No.10667 [Last50 Posts]
Can /film/ recommend me some good slow-paced, meditative and spiritual кино for me to watch?
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No.10668
The first director I thought of was Ming-liang Tsai who is influenced by Buddhism. Have you seen anything from him?
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No.10670
>>10668
I've got torrents of most of his films, but I haven't seen any of them yet because I was unsure of which one to start with. Which one would you recommend?
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No.10672
>>10670
You could start with some of his shorter works like Walker and No No Sleep. They are more experimental, no plot, simply meditative experiences.
I haven't seen too many of his other films. I was going to say The Hole was not too impressive. Yet thinking back I did like some aspects. I might watch The Wayward Cloud next.
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No.10673
>>10672
I have No No Sleep on my computer, so I'll give that a watch first. Have you seen Stray Dogs? That's one which I've heard a lot of good things about.
Do you have any other recs for filmmakers/films?
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No.10674
Tarkovsky, Dreyer, Bresson, Bergman
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No.10675
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No.10676
>>10674
>Tarkovsky
I've seen all of Tarkovsky's films and love them.
>Dreyer
I've got a few of his films torrented (Ordet, Passion of Joan of Arc), which would you recommend I start with?
>Bresson
I've seen Pickpocket and L'Argent, and whilst I found them impressive, I couldn't connect with them emotionally at all. I've heard Au Hasard Balthazar is a very emotionally powerful film, so perhaps I should give that a try?
>Bergman
Really like Bergman, seen most of his films. Been meaning to give his miniseries a watch.
If you can think of any other filmmakers like Tarkovsky and Bergman, then I'd definitely like to give them a shot.
>>10675
Never heard of this but it looks like exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for, thanks for the recommendation.
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No.10677
>>10676
Not him but I would recommed watching Au hasard balthazar, Mouchette and Journal d'un curé de campagne. They might not be meditative so to say, but they are definitely Bresson's best imo.
Have you seen Angelopoulos' or Tarr's work? They've made the kind of stuff you might be looking for.
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No.10678
>>10677
>Not him but I would recommed watching Au hasard balthazar, Mouchette and Journal d'un curé de campagne.
I'll definitely give them a try, thanks for the recommendation.
>Have you seen Angelopoulos' or Tarr's work?
I've seen Werckmeister Harmonies and I loved that. I've just been unsure which film of his to watch next. I'm inclined to give Satantango a try, but its length is pretty intimidating.
As for Angelopoulos, I'm only familiar with him in name only. Which of his films would you recommend?
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No.10679
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No.10680
>>10678
You could watch Satantango or Damnation next, both are great choices. Satantango might indeed be a little too overwhelming in one sitting, I myself watched it in the span of 4 days.
With Angelopoulos I would start with Landscape in the mist, the still in this post >>10677 is from that movie. If you feel like watching more of his work, Ulysses Gaze, Eternity and a day and Travelling players are all good films to continue with.
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No.10681
>>10679
This list is great, thanks for this
>>10680
The only films of comparable length I've seen are Syberberg's films, and I had to watch them in several sittings too
I think I'll give Damnation a go first and I'll torrent Landscape in the Mist. The stills from it look beautiful.
Thanks for the recs.
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No.10684
Goodbye Dragon Inn and Landscape Suicide are my favorite films of this type.
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No.10689
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>>10667
"If these things are just part of our natural environment why do we think of them as evil? Why do they horrify us so?"
The Ninth Configuration - by William Peter Blatty
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No.10691
>>10684
I have Goodbye Dragon Inn on my computer. I'll probably watch it after I've seen No No Sleep.
Landscape Suicide seems interesting. Are there any other James Benning films you can recommend?
>>10689
I've never gotten around to watching Ninth Configuration, despite it looking interesting. Which cut of the film should I watch?
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No.10694
>>10691
From IMDB:
There are five different versions of this film, with various running times from 99 up to 140 minutes. Director William Peter Blatty disowned all versions except one: his approved cut runs 118 minutes and is the version that was originally released theatrically in the USA. This version is available on DVD.
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No.10700
>>10689
I heard about it recently but still need to get it. This stunning image sold me.
