No.21572 [Last50 Posts]
Let's at a you're a senator in the Galactic Senate during the clone wars. What political ideas do you promote? What other senators do you associate with? Which ones would you consider rivals/enemies. What do you think of Palpatine? Are you loyal to the Republic, or do you sympathize with the CIS? What political factions do you support (Militarists, Humanocentrists, Rim Faction, Core Faction,etc)? What is your opinion of the Jedi and their role in the Republic?
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No.21573
Fuck. Typos. The first sentence should be "Let's say you're a senator"
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No.21574
I would be a Republic loyalist, a staunch militarist, and a Palpatine supporter. I would support the Core faction and favor strong central control over the Galaxy. I would also be in favor of curbing the Jedi's power somewhat, and I would be a human and near-human supremist.
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No.21576
>>21572
Any legitimate points the separatist had were discarded the moment they decided to declare war.
that said, fuck the jedi, justice for baby ludi. Only good Jedi is Anakin for his constant heroics and clear display of loyalty to the Republic unlike the rest of the order.
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No.21577
>>21576
>fuck the jedi, justice for baby ludi
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No.21592
>>21576
>Any legitimate points the separatist had were discarded the moment they decided to declare war.
Didn't the republic technically kick off the war by invading Geonosis? The Seps had only detained 3 spies in accordance with the local government.
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No.21595
I make a motion to begin a vigorous twi'lek breeding program to provide the republic citizens with sexy ayy girls.
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No.21596
>>21595
Twi'leks are nice but I prefer reptiles
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No.21597
>>21592
said "spies" consisting of a Jedi acting in official capacity investigating the attempted assassination of a Senator, and his Jedi apprentice who was the only one who got his message of help guarding said senator.
the fact that they were to be executed was a declaration of war in itself.
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No.21599
>>21597
>acting in official capacity
Anakin and Padme certainly were not.
As for Obi-Wan, unlawfully surveilling closed door political conferences is out of scope of a formal jedi investigation. He should have asked the Geonosian authorities for assistance and conducted his search without violating trespass and espionage laws.
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No.21600
>>21597
>>21599
Not to mantion all the Geonosian civilians that Anakin and Padme slaughtered after breaking in. They were defending themselves from an attack.
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No.21602
>>21599
>>21600
Obi-wan's search was legal due to him chasing after known assassin and bounty hunter Jango Fett who attempted to very publicly kill Senator Amidala and then kill Obi-wan multiple times during pursuit. Anakin, his Apprentice, was technically on the same case and his backup. Senator Amidala's R2 unit which was brought with them proved that the Geonosians attacked both Obi-wan and Anakin first.
The Jedi only acted out after the failed execution of all three who were legally on Geonosis due to Jango Fett.
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No.21609
>Only support policies that enhance my wealth
>Accuse anyone who gets in the way of my financial gain of being a pedophile
>Fat pipe to the Separatist leadership because the Republic is faggy as fuck
>Know Sheev is a Sith Lord because of contacts
>Start a HoloNet conspiracy theory about Sheev running a child rape ring that sacrifices children to give him more dark side power
>Program a droid to be a pedo hunter confronting Sheev with evidence of being a Sith Lord and calling it his pedo cult, livestream it to the Separatists
>Sheev rages out at the droid and Force lightnings it to death, exposing him as a Sith Lord
>Separatists play video of this on their news networks around the clock, Republic networks have no choice but to address this and call for Sheev to be investigated
>The Jedi attempt to overthrow Sheev goes more successfully this time, but several of the most powerful Jedi are killed by him before they take him out
>Special election called to replace Sheev
>Declare my candidacy
>Win overwhelmingly on a platform of building a wall around the galaxy to protect against intergalactic illegal immigrants
>Enter "diplomatic talks" about having the CIS pretend to shut down the droid army and make peace with the Republic
>Immediately shut down the Grand Army of the Republic
>Activate the droid army on my behalf to crush all dissent
>I am now the new Galactic Emperor
>Legalize death sticks
>Federal waifubot program for all citizens
>Nabooish swindlers investigated for lying about 6 million Naboos dying in Trade Federation camps
>Senator Padme Amidalabergstein charged with high treason and forced to give all her shekels to orphans
>Outlaw being Rodian
>Bomb the fuck out of Nal Hutta and Nar Shaddaa for being hives of degeneracy
>Flaunt my harem of teenage Twi'lek girls to the galaxy, roasties all kill themselves in a jealous rage and no one hears from them ever again
>Instead of building a Death Star, I go for a planetbound Galaxy Gun and rebuild the Star Forge to pump out Star Destroyers
>Everyone is required to address me as Supreme Generalissimo Jim Joseph Bob Wyatt Billy Niggermania Jeb Bush Coldsteel the Hedgehog
>Rename the Galactic Republic to Spitoon Land
>Make a rancor the new finance minister
>Tell the Jedi that they'll be spared if they submit to my rule
>Reconstitute the Jedi as a taco research organization under the leadership of the Ministry of Tacos, institute casual Fridays
>Disband the Imperial Senate due to their unbelievably overwhelming faggotry
>Force Valve to make Half-Life 3
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No.21610
>Publicly push social programs to get in tight with Organa, Amidala, and their crowd. Only breaking with them to support the war effort, using the bloody history of the galaxy divided as justification for the war to reunify. Being from the mid rim, my planet remembers the bloody faction fighting as we sat on the border of several conflicts that brought smaller wars over the millenia. When the war is over and they start up the rebellion I will squeal to ISB.
