/fit/ - Fitness, Health, and Feels

alright this is the reference link for recipes:

http://ss.fitness/recipes

what I tried was the beef stew with cabbages,

but went a bit differently, instead ground beef (a bit misunderstanding there) I went with slow cooked chuck beef

either I'm pretty surprised as this is not even close in nutrition when compared to pork and beans,

basic recipe:

> 900g beef meat (the harder low fat one)

> 650g cabbage (nearly a whole sprout)

> 400g carrots

> 200g onions

> 130g tomato extract

> spice to taste, turmeric and garlic included

according to my calculations resulting with the following macro for a 2kg result

< F:85 / C:116 / P:200

while not that bad, its still pretty high up there with fat and carbs

perhaps finding some higher quality meat may improve it a lot

http://scoobysworkshop.com/quick-healthy-meals/

>>124350

So is eating egg yolks okay now?

this video pretty fucking good on how make bars for quicky snacks

>>124350

there was also a scooby video about making snack bars as well (got referenced from watching your link)

>>124352

eating the yolks is very good, but only a couple a day, scooby still trash them because he eats like a dozen egg whites

in fact straight up egg scrambles are good enough for fit, pair it up with a whole and maybe veggies and plus protein,

>put meat on boiling water until it changes color

>sprinkle oregano and squeeze lemon over it

>cut vegetables

>put them into boiling water

>sprinkle oregano, olive oil and vinegar over it

cooking is ez m8

>>124381

In some restaurants i go to, you need to call and order because some dishes need to start being made a day before.

But when you are cooking yourself, make that shit as simple as possible. Complicated recipes are just not worth it.

>>124383

>>124382

…..sorry mate, I'm coming off as pretentious. this isn't normally like me. i actually had no idea that some restaurants did that day in advance thing. what kinds of foods, can i ask?

lol my God, we some severe autist people around don't we?

thanks I've guess

>>124378

>that human meat chart

what the fuck

>>124387

If for any reason I find myself stranded without any possible food nearby and someone is about to get eaten, you better believe it's not going to be me.

>could you pay the $500 fine?

>>124384

Its mostly stuff thats needs to be cooked very, VERY, slowly or use some traditional cooking technic only someone knows how to

>>124381

i would need one of the 5 pic, but fot the other hemisfere, and the climate from here

>>124350

>>124352

Don't bother throwing your yolks away if you can't afford eggs, or at least learn how to save them and use them for something else if at all. It's also worth mentioning that you can make your own broths/stews out of any part of any part of the vegetable or meat that you don't use, like the skins, stems, and bones of course.

>>124754

Forgot to mention that Walmart has a Generic Value brand box of 60 eggs you can buy for 3 dollars.

>>124757

>branded eggs

only in America

>>124808

How else are you gonna know where your eggs come from?

>>124818

they come from chicken you retard…

that's all you need to know

>>124820

Ok sure but where does all the cum you're guzzling come from?

>>124830

*boobies

not thighs. god damn it.

>>125047

do you eat raw hummus?

>>125183

I just got into this too, from what I researched it seems whey isolate is taken up fastest by the body. I got the cheapest I could with no sweeterners or aromas added. It's basically whey protein and lactose. Mixed with milk it tastes kind of sweet but not really good. I added two spoons of cocoa in a shaker and it was ok.

I've been avoiding powders up until now because I didn't think it was natural, but I realized if you choose the right kind it's the same as normal food anyway, just more convenient.

>>125198

but does also have other supplemental protein, mostly important here are the bcaa, arginine, collagen

> got the cheapest I could with no sweeterners or aromas added

I literally cannot find raw non-flavored protein, this market is already niche in my country, I doubt there any redpilled costumers to buy them

> I added two spoons of cocoa in a shaker and it was ok

yeah I wandered about this too, wether to get pure cocoa, or chocolate powder

however I've just tried a morning mix and its actually much better:

> 20g protein powder

> 5g creatine

> 5g instant coffee

> a banana (around 80g)

either 100g milk or just fill with water to 200~250ml

overall in my macro this accounted to 28g carbs and 22g protein more or less

the only I problem I see is this was supposed to be a pre-workout shake, and having it be too heavy would not be ideal

>>125229

I used 300ml of 1,5% fat milk with 33g protein powder and 2 teaspoons of cocoa powder. It got better with some cream added. I first tried mixing it with O'boy chocolate powder but combined with the sweetness of the protein powder itself it was so sweet it was hard to swallow even.

In all that adds up to around 35g of protein and 250 calories total. Carbs 3 grams so it's nothing. I got this as an after workout drinky.

