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Since the old thread has reached bumplimit a while ago, and people have stopped posting on topic I decided to make a new one in light of the new changes to /fur/ by Bell the BO.
This thread is for discussion and constructive criticism of board policies and management as well as meta questions that aren't addressed by either 8kun FAQ or Board Rules.
No political derailments or whining; make a separate /fur/-political discussion thread for that.
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Board Rules/Advice >>113084
Relaunch progress >>116518
Old Meta thread >>112701
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No.117471
>>117469
>Modern nazis always become silent if people vocally oppose them because many of them are insecure individuals who use it as a tough guy persona. You have to be intimidating to them so that they would behave properly. If you're polite with them, then they will attack you repeatedly because they like attacking with easy targets who won't retaliate.
what??? In what fantasy world are you leaving in you absolute schizophrenic? There's no nazis attacking the board and why are you talking about them as if they were fucking pokemons????
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No.117474
>>117470
>By all means, tell them to fuck off, that's fine, but a potential user coming to the board, seeing censored language, and then leaving forever is something we really do not want.
Does the board really want users who leave forever just because a few slurs were spoilered? They're doing the community a huge favor if they permanently leave. If the word is no huge deal as you claim, then you can easily get by with phrasing yourself differently.
Think hardly about the type of people who care about that specific type of prohibited vocabulary. Leftists don't care at all. Libertarians might object to censors, but they ultimately won't leave permanently over spoilered text. Other groups try their hardest not to be associated with racism/discrimination as it would alienate them from having friends.
It's only Nazis that feel that it's very important to degrade others with that type of language. It's not like if they're the cream of the crop either, they're anti social individuals who have nothing redeemable inside of them.
>>117471
Considering that you claim that they're not here now, it seems that the measures are effective in scaring them away. :^)
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No.117475
I kind of don't get what your goal is here. Do a major political term, freak out about 'Nazis' that don't exist, try to suppress nsfw on what was a fairly nsfw board, and now censoring words. Who is left for you to police? This place is dead, this website is dead, what are you holding onto for enforce. You're being snarky with like to the last 10 people left here when it's not necessary. I can't help but feel like the people agreeing with the BO and volunteers are the same BO and volunteers removing their trip code and posing as fake supporters. It's bizarre to me.
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No.117476
>>117475
>"This board is dead, muh censorship, and you're mean!"
It's pretty embarrassing how you've rephrased that debunked talking point several times in this thread despite the board being alive. Very CCP-like that you can highlight text or click "expand all images".
What astounding is how you complain that people are mean. For saying what? That they don't miss anti-social self-hating losers who can't do anything besides using slurs frequently in places that clearly don't belong in a board about talking animals?
You think that they're being being NICE to minorities whenever they regard them in slurs? If they're rudely addressing them that way, then it's fair for others to make them feel unwelcome too. If they permanently leave over having their slurs spoilered, it's great since the trash filters itself.
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No.117478
>>117474
>>117476
Unless you are trying to attract lunatics such as yourself, yes, you are scaring perfectly normal people with common sense away from our board. I'm not a fucking nazi, quite the opposite, but a board censoring words they don't like on an imageboard is definitely a big red flag >>117470
>>117466 I agree a lot with these posts.
Not even minecraft servers hide words like you do. Not even furaffinity. It's ok to ban or kick out people like >>117477
but censoring specific words like that is just stupid, you are driving away genuinely good posters
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No.117479
>>117477
>unfortunately it will only be because of Nazis.
Quality over quantity. Believe it or not, everyone can live without self-hating failures who can only contribute cringe material and "IS FURRAY DUHGENERATE/GAY/CRINGE?" template threads.
You think you're smart and spehsul for plagiarizing old /pol/ memes in mspaint, but you're actually a dumb, lame, and annoying version of right-wing ecelebs that you try so hard to copy in order to look cool online.
>>117478
>I'm not a fucking nazi
Never accused you of that. Please learn to read. Just stated that Nazis don't belong here.
>but censoring specific words like that is just stupid, you are driving away genuinely good posters
There are no "good posters" that use frequently slurs. Good riddance if they leave.
>Not even minecraft servers hide words like you do. Not even furaffinity.
You're right! They don't hide it, they just ban them without any question. Which is more harsh than seeing spoilered text online.
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No.117480
>>117479
Well I guess I'm not a good poster then>>117479
>Never accused you of that. Please learn to read. Just stated that Nazis don't belong here.
I was referring to the fact that these rules drive me away from this board, if you can believe I'm a "good" poster. I drew Bell art at the time and posted a lot, I was strangely patriotic of our board. I think I can be considered a good poster.
>>117479
>There are no "good posters" that use frequently slurs. Good riddance if they leave.