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No.10737
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No.10754
>>10737
Stalker(1979, Andrés Tarcóvquez) might be a bit too obsucre
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No.10755
>>10694
Well, I will track down that version and give it a watch.
>>10737
Seen all of Tarkovsky's works and I love them. If you can think of any similar films to Stalker, then that would be much appreciated.
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No.10768
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No.10957
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Peter B Hutton - At Sea
This is an experimental documentary. It is truly silent so that you simply focus on the images
<Renowned for his exquisitely photographed land- and cityscapes, Peter Hutton's latest film is an epic story of the birth, life, and death of the modern container ship. Shot over a period of three years, At Sea opens on a hyper-modern South Korean shipyard, where supertankers loom over the workers who build them, then journeys through the swells and storms of the North Atlantic, and closes on a maritime grave in Bangladesh where ship breakers scrap the beached leviathans piece by piece under medieval conditions. Beautifully shot and keenly observed, Hutton's film showcases the environmental and human dramas that play out in the life cycle of this invisible engine of globalization and modern-day Noah's Ark
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No.10971
The films of Franco Piavoli definitely. Start with Nostos: Il Ritorno
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No.10972
>>10957
>>10971
thanks !
new to me.
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No.11078
A good blog for this is https://unspokencinema.blogspot.co.uk/
with a comprehensive list of "contemplative" films at https://unspokencinema.blogspot.co.uk/2006/10/chronology.html | http://web.archive.org/web/20171125083435/https://unspokencinema.blogspot.co.uk/2006/10/chronology.html
Tentative Chronology for (BROAD) Contemplative Cinema
Maybe the term "Contemplative Cinema" is a little nebulous and confusing, but hopefully the following films give a better idea of what is this sort of trend, opposed to conventional narration. This tentative list doesn't cover all territories and aspects yet, so please edit/correct/add any complementary information to the list.
(in red : strict model, see the minimum profile here, and the genealogy map here)
7 sub-families of C.C.C. (Contemporary Contemplative Cinema) with their figureheads :
[A] Contemplative Documentary (Lumière-Sokurov-Benning)
[B] Non-Actors (Flaherty-Costa)
[C] Contemplative Mundanity (Tsai-Bartas)
[D] Laconic Conversation (Tarkovsky-Jancso-Tarr)
[E] Mainstream Contemplation (Angelopoulos-Wong Kar wai)
[F] Stylized Contemplation (Kaurismaki-Andersson)
[G] Fantasized Contemplation (Barney)
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No.11079
>>11078
>Mainstream Contemplation
>Angelopoulos
WHEEZE.
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No.11082
Pic related
Very much inspired by Tarkovsky with a beautiful ending
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No.11083
>>11082
That looks good but I only find a 700MB. do you know of something better?
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No.11086
>>11083
Nah the DVDrip seems to be it afaik
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No.11088
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No.11096
>>11086
700MB is okay, maybe, for the short running time of 67 min.
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No.11099
The op pic has reminded me of “Three days” by Sharunas Bartas.
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No.11128
>>10689
I don't see how this film is meditative at all. It's almost slapstick; it plays like a comedy, despite one or two moments of thoughtful dialogue. Not to mention that it's insulting to anyone with even a basic knowledge of psychiatry or mental illness.
If you're interested in documentaries, check out some Werner Herzog. Lots of beautiful shots with choral soundtracks, can recommend Inferno and the one about cave paintings in France.
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No.11129
>>11099
>>11099
I still haven't watched anything from Bartas. Do you like him? Is Three Days a good introduction, or something else?
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No.11136
>>11129
I've only seen A Casa. Amazing aesthetic. He really has an eye for truly interesting shots.
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No.11144
>>11136
Cool, I'll try to watch both
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No.11307
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No.11312
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No.11322
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Theory: This thread is popular because anyone posting on /film/ has above-average patience
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No.11630
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>>11307
related:
Paul Schrader on Revisiting Transcendental Style in Film | TIFF 2017
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No.11631
>>11307
>>11630
Watching the Paul Schrader video reminded me of Baxter Vera Baxer with Delphine Seyrig, written and directed by Marguerite Duras. I didn't enjoy it because I was expecting good things from Duras but "nothing happened". I would like to hear if anyone has a different opinion of it.