>>125183

Sounds like Sam's Club protein powder. Concentrate is the shit-tier of protein forms since it's typically used as protein filler to cut down on production costs. It doesn't absorb that great but it'll still work if you're sperging out and eating 100g+/day protein. The amino acid chains are basically just your standard BCAA and, once more, are being used to cut down on production costs. It'd be just as effective to mix a couple teaspoons of liquid aminos into your pre-workout shake (actually it'd be more effective due to the salt content of liquid aminos). It actually pisses me off a bit because they can cut it with BCAAs, but they can't cut it with creatine which is standard practice for these sorts of things. The Hydrolyzed protein sources is good for post-workout but it means you'll get hungry faster. It's not bad anon, I just want you to understand that you're wasting money on filler and losing out on about 1-5 grams of protein per scoop that you'd likely have with a protein-only brand.

I'd suggest making brownies with it. They'll come out more like sponge cake but it's good shit. Chocolate Pancakes are always an option as well.

>>125229

Try a hippy grocery store if you want raw whey. We have Sprouts, Whole Foods, and Trader Joe's here in America, not sure what the equivalent is in Brazil. They keep it in the supplements aisle.

>>125236

>Concentrate is the shit-tier of protein forms since it's typically used as protein filler to cut down on production costs

that's the point this has a varied tier of different AA, supplying both base whey BCAA, arginine, collagen, (eg things that are also supplemented on their own)

the end product is still protein rich, 26g/40g which is about the same for even the expensive ones

> but it'll still work if you're sperging out and eating 100g+/day protein

I'm still eating 100g natural protein a day,this is to just supplement…

> but they can't cut it with creatine which is standard practice for these sorts of things

you can't take too much creatine though, while its fine to take a lot of whey to supp on your protein, you should take at max 10g creatine per day only

> mix a couple teaspoons of liquid aminos into your pre-workout

what the fuck do you call a liquid amino?

> I just want you to understand that you're wasting money on filler and losing out on about 1-5 grams of protein per scoop that you'd likely have with a protein-only brand

but here is the thing, this was 80 hue-bucks only, was the cheapest product on the rack, less than half the price on on the "quality imported" products

and from a nutritional standpoint, this is was the highest quality, due the variety of ingredients/protein it takes

> try a hippy grocery store

I brought this on one of those big pharma stores, the only other place to find supplements would in fitness or "bro" stores, which could be just as expensive and lacking in variety, but I had some credit on this pharma and it turned to be a pretty good deal

why do you fags even care about these recipes?

you need money to eat luxurious food.

Stick to your whey protein shakes.

you are all poor and if you have children they will be poor too!

>>125719

>luxurious food

yeah living the high life here!

>>125718

>But it's okay dude; practice makes perfect. I've made some seriously retarded fuck ups in my experiences of cooking

thanks paste pasta man,

but did you even read the fucking post, did you even watch the videos?

>If you can't get spreadable peanut butter consider buying a peanut grinder

did you look for how to make peanut spread? basically all you need is to heat up the peanut and a food processor, and perhaps a bit of oil

I've added milk anyway when mixing it, since the recipe required it anyway, but still the mixer alone was not enough to get a good consistency (read, small blade, to much work to get through everything)

and I don't if mentioned before, but there isn't any baking at all involved in any part of the process, this was meant as cereal bars and not as a cake

I actually wonder if they can some healthy alternative with baking involved, like brownies or cookies or something, I'd be up to try that

and finally, it turned half bad in the end, I've managed to cut them up into reasonable sizes, only the corners turned out bad,

but doesn't matter, next I can use a smaller pan or just roll them up in tubes

>>125718k

>that ramen chart

T-This kills gains, r-rite?

>>125794

The only thing you have to worry about are those insane preservation additives that you honestly get almost every food on the shelves today.

Apart from that, nah, they're just complex carbs. And if you add real meat, some veggies, and maybe an egg you've got yourself a full course meal. Granted, almost every single ramen packet is two servings and about 380 calories all together with the seasoning. So it's more like a cheat code for someone in college. If you can afford gourmet noodles you should stick with that as ramen is just one of many different types of oriental noodle varieties.

>Do noodles kill gains? I seriously don't know for sure.

>>125794

>>125815

you guys are kidding right? I basically learned that shit since I was 15 yo, its basically emergency meal…

ramen is extremely bad, not only high carb pasta, but its also cooked with fat (I think is fried pasta?)

so very high cal, not very filling and absolutely no vitamin/nutrients

trying to create a general use spreadsheet for nutrition,

where you can keep save all base ingredients and value and can easily put together recipes to get their summed macros

however I'm pretty shit at Excel, or Libre Excel for that matter, anyone wants to help?

Anyone have a replacement for flax seed, especially milled flax seed? I'm looking for something with high fiber content and earthy taste that doesn't kill my test.

