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inconnu 11/19/15 (Thu) 03:11:08 No.6301

Tried asking this on the other chan a couple times in vain, but I've always wondered about this line in Daisies - “This film is dedicated to those whose sole source of indignation is a messed-up trifle.” What exactly does this mean? What was it referring to? And how would you interpret the film as a whole? Also, post Czech new wave

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inconnu 11/19/15 (Thu) 06:26:00 No.6304

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I saw a version with the words "trampled-on trifle" which I interpreted to mean making a mountain out of a molehill, sweating the small stuff, etc. I felt that the final statement put the rest of the film's free-spirited anarchism into a reactionary context.

I forgot about the shots of bombed out buildings, but that ties the words to a condemnation of "uptight" Nazis or authority in general as we see the sort of destruction they've brought about.

I've never read about Vera Chytilova's intentions or other peoples' interpretations but that's what I felt about it.

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inconnu 11/26/15 (Thu) 16:37:48 No.6349

> Also, post Czech new wave

I'm wondering if any director keeps this style alive today?

Current Czech films do not seem to be very distinctive. But I haven't watched very many.

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inconnu 12/05/15 (Sat) 08:58:28 No.6396

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I like everything I've watched from Juraj Jakubisko. He's Slovak but that qualifies, right?

This one could be his most adventurous and surreal. It's more enjoyable for you if I don't reveal much more than that.

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inconnu 02/16/16 (Tue) 06:50:28 No.6706

Hey, does anyone know why so many Czech films are shot in full frame (long after other counties moved to widescreen)?

Was it because of financial limitations? Was it to format for TV? Or just a local stylistic choice?

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inconnu 02/17/16 (Wed) 17:08:21 No.6718

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I watched Fruit of Paradise the other day, also directed by Vera Chytilova. It was alright, but I think Daisies was able to keep my attention more because of the constant experimentation. Paradise had some of that but after the radical intro the rest of it was pretty standard stuff. Good, but not great.

The Czech New Wave produced some of my favorite films, there's something about their look, I'm not sure if its the film stock they used or what, but I can't get enough of it. Mala Morska Vila might be my favorite, its the Czech version of The Little Mermaid. It might have been brought up somewhere else on this board, I can't remember. But its production design and cinematography are really brilliant. A little bit similar to Valerie and Her Week of Wonders, which is more well known, but more fantastical and more of a children's fantasy. If anyone has any other recs for good Czech fantasy movies that would be much appreciated

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inconnu 02/19/16 (Fri) 08:29:58 No.6730

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>>6718

I like this movement very much too. I think a crucial part of the Czech New Wave aesthetic is Ester Krumbachova's art direction / production design / etc. I'm not even sure how to describe her distinctive style ... it's colorful with influences of nature, intentionally disordered, beautiful to watch.

She wrote many of the best films and directed one herself (Vražda Ing. Čerta) that I'm interested to watch

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inconnu 02/24/16 (Wed) 08:33:56 No.6787

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heres a nice pdf, and czech critics top list from http://www.csfd.cz/kanon-filmu/filtr-domaci/?year=2007

1. Hoří, má panenko (1967) (Československo / Itálie, 1967, Miloš Forman)

2. Marketa Lazarová (1967) (Československo, 1967, František Vláčil)

3. Obchod na korze (1965) (Československo, 1965, Ján Kadár / Elmar Klos)

4. Ostře sledované vlaky (1966) (Československo, 1966, Jiří Menzel)

5. Spalovač mrtvol (1968) (Československo, 1968, Juraj Herz)

6. Intimní osvětlení (1965) (Československo, 1965, Ivan Passer)

7. Limonádový Joe aneb Koňská opera (1964) (Československo, 1964, Oldřich Lipský)

8. Případ pro začínajícího kata (1969) (Československo, 1969, Pavel Juráček)

9. Všichni dobří rodáci (1968) (Československo, 1968, Vojtěch Jasný)

10. Extase (1932) (Československo / Rakousko, 1932, Gustav Machatý)

11. Údolí včel (1967) (Československo, 1967, František Vláčil)

12. Démanty noci (1964) (Československo, 1964, Jan Němec)

13. Lásky jedné plavovlásky (1965) (Československo, 1965, Miloš Forman)

14. Sedmikrásky (1966) (Československo, 1966, Věra Chytilová)

15. Daleká cesta (1948) (Československo, 1948, Alfréd Radok)

16. Kočár do Vídně (1966) (Československo, 1966, Karel Kachyňa)

17. O slavnosti a hostech (1966) (Československo, 1966, Jan Němec)

18. Romance pro křídlovku (1966) (Československo, 1966, Otakar Vávra)

19. Adelheid (1969) (Československo, 1969, František Vláčil)

20. Černý Petr (1963) (Československo, 1963, Miloš Forman)