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No.11632
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No.11633
>>11632
I think this film is chaotic, not meditative.
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No.11870
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>>10667
I thought Spring Summer Autumn Winter and Spring would be the first film suggested to you, but it wasn't mentioned.
This is the definitive meditation movie. No dialogue, all takes place on a peaceful lake. Heavy buddhist influence.
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No.11872
>>11870
The name always made me think it was some Asian family drama, oops
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No.12015
uncle boonmee who can recall his past lives
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No.12018
>>11870
>Heavy buddhist influence.
not really? i thought kim ki duk didn't research anything about buddhism and just made everything up
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No.12030
>>12018
Perhaps you were looking for a more direct and glaringly obvious explanation of Buddhism in it? It definitely captures the heart of its lessons.
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No.12090
Here is an article about the increased use of landscape in certain types of films. The article says that Babette Mangolte's The Sky on Location is "painfully underrated". I wish I could find it because it looks beautiful.
Why Are Artist Filmmakers Turning to Landscape?
A genre more associated with painting, an interest in the environment grounds a number of recent artists’ films
https://frieze.com/article/why-are-artist-filmmakers-turning-landscape
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No.12642
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No.12645
>>12641
Wow, this one looks absolutely incredible. Thanks for sharing.
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No.13267
Tsai Ming-liang has a new film and a new interview about it : https://thefilmstage.com/features/tsai-ming-liang-on-your-face-the-cinematic-power-of-close-ups-and-teaming-with-ryuichi-sakamoto/
(Maybe it's best if you watch it before you read all about his thought process)
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No.14369
Some thoughts from director Nathaniel Dorsky on "devotional cinema"
http://nathanieldorsky.net/About
>In his book Devotional Cinema (2003), Dorsky writes of the long-standing link between art and health as well as the transformative potential of watching film. He also writes of the limitations of film when its vision is subservient to an idea or representative of language description, which can describe a world but does not actually see it.
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No.14374
Matka Joanna od aniolów AKA Mother Joan of the Angels by Jerzy Kawalerowicz is an excellent film. If you like Tarkovsky, Tarr or Dreyer, you'll like this film
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No.14544
A meditation on a post-human world.
Very good.
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No.14546
>>14544
Cool, I haven't seen that one but I recently got into Geyrhalter
He's a good director for this thread.
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No.15477
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No.15489
>>15477
Very nice find. Visually stunning film with beautiful recreations of famous paintings. The soundtrack is also very nice (I particularly liked the Gigli song at Frame 2 and the Madame Butterfly aria at Frame 6). The songs really fit the mood of the gorgeous recreations of paintings.
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No.15490
>>15477
Could also be called: 24 Screen Savers: The Kiarostami Collection
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No.15491
>>15477
Are any of the Criterion bonus features for this DVD available online? I looked on the internet and it says that an interview with Kiarostami's son Ahmad, film critic Godfrey Cheshire and the documentary "Print: In Memory of Abbas Kiarostami" are included on the Criterion DVD.
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No.15640
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No.15644
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No.15647
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No.15654
Have you seen anything from Nuri Bilge Ceylan before? He has great pastoral stuff
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No.15656
How do I appreciate slow cinema? Watched some of Vive L'Amour, got bored...maybe 2x speed?
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No.15657
>>15656
I don't like all of the slow cinema I watch. I wary about watching art installations as if they're a normal film. It seems like they are intended to be screened in a gallery with people milling around, not so much by someone on their couch doing nothing else.
Usually it takes a while for me to get into the "rhythm" of a slow film, if that makes sense. Then I will either love the film for being a transcendent experience or hate it for wasting my time. The good stuff keeps me interested enough to keep exploring other titles.
James Benning for example I appreciate how he finds unique locations to perfectly compose a frame. My eyes move around the image much like I'd do with a photograph. Then as a "finale" to the brief experience something interesting may happen within the frame.
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No.15665
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