No.33195 [Last50 Posts]
>"Rian's in the Lucasfilm braintrust group. Everyone at Lucasfilm liked working with him, TLJ went smoothly unlike Rogue One and Solo trainwrecks and J. J. isn't interested in doing Star Wars and spends all his time at Bad Robot"
>"That's why they gave him trilogy. The "slowdown" is literally just going to be 2020 while they do construction at this other studio that isn't Pinewood dedicated to Star Wars. RJ trilogy episode 1 will be released in 2022 and there's nothing anyone can do about it."
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No.33196
>Everyone at Lucasfilm liked working with him
Ah yes, all the wonderful, talented people at Lucasfilm such as Kathleen Kennedy, Kiri Hart, Pablo Hi-HhHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
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No.33198
>Rian Johnson's trilogy will save Star Wars!
>please ignore how we've already written off the sequel trilogy as something it needs to be saved from!
Kill all presstitutes
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No.33201
>sorry, but Rian Johnson maybe starwars' savior
oy vey! Don't you mean the brilliant man that was behind sucessfull films such as The Farce Awakens!?!!
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No.33206
>>33195
oh man, i am convinced.
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No.33226
>>33195
Saving star wars from.. what exactly? A dignified death?
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No.33229
>>33226
TLJ wasn't dignified, its probably the exact same as its final fate will be.
Saving it from a quick death maybe, but dignity is long gone.
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No.33231
>>33229
Whoops i meant TFA and by a logical extension ROSW.
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No.33239
>>33231
Star Wars Kinect will be Canon soon.
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No.33242
>>33226
star wars died in 2012, what are you on about?
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No.33245
Beniof, Weiss, and Rian Johnson. Let that sink in.
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No.33247
>>33245
>they're actually hiring DnD
What the fuck?
Even normal niggers know those two are trash writers
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No.33248
>>33247
Do they really though? A lot of normalfags i know only watched the early parts of GOT and thus think them as good writers.
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No.33252
>>33242
Well, I suppose what they are doing is more akin to digging the rotting corpse out of its grave to publicly defile it, time and time again.
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No.33261
>>33248
Considering that even the subplebitts are autistically screeching about how terrible the latest episodes and seasons have been since they stopped adapting the books, I'm gonna say they've become hated by them too
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No.33262
>>33261
It warms the cockles of my heart to see normalfags online mad about GoT, but so far everyone at my workplace is loving that bullshit. I mean they admit its bullshit but they like that the evil bad guy is finally gone and still think the last episode will be grand.
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No.33264
Well, that planned break for Star Wars seems to only be a a little over 2 year break instead of the 1 year they had before with release dates set for 2022, 2024 and 2026 in a recent announcement of movies under the Disney/Fox banner. The question is, will it be GoT's D&D who screwed up at the end and tarnished the legacy of GoT but are good at adapting if they have material to work with or Rian, the original expectations subverter who can take a piece of humble pie on twitter?
Both are bad but D&D seem like the lesser of 2 evils at this point. One shitted on a book franchise and ruined future tv spin-offs because they ran out of material and had to rely on their tv writing for the rest of it. The other shitted on a franchise so hard that it had to make Disney course correct to even implement a slowdown. Either way, the Dark Saga of Disney seems like it won't have no end in sight.
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No.33265
>>33261
>since they stopped adapting the books
The books were by no means great either, but at least they were better than what D&D shat out. I don't know what's gone on the past couple seasons since I haven't watched them, but what they did to Stannis was ridiculous.
When you compare the books to the show, the story that D&D's main motivation in adapting the series was to adapt the Red Wedding comes as no surprise. After that stage it took a hard decline and they seemed to stop caring.
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No.33269
>>33261
i can actually confirm this, normalfags are noticing how the quality of writing has gone down since they jumped off the books.
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No.33271
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No.33283
>>33265
>The books were by no means great either, but at least they were better than what D&D shat out.
This, basically. Pic related was one of multiple season 1 plotlines, but now we have teleporting anime ninjas.
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No.33287
>>33261
My point was that casual viewers still have a good view of them; which realistically forms the main audience for most mainstream shows.
Also not even the majority of normalfags use reddit at least where i live.
Either way it'll probably sell better than Rians trilogy.
We'll see what trash they're doing soonish since GOT is ending.
>>33265
Well apparently the "climax" of about 8 seasons ended in "subversion lol" with everyone acting like idiots to even get to that point.
I've only read one of the books because everyone was talking about it and decided to drop it past that book, because it was mediocre.
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No.33288
>>33287
There was a point where I found myself unable to keep reading the books… Webm related. Aside from that, I don't understand GoT fans' obsession with comparing Martin to Tolkien, the two are completely different and you can't fucking start comparing people to Tolkien who was basically the father and re-kindler for a whole new era of fantasy fiction.
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No.33315
Wasn't GOT always supposed to be deconstructionist postmodern tier bullshit?
>>33288
>that webm
kek'd
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No.33316
>>33315
It was, but then people started treating it like a whole new epic "realistic" fantasy that made them go
<WOW! This is like Harry Potter for adults!
