I always assumed this was going to be a paintball fight, or the robots would be controlled remotely.
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No.15900
>>15890
>Each team shows up armed to the teeth
>They actually pilot the mechs since it wouldn't be as exciting otherwise
>Someone gets mulched in their cockpit
>Giant robot fights end before they even really begin
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No.15905
>>15900
>>Someone gets mulched in their cockpit
>>Giant robot fights end before they even really begin
Well that was kinda the point of using the Testing dummy in both projectile and melee weapon test; To make sure they wouldn't pulp themselves or the other pilot.
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No.15957
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No.15966
So the Mark III continues to come together. Its definitely more bulky than its predecessor, and capable of lifting a car with relative ease.
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No.15967
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No.16004
>>15673
These things happen, anon. H&H are a well-known company in the circles that care about these kinds of things, although they took a huge hit when military funding took a hit after budget cuts.
>>15967
They have a couple of videos where they show cars being lifted far faster, too. I think they only posted them on goybook, though.
https://www.facebook.com/megabotsinc/videos/1560715330623679/
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No.16017
>>15677
>>15900
>>15905
According to the guys they are actually working really closely with Wataru in regards to safety and the actual rules of the bout, so I highly doubt any of the information they have been releasing will be dangerous to get out, and I doubt any of them will be in real danger in the fight.
They also are working with some guy from NASA who is developing the inner protection to the cockpit, so I think it's safe to assume that any weapons they may be using will be least effective against the cockpit.
My best guess is that both bots will probably line up some where around the same height, and the arms and legs will be at a similar areas.
So it will basically be weapon VS weapon at that point.
They keep talking about how the weapons will all be modular.
So I think what they will do is make destroying the weapons the actual goal.
Like each team comes in with 4 or so weapons, and whoever runs out first loses.
This could end up being a point based sport battle.
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No.16065
>>9777
>I'm burning with joy, I can't wait to see this fight , maybe if it gains enough traction we will have olympic giant robot fighting games
Probably not, normies would write it off as "too autistic" to fund. They just hate giant robots point blank
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No.16112
>>16017
>My best guess is that both bots will probably line up some where around the same height, and the arms and legs will be at a similar areas.
>So it will basically be weapon VS weapon at that point.
>They keep talking about how the weapons will all be modular.
>So I think what they will do is make destroying the weapons the actual goal.
>Like each team comes in with 4 or so weapons, and whoever runs out first loses.
>This could end up being a point based sport battle.
So LITERALLY Robot Jox?
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No.16115
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Tested takes a closer look at the development of the Mk. III, the improvements made in comparison to the Mk II, and the team's aspirations to make giant fighting robots into a sport.
There's a weird crossover promo with some other youtube channel where they make robots that comically fail at the stuff they were designed for, whatever. But it involves that Mk III with giant knife hands, so its a grain of salt sort of thing. Watch if it interests you.
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No.16138
>>16115
>some other youtube channel where they make robots that comically fail at the stuff they were designed for
Simone Giertz is actually fairly well-known already, so unsurprising. This gives Megabots a good chunk of publicity, for the cost of a few hours of bot runtime, film, and some oversized knives.
she's also kinda cute
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No.16141
>>16138
What is that robot doing?
It's touching her mouth or something.
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No.16204
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Dunno how many engineers and car guys there are on /m/, but in this video short, the senior engineer on the Megabots team talks about upgrading the track base's engine and some of the issues that had to be tackled in doing so, mainly finding a mechanic that can fix a check-engine light in a non-standard vehicle.
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No.16205
How far has this been delayed?
It was meant to happen last year.
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No.16240
>>16141
Best guess is that it's attempting to apply lipstick.
Attempting being the operative word here.
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No.16249
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The megabots Team tests their control scheme for the MK III with a little MWO. Yeah, I know, it should be Living Legends instead, but cross promotion, what are you going to do?
Inb4 Kuratas with superior Mouse and Keyboard configuration.
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No.16341
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>>15511
The only reason spiders and mice scamper like they is because of the square cubed law. Tanks treads beat spider tanks in basically every category except scaling sheer sloops
>inb4 tanks are slow and hulking hur
1918 called, they want their theory of armor-as-infantry-support-only back. Do you even blitz, brah?
>>16249
>Inb4 Kuratas with superior Mouse and Keyboard configuration.
psycommu system is the future
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No.16434
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Behold! The greatest advancement in real life mech production! The crane!
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No.16641
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Hydraulics. Lots of tubes and hoses.
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No.16679
>>16341
>Tanks treads beat spider tanks in basically every category except scaling sheer sloops
Well really, that depends on the feet…
Even a tank will have poor traction if it has shitty tracks.
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No.16680
>>16679
Please kill yourself
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No.16687
>>16680
/m/, please never change
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No.16878
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I'm sure everyone here already knows this, but for the sake of posterity I'll put it here, since the thread was non-functional when this dropped.
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No.16879
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Megabots at Launch festival explaining to a panel of judges their vision of taking Megabots and turning it into an arena sport, as well as details about some of their company workings and the revenue behind it. I know /m/ is for Mecha, not business, but robot fights in real life need money, investors, a business plan, and international relations to stay afloat.
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No.17065
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China wants in on the Megabots fight.
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No.17066
>>17065
>Shiqian Sun
What a name
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No.17123
>>17065
This is baffling. How does it intend to fight? Quadruped mode seems to have no reliable attack and the standing mode looks fragile and unstable as fuck.
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No.17125
>>17123
> tfw you realize mecha will never be viable in real-life combat.
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No.17128
>>8583
The big reveal of the finished bot is later this month.
It's looking a lot like this is on.
At least from their end.
No word from Kuratas as far as I know.
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No.17135
I would be so much more interested in this if it were 2 guys in power armor having a paintball duel. Giant robots are a really really bad idea.
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No.17145
>>17135
Their initial kickstarter was for exactly that.
They wanted it to be a giant mech/paintball fight with hit markers and score counters, and the pilots to be behind grates so the paintballs would explode all over them for entertainment value as well.
This whole melee fight is sort of a way to promote it more since their original kickstarter failed.
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No.17147
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>>17123
>standing mode looks fragile and unstable as fuck.
It's actually pretty hard to capsize, probably from the weight of the hydraulic system in it's base
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahtjHY9xsDw
Cant embed because its already posted
Also china is doing one now too
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No.17161
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>>17128
Its coming. Here's the video of the Megabots team assembling and testing the tread and leg assembly.
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No.17162
>>17123
For me the issue is that China built a robot in two months. Maybe its a proof-of-concept, but I hope that they get time to make an arena-ready version.
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No.17164
>>17161
Actually a nice improvement that it can lean with it's legs!
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No.17186
>>17128
Exoskeleton looks nearly finished.
Can't wait to see the armor they put over this thing.
They are also testing it from the piloting position now too, so soon enough this thing will be driving and working it's arms all from the cockpit.
I think it's finally time to get excited again.
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No.17209
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No.17231
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Hold up guys! We got videos coming in from Maker Fair.
