No.27720 [Last50 Posts]
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No.27724
This is old news. I feel bad for them, honestly. They clearly wanted to be actual film makers but are completely devoid of any actual talent, imagination, or skill, so they have to spend the rest of their lives talking about the work of actual artists instead of ever creating anything for themselves. They probably shit on George so much because he was everything they wished they could have been, an independent artist who made his way into Hollywood with no family connections and ended up as the most influential American director of the late 20th century, and early 21st century.
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No.27727
>>27720
Everybody knows this already. An even more obnoxious example of their hypocrisy is there Rogue One review. They criticized the movie for many things which they praised TFA for.
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No.27752
>>27720
Both of those videos are criticizing the same thing at first glance: the mindless drones who will consume whatever, regardless of quality or the product's respect for the series' history. In the beginning, there were only two kinds of people: nerds and normies. Now, with the advent of the internet and mass consumerism, we have a third which embodies the worst aspects of both: the soy boy. The soy boy will consume practically anything that companies put out so long as these companies are seen as established by the majority and they make frequent use of virtue signalling. These are the kinds of idiots who will buy a six foot porg plush prior to even seeing the Las Jedi; these are the kinds of idiots who will fill their rooms with a plethora of useless tat from all across the Star Wars range - both old and new - without any real understanding of (or appreciation for) the characters, the wider narrative, or the environments; these are the kinds of idiots who will mindlessly click through top ten lists simply to have "something playing in the background." And, yes, these are the kinds of idiot who won't mind being termed "creepy" by Disney because they've already been conditioned to see themselves as such and will thus assume any identity their corporate masters dole out to them (all whilst hollering about how Star Wars fan must "be better", as if they were in any way representative). It goes without saying that they aren't real Star Wars fans; they're just lost, weak minded folks looking to fulfill that tribal instinct for identity that has been cruelly denied to them by modern society with trinkets and baubles that others of their kind also buy en mass to fill the same hole.
I will say, however, that their point is sort of lost in the second video. The thumbnail makes it seem as if they're going to tear into this grossly vapid and exploitative aspect of popular culture, but they instead spend most of the time ragging on genuine fans for daring to take an interest in the wider Star Wars universe. I get the feeling that RLM know exactly what is up, but they're too afraid to really call companies out so sometimes they'll slavishly revert to attacking the fans instead. It is a shame. Intellectual cowards don't make good cinema, and I suppose that's why RLM have never actually manged to make a great film themselves.
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No.27753
>>27752
>Muh soy bois
Your entire description of "soi bois" is just, "people who spend their time on the same shit I spend my time on, but they're worse than me because I don't like them"
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No.27754
>>27753
>"people who spend their time on the same shit I spend my time on, but they're worse than me because I don't like them"
That's entirely false. You didn't even read what I wrote. It's not a question of time spent; it's a question of genuine investment vs. simply going along with a resurgent trend generated by a media conglomerate.
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No.27755
>>27754
It's self-serving masturbatory bullshit. I'm so tired of people pretending to be superior to other people who are stuck in the same shithole that is the modern culture. So they have worst taste than us, so they have less self-awareness than us, so what? The last thing I want to be is the asshole who just shits on others instead of trying to pull them up from the muck. Anyone who uses the term soy boy is doing nothing more than proving themselves to be completely devoid of empathy. It's like coming up with slurs for drug addicts whose lives are completely devoid of meaning outside of their highs. So you view yourself as superior to a heroin addict? Oh wow, you're so special, you're totally not a loser anymore.
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No.27757
>>27755
>devoid of empathy
It's important to call a spade a spade. The only thing compromise guarantees is the loss of truth. You're not truly emphatic; you're just afraid of confrontation.
>so what
If you don't think the piecemeal butchering and ultimate destruction of a beloved and culturally relevant franchise matters, why in all honesty are you here?
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No.27758
IT's a new trend for lowt soyboys to be cooler than 'those' nerds. It's hilarious IMO.
>>27720
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No.27761
>>27758
But who are the soyboys and who are 'those' nerds?
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No.27764
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No.27765
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No.27771
>>27765
What about when Jay said "Daisy Ridley was charismatic as hell" and and gushed how great TFA was?
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No.27773
>>27765
I am convinced they were paid by Disney. Not on a regular basis, mind you. But certainly for that TFA review. Mike's prequel reviews are a defining part of the Star Wars experience for many people (sadly). There's no way someone at Disney wasn't aware of the cultural pull he would likely have in relation to the first film of a new trilogy.
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No.27774
>>27755
>The last thing I want to be is the asshole who just shits on others instead of trying to pull them up from the muck. Anyone who uses the term soy boy is doing nothing more than proving themselves to be completely devoid of empathy.
You really are a self-righteous tool, aren't you?
