No.28001 [View All]
Can we talk about how good Rogue One is? I think that it holds up better than any of the other Disney-era Star Wars movies thus far. Sure, it probably does not work for someone without much familiarity with the wider franchise, but it really does complement the viewing experience of A New Hope.
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No.28195
>>28194
And the fucking fuel bullshit that's only there to try and justify issues in TLJ. It's so unexciting, and the unstable time limit/refinery feels so contrived. Also apparently one little briefcase of fuel is a lot? I feel like for how condensed it is we should have seen it used as a bomb by now.
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No.28208
>>28177
He's a naive nice guy who just wants to do the right thing, who after being fucked over time and time again becomes bitter and cynical. I thought it was fine. He was likeable to me.
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No.28211
>>28208
>nice guy
He shouldn't be a nice guy though. He should be a guy struggling to get by through any means, especially selling spice/drugs which the film ignores, instead replacing the shipment with fuel. Sure, fuel can also be illegal goods but it doesn't really show the criminal side of Solo as much as Spice would've.
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No.28212
>>28208
>naive nice guy who just wants to do the right thing
Deja Vu! I've been to this place before!
Also he starts the movie committing grand theft auto in a slum. His character is being pulled in opposite directions and results in a nobody, really.
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No.28221
>>28211
I think it's fine for the movie to start Han out that way. The problem is he ends that way too. Han should start hopeful, then grow cold and selfish, after having his heart broken, setting up his subsequent character growth in the OT.
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No.28225
>>28212
This basically. Its a conflicting mess. I still want to know what the original cut of the film before Howard and Kennedy intervened would've looked like.
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No.28227
>>28212
Is Rey ever really nice though? And does she actually want to do the right thing, or are her goals mostly self serving?(find muh parents, or substitute with surrogate parental figures)
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No.28229
>>28225
I would guess L3 was a throwaway gag character, who doesn't get a heroic death, and doesn't become the brain of the Millenium Falcon, and She-Ra never joined the Falcon crew.
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No.28232
>>28227
She cut a basketball out of a scavenger's net, I think that makes her the same as Jesus but female and less problematic.
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No.28235
>>28227
Rey kind of reacts however the plot needs her to. She needs to go with Han? She's eager to join the Resistance. She needs to get captured? Then she scared of the force and just wants to go home so she runs off. She needs to beat up Kylo Ren? Then she's angry he killed his Dad, whom she's known for ten or eleven hours.
Second movie is the same thing. She's now a full member of the Resistance despute joining a few days ago, eager for Luke's help.She's not angry at Kylo anymore, she is horny, so horny she goes to him right when Snoke needs to die. Then she hates him again and leaves. Then she goes to rescue the Resistance and is happy to see people she's known for a few days.
She kind of wants to know who her parents are even though she was old enough to scream "Come Back!" At them as they flew off. She's just this ball of grunts and angry faces that behaves and feels whatever is necessary to go to the next planned out scene.
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No.28282
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No.28295
>>28269
What do you get out of the death of too poorly defined characters in a poorly defined relationship? Honest question. I understand mechanically why that scene is supposed to be sad, but they didn't do the work to make me feel anything.
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No.28317
>>28299
Do you just tear up on cue if the music gets sad?
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No.28366
It's literal trash along with Solo. The only watchable disney wars is TLJ.
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No.28370
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No.28386
>>28384
A talent-less faggot hired by a multinational corporation to pedal their propaganda can not be "based".
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No.28389
>>28386
>pedal
peddle
>>28387
Go back to /tv/ faggot your retardation doesn't fly here.
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No.28393
>>28389
Where are all these /tv/ faggots coming from? Its been nothing but /tv/ shitposting since yesterday.
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No.28477
>>28393
It's just 1 or 2 people, anon. He/they could'v come freom anywhere.
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No.28485
>>28477
It's the rianfag from /tv/. He pops over here every so often and makes a shitty thread.