21. Obrazy starého sveta (1972) (Československo, 1972, Dušan Hanák)

22. Slnko v sieti (1962) (Československo, 1962, Štefan Uher)

23. Starci na chmelu (1964) (Československo, 1964, Ladislav Rychman)

24. Ucho (1970) (Československo, 1970, Karel Kachyňa)

25. Žert (1968) (Československo, 1968, Jaromil Jireš)

26. Až přijde kocour (1963) (Československo, 1963, Vojtěch Jasný)

27. Cesta do pravěku (1955) (Československo, 1955, Karel Zeman)

28. Kladivo na čarodějnice (1969) (Československo, 1969, Otakar Vávra)

29. Rozmarné léto (1967) (Československo, 1967, Jiří Menzel)

30. Vynález zkázy (1958) (Československo, 1958, Karel Zeman)

31. Erotikon (1929) (Československo, 1929, Gustav Machatý)

32. Skřivánci na niti (1969) (Československo, 1969, Jiří Menzel)

33. Návrat idiota (1999) (Česko / Německo, 1999, Saša Gedeon)

34. Nebeští jezdci (1968) (Československo, 1968, Jindřich Polák)

35. Petrolejové lampy (1971) (Československo, 1971, Juraj Herz)

36. Holubice (1960) (Československo, 1960, František Vláčil)

37. Sen noci svatojánské (1959) (Československo, 1959, Jiří Trnka)

38. Staré pověsti české (1952) (Československo, 1952, Jiří Trnka)

39. Ecce homo Homolka (1969) (Československo, 1969, Jaroslav Papoušek)

40. Něco z Alenky (1988) (Československo / Švýcarsko, 1988, Jan Švankmajer)

41. Valerie a týden divů (1970) (Československo, 1970, Jaromil Jireš)

42. Smuteční slavnost (1969) (Československo, 1969, Zdenek Sirový)

43. Transport z ráje (1962) (Československo, 1962, Zbyněk Brynych)

44. Zbehovia a pútnici (1968) (Československo / Itálie, 1968, Juraj Jakubisko)

45. Den sedmý, osmá noc (1969) (Československo, 1969, Jan Kačer / Evald Schorm)

46. Návrat ztraceného syna (1966) (Československo, 1966, Evald Schorm)

47. Vtáčkovia, siroty a blázni (1969) (Československo / Francie, 1969, Juraj Jakubisko)

48. Vojtěch, řečený sirotek (1989) (Československo, 1989, Zdeněk Tyc)

49. Vyšší princip (1960) (Československo, 1960, Jiří Krejčík)

50. Zahrada (1995) (Slovensko / Česko, 1995, Martin Šulík)

51. Postřižiny (1980) (Československo, 1980, Jiří Menzel)

52. Obecná škola (1991) (Československo, 1991, Jan Svěrák)

53. Slávnosť v botanickej záhrade (1969) (Československo, 1969, Elo Havetta)

54. Ovoce stromů rajských jíme (1969) (Československo / Belgie, 1969, Věra Chytilová)

55. Kolja (1996) (Česko / Velká Británie, 1996, Jan Svěrák)

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inconnu 02/24/16 (Wed) 08:35:43 No.6788

it's better if you click the link because those untranslated names are rough

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inconnu 02/24/16 (Wed) 09:01:13 No.6789

>>6787

Oh boy

That's great for the list maniacs

Thanks a lot

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inconnu 02/28/16 (Sun) 19:50:11 No.6804

>>6349

There are few decent films from 2000+, but not in this style as far as I know (which isn't that much, so don't take my word for it). The conditions that led to the Czech new wave just aren't there anymore.

>>6706

My guess would be that communism/lack of consumer culture slowed the development down and even in the 90s it took some time to get up to "speed". But you'd have to compare it to other post communist countries to have any kind of certainty about my hypothesis.

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inconnu 02/28/16 (Sun) 22:13:48 No.6807

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>>6804

Thanks. I noticed Kytice a.k.a. Wild Flowers (2000) has a similar style. It was make by Jakubisko's production company. I see they've made several visually appealing films that seem to build upon New Wave aesthetics. I've wanted to see Bathory for a while.

http://www.jakubiskofilm.com/en/movies/

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inconnu 02/29/16 (Mon) 15:46:24 No.6813

>>6807

Yeah, Bathory wasn't bad. Not exceptionally good, but not bad.

I didn't enjoy Kytice much. Not that it's bad film on its own, but it's hard to make a classical/shot movie based on poems like those without loosing something. Though that's not really relevant for someone who can't read the original poems.

also some resources:

http://uloz.to/ - this is where cz normies go to pirate shit. Usually YIFI-tier at best but lots of stuff is hard to find elsewhere (maybe except private trackers?).

https://war-forum.net/index.php - not exclusively focused on cz/sk stuff, but still probably better than most English websites - if you can get by with translator. You have to make couple posts if you want to see the important parts of the forum.

