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No.7305
I rarely see Gunbuster/Diebuster discussed anywhere, so I'm gonna give it a try here. How do you guys feel about this precursor to TTGL?
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No.7309
It's shit, like TTGL and every other Gainax anime
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No.7310
>>7309and you people wonder why this board is deadNo bully pls
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No.7311
Gunbuster is great. Diebuster is shit.
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No.7312
It's fantastic (and so is TTGL for that matter).
Sadly it didn't have quite enough "umpf", like FLCL, but it was definitely up there.
Ironically, though, although that may be lipservice to the original, the main characters development is the weak point of the series.
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No.7319
>>7310/m/ is some of the few bastions on interwebs where you get people to like/shit on classic mecha works which majority of the so called "anime" fandom dosen't even care about.
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No.7320
That's fair and all, but just saying it's shit is merely a worthless opinion. Name your favorite animu and I'll call it shit, does that mean anything other than me being an asshole?
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No.7324
>>7319>some of the few bastions on interwebsWhat are the other bastions? I'm interested where else can I go to argue about some obscure anime.
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No.7326
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i haven't watched diebuster yet, although i've seen the izuna double kick scene and that might be all i need,
but i love gunbuster, i only wish i had got to see more of the aliens or maybe it was like one episode longer so smithisusus death had weight to it
norikos theme greatest theme ever
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No.7328
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>>7312>not enough "umpf"Anon. Please.
I agree, though, Gunbuster and TTGL are both fucking fantastic. I haven't actually seen Diebuster yet, but it's on my "To Watch" list.
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No.7337
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>>7328If you liked Gunbuster and TTGL I
heartily recommend Diebuster. In fact: why are you reading this? Go watch it you dink. It's only like 3 hours long so there is no excuse.
(Also, for all the fantasticism and awe, Diebuster still didn't have the punch that some of its predecessors had.)
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No.7346
I god damn love Gunbuster. I'd go so far as to say it's my favourite anime.
Diebuster not so much, but it was still entertaining.
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No.7350
One thing unites all people who have watched Diebuster; Nono is love.
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No.7351
Gunbuster is definitely in my top 10.
Questions though, why is ep6 not in color until the end? At one time I thought it was to enunciate the hopelessness that their fight was supposed to encompass, but I'm not sure anymore.
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No.7352
>>7351It was a stylistic choice through and through to add more emphasize the very end.. And no, BW animation is not cheaper than full on colour animation.
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No.7356
>>7351Because Anno wanted to. They actually blew the budget on that episode because of it.
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No.7362
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No.7457
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No.7633
>>7351
From an interview:
"On the decision to have the final episode of Gunbuster in black-and-white…
ANNO: When you have color, you have an extra dimension of information. Color would have gotten in the way of the sense of scale we wanted to portray with the black hole bomb. Also – no one had ever done it before."
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No.7649
Diebusters whole gimmick was the shamalan TWEEEST at ep 4. It was also way too crowded and messy with these shitty ass characters nobody cared about.
The Tycho episode was horrible.
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No.7662
Gunbuster is fantastic, I kind of wish that it had been longer so that I could have seen more of the namesake mecha in action, but that might have spoiled its pacing somewhat. Gunbuster itself might be my favourite mecha design ever overall.
Diebuster I watched immediately after finishing Gunbuster, and I felt a little let down by it. Even though there are close similarities between Gunbuster's and Diebuster's plotlines, they otherwise feel really different. Like, Gunbuster at least makes an attempt at a semi-grounded / authentic look and feel (at least in the first few episodes) whereas Diebuster has a deliberately overblown aesthetic with outlandish-looking technology and zany character designs and talking cats. I'm also not a fan of most of the spaceship / mecha designs at all.
That said, this is mostly me judging it as a follow-up to Gunbuster and not on its own merits, which is probably a mistake because the two were released really far apart. Besides, it has plenty of positives as well. Nono was annoying to me at first but grew on me a lot by the time the end came about. Some of the action was really good too, especially in the final episodes. I feel like it's much more like TTGL than Gunbuster is. While I didn't like it so much in the context of a Gunbuster follow-up, I bet that it's a lot better if you watch it separately from Gunbuster.
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No.7668
I made the mistake of going into Diebuster looking for More Gunbuster, so I didn't like it. It's okay I guess, but I was really looking for More Gunbuster, not More FLCL Guest Starring Gunbuster.
If it had been Another Thing Like FLCL and then the big swerve was that it was a Gunbuster sequel all along I probably would have liked it a lot more.
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No.7669
>>7649
>>7668
I was fortunate to watch Diebuster long after Gunbuster and it definitely helped. Diebuster is enjoyable on it's own but it's just so radically different from the first show that it just doesn't feel like a sequel, and the original is still the best.
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No.7670
>>7669
mid90s for GB to when Die came out didn't help
like I said, I went in looking specifically for more of the first thing. So it's like going from OT to Prequels instead of OT to Episode 7
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No.7673
>>7305
This is subtle bait compared to the gunbuster than on halfchan /m/ at the moment.
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No.7959
>>7662
Well, Diebuster is set near the return of Noriko to Earth, thus extremely different designs. Shit's way far in the future.
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No.8037
Did Gunbuster really take inspiration from Top Gun? It's such a shitty movie.
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No.8042
>>8037
Yup, and what's wrong with that? Crappy stories can be good inspiration for making something better.
