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No.28553 [Last50 Posts]
Just stumbled across this video on jewtube. It asserts that many elements of TLJ's story as well as it's press signal narcissistic abuse all for the end purpose of psychological warfare. I pretty strongly agree and wanted to start a discussion about it here.
Do you agree that TLJ was more than just a poorly written movie? What other elements of Disney's Star Wars act as a subtle indoctrination to Marxism? What other elements of Disney's Star Wars act as psychological abuse to the Star Wars audience?
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No.28554
>>28553
It was clearly Disney and Kennedy's biggest attempt at trying to see just how far they could push their views on to the masses without evidently going overboard, and it may have also been their attempt at bringing California values to China. Who can say really? But its a possibility, especially when we see the shit Kennedy has said before.
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No.28555
>>28554
>do, or do not. there is not try. the force is female
A big part of what I liked about the video is the propaganda angle really explains why Disney would even be interested in buying Star Wars, I mean at first you think "it's worth a lot of money" but really to some people it's worth much more as a propaganda machine. I mean "The Force is Female" alone is literally just a Marxist tag line for the sell-out era.
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No.28556
>>28555
What better way to influence people than to take control of something they love so dear? Star Wars is practically a family element to some people. Heck its practically tradition to show it to each new generation. By adding their shitty new movies and media into the mix, Disney thought they could push their own narrative and build up an unquestionable following. Thankfully they didn't count on Rian being such a hack that he could break the spell with pure disappointment. Its clear Disney wants to be the Big Brother of a Brave New World (there's word for these kind of double references right?).
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No.28557
>>28556
>preoccupied with orgy porgy
>orgy porgy
>porgs
Dear Christ, its eerie how the parallels fit so well. The R2D2 in the comic is fitting but it should be replaced with a BB-8, and the Beanie Babies replaced with Porgs.
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No.28558
Well yes. Fortunately, KK and friends are morons.
However, a friend of mine reckons the whole plot of the Resistance and First Order may have sprung from interventionalist elements of the military-industrial complex. Those are not morons, but still filled with enough hubris to fail.
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No.28559
>>28558
Their stupidity was indeed a saving grace. What worries me is people falling for the "JJ can save Star Wars from Kennedy" meme.
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No.28563
>>28559
He can't given how broken everything is in this current trilogy and his inept ability as a director.
All they have are empty gimmicks & propaganda well I say we launch a few PR bombs ourselves to remind people that disney soywars is shit.
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No.28564
>>28556
The problem with thinking only Huxley is the problem is it ignores what drives people like Kennedy; malevolence. The SJWs are much more like the inner party than they are the world controllers.
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No.28565
>>28563
>nein
>not нет
>>28553
Too narrow and overreaching for a more wide but simplistic reality. Narcissism and propaganda do have something to do with it but they're just two factors that I can't be assed to explain more thoroughly.
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No.28566
>>28565
Did not mean to sah-gay.
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No.28567
>>28565
>nein
Say Nein to EP nine + someone rejecting it
works well but make a better one if you can m8.
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No.28568
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>>28564
>malevolence
No. While malice is in there, what drives them is the religious need of the church of Progress. These are cultists and heretics, not saturday morning cartoon villains. They seek to create their own Heaven-on-Earth, and anyone who would stand in their way is the enemy We are the infidel to them, and infidels are shunned or put to the torch.
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No.28572
Anyone could see the feminist undertones. That's been blatant in all of Disneywars. Though I would say a lot of TLJ was born out of RJ's desire to appear clever, more than an overarching plot by Disney. The best way to slip a political message under the door, is not to go out of your way to offend even the popcorn munching masses.
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No.28573
>>28568
Let's not over-exaggerate. That would imply a bigger plan and a solid structure within the Lucasfilm order. The truth is far more simpler. Kennedy wanted to be like the other big time ideology pushing executives in Hollywood, however her problem is that she was an idiot who got lucky. She and her cronies are dumbasses who are greedy, morally corrupt and really incompetent. And we should be thankful they're so stupid and not as organized, because if they were, the potential for control they could've had with Star Wars would've been devastating (although TFA was close to achieving that).
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No.28591
>>28568
>No. While malice is in there, what drives them is the religious need of the church of Progress
Wrong. Progressivism is built on hatred of white males. A simple stroll through twitter shows that.
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No.28592
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>>28591
That's not mutually exclusive with Sith anon's proposal. White males are the infidels and devils that inspire hatred to them. But the foundation of the leftist disease is the civic religion. These people are rootless bugmen who have abandoned all forms of spirituality in their lives, and attempt to fill that hole by worshipping feminism and the state instead. They pray at the ballot box, and receive gibs and poz as form of answer. Congresswahmen and celebrities are their clergymen, Progress™ their religion, and the all-powerful welfare state is their god.
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No.28593
>>28592
Very well put. It reeks of social marxism but with absolute loyalty to the government and the rich who support them and their goals.
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No.28595
>>28554
>it's just like what Lucas did with Leia!
You've got to wonder if they're lying through their teeth, or if they actually see the world this way, sometimes.
