/fit/ - Fitness, Health, and Feels

>>132483

Psychiatry is a joke and the industry shouldn't be supported. He should just kill himself and save everyone the time and effort of supporting his continued existence.

why eat cancer causing meat and veggies when you can just eat veggies? really, why?

>>132572

>Implying the vague category of "vegetables" doesn't include things that cause cancer.

>>132572

>Implying high quality meat causes cancer.

>>132574

if they aren't coverent in pesticides and are non-gmo I would rather eat vegetables than meat.

>>132580

high quality meat will only give you high quality cancer, not sure if that's any better or worse. wouldn't recommend anyway.

>>132586

if they aren't contaminated with*

>>132625

bump for the vegan thread

>>132586

It was eating meat, learning how to cook it that made us so smart. Having all that energy available allowed us to evolve larger and larger brains. Herbivores are retarded, yet you'd rather pretend to be prey and turn your back on what made humans great in the first place. Disgusting.

>>132692

>vegans are treasonous meat traitors!

literally the best argument you got. my blood test results come back better than yours, I'm very sure of that, unless you just push a pro-meat agenda on the internet and then go home and eat vegan because while you're not at your shill job you're busy eating what you know is healthy.

>>132714

>my blood test results come back better than yours

the vegan is dennis

>>132722

>everybody with good test results is dennis

nice try

>>132732

"my blood test results come back better than yours, I'm very sure of that" is the type of thing someone says when they've never had a blood test in their entire life. Overly vague, no specifics because he probably doesn't even know what values a blood test looks for. And then "I'm very sure of that" to boost his perceived trustworthiness at the end, for people who are idiots and take everything at face value.

>>124338

Hey.

Here I recently got diagnosed with Hashimoto's disease I hope I won't have to answer too many questions. I HATE calcium supplements now. What kind of foods do I have to prepare and avoid.

Please respond quickly :,^(

>>132755

I recommend you make a thread. There is some indication that autoimmune thyroid diseases happen when an excess of iodine is in the diet especially with a simultaneous deficiency of selenium. Iodine is usually adequate in the case of frequent dairy or seafood consumption. Avoidance of iodized salt, seaweed/kelp, and only eating a single major iodine source can be helpful to prevent having too much. The problem is exacerbated and perhaps in someways caused by excess consumption of unsaturated fats.

The more unsaturated a fat is, the higher the iodine number. Fats are rated by a so-called iodine number that indicates the number of unsaturated double bonds present. Iodine has a tendency to spontaneously react with unsaturated fats at the double bond locations creating what is called an iodized fat or iodized oil. These iodized fats have questionable health effects, and my recent searches of the scientific literature seem to suggest either their exact nature is not well known/ignored or they have not yet been studied with enough scrutiny. They are commonly created with radioactive iodine—not for regular consumption—but for the purpose of diagnostic tests.

I have read a theory that the iodized fats mimic TSH upon reaching the thyroid, which sounds highly problematic to me. The presence of TSH is supposed to indicate that the thyroid may begin accelerating activity because food/energy is present, but fats are released into the blood stream during a fasting state—the opposite situation. It doesn't take much to imagine that this false signal in the form of iodized fat to upregulate metabolic activity may make the thyroid less sensitive or unable to respond to endogenous TSH—the true marker of when increased thyroid activity is needed—and subsequently create a state of hypothyroidism. The opposite, hyperthyroidism, can also occur, as thyroid destruction is seen in thyroiditis, and this may release stored T4 and T3 into the blood stream when the thyroid starts dying. This thyroid destruction may be associated with the energy blocking effects of the unsaturated fats and their iodized counterparts. The thyroid needs to eat too, and when pseudo-TSH tells it to get to work when there is no good food, it amounts to slave driving while starving.