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No.17232
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>>17231
This is basically the same video from different angles. Lots of low-impact stuff to show off to the crowd without wrecking the bot before the match.
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No.17233
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No.17234
>>17233
>>17232
>>17231
Youtube audiences seem to really hate it. I hope these faggots know the kuratas has a top speed of 4mph
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No.17236
>>17231
>>17232
>>17233
All those cooling fans are a bit concerning…
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No.17237
>>17236
Honestly the whole thing looks like its about to fall apart. I'm more curious to see the kuratas 2. I think it's overall anatomy looks sturdier. Image if they fitted it with a more high torque engine
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No.17238
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>>17237
>Honestly the whole thing looks like its about to fall apart. I'm more curious to see the kuratas 2. I think it's overall anatomy looks sturdier. Image if they fitted it with a more high torque engine
Which are you talking about here?
By it's very design the Kuratas won't be able to mount a power-plant worth a damn.
If this video features the Kuratas 2, then it isn't much sturdier either despite being a far smaller machine.
The reason I worry about the cooling fans is that it suggest a heat issue, which isn't surprising considering the people who built the tread base seem to rely on air cooling instead of a proper radiator.
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No.17240
I'm still wondering how this will all go down.
It'll probably be pretty embarrassing by the end.
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No.17242
>>17238
Kuratas 2 hasn't been unveiled. Also you could hitch a bigger engine on the backside. What I meant by sturdier is that it doesn't really on high placed legs. If the MK IIs hydraulics are damaged its legs might loose tension and cause the torso to fall. Kuratas does have joints on it's legs but they're placed low and probably out of reach of the MK IIs attacks , whereas the MK IIs legs are in easy reach for Kuratas
>>17240
For whom? They might both fall apart quickly
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No.17246
>>17242
>For whom?
Everyone.
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No.17291
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And Megabots' official reveal.
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No.17292
>>17291
Ah, they were letting Kickstarter's "throw" the canned punches!
Really hope they go for more direct arm controls, because otherwise this thing is going to suck at melee…
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No.17300
>>17291
>yfw megabotsIDF brigades the video for likes when the rest of youtube hates it
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No.17352
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A quick look at the Megabot's torso twist speed at 40% hydraulic pressure. it actually looks pretty responsive to me, but I wonder how much stress it puts on the frame to do that with the arms attached.
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No.17355
>>17352
I love how autistic the Youtube comments on all these videos are.
At Maker Faire
>It's too slow! America a shit!
This video
>It's too fast! The arms will fly off!
>tfw you're the only guy supporting Megabots
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No.17357
>>17355
I don't care who wins or loses, we finally get giant robot fights in the end.
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No.17390
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No.17391
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>>17390
It's begun. Say goodbye to war, lads.
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No.17392
>>17391
If this is how we achieve total Utopia , then totally never saw it coming
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No.17394
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>>17390
>>17391
>It's begun. Say goodbye to war, lads.
>>17392
>If this is how we achieve total Utopia , then totally never saw it coming
I did, and this pleases me…
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No.17395
Here in the cyberfuture robots fight wars and world leaders shitpost at each other.
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No.17682
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No.17684
>>17682
>>All systems nominal
It's the little things.
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No.17685
>>17682
Also, TFW you will never be able to fight in a giant robot while being commanded by Duncan Fisher
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No.17686
>>17682
That last scene where they destroy the MK2 made me hopeful for the actual battle between Eagle Prime and Kuratas.
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No.17687
>>17686
That and the weight of the paintballs they're using make me feel a little bit better
It's still going to be way shittier than what we're hoping for, though
One good hit's all it takes to disable one or multiple systems, and then that's the end of the whole thing, especially since they won't put pilots in danger
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No.17688
>>17687
Yeah, those paintball rounds aren't going to hit softly. They're like squash heads, only they don't explode. Save for the last "experimental" round of course.
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No.17690
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No.17691
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No.17864
>>17390
some delightful Mackie or prototype MS vibes there
>>17691
awesome awesome
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No.17867
>>17390
That fourth one isn't a fighting robot, it's meant for industrial stuff.
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No.17868
>>17867
mech technicals a best
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No.17875
>>17868
>mech technicals a best
It's a shame that most people don't realize this is where we're likely to get a terrestrial combat mech from…
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No.17877
>>17868
Those robutts all have weapons, though.
The Method-Two has nothing.
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No.17879
>>17065
>>17147
>>17162
The designer's an artist who wants to make the thing work out in the end.
There's also another Chinese robot that nobody talked about despite debuting before The Monkey King.
Disregard the Korean robot in the picture, it's not in any sort of way interested in participating.
Also, Megabot's Instagram revealed the arena for the match.
It's an abandoned warehouse.
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No.17882
>>17877
do you not know what a technical is?
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No.17883
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No.17884
>>17883
I think he misses the main idea of the thing.
Going past the BS the CEO spews, it's really just meant to be a cool robot, like the Kuratas.
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No.17887
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No.17893
>>17887
>tfw will probably sleep through it
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No.17894
>>17893
Don't worry, they'll upload the fight as a video instead of a livestream
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No.17896
>>17894
My disappointment is unmeasurable and my day is ruined.
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No.17900
>>17894
I swear, if they drop some choreographed mech duel with editing, music, and a script, I'm going to give up on real life mecha for the rest of my life.
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No.17901
>>17900
DON'T EVEN SUGGEST THIS POSSIBILITY
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No.17903
I hope they get Jeremy Borash to help film it
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No.17905
>>17883
you replied to the wrong post. it doesn't suck, but it's basically a scaled up japanese wrestling robot as of now, and their pr is laughable.
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No.17912
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No.17914
>>17896
>>17900
I know /m/ and mech fans in general have been hyped for this fight to take place, which is why it'll be so disappointing when it's cut and edited and shown in a carefully designed after-the-fact production.
But you have to think of the normies. They won't tolerate something that isn't high-octane and flashy or "impressive". Megabots showed off the Mk.III ripping the cockpit hatch off of the Mk.II recently. I thought it was awesome, Youtube commenters complained about "muh slow" and "muh boring". In order for mechfighting to ever be feasible, you need good designs that are fast and capable of putting up an interesting fight. In order to make those designs, you need a lot of different teams working on their own ideas, trying to perfect the technology.
And for that to happen, you need more than just three teams (one of which is literally a sculpture artist who can't into robotics) competing. You need more than just a few old twitter fans. You need major support, you need to go big.
So that's why it's critical that this fight look GOOD. It will without doubt be cut, edited, and produced like a movie. But like a Kung Fu movie, not a soap opera, it will still have clips, though cherry-picked, that flaunt the absolute best abilities of both robots. The fight will be fake, but also real at the same time.
Only once this catches on will we be able to do stuff like watch it payperview, livestreamed, or live in arenas. And so I'm willing to accept that this first fight will be engineered for enjoyment. It's a necessary evil.
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No.17915
>>17877
>>17867
Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ldJswGpkjY
At two minutes, the president of Hankook Mirae says "what would you use this robot for?" and the host replies "Fighting". The president says "same." So it's clear he's partial to the idea of turning the Method into a fighting machine, if he isn't already planning to.