I sometimes say fag, I think it can be funny, maybe I'm a bad poster for you. I don't like some other words, but I wouldn't dare to impose a ban of my own list of words I don't like because I think posters that use them are all nazis, it's ridiculous.
>You're right! They don't hide it, they just ban them without any question. Which is more harsh than seeing spoilered text online.
If the content of the post violate rule 5 : Don't promote hateful language or politics.
then yes, absolutely, I agree there should be some form of sanction. KEY WORD : content of the post, with context.
But please, please just remove that word censoring feature, there's clearly many people here that are against it. It's very late here and I'm sleepy, I hope I make sense, good night.
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No.117481
>>117480
The problem is that you include yourself even though you're not the type of person that I'm referring too. I'm talking about the extreme cases that use it frequently and antagonize others.
What normal non-discriminatory people do is adapt instead of outright leaving. Mainly because stating slurs isn't their main personality.
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No.117482
>>117476
>You think that they're being being NICE to minorities whenever they regard them in slurs?
Where the hell did this even come from?
>>117479
>but you're actually a dumb, lame, and annoying version of right-wing ecelebs that you try so hard to copy in order to look cool online
Why do you keep insulting him because he thinks it's dumb to put a black box over words?
>There are no "good posters" that use frequently slurs.
That's a hell of an assumption.
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No.117483
>>117482
>Where the hell did this even come from?
I'm not going to throw stones at that particular user since he's a good guy, but it's relating to conduct. If being nice was the goal of community, then it shouldn't foster people who want to disparage others. I get that there are some who use it without any malicious intent, but there's also some that do.
By prohibiting those words, you make the malevolent types feel unwelcome while the chill people switch their language.
>Why do you keep insulting him because he thinks it's dumb to put a black box over words?
I get that it's late at night, but did you even look at the deleted post I've responded to? That particular user didn't say what you've said at all. The deleted post was provocative and had nazi memes.
>That's a hell of an assumption.
It's not unforgivable if you said it previously, but you can live without saying them. No one is holding a gun to your head and telling you to type them or anything. You're not using any of them right now.
I don't see any big deal.
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No.117484
>>117483
I think you specifically are missing the point a little bit. The argument that the hard censoring of words will drive away good posters does not at all hinge on the actual words being censored.
The argument would be the same if the filtered words were things like 'ice cream' or 'jump rope'. Whether or not you can use the words in question during a conversation is irrelevant because the problem is that hard filtered words looks like the BO is working too hard. In driving away 'nazis' we will also accidentally drive away people that just don't like over eager moderation.
Make a rule about it, kick them out, delete their threads; there are numerous other, more palatable, actions that could be taken instead that would convey the same message.
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No.117485
>>117481
>The problem is that you include yourself even though you're not the type of person that I'm referring too.
Yes because you are driving away users like me! We don't want to drive away good users!
>I'm talking about the extreme cases that use it frequently and antagonize others.
well then, for those extreme, unusual cases, simply banning them for a period of time for violating rule 5 would be enough.
>What normal non-discriminatory people do is adapt instead of outright leaving. Mainly because stating slurs isn't their main personality.
Really? Stating slurs is not my main personality, but seeing the direction the board is going, I'm about to leave, call me not-normal if you want.
Again, hiding specific words that you don't like is a terrible idea.
Please, Bell, rethink this decision.
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No.117486
>>117484
First off, thanks for giving your perspective here; it's helpful in developing the new policies either way.
Now, while I understand the logic of your concern, I'm not sure how much of an impact that really has, or if there aren't other ways to mitigate the negative impact it may have (other than throwing out the policy entirely). I'd think that, as long as the community is free to discuss (in its proper place) the implementation of such policies (i.e. what kind of language should be censored or should be allowed, and why). They may be strong policies/enforcements, sure, but discussion, dissent, and feedback are allowed and taken into full consideration and properly addressed, and I feel like that balances it out just fine.
>>117485
You're welcome to try and make us "like" those "specific words." If you don't understand why we "don't like" those words, let me try and give a brief, clear explanation. 1. They add nothing to th conversation, and while that can be said of a lot of words, there's also the fact that 2. many marginalized communities are in majority agreeance that they are harmful words that just should not be used or tolerated.
We're open to unspoilering words provided you can offer a compelling argument that the reasons stated for censoring them are not valid--likewise we are open to spoilering other words provided you can offer a compelling argument to do so. We promise to fully allow, and even encourage, such discussion, as long as it stays in its place (i.e. not leaking into unrelated threads). That's what makes this fair.
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No.117488
So based on some discussion that was had in the discord, we've decided to adjust/clarify our position on word spoilering.
