49576b No.2134 [View All]
As requested by VQC:
"Is there anyone more practical with access to 3D printing as we can run the sonoluminescence thread in parallel and it will be quite rewarding to build a fully functioning cold fusion generator?
Perfectly safe, boils water.
Thought it may be fun for those who prefer to build stuff."
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092007 No.2860
>>2857
Faith… See this is where there can be issues. I agree that faith is an important part of any human endeavor. It really is. It takes a lot of faith for early humans to decide to cross a great desert for the hopes of a better home on the other side.
It takes even more faith to do the same across the ocean. It takes faith to start a company with the hopes of making a profit for yourself and your family. What requires almost zero faith and instead requires hard work, skills, information and resources is building something physical in the real world.
Not much faith required at all IF YOU UNDERSTAND how the system works. Now if you have no idea how it works (me right now) then you can't start building yet you have to instead gather more information and resources.
I speak this way with such confidence because I have done this many many times. It is something I do well. I have never been a math person without extreme effort but I am practically a clairvoyant god when it comes to machines. I have fixed them, designed them, built them, modified them and run them to failure in many conditions. I have studied their basic theory and replicated it. I built a refrigeration loop (albeit an inefficient one) from off the shelf components. It was pretty cool.. Literally. I used it to cool a vacuum vessel from a vacuum pump that I made from a long cylinder, a plunger that slid in it and 2 valves. The combination of the 2 allowed me to make freeze dried astronaut food by sublimating water. All from off the shelf stuff at a hard ware store. It was pretty fucking cool. The food tasted like shit but it was fun. Do you see why I ask the questions I ask? We don't have the information available that I had when I did the above project. i understood the refrigeration cycle and had working examples. I understood sublimation. I didn't have to engage in an Edison-sih adventure of trying every possibility to invent something. Instead I could be like Tesla and build it right the first time because I understood the theory. I had basic information.
have a pretty good sense of the difference between a functional plan to build something and an OBVIOUS LACK of that plan. Same goes for resources.
At this point we have no idea of what the resources are. We have no idea what the materials are. We have no idea of what the forces are. Heat? Pressure? vibration? There are so many things to look into.
Yes I see the pretty colored picture. I see that its shape is related to the Mandelbrot set. I have read some interesting stuff about that fractal and its features. I BELIEVE that there is a possibility to set up a harmonic with sound and water that would make a tiny area in the exact center of this fractal that could cause fusion. It kinda makes sense in a way when you think of fractals and sound and water. Very interesting. My faith and belief in the possibility of it working is a side line to the desperate lack of information for how the system works.
I asked the needed questions to get a start on this project in a meaningful fashion. None of them have been answered. When those answers happen I will build it… I shit YOU not… but we need a provable direction go in. OR we need something that makes sense.
The extremely vague idea of a geometric shape with no sense of scale… entirely unknown materials, pressures, etc. leaves me no where to go other than to start 3d printing pieces of plastic and throwing them in the creek to see if it boils?? After I do that a few times I "discover" that plastic wont work in needs to be metal! Then I "Discover" that the creek wont work because the water is too dirty so it has to be pure water…
After distilling I "Discover" that it has to be not surrounded with water but full of water with a cover over the end.
I would MUCH rather put my time and skills towards working more with the guys at MFMP. They answer my questions in deep and wonderful details.
What happened to Christmas? Really? That is my question. We will break RSA 100 by Christmas… Right? We haven't even hit step 1 of this entire journey. Not one thing has happened that could not have happened in the "standard model" world. The claim is that the standard model is wrong. So far, the standard model is right on the money. Completely unfazed. Had that not been the case I would not be writing the things I am right now.
So, again… Lets get some basic answers first. I have already posted what is needed to get started. If they don't come along then we know why. If they DO come along then I will build that shit and build it well. NO. FAITH. REQUIRED.
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55685b No.2863
>>2854
Thats why I made it in a CAD program, duh. Here is a higher resolution that should be printable, you can have the file if you want
>>2860
This is the main problem, we have nowhere near enough information to make anything useful. My drawings are just an attempt at getting the discussion started.
Intuitively, it seems like there is a possiblity to achieve harmonic resonance in a structure like this, but with background noise as the only input? Maybe if you print a hundred variations of it you will find some experimental results to point us in the right direction. Also if this is even close to the right design, what is the focus point? Where do you chop off the cone in the middle?