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No.28574
>>28477
He was from /tv/ although idk if he posts anywhere else I recognize the copy paste post as something he constantly litters /tv/ with.
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No.28575
>>28574
Is this the Rianfag?
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No.28576
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No.28582
>>28575
Zach? Quite possibly as he has a similar posting style, also copy pastes responses and likes to shit up star wars threads. Pic pissed him off a while ago.
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No.28583
>>28576
jesus fucking christ that's not how you crossboard:
>>/cow/375302
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No.28584
>>28583
And then I fucked up myself: >>>/cow/375302
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No.28656
>>28584
Does he have a mental problem or something or is he just a dedicated shitposter?
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No.28707
>>28656
He'd claim he's a shitposter but the reality is he's got massive mental issues. But then I think most shitposters have issues.
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No.28715
>>28707
Rian posts and melts down when anyone posts tits….. so yeah he has problems.
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No.29757
>>28001
Rogue One wasnt good op. You just view it as good because of how shit the other disney movies are. R1 is shit too. Never forget Kyle Katarn got replaced with this shit, and most of the stuff from his vidya stolen
>A character who is "not" jan ors claims she wont help the rebellion (after the empire killd her mother and took her father) only for her to spend some time fucking around before deciding she'll help them
>Her mother instead of going along with the empire and her husband decides to have it out with the "not" Dark Trooper
>We get multiple characters who get almost 0 development because there isnt time to do so in this film
>fuck around fuck around oh daddy knows that theres a weakness and we need to get the plans
>random black dude who has no back story in the movie is blown up and Im suppossed to care
>Massive battle in which tons of rebels are killed in order to get the plans seems to have no impact to the battle for yavin in the sequel
>droid to provide comic relief because the "not" dark forces characters are busy not being used for anything till they die
Its just not good.
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No.29808
Does anyone else hate the fact they retconned the Death Star exhaust port to be an intentional weakness? It's just stupid trying to justify something that didn't need to be at all. Stupid redditors say the Empire were stupid having it, but do you really expect the designers of a moon-sized battlestation to be able to point out and fix every minute structural flaw on a project of that scale? Even with the flaw, when Red/Gold Squadrons flew out from Yavin IV to put a proton torpedo in there, most of them died due to the heavy defenses from the turbolaser emplacements. Luke even had his torpedo bounce off the ray shielding and had to use Jedi powers to hit his mark.
If it were anyone else in the pilot's seat, the entire Rebellion would have been wiped out. Fuck this movie, and fuck Star Wars "fans" for liking it.
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No.29809
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No.29810
>>29808
I guess they really wanted to go the extra mile to show how "speshul" and "deep" their new movies are at the cost of any consistency. It just irks how so many people (Disney fags, normalfags and even some anti-Disney fans) will defend this movie and all of its flaws.
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No.29811
>>29808
More than that, redditors are lasering in on Bill Nye-tier "lel Y doesn't that happen" criticism and showing they don't understand writing in the slightest. The whole point of the story is that the Empire didn't see this small but critical weakness. It's supposed to represent Imperial arrogance and overreliance on their perceived superiority, why else do you think Tarkin refused to evacuate even when told about the weakness? ANH isn't exactly Dostoevsky novel, that kind of theme should be easy to pick up on, yet the redditors can't even do that.
Next they'll be asking why the Resistance didn't just use the eagles to fly to the hidden base.
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No.29821
>>28005
props to getting so many salty replies, newfriend. i like you.
