No.949921
I have watched tons of anime that was supposed to scare me but only a couple have actually managed to do it. I honestly cant think of any horror that is actually scary besides Higurashi When They Cry and Shiki. I did like Malice@Doll too (while it is original) but that wasnt that scary and (thanks to it being an early 3d anime), it looks terribly dated. What seems to be "scary" according to most of the industries eyes is:
>tons of blood and gore =! scary
>characters look like monsters =! scary
>is focused on the supernatural =! scary
I mean, where is the feeling of dread? Where is the immersion? There is none and that goes for most anime under the "horror" umbrella
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No.949924
>>949921
>I have watched tons of anime
Animes. I don't want to be a grammar nazi, but still.
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No.949928
>>949921
Shounen, without a doubt:
>Every second arc is tournament arc with zero plot
>Constant "well, you raped all my relatives and tortured my friends to death, but I beat you up so we're fine now"
>MCs tend to be similar/carbon copies
>muh friendship is magic
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No.949933
>>949924
Anime is plural and single.
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No.949934
>>949921
Harems with a MC that has an erectile dysfunction.
>Mc-kun pound me right in the manko
<No thanks, bro
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No.949935
>>949928
>rage = win
>get defeated despite rage
>recover to full health in the 5 minutes your friends are fighting the bad guy in your stead and join them with a power increase to boot
All of the "best" shounen are like this and it's hot shit.
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No.949936
>>949921
>Higurashi When They Cry
That's a visual novel.
>Shiki
That's an actual novel.
>Malice@Doll
Will have to check that out.
>What seems to be "scary" according to most of the industries eyes is:
<tons of blood and gore =! scary
<characters look like monsters =! scary
<is focused on the supernatural =! scary
>I mean, where is the feeling of dread? Where is the immersion? There is none and that goes for most anime under the "horror" umbrella
Had a similar discussion on the bunker a few months ago, but that was in relation to video games: http://archive.md/rDEYZ
Actually, looking over the manga that I have read, the only one that really had any feeling of horror to it was the original Devilman, and that was primarily because the final volumes dealt with how the demons played on humanity's fear, with the public proceeding to lead a witch hunt against anyone and everyone. And, speaking of which, the final volume of the original Hell Girl had a similar situation too. Actually, speaking of which, of the two, Hell Girl actually had a better feeling of dread to it overall with watching the story unfold, with everything leading up to the poor sucker getting whisked away, and everything afterwards with how characters have to deal with the fact that they literally did just "murder" someone (Or watched/know someone else just "murdered" someone).
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No.949938
>>949936
>those are novels
Actually, no. They were later adapted as anime.
>>949921
Le Portrait de Petit Cossette might be the most interesting ova I have ever seen but I would not classify it as "scary". I think the real problem is that the genres classification (it can mean the feeling of disgusting or loathing after an event happened) does not require it to scare people so often times you dont know exactly what you are getting. But, maybe that isnt a problem at all. Maybe by stripping away subjectively at what is and isnt scary actually loses horrors allure? Still, I do agree that anime falls short in horror fiction and I think it could be much better. Most horror in anime is just cliche
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No.949940
>>949938
Basically this. Just watch mermaid forest and you will see how repulsed you are by what happens in that anime.
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No.949943
Anything WESTERN pandering! The actual genre can vary but the same elements of pozz are all there and you can tell it's different
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No.949947
>>949943
Jesus how horrifying.
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No.949962
>>949947
!?
I know right!? Have you watched Carol & Tuesday? It's exactly what I'mt alking about and it was actually so bad one of the worst things I've ever seen in my life
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No.949963
>>949962
Some anon said it flopped horribly, so there's some hope left .
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No.949965
>>949943
Back to >>>/tv/ where you belong.
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No.949975
>>949933
I believe it's ahnymaes
>>949921
Japan has different taste for horror. It's generally shit taste, but that doesn't make the genre itself bad. Unless you meant the worst handled genre? In which case
>>949934
wins. Particularly if the mc is a spineless beta with all the girls slobbering over him. let's get real, this is just because the authors wanted to write about what they think are cute and/or badass girls and just use a generic guy to push the story along, and not to despoil the waifus
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No.950406
>>949943
Not only is it western pandering, it is the kind of stuff I'd expect a 12 year old girl would like.
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No.950728
>>949934
Harems are the worst, yes
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No.950751
>>949963
>didnt get his name wrong
0/10
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No.950756
It was at first Isekai but then I came to accept it as a blanket word, but now it's Kemono, the most degenerate.