There are 3D-printable plastics that go to ~120C after being heat-treated afterwards, should suffice for experiments anyway. Pure water is easy to get. As for Chris' broken promises, the RSA thread has some real proof in the form of mathematical relationships even if we haven't broken it yet, this thread is just crazy people speculating (am still here for some reason).
There is no science I know of (banned, esoteric or otherwise) that would enable this.. thing… to boil water.. So right this is just a fucking art project for a fancy, expensive bowl of water - its best feature would be that it hopefully doesn't leak!
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47b20d No.2873
>>2863
Yep! and sorry for my mild hostility. I really appreciate your work on this cool looking bowl. I would rush off and have one printed but its not enough.
When I started this thread it seemed like an obvious shout-out to me as I have mentioned my willingness and interest in building stuff as opposed to doing computer programming.
I posted all the questions and info and my second round of stuff simply because it is necessary. It is one thing to have people doing math all day. No harm there. Hell thats a good thing! If I taught highschool THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I WOULD TEACH IT.
I dont want to see people wasting all their money or worse, getting hurt, trying to build an energetic system that they dont understand. That is why I have been somewhat harsh in my interactions in this arena. I'm mildly worried that someone may really go off a cliff with it which is not necessary.
Your "hundred variations" of it is a wonderful example of the problem I see right off the bat. The crux is this. To build something that works you either need to understand the system you are building or you need to experiment. Let me tell you… blind experimentation is almost NEVER ever a way to discover something. You need more. I could come up with a thousand different ways to do something with your cool Mandelbrot bowl. None of them would work as intended because any process like this that works would have been discovered by accident somehow… or it would occur in nature EVERYWHERE.
Ok, so a side line. Did you know that the chloroplasts in plants (the parts that convert sunlight to ?sugar? for the plant to live gather THE EXACT highest possible energy from native sunlight hitting the planet. This is because it is such a wonderful source of energy and its usefulness has been maximized. Nature does this all the time. Any plant that wasn't optimized this way would eventually be replaced by one that was. Think about that then look at a set of solar panels and think about it again. I wish I could get a plant to produce electricity. :>)
This super simple solid state system that is being presented here COULD exist in nature by accident. If you don't believe me on that then just look up how many fractals exist in the plant community. Fractals and the golden mean are LEGION in the plant world. Very cool stuff. I love to look for them in my garden.
Catch is they are so common and this SNL system exists NOWHERE in nature? If that is the case then it must be too complex to form by accident… EVER… That tells me that it is not merely a 3d fractal shape and some water.
This tells me that we need more information. We need highly refined materials. We need VERY specific conditions. We need more. COULD this be possible. It surely can! I would love to explore it but I wont go on a wild goose chase without a 12 guage, a goose call and some decoys… Which one do you think this thread is?
If you like this type of stuff though check out the Martin Fleischman Memorial Project. MFMP is probably the closest thing to a functioning cold fusion device existing in the open source science community.
Their information is not a mystery to find. It is not a weird unverified thing that may or may not be real. Its all right there. Anyway, have fun and I will be around here checking in… Waiting patiently for something to come along that is build-able. I'm jealous of your cad skills. That is another major reason I never got a 3d printer. I don't have the cad skills to make anything that I want. Instead I have to pay someone to make it for me… or learn cad… uggghhh. But, super cool stuff and IF there is a provable system built in the VQC room that can crack RSA 100 et.al. and or we get the real deal on something that has the necessary complexity and level of detail to actually be likely to work here… Make no mistake. I will be on it like stink on shit. But until that time arrives I will hold my breath and wait.
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55685b No.2876
>>2873
What hostlity? Didn't notice any :)
>I dont want to see people wasting all their money or worse…
Exactly why I didn't post any printable files, as its completly useless at this point
>This super simple solid state system that is being presented here COULD exist in nature by accident.
How do you know its not an essential part of how some exotic plant perfoms photosyntesis? Not like we have studied all of them on the level required, and if we tried, do we even have instruments to do it?
Will look into MFMP for sure.