Leia was a layered and likable character first, and a "strong woman" second. That's why people still care about her thirty years on, and no one remembers Jyn Erso's name.
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No.28597
>>28592
>But the foundation of the leftist disease is the civic religion
It isn't though. The foundation is shared hatred. The left is united in its hatred of white christian males who created civilization. Marxism's appeal is the bloody revolution in which religious heterosexuals are murdered en masse, and cultural marxism jusr added the concept of doing it to whites. This is why they embrace Islamic theocracy and third world orcs, despute the incompatibility of bith these groups with their civic religion.
You're trying to fit Huxley in to be 100% right, but he wasn't. He got the parts about pacifying the population but not the parts where the inner party of the left wants to turn ever part of the world into South Africa - where whites and murdered.
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No.28598
>>28573
> (although TFA was close to achieving that)
Oh definitely. TFA was a fucking dash of needless chaos on to society. Critics weren't allowed to touch it till after it premiered and no peasant was allowed to criticize it lest you'd be accused of being a sexist/racist/homophobic/bigot and have your social life or credibility ruined. Only made worse by how it got praise from all walks of life. Same with Rogue One. If not for TLJ we'd still be in that Hell. Thankfully Rian was the biggest fuck-up of all and his antics broke the demonic spell Disney had over the masses. As much as I think Rian is a faggot and a piece of shit who deserves a beating, I'm… thankful… he exists because without him, we'd still be stuck with droves of idiotic masses praising the fuck out of Disney everyday.
>>28595
Too true. Also it disturbs me to no end how they announced that they're going to parade Leia throughout IX…
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No.28600
>>28598
Yeah, it's a strange one. I kind of simultaneously love and hate TLJ.
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No.28603
>>28568
>they don't really believe what they claim to believe
"Progressive" does not describe them. They would rather live in a giant trash heap after all White men have been murdered than live in a Utopia where White men are allowed to exist. Progress means nothing to them, it's genetic extinction for Europeans that they want.
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No.28604
>>28598
>Also it disturbs me to no end how they announced that they're going to parade Leia throughout IX
She's their metaphorical golden calf. Hell, you already got idiots going 'round saying Leia is the hero of SW and not Luke Skywalker. It's rather infuriating to be honest.
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No.28605
>>28598
>>28604
Have they no respect for the dead?
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No.28606
>>28603
You give these people a bit too much credit. Most of them just don't think at all. They know that signaling about how awful white men are is momentarily advantageous and might win them a few friends. None of them are thinking about what this behaviour might lead to 50 years down the line. So it's not that they're choosing to live in a trash heap. They take their societal comforts for granted, and are choosing to get into some feminist's pants, or get an upvote on Reddit.
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No.28607
>>28606
This. It's apparent if you have to engage with these people on a daily basis their political positions are just social signaling.
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No.28609
>>28606
>>28607
This really is all there is to it. They're genuinely idiots. Sure its amusing to think of Kennedy and her cronies as part of some Socialist Illuminati, but the sad truth is they're just really fucking stupid who go along with the trends regardless if they make sense. They're the types who would jump off a bridge if they saw everyone else doing it.
>>28605
They made it perfectly clear that they don't with Rogue One. At the very least Peter Cushing had been dead for 30 years, but Leia dies no more than a month or so before RO, and they already set up an uncanny valley doll to replace her. Now they're going to do that same shit again with IX. Kennedy and her type may be idiots, but they sure as hell are soulless assholes.
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No.28610
>>28607
>>28606
Only an idiot assumes his enemies are idiots. Just because the average normie on twitter doesn't know why they're saying the things they're saying, doesn't mean the people programming them through the media don't. Read Propaganda by Edward Bernays. People don't get into positions of power in the media by accident.
When there are aparent and overt themes in media, for example in Disney Wars they haven't created a single original protagonist that is a White man, while 90% of their antagonists are White men. From the movies, to the novels, to the video games, to the cartoons, what they are doing is very obvious once you recognize it. It's not a coincidence that every White man is portrayed in a negative light, and if you think that sort of propaganda wont worm its way into people's minds, you're the idiot.
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No.28611
>>28610
>People don't get into positions of power in the media by accident.
True for most of Disney's heads of power, but in Kennedy's case, the dumb bitch only got to where she is by fucking Spielberg. She was literally his sexcratary and the man only gave her a higher post because she knew how to "please".
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No.28612
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No.28613
>>28610
I should specify. I don't consider the puppet masters "SJWs". SJWs are just the useful idiot footsoldiers. Disney higher-ups probably know what they're doing. Although Kathleen might actually just be a diversity hire who is indeed that stupid.
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No.28614
>>28613
If they were all incompetent, there wouldn't be these patterns in all the media. They are obviously following some sort of chain of command.
White = Evil, Stupid, Weak, or Pathetic is the only consistency throughout all of Disney Wars. The plots don't make sense, the characters don't make sense, but that message is in everything.