The solution could partly be avoidance of unsaturated fats, especially polyunsaturated fat, as it has the most double bonds, making it the most problematic. But you may have a great amount of stored unsaturated fats—both iodized and not–in adipose tissue that may not be gone for several years depending on your metabolic rate and the dietary and lifestyle choices you make. The best way to get rid of stored iodized fat is to do so slowly so as to not overwhelm the thyroid. The more muscle you can build, the better, as muscle feasts on fat and will probably aid the disposal of the iodized fats. As long as your thyroid is unresponsive to endogenous TSH, it may be important to have T3 and T4 (mainly T3 though) available for supplementation when you eat food to keep all systems running smoothly. Have adequate saturated fat intake may make the body less prone to using unsaturated fat for energy, safely storing it in adipose tissue. So a little consumption of either coconut oil, dairy fat, or cocoa butter may help, but the primary type of calories needed to heal the thyroid are in the form of carbs. A high carbohydrate, lower fat diet may help you.

Iodine is an essential nutrient, but if administered in the wrong context, things can go very wrong.

https://chriskresser.com/iodine-for-hypothyroidism-like-gasoline-on-a-fire/

>>132733

what kind of a pathetic post is this? my bloods so great I got vampires knocking on my door asking for some.

>low bad cholesterol

>low but okay amount of "good" cholesterol

>no bad shit

>good amounts of all the vitamins and minerals that should be in there

>all levels in good ranges, or exceeding beyond to excellent ranges

want me to post my social security number too?

>>124338

Holy shit I hate this fucking picture.

>>124372

Chili cheese fries and cheese fries, but no poutine? What the fuck is this shit.

>>139303

You're advocating fucking poison. It doesn't matter if you add meatballs. Flax is one of the worst things you could have in your diet.

>>139303

Yu, Bin, et al. "Maternal dietary exposure to fiber during pregnancy and mammary tumorigenesis among rat offspring." International journal of cancer 119.10 (2006): 2279-2286.

https://doi.org/10.1002/ijc.22201

Khan, Galam, et al. "Maternal flaxseed diet during pregnancy or lactation increases female rat offspring's susceptibility to carcinogen-induced mammary tumorigenesis." Reproductive Toxicology 23.3 (2007): 397-406.

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.reprotox.2007.02.002

>>139316

>>139317

No one here's a pregnant woman. But if that's true, then just use half that amount of ground chia or something, or more nut butter.

>>139318

are you able to read? the offspring got poisoned during pregnancy and nursing meaning the mothers weren't able to filter it enough through their bodies. and you want to eat this stuff directly. fuck your liver

can't you eat rice instead of "rice protein"? jesus christ

>>125054

Hummus isn't naturally occurring, is it? What you mean raw hummus? Beans?

>>139319

whats the actual deal with flax seeds?

I see that shit advertised everywhere healthy and natural

>>144061

They're bad for test like soy

Maybe its good for women but men need not eat that junk

>>144076

what about quinoa and barley and stuff

So a question about corn, is the canned type alright to use?

I've been eating them as something to give a little bit more variety in my main meals, which is pork & beans 300g, then +50g of both peas and corn.

The pork & beans are great, lots protein and some micronutrients, peas another good alternative as well, and putting them together is not a bad idea, though I'm unsure about the corn.

Its rate just a bit higher carbs and protein, but are there any redflags on using these, specially since they processed like this?

>>144060

reporting in, tomorrow I'll try out a bone broth recipe, intend to take a daily cup in morning together with some powdered supplements,

fount this very interesting study:

https://www.alive.com/health/bone-broth-analysis-reader-research/

it sadly seems to be incomplete at the end, but basic tl;dr is:

there is nothing magical about bone broth, turns out that the amount of minerals is quite underwhelming

though it provides a rather large amount of collagen based protein, so it may indeed help a lot in lifting

the author also found that a good part of missing minerals could still be solid in sediments at the bottom of the pot

but unfortunately that's where the pages abruptly ends without conclusion.