Rather than realizing that it was just a deconstruction that got its appeal from being raunchy and overly detailed. Hell, half of these shit-eating fanboys shit on Tolkien for reasons that they love Martin, showing that they've never read anything outside of Martin, JK Rowling and Wendig novels (and possibly Ready Player One).
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No.33319
>>33316
I would rather advise people to read the sagas and stories Tolkien stole his ideas and themes from, or if they want to read phantasy fiction, there is always Robert E. Howard.
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No.33320
>>33316
Wending is a faggot who must insult those better than him because he knows he can never match up
>>33319
Even though I disagree pretty strongly with his personal politics Tolkien is a superb author. What books by Howard would you recommend?
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No.33323
>>33319
You ask too much of modern readers. They can't read anything unless its written in present tense and has lots of "fuck" and "shit" thrown around. They'll only read that shit or anything that's like Harry Potter.
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No.33324
>>33319
Its not stolen, its more like inspirations and references. Also I'm not gonna stop liking Tolkien because he sees political parallels in his books that aren't evident to regular readers and are practically non-existent to everyone but himself.
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No.33326
>>33323
Is the whole book like this?
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No.33327
>>33319
>Gets pissed at the Nazis' butchery of ethno-linguistic concepts (the Nazi vision of "Aryan" was only vaguely inspired by the actual concept) and considers shitposting at them
>Gets pissed at the idea of his works being published for political reasons instead of on their own merits and shitposts about it
>Took linguistic inspiration from real languages, like he took inspiration from Finnish for the Elves' languages
>Opposes genocide, including of Germans in the event of their defeat (note that he later spoke of being appalled at what Germans were subjected to post-war)
>Gets pissed at the Nazis' twisting and abuse of traditionalism and "northern spirit" for political gain, because he correctly foresaw that once Hitler fell his nonsense would become inseparable from those concepts and that anyone displaying too much European-ness would be condemned by association
Not seeing much wrong with those quotes.
Keep in mind this is the same guy who said it was absolutely impossible that LotR was a metaphor for WWII, because if it had been Saruman would have gotten the Ring and taken over.
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No.33329
>>33327
>Gets pissed at the Nazis' butchery of ethno-linguistic concepts (the Nazi vision of "Aryan" was only vaguely inspired by the actual concept) and considers shitposting at them
I hear this type of thing a lot but usually I don’t see anything explaining why or what exactly makes it a butchery. Could you explain it?
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No.33330
>>33326
Its even worse actually. I'd storytime it but I don't anyone to suffer.
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No.33331
>>33330
Looking at the page, it’s not terrible writing. It seems about average. My main gripe would be that it’s in present tense, which is a bit jarring to meand that the author seems to fall into past tense near the bottomand most authors can’t pull off well.
What else can you tell me about the plot?
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No.33333
>>33331
>average
His books are now regarded as some of the worst pieces of popular literature out there. I suggest you read the whole thing. Its not a pretty sight. I may have to post his filthy books to prove a point.
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No.33335
>>33333
Wending also wrote the book in your previous post?
>aftermath
No thanks, I may not have read it all, but I’ve seen enough to know it’s pretty bad
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No.33337
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No.33338
>>33333
JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSS FUCKING CHRIST THAT IS BAD
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No.33339
>>33288
i hope this is actual prose from his faggoty books
>>33316
>possibly Ready Player One
i only know one person who's actually read that shitfest
>>33333
quints blessedly confirming wendig is one of the worst authors to exist
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No.33345
>>33339
>i hope this is actual prose from his faggoty books
It's real. There are a few infamously bad lines.
>The three men were erect. The sight of their arousal was arousing
>The ship groaned and growled beneath him like a constipated fat man straining to shit
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No.33350
>>33345
He put those lines in a fucking ’’Star Wars’’ book?! “Wibbly wobbly tie fighters” is one thing but this is garbage.
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No.33368
>>33350
>a fucking ’’Star Wars’’ book?
Read the thread before posting
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No.33460
>>33323
What the fuck is this, it reads like a neural net generated that. Especially that bit in italics where it looks like it started rambling and cycling through what it thinks are related sentence fragments.
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No.33482
Looks like D&D will be making the 2022 Star Wars so what is Rian Johnson doing? Is he just a paid troll supervising Star Wars at this point? The lesser of 2 evils with D&D being the obvious choice over Rian is still evil at the end of it. The era of subverted expectations will at least be going to 2027.
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No.33483
>>33482
Its even worse than that. Rian + D&D are working together. The movie project in question is a Knights of the Old Republic movie.
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No.33484
>>33483
Despite them working together i can't imagine a movie worse the TLJ honestly.
I guess it'll be experience at the very least.
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No.33485
>>33482
You can't subvert expectation when the expectation everyone has is subversion, not unless you make a typical movie with no surprises.
>>33483
>The movie project in question is a Knights of the Old Republic movie
My fucking sides, manbaby & the guys who loathe doing adaptations doing a not-adaptation of one of the few eras still beloved & not ruined.
Fucking bravo Yidsney.