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No.28615
>>28612
>mfw Kyle Ren is actually a humanoid penguin
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No.28616
>>28614
They're not all incompetent. KK is incompetent because they hired her to be a figurehead.
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No.28617
>>28614
>They are obviously following some sort of chain of command.
They're all based in Hollywood. Of course they're following the same chain of command. But why is Phasma included there? They love the fuck out of her useless ass and consider her a strong female. Same as Rey and Leia, hence why Leia is the only OT character they still treat worth a damn.
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No.28618
>>28616
This. The higher ups are the smart ones with an agenda to push based on greed and personal gain rather than creativity. Kennedy is just a useless puppet who's only good at giving handjobs.
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No.28619
>>28618
>useless puppet
I meant mindless, sorry.
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No.28621
Lets go through everything Disney has done:
The Farce Awakens: 3 Villains, Kylo Ren, General Hux, and Snoke, all White
Rogue One: 1 Villain, Orson Krennic, White
The Last Jedi: 4 Villains, Kylo Ren, General Hux, Snoke, Luke Skywalker, all White
Solo: 1 Villain, Dryden Voss, White
In a universe full of aliens, they have only had White human men as the antagonists. Oh, and all the protagonists are either non-white or white women.
>>28617
>why is Phasma included
She has blonde hair and blue eyes, is presented as a coward, and is savagely beaten by a black guy in a scene which showcases her blue eyes and lets you know you should be cheering as a black man beats a white woman to death. Disney loves her character because her character is a mockery of Whites. It's not an accident how shitty she is.
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No.28622
Now lets have a look at the heroes of Disney Wars
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No.28623
>>28622
Anyone noticing the pattern?
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No.28624
White = Bad
POC = Good
That's the message Disney Wars has for you, that's the theme, that's what it's all about. If you are White, and you like Disney Wars, you hate yourself.
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No.28625
>>28621
>>28622
>>28623
Yeah, everyone knows this. What's your point?
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No.28626
>>28621
We get it. You're just repeating what we already know. Do you realize where you are? You're basically preaching to the choir.
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No.28627
>>28625
>everyone knows this
>I'm just gonna ignore all the posters in this thread saying that's not what it's about and Disney Wars is too stupid to have any message
>>28573
>>28606
>>28607
>>28609
You forgot your sith flag, faggot.
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No.28628
>>28626
A lot of you clearly don't get it, otherwise you wouldn't be saying, "hurr, it's not organized, they're stupid, they're just dumb"
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No.28629
>>28628
>they're just dumb"
We're saying Kennedy is dumb. Which she is. She's a dumb slut who got to where she is by sucking everyone's cock.
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No.28630
>condescending
>talks as if his opponents are stupid instead of mistaken
>puts words in people's mouths
>seemingly assumes people are samefagging
Well then, I think we've found where the Panaka faggot went.
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No.28631
>>28629
To be fair, some were mentioning the dumb ones in plural.
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No.28632
>>28627
>all the posters in this thread saying that's not what it's about
That was referring to the footsoldiers and lower leadership, and should have been obvious. Of course the big kikes are organized.
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No.28633
>>28627
People aren't saying that. They're saying people like Kathleen Kennedy might just be useful idiots in the larger plan of the people above them.
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No.28635
>>28632
>>28633
My bad. You're right then. Its basically useful idiots. The perfect pawns and yesmen for Marxist faggots.
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No.28636
>>28629
Yeah, she's so dumb, she just fell into that job, right? You're the idiot if you actually believe her public persona is representative of how she actually got where she is. She was smart enough to trick George into making her head of the company, smart enough to convince him they would honor his vision, then she immediately threw his drafts in the trash and stabbed him in the back.
That's not stupidity, that's calculated malevolence. If she was stupid, she would have been fired a long time ago.
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No.28638
>>28567
Oh, actually that makes sense. I just thought it was the nu/pol/tardish showing again, because the original poster is Sowjet.
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No.28640
>>28636
>smart enough to convince him they would honor his vision
I think it was the billions that did most of the convincing, anon.
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No.28641
>>28636
Kind of figured Disney just appointed her because they thought a female face would look good. I'm not read up on the actual history.
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No.28644
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>>28640
Star Wars was worth a hell of a lot more than what Lucas sold it for. Watch this video where Samuel L. Jackson casually says Lucas "got cheated" by Disney
>>28641
Spielberg convinced Lucas to sign it over to Kathleen Kennedy, and her being in charge was part of the deal when Disney bought it. Kennedy has big ties to Spielberg and produced his most successful movies. She's been in Hollywood for decades, she's not some spring chicken, and underestimating her influence and intelligence is something only a retard would do. It's like believing Sheev when he says the Jedi were plotting against him, it's partially true, but leaves out a hell of a lot of details.
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No.28645
>>28641
It was George who suggested her on Spielberg's request because she used to fuck Spielberg.
>>28636
She wouldn't be fired because an idiot like her makes the perfect scapegoat. Also her contract renewal is a matter of dispute.
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No.28647
>>28645
>she used to fuck Spielberg.
Well, that would explain it.