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No.17976
>>17915
When this technology is developed further it's going to rip the shit out of MK III
Megabots are just weird looking construction machines made for TV edits
The (((megabots))) team (just look at their names and faces) are dishonest television producers who built a low tech excavator that's shaped like a robot so they can wreck things slowly and edit it to look like a battle
Like >>17914 said, current mechs are slow and primitive, and many of the designers specialize in kinetic art and construction machines, not in actual robotics.
The real mecha era will start 50 years from now when Labor crimes become real
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No.18054
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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No.18076
Wasn't this meant to happen by now?
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No.18080
>>18076
Actually, it was meant to happen two years ago. It was postponed to last August, however it was only until September that both mechs shipped to the agreed location. As far as we know from social media, the actual battle has finished and is presumably being editing, trimmed, and tucked into consumable form for when they release the Youtube video. (It was never streamed).
Honestly, I'm almost more interested in seeing how Kuratas was upgraded than actually watching the fight. The fact that it's taking them so much time to release the video turns my stomach.
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No.18082
>>18080
The video is gonna be garbage, but they don't care. They already made their money.
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No.18089
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imagine a kuratas built on this as a base
>>18080
uh oh.
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No.18092
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
runs around $200k, already has beefy hydraulics, time to buy a used and make a mech to put theirs to shame.
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No.18093
>>18089
>>18092
It looks like a farmer designed a mech.
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No.18188
Well, we'll get to see soon enough.
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No.18189
>>18188
>five days
At least it's soon.
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No.18219
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Not much, but Megabots put out a teaser for the match. There are some scant looks at the upgraded Kuratas (its new tracks are conspicuously out of view, but that paint job says it's at least thrice as fast as it used to be)
The address to the twitch stream is in the video. As stated in previous promotional material, the stream of the match goes live on Tuesday, October 17th and 7pm PDT.
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No.18220
>>18219
So the match is actually being streamed? I thought it was pre-recorded.
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No.18221
>>18220
Your guess is as good as mine. I assumed the match was pre-recorded and they were just giving a first look.
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No.18228
>>18219
>hype roll for fight
>little sissy love tap punch
well cant' say anyone here will be surprised, but lol fug
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No.18230
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>18228
Its been well established that they've been pulling canned punches for the promotional material. I just wish they'd move out if the way of the Kuratas so we can see what improvements the Suidobashi team has made.
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No.18234
>>18230
>>18228
I see your point, but you have to consider reality. The shit that goes down in anime where 20m tall robots are punched across a city street and WWE suplexed into the ground is just not possible. Even on the small scale they're doing, you're not going to see big metal crushing punches because no one has the power to do it. Megabots MIGHT have been able to do it to the old Kuratas at absolute max power, but even then you don't know what would happen. If it looks like a sissy punch, remember that these things are freaking heavy and it's probably more of a jolt to the pilots than you'd expect. You wouldn't think that it would be a huge deal, but the old MKII Mech could literally kill the pilot if it fell over, and that was only 5 tons.
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No.18236
>>18234
>big metal crushing punches because no one has the power to do it.
It's also physically impossible to build a giant bipedal machine like a Gundam that could move a a relatively fast speed, it would fall apart under its own weight.
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No.18240
>>18234
i'm not making noise about imitating anime, that thing can torso twist damn fast, it can throw a punch, i'm worried the whole fight might be played like a wrestling match rather than a battlebots match.
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No.18241
>>18240
It can't be played seriously or else they could kill each other.
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No.18242
>>18240
>>18241
So like an actual fight where one team wins and another loses because they actually got destroyed or disabled, and not a fake choreographed match where all the pilots are under some weird kayfabe. Is that what you're trying to say?
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No.18243
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>>18242
yes, I'm saying I want a real match and I'm dubious we'll get anything. it's not that dangerous for the pilots, if they can build a rollcage worth a shit.
also we 10 minutes late. good start.
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No.18244
>>18243
oh wait it's 7PST, 4 hours to go
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No.18245
>>18244
>four hours
It's happening that soon?
It's been delayed so long it's hard to believe.
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No.18246
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>>18243
low buget tv. I thought that guy died in a car accident.
>>18242
jump to around 1:15. thy go over some details of what happened. It was pre filmed because repairs between rounds could take hours.
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No.18247
>>18246
What's even the point of streaming it, then?
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No.18253
>>18247
live q&a
same feeling as if the fight itself was live
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No.18254
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No.18257
>>18254
It's finally happening.
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No.18259
>>18254
Finally live. Refresh if it isn't showing.
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No.18260
>kuratas is inspired by AT Votoms than Gundam
Wew
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No.18261
I'm really liking this Japanese guy.
Hearing him talk about how he likes Votoms over Gundam is cool.
Also this shot is A+.
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No.18262
>>18261
But no one can beat the USA when it comes to building unnecessary weapons.
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No.18263
>>18262
Meh. Kuratas will win.
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No.18264
>YOU CAN'T JUST SLAP GUNS ON SOMETHING AND CALL IT A GIANT ROBOT
>SUPER AMERICAN
>NIPPON BANZAI
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No.18265
The editing on the American videos are so over-the-top.
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No.18266
>>18264
>WHAT WE NEED IS MELEE COMBAT
>I WANT TO PUNCH IT DOWN
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No.18267
>>18266
I would laugh so hard if the Japanese guy wins after all these experts helped upgrade the American robot.
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No.18268
>>18265
You can thank kickstarter for that.
Crowd funding is all song and dance.
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No.18269
can we make a webm out of this when it's done?
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No.18270
>>18267
So will I. It sounds like hollywood was involved more than anything else. Which makes me think the robot is gonna suck.
Look at how much video they have of the dudes talking about it without showing it moving. Also these dudes seem like hollywood tier nerds.
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No.18271
Goddamn these guys are trying too hard to be funny.
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No.18272
The mark 2 looks like it fucking sucks
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No.18273
>taking this much pleasure out of destroying your own robot
This does not respect the robot.
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No.18274
>>18265
That was intentional. I love it tbh, right down to the music.
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No.18275
>>18274
I can't stand it, I feel like I'm watching a video made by Vice.
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No.18276
>>18275
This. It's so fucking gaudy. Kuratas vids were a lot more directed.
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No.18277
>>18276
lot better directed*
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No.18278
I hate all the hollywood numale nerds.
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No.18279
>>18276
It's editing more than directing, American editors are infamous for being ridiculous.
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No.18280
The Mark 3 looks cool, but its creators are unbearable.
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No.18281
All I'm hoping for is that the fight doens't end up like this video. I want this shit to drag out, at least for a while.
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No.18282
>she's gonna feel a little more frisky today
Don't talk about your robot like that, goddamn it.
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No.18284
If you could get behind it the treads are vulnerable at the base.
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No.18285
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No.18286
>they're editing it like it's a car commercial
>>18281
It should go on for at least a minute or two, I doubt it'll go by that quickly.
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No.18287
Reporting and ready for hype
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No.18288
>>18286
I think I will watch this later with no sound so I don't have to hear their video game tier military voices.