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No.27775
>>27755
>soy boy
t.low t soy faggot.
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No.27778
>>27755
>>27774
>self-righteous tool
Would you expect anything else from an Allderaanian?
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No.27780
>>27778
The anon he was crying at was also an Allderaanian.
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No.27781
>>27778
Grand Moff Tarkin did nothing wrong.
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No.27786
>>27727
>They criticized the movie for many things which they praised TFA for.
I still suspect that they were paid off for their TFA review. Even the Plinkett review of it was incredibly low-energy and provided little in the way of actual commentary regarding the film.
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No.27787
>>27786
I don't know. Even their Plinkett review made remarks about "racist fans" over the bullshit JJ started over anyone asking about why Finn was black was automatically a racist. The issue was normalfags thought all troopers even in the OT were Jango clones, so a bunch of them started asking why Finn wasn't a clone. This rustled JJ and Lucasfilm's jimmies so they went on twitter and news sites to bitch to gain pity points. It was the precursor to the Kelly Tran bullshit to gain sympathy so idiots were automatically inclined to love TFA and moronic moral grounds if they didn't want to be labeled racists.
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No.27788
>>27771
>What about when Jay said "Daisy Ridley was charismatic as hell"
I'm still amazed he said that out loud. The woman just walked around with her eyes bulging and her mouth open for the entire movie. She had no compelling character traits and no development. That sort of statement goes beyond mere delusion - it's an outright denial of reality, and one of the reasons why I think they were paid by The Mouse to say nice things.
>>27787
They're certainly further left of center than I'd like. They also seem to be perfectly comfortable beating up on the fanbase, which they misrepresent as a gigantic, writhing mass of pop-culture whores who will buy anything with a brand label (this is certainly true to an extent but this representation lacks any nuance).
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No.27789
>>27787
/tv/ and /pol/ also raided Twitter with a fake hashtag about not watching the movie because it had negroes in it. Of course the shill media gobbled that shit up because it fit right into their narrative.
And, yeah, to this day I can't figure out why RLM sucked TFAs cock so much. I think we can chalk this up to them not really caring that much about Star Wars (Mike even says at much in the prequel reviews), but at this point I'm not ruling out that they were bought off.
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No.27790
>>27789
>And, yeah, to this day I can't figure out why RLM sucked TFAs cock so much
They got bought off for merchandise, not even cash (although strangely Space Cop was finished right around the time TFA came out). But also Mike in one of his loudmouth videos made the drunken claim that JJ would be perfect as the director of Star Wars, so he felt like it was his thing. But ultimately it's because Stoklasa is a director snob. If the movie has JJ Abrams as the director, he'll praise it. If it's Lucas, he hates it.
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No.27791
>>27771
>>27789
> to this day I can't figure out why RLM sucked TFAs cock so much.
TFA was exactly what Mike wanted to watch. It was directed by the person he wanted.
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No.27792
>>27788
This in a nutshell.
>>27790
Possible but you gotta remember something else. They feverishly suck JJ Abrams' cock at every opportunity. A movie could be complete dogshit but as long as JJ is involved Mike will cream his big boy pants. I lost respect for RLM long before TFA when I realized had a clear bias when it came to directors and camera work.
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No.27794
>>27757
>Afraid of confrontation
There is no confrontation that comes from calling people names on the internet, what are you talking about?
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No.27795
>>27794
Some people are so conflict-averse they'll even shy away from fake conflict.
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No.27796
>>27791
>mary sue is totally charismatic and elevates what might be a slightly underwritten character
>that clip is the best example they have
How much were they paid to pretend TFA wasn't a complete shitshow?
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No.27798
>>27796
They were paid with autographed toys signed by JJ Abrams along with a jar full of his semen.
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No.27815
>>27788
>far to the left
They were are typical sjw "the world will end if Trump is elected" low IQ leftists which spilled over into their 2016+ videos and Social media posts. It honestly discredits everything they do because the sjw world view is a denial of reality.
> who will buy anything with a brand label
They say that and then bitch about the fans being a bunch of neck beards for not loving TFA
>>27790
Abrams has to finish a movie of a franchise that he and disney have destroyed all excitement for … I can't wait to see it do poorly and red letter either trying to defend it or pulling a huge cop out like their Half in the bag TLJ review.
>>27796
Notice they have no arguments against the demonstrably true statements that TFA is a bad rip off of ANH & that Daisy Ridley is a
ma-REY-sue he just dismisses it and the fat maladjusted autist ( rich) quickly agrees with him…I am sure they followed this up with an insult against the critics/fans.
What's sad is that they did not have the balls to do "the what's wrong with her face" joke in the plinkett with Daisy Ridley. It fits so perfectly and its pure pottery…. freaking cowards.