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No.28648
>>28636
Political conniving is not the same as marketing or managerial talent. You know this.
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No.28649
>>28644
You are right, but Kennedy is still an idiot. The Disney execs and Spielberg are the real brains of this outfit. Before she was a "successful" producer, Kennedy was Spielberg's pitiful secretary who knew how to "please" him. When asked why she was given the job of producing, all he could say was "she had good ideas". The woman is a fucking slut and Spielberg likes to give his sluts their moment in the sun or positions of power.
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No.28650
>>28645
And to make myself clear, no I don't think Disney is dumb. They're conniving and clever rats who deserve to get their shit fucked.
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No.28651
>>28648
>Political conniving is not the same as marketing
>conniving is not the same thing as marketing
Read Propagand by Edward Bernays, and don't make another post until you have, you massive retard. In case you haven't noticed, 3 out of four Star Wars films made under her control were massively successful from a money POV, this was due to marketing, which is conniving, which she is good at. I honestly believe they wanted Solo to flop and I have a feeling Episode 9 will unfortunately make a lot of money, it isn't hard to convince retards to watch bullshit, just look at how successful Aqua Man is, which is probably the most blatantly anti-white movie since The Farce Awakens.
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No.28654
>>28649
A woman using her body to rise in influence isn't stupidity, if she was stupid she would have sucked Spielberg's dick and gotten nothing out of it.
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No.28662
>>28654
>A woman using her body to rise in influence isn't stupidity
John_Cena_Are_You_Sure_About_That.webm
>3 out of four Star Wars films made under her control were massively successful from a money POV
Disney has not turned a profit on Star Wars as a franchise purchase yet, let alone keep Star Wars up with the growth of alternative investment options.
Also, with the falloff in profit as the films go in, they mayNEVER make up for their purchase of SW.
Of course, this assumes that profit is a main goal, which it may not be given the nature of jewish power.
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No.28666
>>28662
>Also, with the falloff in profit as the films go in, they mayNEVER make up for their purchase of SW
I wish I could share your optimism, but I garuntee you they are going to market Episode 9 at a level we've never seen before. They will include Prequel references, the will include Filoni Wars references, they will promote the hell out of Lando, they will try to trick people into thinking they are bringing Luke back (They aren't) they might even have a shot of someone in Boba Fett's armor in the trailer. But most of all, they will market Episode 9 as a return to form. The masses are stupid and I wouldn't be surprised if they fell for it all.
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No.28669
>>28666
>they are going to market Episode 9 at a level we've never seen before
Sure, and that'll cost more money. TLJ hate is up there with RLM prequel hate in terms of internet spread.
But we'll see when it comes out.
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No.28672
>>28669
>TLJ hate is up there with RLM prequel hate in terms of internet spread
But The Farce Awakens hate isn't, and they're going to market Episode 9 as the true continuation of the Farce Awakens. If we want Episode 9 to fail we need to heavily shit on The Farce Awakens over this year.
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No.28673
>>28651
Careful, anon. You're not thinking clearly yourself.
The enemy is not invincible, and is fallible.
>>28662
I believe this is what you're talking about, yes?
>>28672
>FA
Have you not been paying attention to how public opinion towards that sandy foundation has changed? Enthusiasm had gone through the floor, and even the most ardent defenders sound tired and glum.
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No.28674
>>28666
>they might even have a shot of someone in Boba Fett's armor in the trailer
If it turns out Phasma somehow survived yet another death by explosion, I won't even be surprised- it's almost expected at this point. Expect them to appeal to as many progressive talking points as they can with that movie in a desperate attempt to get a captive audience.
>EXCLUSIVE: The Stunning Revelation behind Phasma's Return, and why she's wearing Boba's armor
>Why the LGBTQWTF+- Community is Raving about that Star Wars preview
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No.28675
>>28672
I feel like the Mauler review is going to ruffle a lot of feathers. If he can do for TFA what RLM did for the prequels, I feel like Disney might actually take a hit out on him or something,
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No.28676
>>28673
>Have you not been paying attention to how public opinion towards that sandy foundation has changed?
Aside from part 1 of Mauler's review, what else has there been put out there?
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No.28678
>>28651
>In case you haven't noticed, 3 out of four Star Wars films made under her control were massively successful from a money POV
That's only really true for TFA. The success marker in large-scale expenditures like film production isn't just profit/no-profit, it's the opportunity cost. For disney's acquisition of /sw/ to be successful, it needs to at bare minimum make more money than the safest possible investment of that dosh, i.e. investing it all in the S&P 500. And so far Disney's Lucasfilm purchase has consistently netted them less profit than the ~10% gains they would have realized from just investing in the market index like a bunch of boomer IRAs.
>>28654
>A woman using her body to rise in influence isn't stupidity
This just in, Kim Kardashian was a secret genius all along who gave a tactical allaccordingtokeikaku blowjob to Jay Z.
>>28673
This to be honest family.