Spoilering words is our current implementation of our new policy against bigoted and/or needlessly alienating language. Another way to implement that policy, without spoilering words, would be to address individual posts on a case-by-case basis; currently the issue is too widespread, and our staff too limited, to implement it that way.
But some important points were raised, and following the discussion from the discord, we've decided to acknowledge those points and take them into consideration with policy implementation current and ongoing.
1. Many popular online social environments do not do any kind of spoilering/censoring of such words, so assuming we can get a general attitude and/or staff to the level of said environments, this spoilering is probably unnecessary and unhelpful.
2. Imageboard culture has mutated some of these words (e.g. "drawfag") to the point that they arguably do not carry the same harmful connotation.
3. Slurs still have arguably acceptable usage in satire or at least in literature. Where the usage of the slur is clearly separated from the views/speech of the author themselves, its usage may be more positive than negative, and thus worth preserving there.
So we've decided to actively monitor the situation to consider lifting the spoilers once the general board culture has changed to have more self-moderation and/or we get the kind of staff size we need to moderate on a more case-by-case basis.
We encourage other users to join the discord at https://discord.gg/sDNZjHb to view the discussion in full and/or weigh in themselves.
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No.117519
>>117488
Discord link expired
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No.117532
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No.117847
I'm getting a strange error from 8kun/fur/ when I open it on Chrome, that I never had. Some images won't load or go into this constant posting cycle that restarts every time it hits 73% and fails to spoil images 4 times out of 5. and now is preventing me from posting more than 1 image, like it's 4chan or someshit. I've re-set my router, cleared my cookies, reset and redid my site settings, made sure nothing was blocked, nada, nothing is working.
Firefox has the site working perfectly, but adblockers don't function right there and pop-up virus-ads are a given. Pic related is test screencap of said image limit
Pls Help
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No.117848
>>117532
>>117519
I'd mention that Discord is fed-bait but so is 8kun TBH
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No.117999
Why are the following threads anchored? They're valid content and even if the OP is a fag, if they're not doing anything bad there isn't a problem right?
Kobold Adventure >>105504
While the OP and his cronies have been assmad about "censoring" (which is idiotic, given the text-focused nature of Kobold Adventure) other posters may want to view the thread and since we lack an archive, when it falls off, the thread is gone.
Bad Dragon >>42992 The thread is not near bump limit, is not an image dump and does not possess cubshit, and is a discussion thread of sex toys of furry nature. I personally have 0 stake in this, but it's just an example of a thread that shouldn't be anchored. If it falls off the board, it would be a loss of a lot of content, including recipes, links, advice, and other posts that are missing in the other toy threads.
>>117723 is a content-less duplicate thread and >>117023 has had no new content in 3 months. It would be fairly easy to just move the content from smaller threads to the BD one, and let it reach bumplock and sink on its own over time.
Straight Furry >>110187
While technically a minor set of dumps, its actually got some conversation and its fairly harmless, given that most posts are essentially naked pinup drawings and lewder ones are spoilered for the most part since the rules changed.
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No.118000
>>117999
trips demand these threads be unlocked
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No.118004
>>117999
>>117488
The only thing this is going to do is drive more people away from /fur/ a already small board
This silly censoring rule is stupid
Same with you just randomly deleting threads
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No.118005
>>117486
>I'd think that, as long as the community is free to discuss (in its proper place) the implementation of such policies (i.e. what kind of language should be censored or should be allowed, and why). They may be strong policies/enforcements, sure, but discussion, dissent, and feedback are allowed and taken into full consideration and properly addressed, and I feel like that balances it out just fine.
First you come for words
Censoring the words like I said previously isn't going to work and it's dumb why are you trying to make a safe for work furry board without swearing I can go to e621 and get the same experience
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No.118007
>>118005
Well actually the word censoring (most of it) has been revoked
>>118004
TBH MOST of the threads Bell deleted were literal spam or had like 20 shit posts and no actual content. The only one I'm mad about losing is the Cats thread.
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No.118011
>>118007
Start a Json effects thread I'll wait or any 621 Thread about drama oh wait you can't there's no discussion allowed about it anymore thanks to Bell and his 😬retarded fucking stupid 😬nigger 😬faggot Brigade
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No.118012
>>118007
And why are any words censored this whole point of this site the whole point of 8kun was to be better than 4chan no censoring no Gods no Kings no Masters
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No.118013
>>118011
>Thread about drama oh wait you can't there's no discussion allowed about it anymore
<ignores the several drama threads
Ok fаg. Thanks for the weird pic at least
>>118012
Ya might want to rework that grammar m8, just a bit. It's a little bothersome to parse.