>>28001
honestly i love the film but it is a total shitshow. the editing is ass, and that fucks with everything else - the story, the characters, it's a giant misstep. they would have been better off with keeping jyn's mom as a runaway jedi, it would better explain jyn being able to have a badass grrl power moment instead of just being written in for sjw points. spanish kyle is legitimately the only interesting character, and that stems highly from the fact that he's the nu kyle of disney wars. reddit droid (i'm gonna call him r3po from now on, or r3 for short) isn't funny, the deadpan effect doesn't work with a droid, look at r2 and c3po, there's plenty of emotion in their lines and that's what gives off the humor, deadpan works better with people because you have an actual face to look at to accompany the monotone voice. krennic is dumb as fuck and got what he deserved, so i'm totally fine with him being some little kiss-ass imperial trying to climb his way to the top, only to be stopped by mothafuckin tarkin. vader's castle scene was pointless, i'm not even gonna go into the myriad of stupidity that exists with him building a fortress on the planet where he got rekt by obi-wan, and i don't care what stupid retcon the comics made to justify it, it's still a retarded choice overall. yes, the end scene of him slaying rebels was great, but as already stated before it does fuck with the continuity of a new hope. baze and chirut are also okay, i like donnie yen being a stereotypical monk in a scifi setting. granted, this film's shit with the force was made so that we would be more accepting of the shit in the last jedi, so it still fucks with established canon and therefore i cannot accept it.
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No.29834
>>29808
That's why I have this version. Just the Battle of Scariff with 50/60% classical SW music going with it. Fun fanfilm. It still doesn't erase the anti-white/feminist main team but still…
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No.29926
>>29821
>le salt
Go back to twitch.
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No.30017
>>29926
>Go back to twitch
been here longer than you faggot
>>29834
got a link?
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No.30025
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No.30026
>>29808
I'm sure we've been over it, but calling the exhaust port a design flaw has always been stupid.
1.It's a huge moon sized super weapon. It's probably going to need an exhaust port somewhere
2.The port was guarded by gun turrets, and there were plenty of tie-fighters on standby to protect it
3.If it weren't for the convenient presence of a force sensitive kid being guided by the spirit of a powerful recently dead Jedi, no one would have gotten close. Bear in mind all of the Jedi are supposed to be long gone, and knowledge of the force is hard to come by, presumably stamped out on purpose by the Empire
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No.30028
>>30026
this, a lot. the empire was even aware of the rebellion's plan, they realized the trench led to the exhaust port and analyzed the possibility of a successful shot being pulled off. vader is the only known force user left in the galaxy, it's assumed the jedi are extinct. the chances of a force user who happens to have training making that shot is quite literally one in a million, as han said. when red leader had taken his shot and it wasn't a direct hit, the empire pretty much knew their chances of defeat were very slim.
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No.30065
It was a pretty good movie honestly, plus it was a huge refreshment after the gaint shit George and J.J. pumped out.
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No.30086
The only good part to Rogue One was the space battle at the end. Everything else was boring, or fucking retarded.
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No.30094
>>30086
The space battle had its share of retarded parts too.
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No.30131
The only “good” movie Disney could produce would be an unabashedly pro-fascism, pro-Empire film where Vader is the center piece and he hunts down remaining Jedi culminating in him enlisting Boba Fett to help him hunt down a surviving Windu. Throw in some Sheev scenes for good measure. Maybe put Hayden in the suit.
They could do this but will not. They’ve got JEJ and MacDirmand alive for another few years and Sam Jackson is more than happy to do Windu again and they’re gonna waste all of it.
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No.30141
>>30131
>disney can't and wont do this but
A good Star wars film: militaristic Imperial sided movie.
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No.30147
>>30131
worst is that there would be a lots of beaners who would love it; right now Lucasfilm just think they'll get this audience with stupid rebel beaner characters like Cassian Andor, they're wrong…
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No.30148
>>30147
I know some beaners they think Cassian Andor is a faggot, so I don't think CA was intended for spics but rather for 30 something plain Jane types to lust over given that he looks like he is or was part of a boy band.
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No.30149
>>30148
Pretty much anyone I see online who gawks over the Katarn copycat is either some horny tumblr girl or virtue signaling types obsessed with his "diverse" accent.
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No.30150
>>30149
But he really looks stupid and ugly though… He was much more suitable as a beaner thug for multicultural third world post apocalyptic mexicamerican hell in Elysium.
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