>>28676
A lot of jewtubers who initially praised TFA saw it again and started shitting on it after they saw TLJ, because the latter shattered their rose-colored glasses. None of the content made any big waves because ADHD normies don't give a shit about movie reviews that come out three years after the movie, but it's there.
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No.28679
>>28676
Anon, just talk to the normalfags and you'll see what I mean. Most of my coworkers, white, negro, jew, or spic, treat the "new Star Wars" with lukewarm interest at best. Most of them just shake their heads and say that they aren't the same, and I've even got a couple of them to admit the Prequels weren't so bad in comparison.
Don't despair, people aren't as dumb as you'd think.
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No.28680
>>28678
>This just in, Kim Kardashian was a secret genius all along who gave a tactical allaccordingtokeikaku blowjob to Jay Z.
A large part of a woman's power if her sex appeal, smart women use that sex appeal to accrue power and influence. I don't see what's controversial about that. I'm not associating smartness with morality, I'm not someone who thinks smart = morally good, I'm using smart to describe intelligence and practical skill at traversing the world and human society.
One of Lucas' intended villains for the Sequel trilogy was a Twi'lek that uses her sex appeal to manipulate and destroy men.
>Darth Talon, a character from the Star Wars Legacy comic series known for seducing one of Luke Skywalker’s descendants to the dark side, makes a curious amount of appearances in early concept art. Interestingly enough, George Lucas was known to be fond of the character
https://medium.com/@Oozer3993/george-lucas-episode-vii-c272563cc3ba
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No.28688
>>28680
So would that have been Darth Talon's great-granny or a Talon lookalike?
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No.28692
>>28688
Lucas was going to take what he liked from the EU, and throw out the rest, the same way he did with the Prequels. He liked Talon, so she was going to be in, and the protagonist Kira, seemed like an altered Jaina Solo.
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No.28693
>>28692
>the same way he did with the Prequels
What was thrown out? Only thing that was thrown out was that Clone Masters angle and the Empire's rule being shortened. Along with the whole concept of Leia remembering Padme which would be impossible in ROTJ.
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No.28694
>>28654
That doesn't make her smart or clever. It just proves she has nothing to offer mentally, only her body. Bankrupt in both mental and creative attributes and in order to get by has to submit to the most pathetic forms of self-preservation to achieve even remote success.
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No.28696
Dont we already have a thread for political discussion?
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No.28697
>>28694
>That doesn't make her smart or clever
>It just proves she has nothing to offer mentally
Using the tools she has to offer instead of trying to use tools she doesn't possess is on some level, smart.
>Bankrupt in both mental and creative attributes and in order to get by has to submit to the most pathetic forms of self-preservation to achieve even remote success
Now you're getting into morality. The fact of the matter is that women who don't use sex to control men are simply stupid. It's their greatest asset.
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No.28703
>>28680
>I don't see what's controversial about that.
It's the part where you say that using sex appeal to gain power requires intelligence. If anything your only asset being a series of holes suggests the opposite.
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No.28704
>>28679
>here are anecdotes
Worthless. We can see the evidence and the voting patterns are clear.
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No.28737
>>28692
George would've just given them different names by the end. He was always willing to partly compromise for the sake of the fanbase, unlike Disney. Also, a film never ends up exactly like its conceptual phase or its first draft. What we're seeing now probably would never have even made it into George's final product.
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No.28741
>>28680
>use that sex appeal to accrue power and influence
Because the nature of that usage isn't complex. Making that pussy pop for someone with money ain't exactly rocket science. She's selling herself, which means she's only as "genius" as any actor, model or whore. She was simply fortunate enough to be noticed by Spielberg (and there's very little to suggest it was anything more than luck). He was an up and coming director at the time and needed a PA. Big whoop.
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No.28746
>>28741
You're trying to argue with a schizophrenic and contrarian idiot incapable of any reason. Disney execs are the only ones with any brains, but that faggot actually believes Kennedy is part of some Disney (or greater) Illuminati.
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No.28766
>>28746
>Hurrr, all my enemies are dumb
>Y do I keep losing tho?
Just because you dislike someone, doesn't mean they are stupid. Just because someone does bad things does not mean they are stupid. Stop viewing intelligence through the lens of your own morality. If Kennedy is so stupid, why is she more influential than you? If you're so smart, why can't you influence the world at the same level she does?
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No.28769
>>28766
>all
>continuing to put words in our mouths to keep going
Just get out already.
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No.28771
>>28769
>Hurrrr, stop actually taking what I say at face value
>You need to intrepret the dumb bullshit I spout in a way that makes me not seem dumb
Where's the evidence that Kathleen Kennedy is stupid? Her being dumb is a meme spread by idiots who don't like what she's done and who are too afraid to admit that people can be both smart and evil. Just give one example of her being stupid. Being a bitch does not equal being stupid, saying things that make you angry does not equal being stupid.