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No.18289
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No.18290
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No.18291
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No.18292
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No.18293
This VA's voice is great but his acting skills are lacking.
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No.18294
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No.18295
The first mecha battle of history is about to BEGIN!
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No.18296
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No.18297
Is this where they have all the toku fights…
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No.18298
>(((Mike Goldberg)))
Oh fuck me
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No.18299
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No.18300
>>18298
I can't ignore their noses
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No.18301
What is this shit?
Who are these presenters? Am I watching E3 all of a sudden?
WHERE ARE THE ROBOTS, EGGMAN?
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No.18302
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No.18303
>>18302
They must know the Mark III is shit if they're making the Kuratas fight it twice.
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No.18304
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No.18305
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No.18306
Jesus, they brought out the Mk II
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No.18307
>>18304
Of course they'd bring out a purple hair bitch to an event like this, you can't just have two big robots fighting each other.
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No.18308
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No.18309
>>18287
The kampfer has such lovely linework. It's a gouf with the some of the derived shape from patlabor
Also when exactly does the fighting start? I'm really rooting for the Zeon. also the new kuratas has a really beefed up wheel base
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No.18310
The Japanese pilot is really funny, he's talking so much shit.
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No.18311
>they're voicing over it
Oh God this is cringe already
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No.18312
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No.18313
>>18309
Welp, that went as expected.
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No.18314
welp there we go bye bye iron glory
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No.18315
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No.18316
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No.18317
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No.18318
That megabot went down like a bitch.
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No.18319
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No.18320
>the fall was pretty tough
What a little bitch.
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No.18321
>spending two years preparing
>go down in one hit
NIPPON WINS AGAIN
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No.18322
>ad break in progress
oh god my sides
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No.18323
>>18322
>Here lies Team America's hopes and dreams
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No.18324
I mean, if only one of the legs could move back a little bit, ya know like actual legs should be able to do instead of this backhoe on stilts, it would have been able to take that punch easily.
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No.18325
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No.18326
round 2 supermerica punches kuratas instead
kickstarter obligation fulfilled, cut, wrap
i adore the new kuratas tho, tractormech
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No.18327
That was a fucking throw
There's no way they fucking did this just because
I'm calling it, Megabots win
Fights might be choreographed
Also why the fuck did they pick this picture?
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No.18328
Now this fight is a lot better so far.
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No.18329
go go Japan, beat team Stealh Israel
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No.18330
A drone. Don't bother going for the front Kuratas. It's too heavy.
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No.18331
Go for the weakpoint in the treads after using a drone. The Mark 3 is too fucking armored for a frontal assault.
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No.18332
Got to see the first round but now I have to go to work. Kuratas was rather heavily altered for this fight wasn't it? The large drive section in the rear almost puts me in mind of a halftrack.
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No.18333
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No.18334
>>18332
Yeah. The original Kuratas was a legitimate mech. What he has now is a jousting pole attached to a tractor.
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No.18335
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No.18336
oh boy, here's the chainsaw.
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No.18337
I'm going to love checking Pixiv later to see what Nip draw of this.
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No.18338
>>18337
What tag should I search for?
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No.18339
Why the fuck would you go for a frontal attack.
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No.18340
>>18334
don't mock the punch-tractor, it's adorable and i love it
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No.18341
This was completely staged.
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No.18342
>his smile an optimism: gone
>>18338
Probably just mecha
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No.18343
>That fake fucking yelling about how dangerous this suddenly is
Thanks for letting me know everything about this is fake
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No.18344
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No.18345
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No.18346
That would have been more interesting had the robots been faster.
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No.18347
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No.18348
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No.18349
>>18341
>>18343
>>18344
>>18345
The announcers running was obviously fake, but the fight itself seemed real enough.
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No.18350
>>18348
I assumed you were being retarded because there was literally no reason to fucking fake anything here. I expected very little out of this, but was having fun, and then in the last 5 fucking seconds they made me regret viewing it.
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No.18351
Q&A. Let's see what this yields.
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No.18352
>>18350
Yeah I've been following this shit since the beginning and pimping out their videos.
This is probably the biggest anime betrayal of the last 15 years.
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No.18353
>and like, uh, and then like, and from like, right?
This guy doesn't know how to talk
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No.18354
I actually thought the fight was okay, for a fake fight. I kinda figured it was more of a safe shakedown fight to see what it'd actually be like before jumping into a real battle.
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No.18355
Hey /m/, /v/ here. Can you make sure your shit is actually real next time so I don't waste my time?
Thanks
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No.18356
>>18355
Nobody but the two teams involved knew this wasn't going to be anything but a fucking publicity stunt to pitch life-size Battlebots on the public.
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No.18357
Oh god, someone asked WHERES MUH PILE BUNKER?
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No.18358
>nobody is in this to murder the other pilot
Lame!
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No.18359
>>18349
Nah. The Kuratas was fast enough he could have had it circle around behind - instead he kept trying to rush a much heavier and armored mech. It was fake and gay outside of the first fight and first half of second. Everything after that is just hollywood kike bullshit. Japs should be pissed. Kuratas should have easily won both fights after the first half proved the Eagle Prime was slow as shit.
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No.18360
>Ad breaks represent an entire day of maintenance
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No.18361
>>18348
Everyone knew it was gonna be fake tbh. The amount of hollywood propaganda really showed that.
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No.18362
>>18359
One of the two American pilots is Jewish I think.
Hopefully this leads to some proper mecha battles.
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No.18363
I wonder what drawings we will get from this fight?
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No.18364
WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T THEY HAVE A WEIGHT LIMIT
WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T THEY HAVE ACTUAL MECH LEGS
WHY THE FUCK WAS THIS SO RETARDED
>>18354
I'm not sure if it was entirely fake or anything, but the announcer pretending to panic really made it so I have to assume it was. When they grabbed the lighting truss I assumed the guys were saying, "You know what would be cool?"
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No.18365
>>18362
I noticed this months ago looking at their faces and how they over-hyped small developments
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No.18366
>>18365
One of my friends from /k/ marked him wearing an Israeli flight suit in the promo videos.
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No.18367
>>18364
>WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T THEY HAVE ACTUAL MECH LEGS
Because that's the hardest and most unrealistic part of mechs
If they gave them actual footed legs it would be even worse, there'd either be no movement at all or they would shuffle around a little like retarded toddlers
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No.18368
>>18364
>WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T THEY HAVE ACTUAL MECH LEGS
Square-cube law. Bipedal legs don't work very well on a scale that large.
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No.18369
>>18359
Eagle Prime looked like it had hydraulic hoses or whatever just hanging loose all over the place. Don't think that'd do you too well in a real battle.
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No.18370
>people are spamming 'SCRIPTED' in the Twitch chat
>(((they))) installed a bot that is timing them out for 'no excessive caps' when they were just fine prior to the duel
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No.18371
>>18367
>If they gave them actual footed legs it would be even worse, there'd either be no movement at all or they would shuffle around a little like retarded toddlers
I know mechs aren't realistic. But that's the fucking cool part of the mech. I never expected this to be that good, it was going to be a realistic mech battle. By adding treads, it turned from a mech battle to two tanks with jousting rods.