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No.8048
>>8042
Nothing wrong with that, but I think it's weird that someone like Anno would like Top Gun.
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No.8985
Does anybody know where I can get the OST for original Gunbuster? I could only find the Diebuster soundtrack.
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No.8998
I watched Die right after Gun and I was extremely let down. I found most characters annoying and boring. The mechs, aside from the omellete au fromage or whatever name the main mech had, also kind of let me down.
I rewatched it some time ago, and my opinion is slightly changed. It honestly doesn't get to levels of good the original was, but it has its own merits.
Most of the characters are still shit, though.
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No.9000
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>>8037
>>8042
>>8048
>not liking the most homoerotic movie of the 80's
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No.9014
>>8048
Anno didn't write Gunbuster. Otaking and Yagama did, then Anno did some editing
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No.10282
>>7324
4chan /m/ and mechatalk seem to be the only other options. It's sad that the entire genre of mecha probably has less online presence than a single shit show like Attack on Titan or Tokyo Ghoul.
And then you have fucks like this
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1368250&show=0
who trash mecha and sour prospective viewer's opinions on it. I can't tell you how many people have shitty opinions because they only know TTGL, CG, Seed, and Aldnoah.
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No.10283
>>10282
Sweet Jesus.
>I have only watched Code Geass, but I can say mecha sucks
>talking shit about mecha in general by going "row row fight the powah"
>talking shit about Gurren Lagann
>talking shit about UC gundam when they just watched Unicorn without watching anything else
My jimmies are rustled as fuck.
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No.10284
>>10282
I think this guy might just be a troll. His avatar is literally tipping a fedora.
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No.10285
>>10282
I don't understand, it just looks like your standard /m/-related troll thread.
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No.10287
>>10282
>look at cifaretto's ratings
Fucking terrible taste, holy shit.
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No.10797
Gunbuster is my favorite anime, though maybe beaten by Wings of Honneamise or Akira. I'm biased as fuck, though.
Diebuster was decent, but the pacing was a little erratic, and there was a tad too much going on for the short runtime. Still a pretty solid little spinoff.
TTGL got me into anime. Pretty cool send-up to the classics, and an adrenaline rush in its own right.
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No.10810
>>10282
>People love it because it's a power fantasy that doesn't rely on the character actually possessing physical strength.
>Yeah I don't like mecha at all. I don't like just seeing a bunch of robots fight all the time. The only mecha I have ever watched that were good was guilty crown, code geass, and aldnoah zero.
>No I can't really bring myself to like Mech anime. I rather have a MC who is strong by himself and does not depend on a machine some scientist/engineer build.
>It probably appeals to people who are into those….weird shit.
>Worst kind of Mecha anime is when my ecchi/romantic comedy gets invaded by robots.
>The best and only good Mecha is NGE, and it's main focus is not even to be one.
i thought these kinds of people were just some boogeyman created by gundam and patlabor fans with a victimization complex
jesus fucking christ
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No.10811
>>10810
>The only arguments against Lupadim's point in this thread are founded in ad hominem, hilarious.
>Mecha fans will go back to their low brow schlock and continue to live in the past. There is no sense in showing them that the present has better things in store for those with the awareness and good sense to look at the bigger picture because you can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think.
>There's nothing to fall for, people are just failing to defend any positive stance they have on mecha. Even those who have tried to defend it neglect the state of it in the 21st century, mentioning only pre-millennium artifacts that everyone has already known about.
>No he doesn't, he's seen enough to know the broad appeal of the genre is weak.
Listing the appeal of specific mecha shows like Gasaraki or Ideon is irrelevant considering there are near thousands of other mecha shows that do not have that appeal, thus it is not the appeal of mecha but the appeal of a show you like.
This fucking guy
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No.13593
To be fair I did not really enjoy Gunbuster too much, yeah the characterization was good, and the plot was written well, but there just wasn't enough actual mecha in it for me to really enjoy it. Like shit, you have one of the best designed mecha I've ever seen and you see it only a few times.
And I really fucking hated the fact that the fight in the final episode was done by still images.
I see why it's good, it just didn't hit the right spot with me.
I haven't watched Diebuster yet
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No.13601
>>10282
MAL is the most normie animu site ever to grace the internet.
No wonder it is plagued by pretentious MAL elitists and trolls who vote up their favorite anime to top in hope to earn some noble price
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No.13716
Gunbuster is possibly my favorite anime. Either that or second place to Wings of Honneamise.
Diebuster is pretty mediocre and a bit of a mess at times, but it really has its moments.
Also, TTGL isn't so much a successor to Gunbuster as it is Getter Robo and Captain Harlock thrown in a blender.
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No.13743
>>10282
>>13601 already made that point for me: MAL is pretty cancerous and sadly a common carrier for Animu dick measuring . Every decent /a/ either forbids linking your MAL or it is frowned upon for a reason. The very first tidbit I got when I started to make my MAL is avoid the discussions like a fucking plague. Another problem is vote inflation, because people give 8s to their favorites and save 10 for the perfect animu; Something that doesn't fucking exist. Neither Ghibli nor Mushi nor Sunrise nor TOEI or any other studio could put put something perfect. Like in all movies and TV series, corners will be cut in anime.
>>13716
I can't take Gunbuster that serious, because it is a parody of sports anime in general and by the same people who brought the world Otaku no Video. When it comes to production quality though, no OVA I know of can beat that. Gunbuster is the best one in hat department.
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