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No.27882
>>27815
>They were are typical sjw
Hogwash. "SJW" is a fairly specific term, and none of the RLM people meet any of the criteria. In fact, they made fun of SJWs and political correctness on Half in the Bag before. Maybe they don't like Trump, but you don't have to be an SJW to not like Trump.
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No.27883
>>27882
Yeah RLM are more like gen-x smug nihilistic liberals I would say.
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No.27884
>>27882
Explain the anti-white/men "humor" or their "that's terrible" reaction to tits in B movies. They are redditor sjws.
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No.27895
>>27771
My conclusion here is either they were indeed paid to say this or Jay was letting his penis do the talking for him. Though why anyone would find Daisy Ridley attractive is beyond me, but soyboys are intimidated by curves so little boy bodies are more their style.
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No.27900
>>27895
Nevermind about her body, what about her mouth? That thing is horrifying.
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No.27902
>>27895
>>27900
Jay is a submissive cucked faggot, probably wants her to peg him.
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No.27908
>>27900
Flat as a board, face like a xenomorph, incapiable of acting its disney's lead character REY!
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No.27927
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No.27992
>>27908
>>27927
Quit using photoshop to make her look better.
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No.27993
>>27752
>implying "soy boys" are new
>using cancerous, post-millennial/failed normalfag millennial terminology like a fucking shithead
This is fucking retarded. They've always been around, it's just that nerdy shit is now popular. They're young, consumer normalfags, that's all. Also, people like Boogie2988 are "nerds" so to speak, just not very bright "nerds" with shit taste.
>>27755
>"WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH MUH ELITISM"
>>>/reddit/
>>27727
>le sage is le downboat
>>27720
Shit OP, kill yourself.
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No.28026
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No.28048
>>27755
>mfw it was bait
>mfw I'm the nigger faggot
Flags were a mistake.
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No.28072
I think the most frustrating thing about RLM is how they're nerds in denial about being nerds. They rose to fame making autistically in-depth analysis' of Star Trek and Star Wars movies, and then they turn around and mock people for doing what they did, back when they still cared, picking up the ball where they dropped it.
>Oh Gawd, "internet people" [chuckles mockingly]
Who do they think they are?
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No.28075
>>27789
I think they fell for the hype, and now they feel like idiots, but they don't want to admit that to themselves.
You can see them struggling with cognitive dissonance when they blurt out something like "Star Wars never had any potential as a universe", or double down on their tired Prequel criticism, or drag up some bullshit from the EU that no one cares about, so they can write the whole thing off.
They can't just say "these movies are bad. They're bad because Disney are making them wrong. Disney are making them wrong by doing the exact things we advised a few years ago. These movies are worse than the Prequels that we hate, and worse than the EU that we hate. You CAN do Star Wars right, it has near boundless potential. Disney are just failing at it. J.J Abrams was not a good choice. Rey is not a good character, and Daisy Ridley is not charismatic. You actually have to do something more than try to remake the OT". They'd have to walk back everything they've been saying for years, and their egos are too big to do that now.
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No.28096
>>28075
>You can see them struggling with cognitive dissonance when they blurt out something like "Star Wars never had any potential as a universe"
It boggled my mind when they all agreed with the assertion that there aren't any more stories to be told in the Star Wars universe because there's nothing there beyond the original trilogy. Rogue One certainly has its share of flaws but they scoffed at it for even trying to be a dark, morally ambiguous war movie set in the Star Wars universe, as if such a thing was impossible. I still enjoy their Nerd Crew videos because it rightly lampoons the consumerist soyboys and bug-people pseudo-fans, but when it comes to Star Wars as a whole I'm convinced RLM doesn't know what's good and they don't know what they want.
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No.28098
>>28075
Somebody here had it pegged well when they said that they kept saying they agreed with everything Rian Johnson did 'In Theory.' And you come to realize he made the movie that RLM types had always wanted, but when they saw the final product they saw how worthless it was.
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No.28099
>>28096
I think Rogue One's problem is it didn't go far enough. It still kind of tried to be a run of the mill Star Wars movie with a plucky kid protagonist, and a comedy sidekick, and a dashing rogue, and a whole menagerie of "buy the action figure" characters. It should have just straight up been a war movie about the kinds of guys you always see in the background of Star Wars movies. Regular Rebellion soldiers and regular Stormtroopers. No "will these misfits learn to work as a team?" shit. Actual soldiers, soldiering.
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No.28103
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No.28104
>>28072
>making autistically in-depth analysis'
They were long, that's not the same as in-depth. This is in-depth.
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No.28105
>>27752
> they're too afraid to really call companies out
Either that, or they're paid not to badmouth.
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No.28107
>>28105
I don't think they actually get paid. They're too proud of their status as "rebels" to accept that.