What are the best snacks and meals to buy that dont require prep or cooking

t. lazy piece of shit

>>126503

>Nuts

>Fruit

>Celery

>Carrots

>>126460

> implying instant noodles + hotdogs are anything but empty calories

>>126503

chips and candy bars, they're great

>>125719

Go back to eating your frogs and live squid.

I highly recommend the combination of white rice and eggs. It has all your macros, and is easy to eat. I do 1 cup of rice (dry) and 16 scrambled eggs for my breakfast, I put salt in and it tastes great. If you scramble the eggs soft and then pour them onto the fresh rice it makes it even easier to eat a lot for extra calories. Another way to increase the calories is to add a bit of coconut oil or butter into the mix, which gives it more taste and a better texture.

>>127166

Whats bad about my recipe? Because it isn't fancy enough, or do you have substantial criticism?

>>127175

your recipe has basically 2 or 3 ingredients for the whole day

if you seriously don't know whats wrong with that, then I don't know how to tell you

>>127167

> I do 1 cup of rice (dry) and 16 scrambled eggs for my breakfast

have you any idea of the macros on a single egg?

>>127176

I just eat it daily, doesn't mean i eat nothing else. Over the rest of the idea i usually eat a ton of lowfat quark with some fruits or muesli in it, peanuts every now and then and so on

>>127203

problem?

come on sperg it out

>>127210

Hey! You were right, working out on an empty stomach isn't that bad. I wouldn't mind a tiny protein bar before though, with some water or a protein milk/shake. I just like food is all.

Scrambled egg whites with onions, mushroom, and jalapenos

Pumpkin pancake

Salmon fillet with basil-Alfredo sauce

~800kl

I'm thinking a smoothie and protein bar for lunch, and chicken and noodle shells for dinner. Maybe some oats and a banana?

Aww man I ate so much fucking food today. Bulking up, gotta get big brah. I had oats, then a huge plate of bowtie pasta with like a third or half pound of ground beef slop over it, was good and made me feel sleepy all afternoon. Then I had a chicken/spinach wrap, beef stew, and now I just finished it off with a 600 calorie Greek pizza. Feel full asf. In retrospect, my macronutrient ratio was total shit, way too much carbs, not enough brotein, and today is a rest day. But at least I ate enough so I can gain weight.

>>129122

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Don't put (((flax))) in it though, that's the most potent phytoestrogen of all.

>>129192

oh yeah and some yogurt

>>124382

Complicated foods can be worth it if you can make a shitload of it and have enough for several meals.

What's all this shit about egg whites? Why is everyone afraid of the yolk? Pretty sure that's where most of the nutrition, including the protein, is. I've only ever seen women eat egg whites because it's low calorie or some shit.

>>129275

Lol, you got me.

>>129275

Only reason to limit yolk is so you don't blow your caloric allowance. Show me a closer to 100% protein food that isn't fake and processed powder.

I'm just looking for any and all advice y'all can give me in regard to keto diet on a budget. Tired of my carb addiction holding me back.

Step 1: find an empty ice tray

Step 2: fill it with distilled water

Step 3: pour Cheerios into the water

Step 4: place in freezer for 6 hours

Step 5: empty ice tray into your pockets

Now you have a healthy snack that will protect your heart, provide whole grain energy and hydrate your body on a hot day. You can pop em in your mouth whenever you're feeling too hot, hungry, or thirsty.

>>125718

Picante Chicken is the only Ramen worth buying but I never get to have it because some cunt who goes to my grocery store grabs all the boxes the minute they're re-stocked.

>>129363

I think you picked the wrong door, http://www.icechewing.com/ is two blocks down.

Does anybody here use eatthismuch?

What do you think of it?

Worth premium subscription?

>>130073

Interesting. Seems to be highly disorganized, and by so I mean cluttered. Speaking, I haven't seen the app version. So far it seems like a randomly generated cookbook with moderate nutritional accuracy. How much does it cost, and does it have a large number of recipes?

Ok, the sticky sorta covered it, but what are good resources to study nutrition in depth?

Honestly I'm confused at this point, some people saying high fat is good, others saying low fat, people told me egg was bad because of cholesterol, now it's ok and cholesterol isn't too bad. I also want to learn in more detail about various chemicals I consume and how X and Y effect my body.

Is there an image of book recommendations like /pol/ or what?

I just feel totally ignorant of nutrition, and I need to correct that for maximum improvement.

How do you study nutrition when everything seems conflicting?

Like people say a glass of wine a day is healthy, someone told me alcohol has some chemical in it that harms testosterone production and was sorta similar to soy.

>>130184

You want to learn what food is made of.

You want to learn what organs do what, and to what parts of the foods that you eat do those organs what do what do wopdeewop?

And after doing what those organs do to the parts of what the foods you eat are made up of, what effects follow?