And before you low IQ faggots acuse me of being a Disney apologist, which I know you will, because you associate smartness with goodness and you can't comprehend viewing someone you dislike as competent, no, I don't like Disney Wars, I absolutely despise it. When you underestimate your enemies you set yourself up for failure, even if Kathleen was a drooling retard, which she's not, you should assume she's a genius so you stay on your toes. Remember how all you retards we're excited about her getting fired over Solo because some dipshit YouTuber who makes gossip videos told you she would be? Do you know what type of people believe unsubstantiated rumors simply because they like what they imply? Those people are called naive fools, useful idiots, cattle.
Now go ahead and report me again like you did in that other thread so the hot Pocket can come and delete all my posts since you don't know how to argue with them.
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No.28772
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No.28773
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No.28776
>>28771
At least keep your attention-whoring to one board, I wouldn't want /strek/ to be filled with posts about how getting even normalfags to dislike what you've done to the brand is some sort of Hollywood 4D chess. Sure, these people may be as smart as you claim- but that doesn't mean shit when the stuff they're making is now generally disliked. Marketing can't save the reputation of a dying corporation.
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No.28777
>>28771
>Now go ahead and report me again like you did in that other thread so the hot Pocket can come and delete all my posts since you don't know how to argue with them.
So you were the one responsible for all that spam and false flagging across numerous threads? Why are you acting as if that's something acceptable? Of course you're gonna get reported for being a spamming and shitposting faggot. The fuck is wrong with you, you paranoid loony?
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No.28780
>>28654
>>28680
When using your body to acquire a position that requires creativity and intelligence, yeah then you're pretty damn stupid, especially when after you get the job, you prove that you lack either quality. It doesn't take a genius bitch to use her body to get ahead in life. Its practically a primitive instinct that's pre-written into them. She who fucks the tribal chief gets to sleep in the chief's fancy hut and eat his fancy grub.
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No.28781
>>28777
>>28776
>>28773
>>28772
>Not a single example of how she is stupid
Pathetic.
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No.28782
Kennedy is obviously not dumb. She is malicious. This is about destroying and corrupting what white males like. If you believe, 'it's about money' or 'they're retards' you're delusional.
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No.28783
>>28781
>approved the decision to nuke continuity and alienate long-time fans from the get go
>allowed nuWars writers to waste their "creative freedom" on rehashes of old EU content and recycle the plot of A New Hope instead of doing anything original, further alienating old fans, those who hated the EU, and new fans alike
>allowed Star Wars game rights to handed over to EA instead of maintaining LucasArts as a dev studio
>did nothing to prevent the train wreck that is TLJ, alienating all fans even further
The burden of proof is still on you Alderaani.
>>28782
Never make the mistake of assuming the two are mutually exclusive in any way. It doesn't take some sort of genius to subvert and destroy, merely the ignorance of the target is required.
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No.28787
>approved the decision to nuke continuity and alienate long-time fans from the get go
>allowed nuWars writers to waste their "creative freedom" on rehashes of old EU content and recycle the plot of A New Hope instead of doing anything original, further alienating old fans, those who hated the EU, and new fans alike
>allowed Star Wars game rights to handed over to EA instead of maintaining LucasArts as a dev studio
>did nothing to prevent the train wreck that is TLJ, alienating all fans even further
So she subverted Star Wars and degraded an important part of American culture. How does that make her stupid? Once again, her doing things that make you angry does not make her stupid. You are assuming her intentions were to please Star Wars fans, and because she failed to do that, she's stupid. When it should be obvious that that was never her agenda. So you are judging her from a faulty framework.
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No.28788
>Never make the mistake of assuming the two are mutually exclusive in any way. It doesn't take some sort of genius to subvert and destroy, merely the ignorance of the target is required.
Being and idiot implies incompetence, and yet she has succeeded in destroying everything we like about Star Wars. If she was an idiot, then we would still be seeing the occasional good piece of Star Wars content as she wouldn't be able to stop it from coming into existence. And yet we aren't seeing that, there is a continuity of themes, messages, and narratives in all of Disney Wars. An idiot could not pull that off. I stand by the fact that she is a smart bitch. You all keep on saying it's the Disney Execs who are the real smart guys, while forgetting to realize that she is also an Executive who's been in Hollywood for decades. If she was so stupid, she would not have lasted this long.
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No.28789
>>28787
She made the cultural juggernaut that is Star Wars unprofitable and devoid of wider interest, which I doubt was the purpose of Disney purchasing Lucasfilm. It is now biting into the parent company. Her reputation is now tarnished, whatever the newsmedia squawks.
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No.28790
>>28696
Eat Bantha Poodoo Skug. This thread is about more than just politics.
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No.28793
>>28787
>>28788
Again, in an industry full of leftists that isn't exactly much of an accomplishment. If she was actually competent at that goal, the propaganda would be hidden within works that are actually good. It's hard to call Disney Lucasfilm that when more than half the writers can't keep their shitty politics to themselves for long enough to actually think of a competent way to integrate them into the stories they write.
And you forget that nepotism and cronyism are very real things in the entertainment industry. You don't need to actually be competent as long as you know the right people. If she was actually competent, we wouldn't be having this conversation- as the subversion would be be to slow to notice until it reached a critical point some years from now.