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No.18372
>>18355
>>18356
Yeah, this was disappointing.
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No.18373
>>18371
>He doesn't like tread/spider bases on mechs
>He would rather have shitty legs that physically would not work
you might be gay anon
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No.18375
>>18373
Spider legs would be fine as well, but treads are gay if your tagline is "We're making science fiction a reality"
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No.18376
>and like
>and like
>and like
>and like
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No.18377
>>18373
Don't tread on him anon. He may be wrong, but he deserves a bully. not a tread.
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No.18378
>>18373
>>18375
There are already spider leg robots, but they're for cutting trees I think.
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No.18380
>Pacific Rim over Gundam
Jesus Christ
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No.18381
>>18378
Maybe so, but make them
WAR MACHINES
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No.18382
Q&A has me feeling a little better about this. A lot of stuff in the battle was improvised after all, butt yeah. I'm now convinced this wasn't fake so much as a bunch of guys trying out their big expensive toys against each other after making an agreement not to break them too much.
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No.18383
>>18380
Ah, so was this just some side promotion for the sequel?
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No.18384
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No.18385
>I wanna fight china
These madmen won't stop
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No.18386
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No.18387
>>18385
Well the Chinks do have that monkey robot thing, though only the Koreans have the real deal.
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No.18388
As fakish and gay this was, it's still a nice thing to get people interested and possibly have this as a real annual competition with multiple countries eventually. I could see these robots getting better and more innovative/functional.
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No.18389
>>18388
It actually was cool to hear just how many more groups were expressing interest in this event.
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No.18390
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No.18391
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No.18392
>>18390
Now it is the samurai the fears the jew
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No.18393
>>18390
The heavier robot.
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No.18395
>>18392
>Implying this wasn't the case for a while now
Just look at /v/.
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No.18396
>Have complex hand with individually moving fingers
>not wielding a katana with it
YOU HAD ONE JOB NIPPON
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No.18397
Also is the Board Owner around?
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No.18399
>>18396
I doubt the arm as a whole has enough dexterity to wield it as anything other than a big dumb club
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No.18400
>>18399
Pretty much, it wouldn't be wielded like a Katana so there's really no point.
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No.18401
>>18399
>>18400
You guys are right, but I feel like it would have at least evened things up because the Kurutas didn't have anything as destructive as a chainsaw. They could have tried to slice as the hydraulic tubes exposed on the MKIII.
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No.18402
>>18401
Yeah, but even so. They were trying to preserve their mechs to some degree in order to promote it as some sort of sport. also safety is another issue.
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No.18403
>>18402
More likely insurance than safety.
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No.18405
>>18399
>not using hydraulics to make that unsheating katana attack
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No.18406
>>18403
Well yeah, these things are probably expensive as hell. And for a promo they probably wanna conserve costs.
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No.18407
>>18402
True, wouldn't want a 200 pound katana to accidentally fly off and impale somebody.
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No.18408
>>18407
Yeah, as cool as it is. It's a danger for everyone including the pilot.
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No.18412
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No.18418
>>18385
Hopefully he wipes out all 1.2 billion of the red communists.
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No.18429
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No.18440
>>18429
SIEG ZEON
Also the only people who think its scripted are assblasted weebs. The announcershit was probably written afterwards, but I am inclined to believe the actual fight was real based on the number of cameras they had to use. When you record things that are only ever going to happen once, you need a ton of different perspectives to get some good cuts for production. At multiple points in the event you can see them using maybe 7 or 8 different cameras at once.
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No.18441
>>18440
>defending WWE-tier cringfest commentary
>defending USA WINS despite each country winning one round each of a 2 round duel
You're a fucking idiot. There could have been several dozen cameras and it wouldn't have made it less shit.
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No.18444
>>18441
>implying he won the second round
>implying the first round wasn't just an "everyone is a winner" appeasement fight
Kuratas fags blown the fuck out.
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No.18446
>>18444
>appeasement fight
It's like I'm really back at halfchan, holy fuck.
It was the only round that actually fell within the stipulations that both sides agreed upon when this whole thing began. USA had to build a second bot and ignore the no melee weapon rule to do the damage that "won" them the second round and, apparently, the entire duel as well.
The fact that the USA team was allowed to bring two bots, use weapons that were supposed to be off-limits and had their attempt to force open the Kuratas' cockpit with the fucking cannon arm completely ignored means there was a blatant bias towards making the USA team look good, rules be damned.
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No.18447
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-ouLX8Q9UM
didn't really see a link, I assume this is it
looks to me like whoever had the biggest heaviest punchiest mech was the winner to me
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No.18452
>>18446
Yeah, the whole thing was rather pooly executed. I have to wonder why all of this went down the way it did. If we assume their intentions were genuine in wanting to drum up interest for the concept of a giant robot fighting tournament, then why did they pick a fight with an art piece? That's really underhanded. Why also keep ranged weapons when it's meant to be a melee fight? Lots of things aren't really adding up.
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No.18455
>>18452
Kuratas is more a rich person's toy than an art piece.
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No.18457
>>18452
>Lots of things aren't really adding up.
Like how a self-taught blacksmith that makes wrought iron fences for a living has the money and knowledge necessary to make a large robot vehicle, as an art piece or otherwise?
Or how a couple of no-name engineers managed to afford big defense contractors, software companies and fucking NASA to build them a robot based on their own art piece in such a short amount of time?
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No.18458
>>18457
What they let out about Kuratas is that he just came up with the idea, he didn't build it.
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No.18459
>>18458
Patently false. The original un-upgraded model that was challenged to the duel was made by him. He got help upgrading it for the duel.
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No.18461
>>18459
I could have sworn I saw a video where he talks about getting help to make it, but I can't find it again.
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No.18464
>>18403
Gui said that the bots aren't insured for battle, they looked into it but nobody would take them. The company itself has standard corporate insurance stuff.
>>18452
>why did they pick a fight with an art piece
Because Mk2 was also an art piece at the time. It got much more attention than they expected, they were originally just going to slap some safety gear and a melee weapon onto mk2, then it was more extensive upgrades for mk2, then it was an entire new bot.
>why also keep ranged weapons
Because melee only would be boring, at least there was an excuse for them to move around in directions that weren't straight towards each other.
>>18457
>how a self-taught blacksmith that makes wrought iron fences for a living has the money and knowledge necessary to make a large robot vehicle
He was probably already rich, and blacksmithing large stuff (like fences and doors) makes you a shitload of dosh.
>how a couple of no-name engineers managed to afford big defense contractors, software companies and fucking NASA to build them a robot
Ez. Look at Linkedin. Gui worked at fucking Boston Dynamics for 4 years, founded a makerspace, led a project to make a spiderbot at said makerspace, got a job at a company that does robot fabrication and consultation, THEN founded megabots. Matt has a similar background. They were already doing robots, then met the CEO of Autodesk at some event, told him about their projects, hit it off, and got a sponsorship. That drove production of the Mk1 and Mk2, then the duel and kickstarter got them a shitload of investors. They turned over even more money by shipping Mk2 around the world for paid events, while at the same time using that same money and their investment money to kick in full-fledged production of Eagle Prime, steal the film crew from Mythbusters, buy literal state-of-the art hydraulics equipment, etc.