>I'm jealous of your cad skills
What skills? Would you believe I never even touched any CAD progams until yesterday? This is my OpenSCAD "hello world" attempt… I don't bother to learn anything until I actually need it, so you should consider it if you like making stuff
Even with this I have nothing I want to make that requires a 3D printer so not buying one yet
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47b20d No.2902
>>2876
If any life form had access to something like this they could do anything. Live in the dark. Live somewhere super cold. Stuff like that. It would be pretty badass. My guess if something like that came about it would outcompete EVERYTHING else and could therefore dominate all others. That is not the case so since we are here with our little adensoine triphospate chemical cells we can kinda rule them out.
Thanks for the Cad info. You are the first person I ever knew who said that shit was easy. I will check it out. I could use a quality printer that could make stuff. Its the whole… Tell it what I need… part that kept me away. Yeah MFMP is pretty cool. Lots of other stuff as well. It was very interesting.
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4fd971 No.3008
VQC was a psyop all.
Sorry you didn't listen when I told you. (and was banned)
Rustfag out.
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dbe838 No.3009
>>3008
Hey rust… Phone hobo here… either way, psy-op or not there is no harm in people hanging out doing math which is basically what this is all about. As for this room well, like I said, many claims have been made. I know how to build some shit and as anon and I have gone through at length, there is not enough info to get started on really anything at all. What I don't want to see is people wasting good money or getting hurt doing this stuff for no purpose.
You claim to KNOW. that this is fake. Instead of just saying that, perhaps PROVE that? Maybe you know because you know this Chris guy personally and heard him joke about it? Then ask him about it and record it all and post the video?
How about If he is posting joking about us here then point us to that place. See, you come in here and make claims but provide nothing. So you re even less believeable than Chris is at this point… Which is saying quite a bit! Cheers!
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d08ae4 No.3014
>>3008
I've only banned one person and you don't have their posting history, so either you're lying or the 90 day IP hash cycle has clocked over. If you are that same person, don't expect me not to ban you again if you start spamming "VQC's a psyop and a lie, you're all idiots, blah blah blah" shit again. You said you were leaving last time and you never did until you were banned.
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4fd971 No.3081
>>3009
VQC himself claimed whatever would happen would happen by the 1st and after he literally said he would kill himself if his god didn't come, this was on discord.
>>3014
>Doesn't know about Dynamic IP's.
You are a credit to your team dipshit.
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951eab No.3082
>>3081
Lmao, wtf? Prove it or just fucking never come here again shill.
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4fd971 No.3083
>>3082
Topol can probably prove it.
I've long since left that server.
Pretty odd there's no Chris, which is why I popped back in. I didn't think he was serious, in fact I told him I was thrilled he was committed. We talked more, he wished a good day. This was in public Q #general on one of the first servers roughly two weeks ago. I left the server and don't have an invite to get back.
>Prove it or just fucking never come here again shill.
Kill yourself.
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4fd971 No.3084
He literally said something about his God being on earth, and that the barrier to entry to heaven was lower than most had ever considered.
Looking back, he was more than committed.
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d08ae4 No.3085
>>3081
>doesn't know about dynamic IPs
>implying
They're irrelevant. Do you expect me to list every single possible reason why you don't have the same posting history, or just the relevant ones? You're the one being the dipshit here. All of your posts are pointless and evidenceless blackpilling. You also did exactly what I said about saying that you were leaving and then sticking around anyway so you can spread demoralization. Either post something constructive and useful (get Topolanon's attention if you have to, he's still here) or actually do what you said you were going to do and leave.
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951eab No.3086
>>3084
If you believe in Jesus Christ you will get into heaven. That sounds like a pretty low barrier to me.
First time I've heard of him ever been on that platform.
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4fd971 No.3104
>>3085
>The crickets of topol not being here and vqc not being lends credence to what the rust fag says, better get ass mad while I traverse O(n^n) space in O(n^2) or O(n^3) time.
Idiot.
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d08ae4 No.3107
>>3104
>the crickets of topol not being here
>lends credence to what the rust fag says
What? What that means is that your only evidence isn't here. How would that lend credence to what you're saying? His last post >>2962 was 4 days ago, so obviously he isn't here at the moment.
>better get ass mad
I don't care how much of your own time you waste trying to convince us of something without any evidence, but you're shitting up the board by posting irrelevant things in this thread (this is a thread about sonoluminescence), so start your own thread and keep all of this there or I'll ban you because you're being a shill even if it isn't your intention (it certainly seems like your intention, since, again, you're still here posting about this without evidence after saying you were leaving).