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No.28794
>>28789
>Made star Wars unprofitable
Source? Someone is celebrating prematurely as idiots tend to do. The war has only just begun. At best Solo is a single battle that we won, but one battle does not win a war. If Episode 9 is profitable you will have egg on your face, I hope Episode 9 is a flop, but I'm not going to act like it's a sure thing. Our biggest hurdle is going to be the Mandalorian which they will use to try to bring back all the dudebro faggots with Bob's Fett tattoos and Darth Maul shirts. They are putting that out before Episode 9 for a reason.
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No.28795
>if she was actually competent at that goal, the propaganda would be hidden within works that are actually good
That's a lot of assumptions. The purpose of what she's doing could truly be demoralization. Make absolutely disgusting garbage and try to browbeat the public into liking it, causing emotional stress and durress in Star Wars fans who are forced to watch as something they love is raped while the critics cheer on the rape.
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No.28802
>>28771
The issue isn't that she's stupid; no-one is claiming that. The issue is that you're claiming her use of her body is the main indicator of her intelligence, which, as >>28741 points out, doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
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No.28803
>>28795
Well obviously that tactic backfired severely. Even on outlets favorable to the mouse, you see tons of comments critical of the new films, canon, and the people behind it before they get their comments deleted. Backpedaling on poor decisions and trying to claim that they actually are part of some grand plan is not the tactic of someone who is winning.
It's certainly possible that is indeed the case, but I find it more likely that nuLucasfilm is just full of incompetent shits that can't do anything but destroy what they touch. You're not entirely wrong, but it's easily explained as a piss poor attempt at damage control- rather than an intentional strategy.
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No.28804
>>28781
You're asking people to prove a negative - stupidity is an absence of intelligence. The burden of proof is on you to prove that she is in fact smart.
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No.28808
>>28788
>Being and idiot implies incompetence, and yet she has succeeded in destroying everything we like about Star Wars.
And that wasn't her aim. Her aim was to reinvent into a re-visioned success where everyone love the new. If she was as smart as you think she is, Disney Wars in all its endless faggotry along with TLJ would be celebrated without question. But it isn't. She fucked up. And now she has egg on her face. She was just a lucky bitch.
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No.28810
>>28783
>Never make the mistake of assuming the two are mutually exclusive in any way. It doesn't take some sort of genius to subvert and destroy, merely the ignorance of the target is required.
Genius and stupidity are not the only two options. Kennedy is competent at what she does.
Is there an influx of Geeks and Gamers listeners here all of a sudden or something? Kikes don't like us. They are attacking us all across society. Star Wars wasn't miraculously spared. This is deliberate.
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No.28841
>>28771
Well, Disney Star Wars has been a huge failure of a propaganda operation. The result is that more people dislike the movies, more people dislike Disney as a company, more people are aware of terms like "Mary Sue", and are having conversations about how diversity for the sake of diversity, and forcing personal politics into something doesn't make for a better story. Hell, I've heard more than one person say TFA was the trigger point that made them start listening to alternative views, and eventually end up a part of the alt-right.
The smart way to go about doing something like this is to make something like Star Trek TNG. A show filled with propagandistic messages, that has probably sold thousands of people on the ideas of globalism and socialism, feminism and anti-racism. Just by being a good product first, and slipping that shit in on the sly.
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No.28880
the whole futurist concept of disregarding history and tradition falls in line with Marxism. you can clearly see this in TLJ, especially fake Yoda burning the temple and telling Rey-Sue that she has no need of the accumulated wisdom of centuries, as well as that hackneyed line about killing the past.
>>28568
this. I read a really good piece on the Blue Church vs the Red Religion, it provides much insight into what's happening now.
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No.28897
>>28880
>the Blue Church vs the Red Religion
No offense, but this sounds like it's equating the two and therefore centrist garbage.
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No.28898
>>28559
>Their stupidity was indeed a saving grace.
"Stupidity" isn't the right word. The best way to describe them would be non-creative, incompetent and talentless hacks which is exactly why they spread their disease with established franchises to begin with. Those soulless vermin can't produce, they can only destroy and this is their biggest flaw.
>>28605
They're ready to sell their own mother if it can benefit them in any way, they're ready to stab each other to death if they can get something out of it, do you really think they know something about respect? They're not humans and they have no morality.
>>28766
>why can't you influence the world at the same level she does?
The reason can be moral or even laziness, not just intelligence. Also lack of connections or maybe him being a man, not a woman who can whore herself out to get said connections, that would be the easiest way to gain influence, even if you're lazy. Nowadays business or getting profit in general is about exploiting stupid retards anyway, see Patreon, one of the biggest scam platforms. You don't have to be some kind of a mastermind to exploit someone or even get somewhere through connections, the world isn't black and white for fuck's sake. People today can tolerate almost anything, to the point that leftists or kikes insult these people directly, they don't even hide their views and nobody gives a shit as you can see unless you're "racist" and the only people who would destroy you are the ones who control the media.