>>144170

It probably has a lot of sugar, just read the nutritional label

>>144170

Corn, more so than other nonwheat grains, has effects beyond high-carbohydrate content. The zein protein of corn partially resembles the gliadin protein of wheat, meaning it can provoke some of the same health effects. It means, for example, that the zein protein of corn can initiate the first step of autoimmune diseases, conditions as far-ranging as rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, multiple sclerosis, autoimmune hepatitis, type 1 diabetes, psoriasis, eczema, cerebellar ataxia, and some forms of dementia.40, 41, 42 Corn is also a prominent trigger for allergies. As many as 90 percent of people who deal with cornstarch in the pharmaceutical industry (as filler in pills and capsules), food production, or agriculture develop allergic responses to corn over time.43

>40A. Fasano, “Zonulin, Regulation of Tight Junctions, and Autoimmune Diseases,” Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences 1258, no. 1 (July 2012): 25–33.

<41E. Vainio and E. Varionen, “Antibody Response against Wheat, Rye, Barley, Oats, and Corn: Comparison between Gluten-Sensitive Patients and Monoclonal Antigliadin Antibodies,” International Archives of Allergy and Immunology 106, no. 2 (February 1995): 134–38.

>42J. P. Ortiz-Sanchez, F. Cabrera-Chavez, and A. M. de la Barca, “Maize Prolamins Could Induce a Gluten-Like Cellular Immune Response in Some Celiac Disease Patients,” Nutrients 5, no. 10 (October 21, 2013): 4174–83.

<43M. P. Valencia Zavala, G. B. Vega Robledo, M. A. Sanchez Olivas, et al., “Maize (Zea Mays): Allergen or Toleragen? Participation of the Cereal in Allergic Disease and Positivity Incidence in Cutaneous Tests,” Revista Alergia México 53, no. 6 (November–December 2006): 207–11.

>>144299

The nutritional value isn't that bad, in comparison for example with a pea can from the same brand:

130g   Corn | Peas
Carbs   37g |  19g
Prot   8,6g | 7,8g
Fat    0,8g | 0,8g
Fiber  5,1g | 7,1g

And of course both of these should have some sugar and salt, plus preservatives added in the liquid.

Its a lot higher carb, but depending on you what you need, it could serve it well.

Now what I was doing is having a 50g serving of each, together with my main meal for balance.

>>144302

Now this is some interesting research and what I was wondering about, but does that also mean that whole wheat grain/flour is bad as well? Though it doesn't look like its the worst thing ever, just a small risk of worsening autoimmune diseases, if I got that right.

>>144305

>does that also mean that whole wheat grain/flour is bad as well?

Yes

See video

It's time to activate those almonds.

https://archive.fo/y1Aqf

>Researchers found that mens' sperm count, shape, and motility improved when they ate a mix of almonds, hazelnuts, and walnuts every day.

>>144307

This is Important

Holy crap, what an eye opener, I've noticed how good it gets just from depriving from daily bread, but holy crap to think it has such far reaching effects even to the point that it can worsen ADD and mental diseases.

Corn as you said also seem to be a danger thing, and I used to eat as a staple in my diet as well, and he even mentions rice at some point. Question is, what else do we need to steer way from?

Thanks nethernon, we need to compile a list of extremely danger foods to stay away from completely.

>>144294

Yea, or after ending a fast, you could drink it for a good soothing ease back into a normal diet. Bone broth when paired with high rep low weight calisthenics will give you joints of steel. Collagen is really good for joints obviously

>>145100

What was the deal there? I came to the conclusion it isn't that worth it.

It isn't that nutritious, it does have high protein and high collagen, which is the good part, but it's hard to do and takes a lot of work and time, is a bit disgusting to take and store, and isn't really available on stores in my country.

>>124383

>Here's the magnet to the Modernist Cuisine set, idk about Modernist Cuisine at Home though.

I found it, and it comes with a Kitchen Manual companion. Both books seem to be scanned at decent resolution. Here's the magnet link:

>magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4b29510f714509a1c2341f47472ea70efa64e225&dn=Modernist%20Cuisine%20-%20at%20Home&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3a6969&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.pirateparty.gr%3a6969&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3a6969&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fopentrackr.org%3a1337&tr=udp%3a%2f%2feddie4.nl%3a6969&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.zer0day.to%3a1337

Anyone got blender recipes? I remember one with peanut butter, banana, oats, and milk but I'm curious on the measurements