I can't attach the file I'm trying to attach…. If anyone wants to make a /fit/ dedicated thread on /pdf/ I'll post like a motherfucker. You're looking for food chemistry, exercise science, biology, and nutrition. Just those keywords alone should set you on the right rack. Then you could look up molecular structures, chemical compounds and reactions along the lines of biochemistry. I think organic chemistry will help you as well. What books to look for? Try the reference section of the library if you can't find something condensed elsewhere. Try /t/ if you're wiling to the distance from the comfort of your chair.

>>130291

Any recommendations in general, I'm willing to buy books, my issue is mainly.

>buy book on nutrition

>it's simplified shit like protein, fiber, carbs and fat (I hate the "health" industry, how many books and fad diets do you need for simple stuff like this?)

>nothing about complex shit like omega 3

I know everyone says it's good, but I want to know what it does exactly, even if it's 10/10. That's just surface stuff too, I'm sure there are compounds and molecules I have never heard of.

I have no idea what /t/ is but I will check. /pdfs/ had nothing on the topic.

>>130380

I've been trying to attach a pdf that might help. I'll try and post it again if i get the chance later this week.

And if you want something more complicated, in depth, or advanced (that isn't just simplified) then you should look for old and new college textbooks on the subjects mentioned. Don't dog on For Dummies books, they're usually pretty damn valuable in their information and how it's presented. At the most you can write down keywords and subjects that you can further research in your free time.

But if you can't handle simplified material you probably can't handle advanced material. Don't bother.

Legumes will kill you

>>130434

I'm looking at books on Amazon and come across a new problem. When you do find a promising book, it's expensive as fuck.

Why are books on nutrition actually expensive?

I have seen people talk of "antioxidants" and "muh electrolytes" but they never elaborate. Why are buzzwords everywhere but if you want to examine them to see validity, you are fucked.

>>130486

libgen.io

>>130434

>>130380

you guys are faggot and don't need to be buying books for fancy recipes

just go with basic sturdy food (working men/ pioneer) every country has its version of it and usually cheap

if you want more details on macros, just check the average macro for each ingredient and sum them up

and usually a good catch all recipe is joining up half meat of some kind half starchy vegetables, and you got yourself a nice stew

>>124381

>Utah - green Jell-O

>Vermont - (((Ben & Jerry's))) ice cream

rip

>>124338

vegan recipes coming in! you're gonna love this!

HOW TO MAKE YOUR OWN HIGH PROTEIN AND AMINO ACID MULTIVITAMIN CEREAL AND NUTMILK

to make nutmilk

>cashews and almonds

>water

>you control how much (don't accidentally make watery nut butter)

>blend it up until creamy and watery

>leave the fiber in! no need to filter it! that's stupid!

>only make what you will use right away. don't store it.

ingredients are just possiblities. You can choose to add or not add any combination of them and make your own custom cereal but it wont be as good if you don't add all this good stuff.

try to get everything raw, and try to get it certified organic or at least non-gmo project verified.

>shredded coconut (those white flakes that are edible in the package, cheaper online)

>rolled oats

>almonds

>cashews

>raisins

>walnuts

>pecans

>pistachios

>dried fruit

>dark chocolate pieces

>hemp protein powder

>freshly ground flax and chia seeds

>cinnamon (sweet variety or ceylon cinnamon/ verum goes by a few names)

>pumpkin seeds

>banana flakes

>carrot powder

>poppy seeds

>sesame seeds

>some oat bran if you like

>you might also want to add some spirulina, maca root, cocoa powder, milk thistle powder, fenugreek powder, and a pinch of saw palmetto for the extra flavor and health benefits. (spirulina will turn it green)

>very small pinch of black pepper

>very small pinch of pink himalayan salt

>a little allspice

>a little ginger

>a little clove powder

>a little real vanilla

>mix it all up

>put in container

>container goes in freezer

>if you can get it all usda organic or biologique, all nuts and seeds and ingredients must be raw, not pasteurized or cooked.

>at the very least get it non-gmo

>basically is a multivitamin that doesn't go bad for over a year if you are extremely careful about it. (keep it frozen when not using it)

you could also dump a can of pumpkin in this! it's like pumpkin pie cereal!

if you can't find some of the ingredients just do your best. it will still come out tasty. find fair and affordable prices and be careful to not get scammed. if it seems too expensive, don't buy it.

Want to know the secret truth about protein bars?

most protein bars are just as bad, if not worse than the junk food snack bars sold next to the lines at shopping stores. you can actually convert my home made cereal recipe into a cereal protein bar by the way. just add a little peanut butter (only peanuts and maybe a little sea salt. no other ingredients. read the jar before you buy it. you want the real peanut butter) until it sticks together and then and smash it together and press it into bar shapes. "walla."

I am Not a doctor or a nutritionist. Ask your doctor and nutritionist before doing or stopping anything.

fun salad recipe for beginners

set aside some space for when you want to make it fresh. get your fresh ingredients somewhere that sells them at a fair price. make it fresh at home and then eat it right away.