Their endgame isn't to make a bunch of robots, though. It's to make a sports league. They've said it outright many times. They're using their robot to start this process, but they'll end up doing logistics, organization, rules, etc. for giant robot fighting as a sport. Nobody else in the world has experience in shipping massive battle robots across the ocean, and they can lend that expertise to other teams who want to show off their own engineering. On top of that, they'll make bank from advertising and merch sales. Companies like Autodesk get to advertise by slapping on branding the same way that racecars do. Any and all advertisers will reach an audience normally averse to sports and sport styles of marketing. And money from advertisers and sponsors can flow right back into making even more robots (you have to keep in mind here, these things still cost far less than an F1 car).
Here's a good video of Gui pitching the entire thing to a bunch of west coast investors at some startup event: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-g85lOSA8Y
Let's face it, as staged as it was, you'd probably watch the next one. And the one after that. I will. I'll turn off my adblocker for it. I might even buy a patch or a sticker, and fantasize about building and piloting robots with my friends (I'm wondering where the old props from Gunhed ended up). Enough people do that, and you have a business model.
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No.18466
>>18464
>Gui worked at fucking Boston Dynamics for 4 years
Wasn't he just contracted? I didn't know he was a full-time employee.
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No.18467
>>18464
>Let's face it, as staged as it was, you'd probably watch the next one.
No doubt about that. But what made the staging really terrible is the fact that the robots clearly fought, and I'm sure the end result actually happened, but the stage play narrative of it ruined the whole experience. I expected the fights to be visually boring, because the machines are slow as ass, and I wasn't expecting sparks and explosions, but the first fight was clearly not scripted, and that was actually the most exciting part of it. Once you had the announcers "run" however, if makes you question if any of it actually happened at all. I'm sure some of it was real, but now you have to trash the whole memory of it because they've now made it worthless.
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No.18468
>>18467
I really wish they chose a different production company. The one they went with was absolutely terrible.
>OH KURATAS GOING IN WITH A MASSIVE BLOW
>BUT EAGLE PRIME ISN'T GIVING UP THAT EASILY
It's not a WWE match.
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No.18469
please tell me there's kuratas fan art. it's my tractorfu
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No.18470
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No.18471
>Japanese mecha fan
>Pilots a red robot for the first ever robot fist fight
>Doesn't cosplay as Char for the fight
Is he some kind of retard?
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No.18472
>>18471
He said it was based more on VOTOMS than Gundam.
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No.18473
>>18472
Either way, he had a huge opportunity to cosplay as someone important to him.
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No.18474
>>18466
>Robotics engineer with a focus on mechanical design and engineering on BigDog, LS3, RiSE, PETMAN, and other hydraulic and electric robots. Systems integrator for the LS3 project, a 1,200 pound robotic mule. Responsible for the mechanical design and systems integration of high-performance, autonomous legged robots (ranging in size from 5 pounds to 1,200 pounds) using advanced design techniques, materials selection and manufacturing techniques.
Doesn't sound like it.
>>18467
Yeah. As far as I'm concerned, the wrestling-style commentary doesn't work.
If we're going to have post-fight films, I want not-Duncan-Fisher narrating it and CGI cutaways showing the system damage dealt by major blows. I want pilot cams showing their faces in the corner of the screen. I want sparks and flying pieces of metal captured in flawless slowmo. I want shots of spilled hydraulic fluid looking like blood on the floor after the battle, and shaky zoomed-in footage of the pilots talking to their teams.
The scripting that I'm ok with is stuff like when they grabbed the light rig and spun it. It was as funny as it was fun to watch - solidly tongue-in-cheek while still showing the bot's capabilities, although I wish they had clobbered Kuratas with it.
For live combat, I'd be fine with a standard announcer as long as they don't play it up too much.
Still, despite it all, my imagination is running wild. I keep thinking about the possibility of getting friends together, hitting up some junkyards, and throwing together my own crude mech. The one thing I want to do most before I die is fight as a mecha pilot.
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No.18476
This could be good, but it really needs standardization. The armor material needs to be the same for both bots, and the weapons need to be set at a certain "power level" to avoid pilot deaths. If both teams are using similar thick ABS armor and some type of kinetic weapons that could blow chunks off of each other without risking gibbing the pilot, then this could really be feasible.
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No.18479
>>18476
The fact alone that Kuratas went in a fight against a robot weighing 6 fucking tons more was bullshit, weapon or whatever be damned.
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No.18480
>>18479
To be fair, Megabots was quick to point out that weight classes are needed to make this thing legit, and they are definitely right. I am more talking about how we can actually achieve a good amount of visible damage on these robots without putting the pilots at an unrealistic amount of risk. I think that armor panels made out of a breakable material like ABS plastic would be a good way to go, as the force required to shatter them could be safely achieved.
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No.18481
>>18480
If you're okay with making them remote controlled then you could add all sorts of crazy shit, like actual guns.
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No.18482
>>18481
Yeah, but I feel like that may take away from the mystique, and make it to similar to Battlebots (nothing against Battlebots).
I think that there needs to be a balance struck between Mech damage and safety, and that if it is visibly appealing enough, then Mech Combat could be pretty popular to watch. As it stands, we already have multiple teams interested in competing and we don't have any real rules yet.
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No.18483
>>18482
*too similar. God dammit.
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No.18484
>>18340
>don't mock the punch-tractor, it's adorable and i love it
>>18378
>There are already spider leg robots, but they're for cutting trees I think.
>>18381
>Maybe so, but make them
>WAR MACHINES
Indeed, this is why we need someone like Deere or CAT in on this, they have the Spider Leg machines already, and could probably produce pretty impressive grapplers if incited properly.
>>18364
>I'm not sure if it was entirely fake or anything, but the announcer pretending to panic really made it so I have to assume it was. When they grabbed the lighting truss I assumed the guys were saying, "You know what would be cool?"
I kinda assume it was a bit of both; The Light truss stunt looked a little staged (Why have an easily destroyed set of lights on the floor where the robots could break them?), but actually trying to deflect paintballs by spinning the truss and the pointless drone were so lame they had to have been ad-havok.
I'd guess of the six minutes of ACTUAL ROBOT FIGHTING footage we got was paired down from about an hours worth of fucking around with the bots, allowing them to get a rough choreography of a fight down.
>>18368
>Square-cube law. Bipedal legs don't work very well on a scale that large.
Actually it's not the Square-Cube law that fucks bipeds up at Megabots/VOTOMs scale, it's the active balance control.
Just standing on two points of contact is actually a pretty complex task, while moving is basically a controlled topple in one direction that can easily land you flat on your back, face, or side with a single misstep.