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4fd971 No.3115
Kill yourself, ban all you like. IP's are free douchebag.
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dcca50 No.3121
The suicide thing was based on someone thinking that an anon posting about offing themselves was VQC.
It wasn't.
Anon who found it went to great lengths to get in touch with me. I looked into it.
Wasn't Chris.
The post that started that nonsense also involved drinking and throwing away an AA chip or whatever.
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d08ae4 No.3123
>>3121
Thanks for clearing that up Topol. I'm pretty sure the person I had to ban here >>3115 is the same shill from last time who spammed the main thread with similar posts about VQC being a psyop/fake/whatever.
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fcb2b2 No.3584
crossposting >>3580
With that moving, it's likely [T]ime for this ball to get rolling as well.
>>2873
>When I started this thread it seemed like an obvious shout-out to me as I have mentioned my willingness and interest in building stuff as opposed to doing computer programming.
One theme in VQC's posts is 'patience'. "Thanks for your patience..".
Remember this drop and hold tight anon…
▶VQC!!Om5byg3jAU 12/04/17 (Mon) 12:07:37 ID: b274cc No.31417>>31465 >>31941
>>31398
The end result is that you learn how to design virtual quantum computers so the limits of what you can achieve recede.
This grid is one example.
The Mandelbrot Set version is multi-purpose.
When used in 3D printing, it can be used for a perfect mini chamber to create desktop multi bubble sonoluminescence with input sound and it's shape containing a self sustaining cold fusion reactor. It is safe because should it overheat, the bubbles stop collapsing.
We're heading toward safe desktop fusion devices.
Then we will use the next design to bypass the fusion and generate electricity from a design improvement using material science in the 3D printing.
Science made fun again.
It starts with understanding why this first one is a virtual quantum computer. Removing RSA and elliptic curve encryption from the occasion.
That will stop people laundering money in cryptocurrency.
Return to GOLD standard.
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e00c2d No.3679
>>3584
Thanks for the heads up anon. Yeah I have been checking here daily. Looking forward to a good hands on project as my current one is wearing thin. This thing would flat out be the funnest project ever. Oh well, I'm ready whenever. It looks like the guys in the math room have been having some fun! Glad to see it.
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951eab No.3690
>>3679
You'd have to know a hell of a lot of math to build what he's talking about.
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e00c2d No.3704
>>3690
Yeah, I have that feeling from looking at it. Of course I would immediately ask the guys in the VQC room for help but honestly I think what they are working on is more important at the moment. Yeah I still see a massive chasm between my hands on skill set and this project as it stands.
There is probably steps that can be taken with the info available but I don't really see it. I could just start buying prints and messing with it but like I said before, the complexity is not there for it to not just happen by accident in nature from my understanding anyway.
I really hope that a plan that I can build comes of this as it would be fun stuff. I would totally make a video guide of how to build it but I have a feeling that when the VQC is built there will be no way to distribute it as the internet will likely go dark when someone combines that tool with a virus for distribution.
Really if this does not come out first I don't know how we will get the info out. I guess hypothetically speaking I could just make them as fast as I can and give them away with plans. I hope they can be made with a very simple 3d printer but I feel they likely will not be that simple.
If that's the case though then I could probably put together the printers and the plans (something like a REP RAP machine) That will print the SNL device. That will aid greatly in distrtibution allowing people to make their own production system as opposed to just getting the device.
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e00c2d No.3705
I'm wondering if it can be made with something like this http://reprap.org/
Or something more like this. http://www.stratasys.com/3d-printers/fortus-380mc-450mc
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7ea92c No.4269
Well it's been quiet here. Thought I would make a few posts. Here is a fun one.
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dcca50 No.4270
>>4269
Yeah…. I kinda got back to it also but I don't really know what we're supposed to do with it in relation to VQC outside of having a lil' computer that can run the computation for like… constant cavitation so non-ending energy… or something…
>>4186
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accce9 No.4278
Know a thing or two about 3DP, but haven't had anything to contribute. With vqc back, will flag this thread in the rsa10 and ask him to pop in. My guess is specific material structures are what he had in mind, printed into appropriate shapes. Think along the lines of the specialized properties of materials in pyramids - granites selected and brought in, also some of the composite cast materials having various quartz and other crystalline materials mixed and set. Micro/Macro geometries working together.