(just get what ingredients you can)

>can of black beans

>can of dark red kidney beans

>drain juice from beans and put them in a big bowl

>get baby carrots

>add to bowl

>get celery, chop, add to bowl

>you should have beans, carrots, all these things chopped to around the same size to make spooning easy

>avocado

>chop to same size pieces as the rest of the stuff

>do same with tomato

>add a teaspoon of coconut oil and/or hempseed oil over the top (optional and as a rare treat, most of the time make this without added oil)

>(don't add any ingredients if you allergic to them!)

>some ground flax and chia seeds (a few small spoons, buy whole and grind yourself right before use for best nutrients)

>little pink himalayan salt

>little black pepper (the salt shaker type of pepper)

>little fresh basil

>little oregano

>crush one garlic clove and mix it in

>big dash of onion powder and mix it in

>add some cucumber (diced)

>mix everything really good

>squeeze some lemon and lime over it

>make lemon lime onade as drink

>watermelon as desert

I am Not a doctor or a nutritionist. Ask your doctor and nutritionist before doing or stopping anything.

here is a good one:

>peas

>carrots

>onions

>garlic

>celery

>broccoli

>add to a pot with some water

>make veg stew

or

>don't add the celery

>use all the other ingredients

>put it in a pyrex in the oven

>onions and garlic at the bottom so they caramelize

>slow bake it until the onions underneath (don't make this too thick or it wont cook evenly!) are caramelized and the top of the veg is crispy and golden brown

protip: you don't have to use oil, just cook on a lower temp for longer so you get some crisp

anyone else got some good plant based recipes?

oh and I forgot, you can add some soy beans (out of the pod) (and remember always organic or you are getting some horrible pesticide soy!). they blend in nicely along side the peas, but add alot of extra texture contrast and some nice after flavors.

I am Not a doctor or a nutritionist. Ask your doctor and nutritionist before doing or stopping anything.

vegan pizza:

cashew cheese

>grind cashews in blender or food processor into powder

>boil carrots and onions and garlic in a pot until soft, let cool and save it with the water. OR get some onion and garlic powder with carrot powder.

>blend or food processor the water, carrots, onions, garlic, pinch of pink salt, black pepper, nutritional yeast, squirt of stone ground mustard and a squirt of spicy brown mustard, teaspoon of miso paste, and the ground cashews until you form a thick paste (do this little at a time so you don't burn out your blender or food processor)

this tastes weird but kind of good raw, but simmered or baked for a few minutes tastes just like mac and cheese sauce.

crust

>get some rolled oats

>blend or food processor until you have a course meal. not fine and powdery, won't be as good.

>mix some water into it until it just sticks together, nothing more or it will be too soft inside

>squish flat like slightly less than half an inch thick on a big baking sheet and spread it nice and wide so you have a giant oat bread rectangle

>bake at around 350-375-400-425 american temp for 20-50 minutes depending on your oven, basically for this whole recipe, crust, cheese, pizza and beyond you want to stay near your oven watching to make sure you don't burn it. honestly do your own research ahead of time and don't trust my temperature or cook time.

(be careful to not get burned from being too close to hot things! your oven and it's splattering dangerous contents will be hot during and even after cooking! vegan pizzas are not safer temperature-wise than normal pizzas!)

>assuming you're using a stainless steel or pyrex baking sheet or cake pan, the flat oat bread rectangle crust biscuit thing should be golden brown and slightly crispy on the outside and should have automatically unstuck itself from the pan all on it's own leaving little to no stuck on material behind.

>take the oat bread crust biscuit thing and put it aside

sauce

>get a pot

>get some canned bpa free black beans

>get some canned bpa free dark red kidney beans

>get some tomatos fresh or canned bpa free

>put all that in the pot

>add garlic powder onion powder dry oregano dry basil

>add a teaspoon of balsamic vinegar

>add a very small pinch of cumin

>add a very small pinch of cayenne pepper

>add a pinch of black pepper

>add a very small pinch of edible food grade summer savory if your spice shop has it

>boil that for 10 minutes

get your pan you made the oat bread crust biscuit thing in

>add a layer of cashew cheese on your oat crust biscuit thing

>put it in the oven and bake until the cheese starts to get a little toasty or golden brown

this is important to keep the oat bread from getting soggy.