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No.28899
>>28897
I think he's referring to the "Red Empire/Blue Empire" concept, which is a way of conceptualising the main power struggle that has been taking place since the end of WW2. It's a pretty interesting idea.
https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2007/08/secret-of-anti-americanism/
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No.28900
>>28897
it might sound that way due to the labels used, but that is not the case. the Red Religion, or Trump Insurgency, is a radical departure from legacy methods of gaining control and consensus.
https://medium.com/deep-code/situational-assessment-2017-trump-edition-d189d24fc046
https://medium.com/deep-code/understanding-the-blue-church-e4781b2bd9b5
both of these are worth the read. they analyze the culture war and cut through all the noise we're hearing.
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No.28920
>>28900
<"While tribalism (nationalism) can be very potent in the short term, it is ultimately a deeply unstable ship to navigate the oceans of the future."
This guy absolutely reeks of pseudo-intellectualism. My mind just translates everything he's rambling on about into "this is an r/The_Donald post," with the way he's writing basic bitch shit about the further expansion of the internet into people's lives and the "rising tide of alternative media." And all that inconcise rambling! All his shit about "collective intelligence" is just a fancy word for "group" or "tribe" (or ethnicity, but it seems he doesn't realize that). Groups take on organized ideals and sins -no shit, genius!
Every 5 paragraphs of text contains about 1 sentence worth of thought.
<"Can you say “Emperor Trump?""
Pure cringe. This was not worth the read, and digging into this guy's other posts just makes him look like even more of a massive waffling faggot.
Anything insightful in these writings is overshadowed and better presented by Ted Kaczynski's "Industrial Society and Its Future" from 24 years ago. Read it if you haven't.
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No.28921
>>28899
I suppose so, but the idea that the US was propping up the Soviet Union is a bit out there. My main gripe is that he tries to hard to play big brained centrist in his definition of anti-americanism. Otherwise an interesting read.
>>28900
>>28920
It's a better explanation of the idea, but those articles got very rambling. Being concise is not their strong point.
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No.28926
>>28921
It's retarded. The article says shit like, "Dick Cheney is quite a nice guy."
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No.28943
>>28920
>Ted Kaczynski's "Industrial Society and Its Future" from 24 years ago. Read it if you haven't.
I'll check that out.
>>28921
admittedly, they were rambling and a bit tl;dr. I'll attempt to summarize:
*the Left has had moral ascendancy since the Civil Rights era
*the Left, and the political establishment in general, is used to propagating its ideology through the top-down structure of old media
*information technology enables the proliferation of decentralized networking. this allows ideas and narratives (that rise above the noise) to gain exposure and influence, while completely side-stepping the established gate-keepers.
*the increasing irrelevance of the establishment and its media, the fault-lines and weaknesses within Leftist ideology, and the challenge presented by decentralized ideas & actions (meme magic, etc) is causing serious frictions in society.
here's a more concise article, with a take on the failings of the current left: https://outline.com/TXW6L8
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No.29027
>>28771
I hate you fuckers (and 8fag in general), so I like this poster.
Please, continue.
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No.29029
>>29027
>Fake Rakatafag
>butthurt saging
Stop stealing my flag kike.
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No.29031
>>28880
>marxism
Contextually yes, but without context the act of burning "wisdom" and burying the burden of history is clearly fascistic act of pure beauty.
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No.29032
>>29031 (me)
not aldeeran fag
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No.29042
>>29027
So are you from reddit or 4chan?
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No.29053
>>28926
He could be. Haven't met him.
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No.29198
>>29029
This is why forced flags are a mistake. No.
>>29042
I'm from the planet Your Mom, in the galaxy Is-A-Whore
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No.29212
>>29198
Just pick another flag cuck, you're clearly not cool enough to be using the Rakata. Also go back to whatever shit board it is that you like.
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No.29237
>>29212
>cuck
/pol/ is that way.
>>>/pol/
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No.29244
>>29237
And you're a newfag to boot eh? Last I checked more than just /pol/ called people cucks. Still with how triggered you are you sound like /leftypol/
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No.29248
>>28794
You do remember that merchandise was always a massive source of income, right? Do you now also recall how tons of toys have been rotting in shelves, no matter how much marketing was applied?
That aside outside of maybe TFA I don't think any of the movies made a (significant) profit since, again, you have to include marketing costs.
Adding onto all of that TLJ has indeed broken the spell and many normalfags have begun to realize how derivative and downright mediocre TFA was. Jew Jew is a hack that can't make a good movie when starting from a blank slate and all the tools necessary are given to him. Expecting him to able to salvage the complete and total shitshow that is SW after Rian was done with it is pure fantasy.
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No.29252
>>28598
>no peasant was allowed to criticize it lest you'd be accused of being a sexist/racist/homophobic/bigot and have your social life or credibility ruined
Is this how life in USA really is like? Holy fucking shit… please tell me you were exaggerating.
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No.29253
>>29252
When you aren't on the internet, you are pretty much fine to say whatever so long as you aren't around nogs or at a college. Online however, there are a lot of faggots running around trying to get people fired or attacked for opinions about just about anything.
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