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inconnu 03/01/16 (Tue) 02:44:19 No.6815

>>6813

> I didn't enjoy Kytice much

That's too bad. I was optimistic about it.

Thanks for the links. I tried cztorrent a couple years ago which had some Czech rarities mixed in with the regular mainstream Hollywood releases. But the selection was pretty limited.

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inconnu 08/02/16 (Tue) 21:21:39 No.7651

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Is anyone able to translate this text? It might be Slovak.

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inconnu 08/09/16 (Tue) 16:26:29 No.7721

>>6301

a trifle is a dessert with fruit, sponge cake(usually flavored with liquor or fortified wine), whipped cream and custard. it's not easy to make well because there is a lot that can go wrong with each component.

i think the dedication is referring to the bourgeoisie who might have never come across anything more terrible to them than a badly made dessert

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inconnu 08/13/16 (Sat) 18:17:26 No.7737

>>7721

that makes a lot more sense

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inconnu 08/16/16 (Tue) 23:05:26 No.7756

>>7651

Seems like a 16-19 cent. Moravian or Slovak dialect. (probably the latter)

I'm a complete layman, but I can try.

richtár = ~local law enforcement (unused/archaic)

vojna - can mean "military service" or "war" (a bit archaic meaning)

Goes [rychtár] under the window(s), orders/calls [no explicit subject] into military service,

[onomatopoeia, possibly of carpentry?], orders/calls [.... same as above]

Go you, oldest daughter, go fight for father,

[same as previous verse], go fight for father!

I, father, I am not going, I won't fight

[...], I won't fight

[same 2 verses for middle daughter]

Go you, youngest daughter, go fight for father,

[same as previous verse], go fight for father!

I, father, I will go, I will fight

[...], I will fight

As they [probably "sew"] her clothes, all girls wept,

[...], all girls wept

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inconnu 08/18/16 (Thu) 06:58:09 No.7763

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>>7756

wow, thank you!

Those pngs comes from Tri dcery / Three Daughters. I think you guys would like this one

The film had a character who kept singing a song, and those were the lyrics (on the screen before the opening credits). I did not make the connection before. You can hear him in this clip.

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inconnu 03/20/17 (Mon) 06:46:11 No.9243

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>>6787

I'm filling in some of my gaps on this (great) list.

I just saw The Shop on Main Street, a story of a small Slovak town dealing with social changes caused by World War II. The film deals with the Holocaust which probably boosted it's reputation - it won Czechoslovakia's first Oscar. This subject matter may come with baggage (for better or worse) since there are a lot of Holocaust movies by now. But it's not hard to set that aside and enjoy this film on its own merits.

Two more random thoughts:

- Juraz Herz worked on The Shop on Main Street as an assistant. I was surprised at how many elements of this film influenced The Cremator.

- This film reminded me how much I like the narrative construct where a big project is continuously prepared/built in the background of the main action. You witness the project slowly come together as the film progresses - with a payoff near the climax. I don't know if there's a literary term for this storytelling technique, but it's a great way to keep the audience interested.

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inconnu 05/31/17 (Wed) 01:29:30 No.9816

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I keep seeing these interesting movies that were directed by Oldřich Lipský. This is Lemonade Joe, a Czech western musical comedy

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inconnu 06/22/17 (Thu) 07:53:56 No.10024

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Senses of Cinema has three new essays on Juraj Herz films

I highly recommend Morgiana

http://sensesofcinema.com/2017/cteq/morgiana/

http://archive.is/JAZsP

Panna a netvor is okay but not essential

http://sensesofcinema.com/2017/cteq/beauty-and-the-beast/

http://archive.is/h0OPI

I've not watched The Junk Shop

http://sensesofcinema.com/2017/cteq/the-junk-shop/

http://archive.is/OWMjV

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inconnu 05/07/18 (Mon) 13:43:43 No.12222

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Here is a trailer for the new restoration of Diamonds of the Night

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inconnu 08/15/18 (Wed) 23:23:20 No.12703

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Generally I love anything with:

1-a village

2-plenty of fire

3-black and white widescreen

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inconnu 08/23/18 (Thu) 05:39:57 No.12735

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Comfy af

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inconnu 02/06/19 (Wed) 23:06:42 No.14168

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>>12703

Nice music by Ilja Zeljenka. I'd like to find some of his OSTs, but I don't know if any of them were released. He was composer for >>7763 too.

I remember hearing that Zdenek Liska's widow would not give permission for soundtracks, because she said the films were the optimal (and thus only) way to experience his music. I guess that changed a bit with the release of Morgiana and a couple others. I'd like to hear more though...Liska was as prolific as Morricone IIRC.

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