>take the pan out

>add a layer of beany tomato sauce

>get some organic sprouted super firm tofu

>slice it into little flat squares or rectangles

>layer the tofu on top of the sauce as if its mozzarella slices on a margarita pizza

>add the rest of your beany tomato sauce

>add a thick layer of more cashew cheese on top of the tofu tomato beany saucy layer

>if you have fresh tomato you can slice it into circles and add it like a margarita pizza on top of all the layers at the end if you like

>bake again until golden brown and slightly dark around the edges (watch out your oat bread crust doesn't burn)

>take it out

>let cool for a few min so it firms up a little

>cut and serve like lasagna

>must be served with a glass of red wine that is equally balanced in it's dry/wet ratio and it's sweet/not sweet ratio that is vegan and organic and has no added sulfites (naturally occurring sulfites only) with a shot of vodka and a glass of lemon water.

I am Not a doctor or a nutritionist. Ask your doctor and nutritionist before doing or stopping anything.

>>132434

this one is great once you get good at it!

warning, you will shit your fucking pants if you eat too much! it's got a ton of fiber!

>>132435

>warning, you will shit your fucking pants if you eat too much! it's got a ton of fiber!

So when are you leaving for the jungle to live amongst your gorilla brethren? They don't even have one pair of pants to shit but plenty of shit to throw! so you'll fit right in. They'll appreciate the pizza too, as they can utilize hind gut fermentation to be well nourished from it.

>>132431

>vegan recipes coming in! you're gonna love this!

no I'm not, where the fuck do you think we are? this is not some kind of infomercial shit

>>132436

>>132443

butthurt antivegan shill roasties (((OYYYYY VVVVEEEEEYYYYYYYY STOP TEACHING THE GOYIM HOW TO EAT HEALTHY!!! BIG PHARMA CANT MAKE MONEY IF THEY CAN'T PRESCRIBE DRUGS ALL THE TIME!!)))

>>132453

>vegan soyboy trying to tell men who eat meat, one of mankind's earliest forms of sustenance, that they're being shilled

You're just embarrassing yourself. It's not even amusing.

>>132454

>we always ate really unhealthy shit and it's totally normal

<hey that's not good for you, we know better now

>WHOA FUCKING ESTROGENBOY OVER HERE GONNA TELL US MANLY MEN HOW TO SCRATCH OUR BALLS HA HA HA *gets cancer/ diabetes/ heart disease/ high cholesterol/ atherosclerosis/ high blood pressure*

>Awwww FUCK I blame DRUMFP! A-AND the RUSSIANS!!!

fucking retard.

The healthiest foods in the world are plant foods.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=SnqVN56EjrM

>>132461

You need to see a psychiatrist.

>>132483

Psychiatry is a joke and the industry shouldn't be supported. He should just kill himself and save everyone the time and effort of supporting his continued existence.

why eat cancer causing meat and veggies when you can just eat veggies? really, why?

>>132572

>Implying the vague category of "vegetables" doesn't include things that cause cancer.

>>132572

>Implying high quality meat causes cancer.

>>132574

if they aren't coverent in pesticides and are non-gmo I would rather eat vegetables than meat.

>>132580

high quality meat will only give you high quality cancer, not sure if that's any better or worse. wouldn't recommend anyway.

>>132586

if they aren't contaminated with*

>>132625

bump for the vegan thread

>>132586

It was eating meat, learning how to cook it that made us so smart. Having all that energy available allowed us to evolve larger and larger brains. Herbivores are retarded, yet you'd rather pretend to be prey and turn your back on what made humans great in the first place. Disgusting.

>>132692

>vegans are treasonous meat traitors!

literally the best argument you got. my blood test results come back better than yours, I'm very sure of that, unless you just push a pro-meat agenda on the internet and then go home and eat vegan because while you're not at your shill job you're busy eating what you know is healthy.

>>132714

>my blood test results come back better than yours

the vegan is dennis

>>132722

>everybody with good test results is dennis

nice try

>>132732

"my blood test results come back better than yours, I'm very sure of that" is the type of thing someone says when they've never had a blood test in their entire life. Overly vague, no specifics because he probably doesn't even know what values a blood test looks for. And then "I'm very sure of that" to boost his perceived trustworthiness at the end, for people who are idiots and take everything at face value.

>>124338

Hey.

Here I recently got diagnosed with Hashimoto's disease I hope I won't have to answer too many questions. I HATE calcium supplements now. What kind of foods do I have to prepare and avoid.

Please respond quickly :,^(

>>132755

I recommend you make a thread. There is some indication that autoimmune thyroid diseases happen when an excess of iodine is in the diet especially with a simultaneous deficiency of selenium. Iodine is usually adequate in the case of frequent dairy or seafood consumption. Avoidance of iodized salt, seaweed/kelp, and only eating a single major iodine source can be helpful to prevent having too much. The problem is exacerbated and perhaps in someways caused by excess consumption of unsaturated fats.