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No.33486
>>33484
Yeah. It will probably not be as bad but still be bad. It would be funny to see how much drama unfolds from having three pretentious subverters of expectations working together to make a movie and having trouble getting along.
https://movieweb.com/knights-of-the-old-republic-movie-tv-show-development-confirmed/
This article also says they're collaborating together on projects (plural) so its probably not just kotor.
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No.33487
I wonder if that KOTOR movie is for theaters or for Disney+?
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No.33489
>>33486
Yeah i can't imagine superman leias so really can't measure up to it realistically.
KOTOR is going to be a trilogy right? It could just be referring to that.
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No.33501
>KOTOR finally gets recognised.
>By Disney.
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No.33512
>>33501
KOTOR doesn't deserve to be canon because of its complete lack of understanding of the Force. Lucas himself stated it. Lucas' biggest problem is his acceptance and push for cheese and low-brow humor, but his symbolism, themes and metaphysics are accurate.
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No.33515
>>33512
KotOR2 had a better and more nuanced interpretation of the Force than any other piece of Star Wars media.
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No.33517
>>33515
It didn't, though. Chris Avellone doesn't understand that the Light Side and the Dark Side of the Force in Star Wars don't function like Good and Evil as conceptualized by Lucas. This is why Kreia is a shit character that's out of place in Star Wars, she's basically a God-hating militant atheist that got butthurt because "muh cruel life" in a world that doesn't really have God.
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No.33526
>>33515
>muh kotor 2 is the be all and end all of SW
When will this meme die?
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No.33529
>>33526
Not soon enough. Gray jedi katanas are Rian Johnson shit.
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No.33531
>>33517
But anon, that's the point. At the very end on Malachor V a LS Exile beats Kreia because her entire philosophy was wrong. In her final moments, her rhetoric falls into the same dark side trap that the Sith dwell in. She thinks she has gone beyond the dichotomy of the Force, yet she becomes the exact thing that she criticizes as she tells the Exile to strike her down. The same way Sidious told Luke to strike Vader down to take his place.
Kreia falls into the same hole as Revan, Vader did, where they try to use the Dark Side to attain a goal, but are blinded and delude themselves as they become drunk on power. Kreia may use some big-brain 110 IQ philosophical words, but she is more like the Sith buried in the Valley of the Dark Lords that she chides more than she realizes.
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No.33532
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No.33534
>>33517
Top-tier bait, you've really earned that Alderaan flag
>>33529
>KotOR 2 is about gray jedi
Sounds like somebody didn't pay attention to any of the game's dialogue or important plot points
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No.33536
>>33531
I was just about to go to bed, so I don't have the energy to discuss this or anything else at length beyond making a post in the starship thread I intended to make almost a week ago before I got busy with other stuff, but this topic deserves its own thread. This thread is reserved for bitching about Rian Johnson. Kreia's philosophy is very interesting and totally irrelevant to this thread because normalfags don't have the patience or intellect necessary to even have an opinion on it, and it's more complicated and therefore gives more room for multiple views of an issue to have valid points than a piece of full-throated liberal propaganda can allow, which means it won't appear in Rian Johnson's movies.
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No.33537
>>33515
But it didn't. The Force is meant to be spiritual, not merely conceptual.
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No.33538
>>33537
That goes both ways, the fact that the Force is spiritual doesn't preclude you from examining it in exclusively conceptual ways. There are plenty of theologians, such as Anslem and Thomas Aquinas, whose works examined God almost exclusively from a conceptual perspective, that doesn't mean these people weren't spiritual or invalidated the spiritual aspect of Christianity.
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No.33542
>>33538
> the fact that the Force is spiritual doesn't preclude you from examining it in exclusively conceptual ways.
I agree, but they ended up contradicting the source material, which is why they were not canon to begin with.
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No.33568
Honestly in the whole GOT debacle I always supported the blue darth maul because I always thought that all the people in GOT are such assholes and degenerates, that no one deserves to live if anything a night king victory ending would have been superb
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No.33572
>>33534
>It had a nuanced interpretation of the Force
<It was Gray Jedi Bullshit
>No! It has the classic view of the Force!
This is exactly what The Last Jedi did.
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No.33577
>>33195
>Everyone at Lucasfilm liked working with him
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No.33580
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No.33608
>>33568
Only niggers and jews would hate, side against, and depict winter as some how evil or bad.
Winter is the greatest and most beautiful of all seasons.
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No.33744
>>33608
Agreed. Winter is the comfiest season. While hot weather makes you smelly, sweaty and insane.
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No.33818
>>33483
>Knights of the Old Republic movie
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No.33821
>>33195
If luke put him on a cross for 2.5 hours, I'd PAY to see it.
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No.33822
>>33608
Done well, winter as the enemy in a Middle Ages setting up could work. Winter is comfy for Euros now because it's no longer a threat. We've conquered it, and made it safe, so we can greet it like an old friend. But imagine a story centered around winters that last multiple years , held at bay but not yet truly tamed. It could have been a testament to the ingenuity and determination of the not-Euro Westerosi. They had to be a little lower time-preference, and set aside the Hebraic-tier betrayal and bickering in order to deal with this existential threat.
But no, instead we got Titties and Dragons: Age of Incest.
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No.33823
>>33818
We must sabotage it.We cannot allow it to happen.
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