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No.950761
shounen ai is pretty gay, even fujobait sports anime is better
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No.950792
>>950406
well it is a show for 12 year olds.
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No.950795
>>950792
*Well it is a show for wasted talents
Ftfy
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No.950853
>>950795
Jealousy STOP! Just because it makes billions more yen a year than whatever cuckime you care to name and has better animation and writing and seiyuu cast and nonstop sequels doesn't make your favorite shows any worse OK?
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No.950866
>>949921
I hate series where every character is a "cute" girl for no reason. Girls und Panzer comes to mind. Anything that's like that, I automatically hate.
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No.950888
Speaking of horror this reminded me of Souboutei Kowasu Beshi which I started reading on a whim, at first it was really creeping me out with some of its art but it's constant tone shifts between horror and lighthearted humor (including the art style) really threw me off and after a few chapters it felt like it was turning into a battle shounen.
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No.950904
>>950888
>Souboutei
>horrror
Not sure why you ever though it was going to be proper horror when the guys in your pic try to carpet bomb the spoopy manor pretty much right at the first chapter.
It really didn't seem like it was pretending it was anything other than
REMOVE THE THING FROM PREMISES
from the start.
Try Higanjima for something that tries to be horror but ends up being a complete clusterfuck.
>I am MC I must genocide vampires after getting stuck on the vampire island
>lemme show my copypasta'd murderface every 2-5 chapters
>oh fuck my katana got thrown off, good thing I specced into misc. weapons and can equip these conveniently placed wood logs
>everything is fucked up, this was a terrible idea, I am now literally pissing and shitting my pants
>repeat with minor progress for 300+ chapters
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No.950912
>>950904
>REMOVE THE THING FROM PREMISES
What if I'd like to fug The Thing?
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No.950913
>>949921
>What is in your opinion the worst genre?
A comedic slice of life in a school setting with cute girls doing cute things. "Worst" is hard to apply to anything but this is high on my list for sure.
Now I'm not opposed to any of those things individually, even 'Sakamoto desu ga?' manages to encompass the first 3 with great success. I think what gets to me if you add 'cute girls doing cute things' is that all humor will be derived from that.
Witch Hat Atelier is a good example of how to weave 'cute girls doing cute things' into a great story where it's not the main focus but a nice wholesome relief between some of the darker themes.
Also this >>949934
>Harems with a MC that has an erectile dysfunction.
But not exclusively to harems.
>>949928
>>949935
>Shounen
There are some good shounen but fuck all those mentioned tropes. And you forgot all enemies are either:
>One-dimensional hedonistic puppy rapists (but that still need to be forgiven or the MC would be just as bad as them)
or
>Overly sympathetic orphan who was sold to slavers by their parents and nearly raped to death, fought through it all to protect a younger sibling and then forced to do the antagonist's bidding because aforementioned sibling is currently held hostage (will join the MC after getting beat up)
>>949943
>Anything WESTERN pandering!
Kemono Michi is pretty good and I don't even like wrestling.
On the other side of the spectrum we have endless eastern pandering
>Fantasy setting
>There's a mysterious kingdom in the east with weird swords and customs
>Black hair is exotic
>Muh rice, muh soy, muh [insert misc. Japanese dish], muh hotspring, muh kotatsu
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No.950914
>>950913
>Kemono Michi is pretty good and I don't even like wrestling.
Anon, nips are crazy about wrestling, maybe not as much as in burgerland, but it's still referenced every now and then in anime.
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No.950915
>>950914
>>950913
Western wrestling is trash. Asia is the true inheritor of wrestling. The fact that faggots think wrestling is a West-exclusive thing is an utter embarrassment. How much of a newfag do you have to be?
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No.950917
>>950915
>>950914
Since I'm not interested in wrestling my knowledge is obviously pretty shallow.
>Asia is the true inheritor of wrestling.
Does the same go for being the true inheritors of Germany? The japs seem crazy about adding German references to their fiction, meanwhile Germans are self-hating cucks.
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No.951113
>>949921
Monster is a good horror anime
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No.951117
>>949943
Panty & stocking is infinitely worse.
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No.951121
>>951117
P&S revels in gross and crude vulgarity, whereas C&T pushes western current year propaganda basically every other episode. I don't get how people can even pretend to like them when they're BOTHc omplete garbage!