The more unsaturated a fat is, the higher the iodine number. Fats are rated by a so-called iodine number that indicates the number of unsaturated double bonds present. Iodine has a tendency to spontaneously react with unsaturated fats at the double bond locations creating what is called an iodized fat or iodized oil. These iodized fats have questionable health effects, and my recent searches of the scientific literature seem to suggest either their exact nature is not well known/ignored or they have not yet been studied with enough scrutiny. They are commonly created with radioactive iodine—not for regular consumption—but for the purpose of diagnostic tests.

I have read a theory that the iodized fats mimic TSH upon reaching the thyroid, which sounds highly problematic to me. The presence of TSH is supposed to indicate that the thyroid may begin accelerating activity because food/energy is present, but fats are released into the blood stream during a fasting state—the opposite situation. It doesn't take much to imagine that this false signal in the form of iodized fat to upregulate metabolic activity may make the thyroid less sensitive or unable to respond to endogenous TSH—the true marker of when increased thyroid activity is needed—and subsequently create a state of hypothyroidism. The opposite, hyperthyroidism, can also occur, as thyroid destruction is seen in thyroiditis, and this may release stored T4 and T3 into the blood stream when the thyroid starts dying. This thyroid destruction may be associated with the energy blocking effects of the unsaturated fats and their iodized counterparts. The thyroid needs to eat too, and when pseudo-TSH tells it to get to work when there is no good food, it amounts to slave driving while starving.

The solution could partly be avoidance of unsaturated fats, especially polyunsaturated fat, as it has the most double bonds, making it the most problematic. But you may have a great amount of stored unsaturated fats—both iodized and not–in adipose tissue that may not be gone for several years depending on your metabolic rate and the dietary and lifestyle choices you make. The best way to get rid of stored iodized fat is to do so slowly so as to not overwhelm the thyroid. The more muscle you can build, the better, as muscle feasts on fat and will probably aid the disposal of the iodized fats. As long as your thyroid is unresponsive to endogenous TSH, it may be important to have T3 and T4 (mainly T3 though) available for supplementation when you eat food to keep all systems running smoothly. Have adequate saturated fat intake may make the body less prone to using unsaturated fat for energy, safely storing it in adipose tissue. So a little consumption of either coconut oil, dairy fat, or cocoa butter may help, but the primary type of calories needed to heal the thyroid are in the form of carbs. A high carbohydrate, lower fat diet may help you.

Iodine is an essential nutrient, but if administered in the wrong context, things can go very wrong.

https://chriskresser.com/iodine-for-hypothyroidism-like-gasoline-on-a-fire/

>>132733

what kind of a pathetic post is this? my bloods so great I got vampires knocking on my door asking for some.

>low bad cholesterol

>low but okay amount of "good" cholesterol

>no bad shit

>good amounts of all the vitamins and minerals that should be in there

>all levels in good ranges, or exceeding beyond to excellent ranges

want me to post my social security number too?

>>124338

Holy shit I hate this fucking picture.

>>124372

Chili cheese fries and cheese fries, but no poutine? What the fuck is this shit.

>>139303

You're advocating fucking poison. It doesn't matter if you add meatballs. Flax is one of the worst things you could have in your diet.

>>139303

Yu, Bin, et al. "Maternal dietary exposure to fiber during pregnancy and mammary tumorigenesis among rat offspring." International journal of cancer 119.10 (2006): 2279-2286.

https://doi.org/10.1002/ijc.22201

Khan, Galam, et al. "Maternal flaxseed diet during pregnancy or lactation increases female rat offspring's susceptibility to carcinogen-induced mammary tumorigenesis." Reproductive Toxicology 23.3 (2007): 397-406.

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.reprotox.2007.02.002

>>139316

>>139317

No one here's a pregnant woman. But if that's true, then just use half that amount of ground chia or something, or more nut butter.

>>139318

are you able to read? the offspring got poisoned during pregnancy and nursing meaning the mothers weren't able to filter it enough through their bodies. and you want to eat this stuff directly. fuck your liver

can't you eat rice instead of "rice protein"? jesus christ

>>125054

Hummus isn't naturally occurring, is it? What you mean raw hummus? Beans?

>>139319

whats the actual deal with flax seeds?

I see that shit advertised everywhere healthy and natural

>>144061

They're bad for test like soy

Maybe its good for women but men need not eat that junk

>>144076

what about quinoa and barley and stuff

So a question about corn, is the canned type alright to use?

I've been eating them as something to give a little bit more variety in my main meals, which is pork & beans 300g, then +50g of both peas and corn.

The pork & beans are great, lots protein and some micronutrients, peas another good alternative as well, and putting them together is not a bad idea, though I'm unsure about the corn.

Its rate just a bit higher carbs and protein, but are there any redflags on using these, specially since they processed like this?