This is actually why most bipeds robots right now do this:
>>18367
>shuffle around a little like retarded toddlers
Because they simply aren't capable of staying in that tiny sweet spot between NEARLY falling and actually falling over.
>>18382
>so much as a bunch of guys trying out their big expensive toys against each other after making an agreement not to break them too much.
Well yeah, they're expensive toys that are custom machined/a modified special production run, if shit breaks there's no corner giant robot store to run over to pick up a replacement part from.
At best they'll get to the point of Monster Trucks; Having a small Micro-industry built off
an existing commercial manufacturing one that caters to those who want to own one of these expensive toys.
>>18388
> it's still a nice thing to get people interested and possibly have this as a real annual competition with multiple countries eventually. I could see these robots getting better and more innovative/functional.
Exactly, I personally want to get the local heavy machine manufacturers in on this, because nothing fuels a machine-sport industry more that using it as a brand dick-waving contest.
Ford, GM, International, Deere… These are all companies big enough to have the resources to throw at this sort of shit, and if NASCAR is any indication, they can innovate it enough to make the spectacle half way safe to actually participate in.
>>18464
>Their endgame isn't to make a bunch of robots, though. It's to make a sports league. They've said it outright many times. They're using their robot to start this process, but they'll end up doing logistics, organization, rules, etc. for giant robot fighting as a sport. Nobody else in the world has experience in shipping massive battle robots across the ocean, and they can lend that expertise to other teams who want to show off their own engineering. On top of that, they'll make bank from advertising and merch sales. Companies like Autodesk get to advertise by slapping on branding the same way that racecars do. Any and all advertisers will reach an audience normally averse to sports and sport styles of marketing. And money from advertisers and sponsors can flow right back into making even more robots (you have to keep in mind here, these things still cost far less than an F1 car).
True, and I don't fault them for wanting to create Robot Fighting NASCAR, but they really need to start reaching out to industrial machine manufacturers so a proper brand dick-waving contest can help fuel that, otherwise you're just going to have a bunch of one-time art-student start-ups trying and failing to scratch build Fighting Robots without any supporting infrastructure.
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No.18485
>>18484
>Cont.
>>18467
>the stage play narrative of it ruined the whole experience
>>18474
>As far as I'm concerned, the wrestling-style commentary doesn't work.
Indeed, but to be a proper machine-sport, there has to be an industrial push to get there.
>>18476
>This could be good, but it really needs standardization. The armor material needs to be the same for both bots, and the weapons need to be set at a certain "power level" to avoid pilot deaths. If both teams are using similar thick ABS armor and some type of kinetic weapons that could blow chunks off of each other without risking gibbing the pilot, then this could really be feasible.
>>18482
>I think that there needs to be a balance struck between Mech damage and safety, and that if it is visibly appealing enough, then Mech Combat could be pretty popular to watch.
Well yes and no…
One of the reason I feel they need the support of the Industrial Machine manufacturing industry is they would both standardize common components (REALLY fucking important to have readily available replacement parts for shit you can't jerry-rig on the spot) and tap into their valuable pool of knowledge on Operator Safety (Robot slug-fest would be a lot more do-able with NASCAR level driver safety set-ups preventing the pilots from scrambling each others brains and spines).
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No.18486
>>18485
I think a slugfest aspect would be really neat, but there needs to be more impact to punches. Actuators alone don't seem to be very capable of delivering a knockout blow right now. A Big O or Scopedog piston punch would be fantastic. Some sort of piston in the wrist or arm that expands with a pneumatic or explosive charge would really help deliver some force. As far as ranged weapons go, it's really hard to establish something that would be capable of damaging a robot on direct hits, but not turning the pilot into salsa on a cockpit hit.
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No.18487
>>18486
>I think a slugfest aspect would be really neat, but there needs to be more impact to punches.
Actually they're plenty of impact force.
It's what makes a slug-fest so dangerous in the first place; Eagle Prime couldn't actually "Punch" Kuratas because that would concuss the pilot too hard, turning Kogoro brain to jelly with just the INSIDE of his own scull.
>As far as ranged weapons go, it's really hard to establish something that would be capable of damaging a robot on direct hits, but not turning the pilot into salsa on a cockpit hit.
I think the Kuratas team had the better ideas here with their Drone and Paintball gun; You have to be more esoteric with your Range Weapons, using them to blind, entangle, or otherwise inconvenience your opponent before closing into Melee.
Anything powerful enough to do damage from impact alone is going to be super dangerous for the pilots to begin with, and WAY too dangerous for any spectators to safely watch a match in person.
And if you can't use anything that makes the match too dangerous to watch from a grandstand, you run into the same problem Battlebots did where only the boring and practical safe stuff wins.
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No.18492
>>18487
I think the paintball cannons were an idea leftover from their original testing when they tried them out. They used the cannons on their original mech concept, and it literally would have instantly killed whoever was in the cockpit, and even tore up some of the metal. I'm betting that they were too impressed with that and just kind of forgot to reconsider how much it would actually do against a real armor plate.
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No.18493
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>>18492
>I think the paintball cannons were an idea leftover from their original testing when they tried them out. They used the cannons on their original mech concept, and it literally would have instantly killed whoever was in the cockpit, and even tore up some of the metal. I'm betting that they were too impressed with that and just kind of forgot to reconsider how much it would actually do against a real armor plate.
Yeah, it's clearly a vestige of when Mega Bots was going to be a soft-contact paintball sport; A big air cannon that looks impressive but doesn't really do shit.
Kuratas instead used it's Air Submachine gun like the head vulcans on a mobile suit; A small caliber, rapid-fire weapon for either taking advantage of openings or trying to create them.
Also, here's a little breakdown vid I found on the fight!
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No.18494
>>18452
>why did they pick a fight with an art piece?
Because Kurata wanted it that way. He said he wanted "survival games" and "hand-to-hand combat" for his robot long before the gauntlets were tossed. Face it, he's a mech nerd who made it real. He saw the cartoon, then he wondered how it would look, so he built a VOTOMS statue. Then he wondered how it would be to ride it, so he made Kuratas. Then with the megabots he got the chance to feel what it would be like to battle with it, staged or not. It may seem lame as fuck from the outside but can you imagine the adrenaline rush and feeling of absolute ecstasy he would have had in that first round, steaming ahead at 18 mph to slam into a 5-ton robot and punch it over? Rewatch the video from 9:40, he looks like a kid in a candy store. i can only imagine how gratifying it must have been to turn your dreams into tangible reality like that.
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No.18496
>>18494
I agree, my respect goes to the kuratas team who wanted to make their anime dream real, whereas the megabots hucksters just wanted to start a cash-cow clone of battlebots.
Anyway, the mecha age IS coming, it's just still in it's embryonic stage. In 20-30 years development, Patlabor will be reality
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No.18502
>>18496
Mechs will never be as fast as they are in games and shows, though. They simply can't be due to their weight.
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No.18508
>>18484
>and if NASCAR is any indication, they can innovate it enough to make the spectacle half way safe to actually participate in.
Once again the underaged cuckchanner faggot makes a post that is utterly retarded.