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No.951171
I find a lot of SOL's boring. I recently watched an episode of Dear S and hated it. Only modern SOLs that I enjoyed from the top of my head are Yuru Yuri and Gochumon, and even those I prefer the manga. SOL's are just "muh cute girls doing cute vapid things" and Japanese humor is terrible. If I wanted to rip through CGDCT, I'd just read a visual novel. I have more things to do than to watch the same boring crap over and over again. Please make something more interesting instead of pandering to waifufags and otaku who will forget about the show in like 3 months.
I also tend to dislike shounen and 2deep4u seinen for the same reasons. I cannot take it seriously when anime, or any "toy" medium trys to input 'deep' philosophy or deep crap into the show. I believe that people are extremely slow when they call anime 'literary masterpieces'. Go read a book retard.
I also hate harem anime. It's always some retard who has no personality and no actual characteristics (literally) at all. Might as well just read a VN where the protag has no face and you're supposed to self insert. A lot of the girls personality in harem anime is terrible too. Pure unadulterated vanilla is the only answer.
Shows from LN's are usually terrible too. Only slightly interesting one from memory may be Spice and Wolf. LNs are fanfiction in novel format, and just as terrible too.
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No.951175
>>951171
>watch CGDCT based SoL when you don't like CGDCT
>don't enjoy it
very surprising outcome
try watching Silver Spoon or Usagi Drop or Planetes or NHK ni youkoso
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No.951299
>>949921
The correct answer is yaoishit,watching cute girls doing cute things will never get old
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No.951360
>>949963
I need more boarman.
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No.951379
>>951175
I was being pretty harsh in my comments, I wish to apologize for that. At the time of writing, I was simply cranky and sleepy.
It's not that I don't like CGDCT. Nanoha, Cardcaptor Sakura, Hidamari Sketch, Girls Und Panzer, and a lot of other anime also encompass the CGDCT technically, and I love those. It's probably just that after watching anime for years on end, the constant tropes tire me. It seems that a lot of CGDCT never stray away from formula, as most anime do, they are not alone. However, it's even more boring when they do it because it's simply "highschool girls do funny thing" with simply nothing happening, along with the same jokes over and over again. If I want that easy going feeling that SOLs bring out, I'd rather read it in a manga than actually watch it.
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No.951414
>>950917
I've been saying Japan is the last european culture for years. Absolutely.
>go to France
>the stores all have their names written in Arabic
>watch Japanese cartoon
>it's about a dude named Reinhardt in Space Prussia destroying some frenchmen
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No.951502
>>951379
>Nanoha, Cardcaptor Sakura
These are mahou shoujo
>Girls Und Panzer
This is a sports anime
Neither has any real relation to a show like Hidamari Sketch other than featuring a cast of cute girls (which most anime do). You can just say you don't care for most SoL.
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No.951505
>the worst genre
anything moeshit
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No.951518
Isekai, easily. And yet it's the highest rated.
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No.951616
>>951502
They are technically CGDCT too, especially since CGDCT isn't an actual genre. I am not only talking sole SOL CGDCT.
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No.951630
>>951616
What's the utility in a term that doesn't really describe anything about a show, then? Is Lain a CGDCT show? It feature a cast of largely cute girls, that do do cute things.
>I am not only talking sole SOL CGDCT.
Are you sure? Your last post made it sound like you were.
>>951379
>If I want that easy going feeling that SOLs bring out
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No.953766
Battle harem/ Chuuni supernatural fight bullshit. Cringe af.
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No.953833
Harem. The entire point of them is originally to be adapted from dating sims/VNs with multiple girls, which doesn't really work. After a while, the genre started spinning off in it's own direction, often forgetting the entire point of the original games. The protag choosing one girl and the payoff from that.
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No.955498
If you want horror search for psychological instead
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No.955510
Any anime where the MC is a scrawny brat between 14 and 16 years old that looks even vaguely like something from pic related. I used to tolerate them at some extent but once I realized how predominant they are I feel nothing but disgust when I spot one of them in some promotional art. I know the main focus of anime is escapism, but why am I forced to self-insert myself into a guy that is just as pathetic(if not worse) as my real self?
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No.955789
>>949921
Highschool Dramaromcoms. Stuff like love is war.
Watching them feels like I'm reading one of those drama magazines for teen girls.
>>953833
>The protag choosing one girl and the payoff from that.
I think that's the bigger issue with VNs going to anime. In the VNs 99% of the time you are exactly in the MCs shoes.
Watching the protag feels weird even though I'm know I'm supposed to be self-inserting.
>>955510
This, around 18 I started really hating shitty MCs because they were completely unrelatable.
I like Diablo and Tomoki. MCs need test.
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