>>144060

reporting in, tomorrow I'll try out a bone broth recipe, intend to take a daily cup in morning together with some powdered supplements,

fount this very interesting study:

https://www.alive.com/health/bone-broth-analysis-reader-research/

it sadly seems to be incomplete at the end, but basic tl;dr is:

there is nothing magical about bone broth, turns out that the amount of minerals is quite underwhelming

though it provides a rather large amount of collagen based protein, so it may indeed help a lot in lifting

the author also found that a good part of missing minerals could still be solid in sediments at the bottom of the pot

but unfortunately that's where the pages abruptly ends without conclusion.

>>144170

It probably has a lot of sugar, just read the nutritional label

>>144170

Corn, more so than other nonwheat grains, has effects beyond high-carbohydrate content. The zein protein of corn partially resembles the gliadin protein of wheat, meaning it can provoke some of the same health effects. It means, for example, that the zein protein of corn can initiate the first step of autoimmune diseases, conditions as far-ranging as rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, multiple sclerosis, autoimmune hepatitis, type 1 diabetes, psoriasis, eczema, cerebellar ataxia, and some forms of dementia.40, 41, 42 Corn is also a prominent trigger for allergies. As many as 90 percent of people who deal with cornstarch in the pharmaceutical industry (as filler in pills and capsules), food production, or agriculture develop allergic responses to corn over time.43

>40A. Fasano, “Zonulin, Regulation of Tight Junctions, and Autoimmune Diseases,” Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences 1258, no. 1 (July 2012): 25–33.

<41E. Vainio and E. Varionen, “Antibody Response against Wheat, Rye, Barley, Oats, and Corn: Comparison between Gluten-Sensitive Patients and Monoclonal Antigliadin Antibodies,” International Archives of Allergy and Immunology 106, no. 2 (February 1995): 134–38.

>42J. P. Ortiz-Sanchez, F. Cabrera-Chavez, and A. M. de la Barca, “Maize Prolamins Could Induce a Gluten-Like Cellular Immune Response in Some Celiac Disease Patients,” Nutrients 5, no. 10 (October 21, 2013): 4174–83.

<43M. P. Valencia Zavala, G. B. Vega Robledo, M. A. Sanchez Olivas, et al., “Maize (Zea Mays): Allergen or Toleragen? Participation of the Cereal in Allergic Disease and Positivity Incidence in Cutaneous Tests,” Revista Alergia México 53, no. 6 (November–December 2006): 207–11.

>>144299

The nutritional value isn't that bad, in comparison for example with a pea can from the same brand:

130g   Corn | Peas
Carbs   37g |  19g
Prot   8,6g | 7,8g
Fat    0,8g | 0,8g
Fiber  5,1g | 7,1g

And of course both of these should have some sugar and salt, plus preservatives added in the liquid.

Its a lot higher carb, but depending on you what you need, it could serve it well.

Now what I was doing is having a 50g serving of each, together with my main meal for balance.

>>144302

Now this is some interesting research and what I was wondering about, but does that also mean that whole wheat grain/flour is bad as well? Though it doesn't look like its the worst thing ever, just a small risk of worsening autoimmune diseases, if I got that right.

>>144305

>does that also mean that whole wheat grain/flour is bad as well?

Yes

See video

It's time to activate those almonds.

https://archive.fo/y1Aqf

>Researchers found that mens' sperm count, shape, and motility improved when they ate a mix of almonds, hazelnuts, and walnuts every day.

>>144307

This is Important

Holy crap, what an eye opener, I've noticed how good it gets just from depriving from daily bread, but holy crap to think it has such far reaching effects even to the point that it can worsen ADD and mental diseases.

Corn as you said also seem to be a danger thing, and I used to eat as a staple in my diet as well, and he even mentions rice at some point. Question is, what else do we need to steer way from?

Thanks nethernon, we need to compile a list of extremely danger foods to stay away from completely.

>>144294

Yea, or after ending a fast, you could drink it for a good soothing ease back into a normal diet. Bone broth when paired with high rep low weight calisthenics will give you joints of steel. Collagen is really good for joints obviously

>>145100

What was the deal there? I came to the conclusion it isn't that worth it.

It isn't that nutritious, it does have high protein and high collagen, which is the good part, but it's hard to do and takes a lot of work and time, is a bit disgusting to take and store, and isn't really available on stores in my country.

>>124383

>Here's the magnet to the Modernist Cuisine set, idk about Modernist Cuisine at Home though.

I found it, and it comes with a Kitchen Manual companion. Both books seem to be scanned at decent resolution. Here's the magnet link:

>magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4b29510f714509a1c2341f47472ea70efa64e225&dn=Modernist%20Cuisine%20-%20at%20Home&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3a6969&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.pirateparty.gr%3a6969&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3a6969&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fopentrackr.org%3a1337&tr=udp%3a%2f%2feddie4.nl%3a6969&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.zer0day.to%3a1337

Anyone got blender recipes? I remember one with peanut butter, banana, oats, and milk but I'm curious on the measurements