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No.18511
>>18502
We'll see, if we get some quadrupedal types with some 'skating' functionality we might see things going 50+mph.
Would certainly have to be built around hovercraft principals and braking would be a bitch, but I could imagine it happening, though it'll never be as smooth as a Rick Dom
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No.18512
>>18511
The main problem with a skating robot is that it would only be able to go on a completely smooth surface.
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No.18520
>>18511
I was thinking it would be better to build down from a helicopter than build up from a tank. Something like a V-22 Osprey with it's VTOL, but more humanoid. You could probably build something fast, bipedal, and 30 feet tall as long as it's weight is largely carried by rotors and the body is made of aircraft grade material. And it could have fairly heavy armor and armaments, comparable to an A-10.
Alternatively, battery tech in the future could make something ground based, like Labors. The science doesn't matter at the end of the day. If we can meme it, we can make it
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No.18530
Hey, hope this is okay, but I archived this thread in case it gets bumped off into oblivion someday.
http://archive.is/3GbWN
It was fun hanging around with you guys, and I look forwards to the next shit-show we get to watch together. Take it easy /m/.
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No.18532
>>18530
It'll take a long time for a thread to fall off the catalog on this board, easily over a year.
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No.18536
>>18532
yeah, I know dude, that's why I said "someday" instead of soon. Just wanted to make sure it didn't sink off without anyone noticing or archiving.
Hell, we still have the old launch theme thread going even though no one has posted in it for over a year. Kinda sad, but at least we die hard… or slow. Hopefully a tolerable newfag or two might post something and decide to stay
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No.18537
>>18536
Well, the board's been picking up in speed for a few weeks now, so I don't think we'll be dying anytime soon.
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No.18578
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Megabots uploads a live-ish video off them messing around with the drill on targets that don't have a squishy person in them. They're also announcing a series of live twitch streams where they do things with the Megabot live.
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No.18579
>>18578
>They're also announcing a series of live twitch streams where they do things with the Megabot live.
Hopefully interesting things.
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No.18631
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The megabbots team has a meeting discussing an upcoming event where a piloted Mk III is going to be fighting the remote-controlled MK II Live on November 5th.
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No.18641
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The megabots team plays with knives.
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No.18644
>>18641
So they're going to do an actual live fight with their old robot?
At least it's something. I can't imagine how awkward it'll look to see the robot using a knife in a fight, though.
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No.18691
>>18631
It's on today.
Let's see if they screw anything up.
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No.18704
>>18493
They totally blew it. Kuratas knocked Eagle Prime onto its ass in the first round.
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No.18708
I didn't watch the Kuratas/Prime duel but I heard it was scripted as hell.
Only way they could make it work is by having either remote control or some mandatory tough as fuck rollcage.
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No.18713
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For those that missed the previous stream of the manned MK III vs the unmanned MKII, here you go.
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No.18714
>>18713
Much better than the first one, though they really need to amp up the speed and get a 'real' opponent for Prime.
Thread's over 500 posts, might be time to start a new one, especially for the coming livestreams.
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No.18715
>>18714
We still have around 250 posts to go.
We don't have a bump limit so threads get bumped until they hit 750.
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No.18808
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Yet another kickstarter
This time for the actual fighting league
Hopefully the low energy fight didn't turn people off too much to keep the naive idiots from donating
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No.18809
>>18808
Also this art is cool
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No.18810
>>18809
they should just make pictures like this
it's a damnsight better than those shitshow fights they put on
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No.18811
>>18808
OY VEY GIVE US MORE MONEY
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No.18812
>>18809
Seeing the Method 2 in the video does give me a little hope, even if it is pretty rigid at this stage.
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No.18813
>>18810
>>18812
Well, arm articulation isn't that hard comparatively, and the pictures they made all feature the ranged weapons mounted on the shoulders, so there's hope for the close range combat even if physical movement will forever be retarded
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No.18819
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Here's their apparent secret weapon to making their retardedly expensive mech fighting league that nobody will want to watch a reality
A single UFC promoter
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No.18820
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No.18833
>>18819
>>18820
To be fair, the guy isn't just a promoter but a founder of UFC, and they really do need standardization in order to get more competitors on-board.
Still, they should be going to heavy industrial machinery manufactures with this instead of Kickstarter…
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No.18848
>>18808
Unfortunately, it did.
The kickstarter just got cancelled. They know that kickstarters get their biggest spikes at the beginning and end of the campaign, and they only pulled $54k. They're going to look for alternative sources of funding - god only knows what that means, I'm willing to bet that they've exhausted the Palo Alto VC scene, and they've already got a bunch of corporate sponsorships.
I was going to toss them $20, but couldn't this week because Paladin Press announced that they're closing so I snagged a good $100 worth of books that have probably landed me on a couple watchlists.
It sucks, because I was really hoping they'd pull together the funds to R&D something much faster, even if it ends up smaller. This entire time, I've still fantasized getting a few of my more mechanically minded friends together and building some scrapheap shitbot from junkyard pieces and old hydraulics. If Kuratas can commercially sell parts kits for about $1m USD, a couple of autists and engineers should be able to throw something together from a junkyard on a shoestring budget.
I just don't want the dream to die.
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No.18868
>>18809
flyingdebris again. does OC, batletech, some game concept art, like the mechs in FEAR 3.
>>18848
if you think this little flim flam kike sham is the beginning and end of mech fighting you're mistaken. let it die and move on to better.
make a hobby of it, with your buddies. the schubs at megabots almost made something work. even thought they're clueless soyboys LARPing as engineers and metalworkers. just aim small, the smaller you build it the more functional and easier it will be, the Kuritas Mk1 is a perfect size. both Megabots were too big, too heavy, and under-designed. for fucks sake they powered it with a Chevy crate motor.
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No.19122
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Megabots begins design of a newer, better, faster arm, citing that speed and responsiveness are of greater importance than raw power.
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No.19374
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Oh, who could have possibly seen this coming
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No.19375
>>19374
Why did they ever think all the overly edited videos shot on expensive cameras was ever a good idea? How did they not realize they were wasting too much time and money on something that wasn't a giant fighting robot? Why did they build shit they knew wouldn't work when they would just have to build a new one that does work? Why did they not have someone in charge of the money to tell them to stop being retarded?
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No.19392
>>19375
None of it was ever going to work, the only way to get any funding and to have any part of this work in real life was to make it look good and get people excited- and then when the actual fighting happens, fake the shit out of it like wrestling, it doesn't matter as long as people can suspend their disbelief, but it's so unworkable that they couldn't even accomplish that
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No.19393
>>19392
iirc the one Chris Jericho hosted seemed to be worked and it was pretty dismal too
maybe there's some chicanery to get smaller robots over, like maybe aim for 5' or so with really light metal frames, shoot it in a set designed to make it look big, and get Rey Mysterio jr to host it and let him stand next to them so they look gigantic.
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No.19406
>>19392
You're probably right, but it's still annoying since it feels like they went out of their way to use their money in the dumbest way possible.
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No.19409
>>19374
These idiots got several times their desired funding, it's their own fault they spent it all.
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