I think they're just dumbasses, and Disney's marketing campaign played them like a fiddle.
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No.28108
>>28099
Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. The problem with RO is that it didn't commit to the original concept of being a darker espionage/war movie. Instead it tread this bizarre middle ground between that and a typical Star Wars film, and as a result fell completely flat.
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No.29155
>>28072
Competent filmmakers, even when it has been proved that they are way worse that Lucas and a good chunk of the people who were criticized by them.
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No.29157
>>28107
Disney bought them with merchandise and flattery. E-celebs are easy as fuck to bribe.
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No.29170
>>29155
They're so terrified to be made fun of that they will never even attempt to make a movie that isn't cloaked in several layers of irony. That shoddy horror short they made as students was probably their best work, just because they were trying.
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No.29173
>>29155
>>29170
My dream would be for Lucas to do a Plinkett review of Space Cop.
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No.29174
>>29170
I´m tired of all that "le irony XD" bullshit that it´s promoted by the cynical society of today, so few entertainment nowadays is sincere and have heart and hope.
Perhaps that´s why so critics like RLM bash the prequels and doesn´t like much the original to begin: They are idealistic space operas that tried to make the espectator fell happy, give him good vibrations and motivate him to be a better person.
But that doesn´t like the normalfags today, they don´t like how these point out how piece of shit they are and how the can change for better, so they called that media "chessy","cringy" and other despective words to try to cover out that they and their attitude is one of the reasons of this depressant world where we live.
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No.29182
>>29173
Lucas is too nice of a guy to ever shit on other people like that. If anything he would give constructive criticism and try to help them become better film makers. They would then reject his advice, shit on him for being genuine, and then Lucas would just give up on them as they can't be helped.
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No.29187
>>27720
The salt in this thread is fucking funny.
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No.29190
>>29187
It's not salt. It's warranted criticism.
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No.29193
>>29182
That's what I'm thinking. If he watched it and went through its problems and expkained what they did wrong, but in a nice, grandfatherly way, Mike would have a hilarious meltdown.
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No.29194
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No.29383
>>27752
These people don't consider themselves creepy because they think they're better than the guys around them. Other guys are rapists because Disney said so but I'M NOT so that makes me superior. They're called "nice guys" by roasties because that's all they can think to offer any one and everyone knows deep down they're utter scum.
Not to rain on your "I'm superior to the average consumer" attitude here but there is nothing more commercial than Star wars. They sold kids IOUs for Christmas when they couldn't product enough toys for them. The only part of Star wars that wasn't main stream from day 1 was the novels and novels are never main stream in this genre. Same way the Game of thrones novels aren't mainstream but the TV series is.
>>27755
When you argue in favour of empathy you prove you are the soy boy type. Normal healthy behaviour doesn't have universal empathy for every freak you run across. Empathy is for someone having cancer, losing a child or having a pet die. Serious issues that require someone to compensate for such a terrible situation. Empathy is not ignoring the beaded eyed freak growing a beard to compensate for a complete lack of masculinity. They are ANTI-empathy because you cannot fix them without causing them enough trauma to man up and stop acting like a child (including wearing a beard in order to appear like an adult, like a child dresses up as a super hero). It's cruel to leave them in a state of arrested development until something happens in life they are unable to cope with. Only through trauma and cruelty can you force these manchildren to grow up enough to deal with the world they live in.
>>27773
Disney doesn't need to give them a dime. Disney just needs to send Z list celebrities to do cameos and they will do anything they want. Landis is a good example of this. You don't give money to youtubers, you throw them merchandise and "hollywood" types for guest episodes. They value that way way more than money.
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No.29386
>>27787
Spite marketing is extremely effective and cheap. Start a fake hashtag, use bots to promote it and your social media network to retweet it and you have news articles on every geek website and mainstream meteor website. Get your actors to slowly comment on it so every day the article resurfaces and you're front line news in every country with internet access.
Even people who don't read the news but do forums will hear about it. /tv/ and /pol/ will make threads on it. /v/ might too depending on the movie. You now have viral marketing done by people outside of your marketing network and all you have to do was get your social media team to write "I hate niggers in star wars" and then one of the social media handlers to write "wow, I hate racists like THIS!" on an actors social media.
Now you understand why all this shit works and why it's done. Warfare became digital, why do you think the media didn't adapt to the digital age too?
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No.29402
>>27789
>about not watching the movie because it had negroes
I believe the claim was that TFA was anti-white male which was correct, unfortunately
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No.29611
>>27720
"RLM" is a pretty funny way of spelling "your mom" :^)
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No.29612
>>29187
Salt? I don't see no salt. How can salt be in this thread?
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No.30425
>>27720
we already knew this when they were sucking JJ`s dick
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