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7ea92c No.4279
>>4270 phone hobo here. I really gotta get that pass somewhere more convenient. :)
Yeah it seemed to me that there was a solid state shape that could be fitted with a flat? Lid? Then either filled with water or submerged in water.
Im totally ready for a new hands on project but I think this will be 99% computer mouse and white board and %1 hammers, saws, glue, welding, tubes, hoses, and sparking electric wires. :)
The anon with the green Mandelbrot bowl thingy was probably on the right track but who knows.
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7ea92c No.4280
>>4278
Yeah that's cool. I built a reprap back when they were very new. Got it to print a few things then it got stuck and kinda tore itself apart. It was cool as fuck though.
https:// hooktube.com/watch?v=AYs6jASd_Ww
This is the coolest one ever. I was going to make one but I ended up homeless after loosing my home then my job.. Then I rebuilt my whole life off grid hence the Hobo name.
Now I have solar power, a cabin, a nice shop and no job so I'm free to do shit :)
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96abf9 No.4354
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96abf9 No.4422
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59c1ab No.5821
We will get to this.
If anyone wants to get ahead of the curve, see if you can get access to any equipment that either creates a measurable bubble that emits light or can get hold of access to a 3D printer.
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dbb332 No.5864
>>5821
A friend of mine has access to a 3D printer when he's in the same city as me. How big does it need to be?
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160338 No.5992
>>5821
I have both high end spectrometers and manufacturing gear.
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e27d86 No.6016
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play. Galactic Sonolumin…. Sonic Rainbooms.
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30268a No.6625
Some Links I found looking into this again recently. Some related, Some, IDK.
Overview:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/tiny-bubbles-explain-puzz/
https://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/31/science/mysterious-light-from-tiny-bubbles-finds-practical-uses.html
How to:
http://www.techmind.org/sl/ and its archive: http://archive.is/xtfTb
Other information:
A big list of stuff about Casmir and Quantum effects found from this K.A. Milton guy at Cornell who appears to be a debunker of this stuff perhaps? IDK.
Casmir effect and quantum vacuum energy. Seems related to Sono, but I just don’t know enough to be sure.
http://archive.is/23Pil
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1401.0784.pdf
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e27d86 No.8153
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2f96a9 No.10242
So this Anon is very much interested in multi-bubble Sonoluminescence . Some interesting things to note: When using Xenon gas bubbles, Sonoluminescence occurs at 1mhz which is fairly a narrow band. Another thing I was thinking came after listening to JohnHereToHelps interview with TruReporting/RedPill78. TL;DR God left a miracle in the Multiverse in the form of a frequency of the first Word spoken.
I'd very much like to find that frequency and see if Sonoluminesence occurs when it is applied to suspended bubbles. I know this sounds a bit crazy, but so does everything else on this board and it's turned out to be TRUE.
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ac267e No.10783
Chris, if you are who you are then you know who I am, or will know, and how to contact me. If you are who you are then you know that I know, or what I know, and will know, and that, I know.
51, so simple and elegant, and yet that is the gate keeper.
Well, the first of two, as far as I am aware.
I am knocking.
Will you answer?
With respect, you have 24 hours.
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ac267e No.10784
>>10783
This is the window, and the time, and the time is now.
I know you know, and I'm sounding the call.
1440
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2bcd35 No.11550
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abdd03 No.11553
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e59d5e No.12646
https://nitter.poast.org/JustXAshton/status/1829536643600068658#m
Sono conversations in the wild. Was there something to this stuff here back in the day ?? …now thats a name I haven't heard for a very long time!
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d57081 No.12682
There is the mandlebrot set in this document. URL is up in the top of the image. It is a whole book of like 500 pages
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2fd9ab No.12684
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2fd9ab No.12686
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a86b57 No.12687
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn89boAl3uc
Video by Tom Bearden talking about Sono. He really gets into it at about 40min mark
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a86b57 No.12688
>>12687
1hr and 14mins he mentions it is RF (RADIO FREQUENCY) pulses not sound like InTraditional Sono.
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a86b57 No.12693
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xKOtKTLudOU
Bob greenyer talking about this type of stuff.
Mater is simply an antipode of compressed energy.
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a86b57 No.12697
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UgoAC2p8bZg
Some mention of Sono in this one as well. I missed the timestamp
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