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No.118015
>>118013
>ignore
Wrong
What I said was exactly
>Start a jasonafex thread I'll wait or any e621 Thread about drama oh wait you can't there's no discussion allowed about it anymore thanks to Bell
I really should have changed it to start any e621 or Jasonafex thread and then in three days expect it to be deleted or anchored
And
>Ya might want to rework that grammar m8, just a bit. It's a little bothersome to parse.
Listen here you loathsome little cunt I care because I've been on this board for the last 2 to 3 years and I've seen it in the last Almost 6 months just go down the shiter because of Bell and him going on a spree deleting threads including the furry confessional thread which was going on for two years I should know since I was the one that goddamn started it
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No.118016
>>117999
Fuck you Bell you only care about preserving certain threads that confessional thread was fucking great and you ruined it and you took it away from us so fuck you again I hope you're fucking board dies like it currently is
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SO I'M SITTIN THERE READIN THE NEWS
>WHAT?!
WASHINGTON TIMES
>WHAT?!
NEW YORK TIMES
>WHAT?!
NEW YORK POST
>WHAT?!
HUFFINGTON POST
>WHAT?!
AND THEY ALL GOT THE SAME NARRATIVE
>WHAT?!
THE SAME STORY
>WHAT?!
EVERYWHERE YA CHECK
>WHAT?!
THEY TALK ABOUT THE SIX MILLION
>WHAT?!
AND I SAYS TO MYSELF, STEVE
>WHAT?!
SIX MILLION
>WHAT?!
I SAID SIX MILLION
>WHAT?!
SIX MILLION, NOW THAT DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT
>WHAT?!
THE LOGISTICS
>WHAT?!
THE DEATH TOLL PER DAY
>WHAT?!
IT DON'T ADD UP
>WHAT?!
SO I ASKS MYSELF TRULY
>WHAT?!
STEVE
>WHAT?!
I SAID STEVE
>WHAT?!
HOW IN THE HELL IS THE HOLOCAUST REAL
>WHAT?!
AND I REALIZE IT'S A LIE
>WHAT?!
A FIB
>WHAT?!
A HALF-TRUTH USED TO MANIPULATE EMOTIONS AND JUSTIFY THE NATION OF ISRAEL
>WHAT?!
SO OLD STONE COLD IS PUTTIN' OUT A MESSAGE
>WHAT?!
NEXT TIME STONE COLD LAYS HIS EYES ON ONE OF YOU
>WHAT?!
WITH YOUR BIG NOSES
>WHAT?!
AND YOUR BEADY LITTLE EYES
>WHAT?!
YOU BETTER WATCH OUT
>WHAT?!
'CAUSE I'M GONNA STOMP A MUD HOLE
>WHAT?!
AND HIT YOU WITH THE OL' STONE COLD STUNNER
>WHAT?!
AND I'M GONNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS
>WHAT?!
THAT THE HOLOCAUST IS A HOLOHOAX
>WHAT?!
AND THATTT'S THE BOTTOM LINE... CAUSE STONE COLD SAID SO
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No.118017
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No.118018
>>118011
Abandon 8kun. Not just /fur/, but all of 8kun. There are other, better, less-buggy imageboards out there, though Bell deletes mentions to them. Bell might even delete this post!
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No.118020
>>118018
>Bell deletes them
Posting bait OPs with sketchy links is not a good look
>better imageboards
Like 3ch that actively doesn't work? Or maybe all the other fed-chans?
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No.118030
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No.118054
Uh hello? Mods? Can anyone 'in power' address the request in >>117999 ?
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No.118151
Is it just me or did a bunch of threads get pruned for no reason at all?
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No.118467
looks like we got knocked off the front page, and by /furry/ no less. . .
it's about to get even quieter around here.
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No.118527
>>118467
>/furry/
<the board that is absolutely dead and is just made up of 2 posters still assmad over some stupid rules that don't apply to 90% of posts anyway
LOL
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No.118595
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No.118596
>>118000
>>117999
Double trips demand it more
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No.118832
File: 8d783ad220a60d8⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image,68.71 KB,1280x1707,1280:1707,tumblr_pgvjxda7MX1wwghevo1….jpg)
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No.119074
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No.119400
>>119074
Boards still alive (barely) but mods are fags. The "muh freedumz" gits got what they wanted.
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No.119991
So I assume Bell is gone and so are all the mods then
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No.120102
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No.120121
>>120102
I want to duck snoop dick
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No.120122
>>120102
I want to have intercourse with the musky hell husky
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No.120123
>>120122
I want to penetrate the inverted flesh pupper
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No.120124
>>120123
I desire the act of sexual intercourse with the creepypasta defined by red tones, huskies, and human teeth
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No.120126
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No.120127
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No.120130
lmao mayt is such a tryhard
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