>Privately deal in concessions to trade federation that line my pockets and give my world some nice trade deals for pumping information to Gunray thou nothing that would help the CIS war effort directly, mostly dirt on other senators.
>Remain a staunch Republic supporter, as the central government has proven to create the most stable galaxy in history. I have my issues with using the clone army, as they are awfully expensive that made sense at the start of the war, but as it continued I would sponsor measures to try to instate a volunteer military force to replace the expensive clone.
>I support Palpatine as outwardly everything looks on the up and up, I try a bit to curry favor from him but nothing to make me appear like a sycophant. I can see that his power is still rising and want to remain on his good side.
>The Jedi get very little support from me, their lack of oversight bothers me deeply and making them generals by default is an insult to the military academy in my system that has produced numerous more than competent officers that could have been elevated to general. The way they take children and cut them off from their families is also a sore spot as it seems to be an attack on families by claiming they are dangerous for force wielders. The Jedi had baby Ludi for a month, how could they have made that child so dangerous they couldn't be with their mother anymore? I support them being used as law enforcement and diplomats, but they require more oversight than trusting their "always noble intentions"
>CIS sympathy was washed away by the many war crimes carried out by their droid armies. I know they will eventually lose war, as my faith in the Republic is solid, that is why I keep dealing with Gunray because I know he will lose but will still have plenty of influence in the Trade guild. If I had a similar line into the Techno union or Banking clans that I could exploit like Gunray's greed I would. I know they support the CIS but I believe they will survive the lose and will be grateful to have a friend in the senate.
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No.21612
>>21602
>Obi-wan's search was legal
But the methods he used were not.
>Geonosians attacked both Obi-wan and Anakin first.
Got to your local military outpost, break in, and start sneaking around with a lethal weapon or blaster that you draw at the first sign of detection by the guards. Tell me how you would be the innocent one in that situation.
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No.21615
>>21612
>But the methods he used were not.
His methods were actually legal, if it was a regular murder you'd be right but this was an attempted political assassination chasing after the prime suspect who nearly killed Obi-wan.
>Tell me how you would be the innocent one in that situation.
While I wouldn't be, due to the special rights of the Jedi (which I find bullshit) as well as the nature of Obi-Wans investigation the Geonosians were actually the ones who broke the law arrest him without identifying or accommodating him in his search. They were aiding and abiding a prime suspect in an assassination attempt on a Senator. A Jedi carrying a lightsaber is not considered carrying a lethal weapon legally after all.
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No.21619
>>21609
>Know Sheev is a Sith Lord because of contacts
Nah. You are already Maladian'd.
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No.21620
>>21595
>breeding
you can't cross species, what we need is a twi'lek slave girl program
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No.21621
>>21599
>Anakin and Padme certainly were not.
>As for Obi-Wan
all three acted under the guidance of the council, which acted under the guidance of the chancellor. so it was fully legal. the only fault is anakin deciding to go awol with padme and help obi-wan.
>>21600
geonosis is hardly a bastion of civil rights, they operate on a hive/caste mentality, most geonosians are worker drones, only higher ups like poggle the lesser make actual decisions. not to mention they sold workers to the empire to make the death star before sheev enslaved all of them and made them go extinct kek.
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No.21622
>>21576
I agree with the Pentastarfag. While the jedi are indeed our proud protectors with a rich history, their treatment of padawans and their "recruitment" methods are a matter of serious debate and questioning. The Republic should enforce a stronger system of standards upon the jedi regardless if this may hamper their powers since they are already leagues above the average citizen and soldier and they cannot be allowed to continue recruiting infants when studies have proven that force sensitivity as great as any jedis has arisen in locations without jedi influence, such as Outer Rim territories and the planet Dathomir. Their current training and its effectiveness is even more questionable in terms of success rate as even older padawans will only be forced to work in farms on Dantooine or as over glorified lab assistants. They should instead adopt the training methods used by Master Jorus C'baoth whose success rate is phenomenal.
Luke's jedi academy did shit better anyway
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No.21623
>>21622
the jedi only recruit from pre-selected republic worlds, hence the lack of recruits from regions like the outer rim
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No.21624
>>21621
>>21615
>arrest him without identifying or accommodating him in his search
>under the guidance of the council
The Jedi council can't override local laws to that extent without notifying the government prior to the event.
And no, Obi-Wan had already broken the law , they do not "accomodate" him at that point because he already forfeited that right.
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No.21626
>>21623
That wasn't the point, Sheev. My point is that the Outer Rim has produced notably powerful force users as great as any jedi without undergoing the jedi or sith's questionable training which shows that there is no need to recruit any of them as infants. The jedi clearly need to re-examine themselves or have the Republic step in and take action.
<3#JusticeForBabyLudi
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No.21627
>>21624
actually yes, they can and that's why i'm for the dissolvement of the Jedi order as an official republic agency.
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No.21629
>>21623
We wouldn't have them breeding with other alien species. We would have facilities to breed the finest twi'lek women for the republic. Although you also bring up a good suggestion.
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No.21631
>>21624
> local laws
>outer rim
>laws
don't make me laugh, xeno scum
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No.21632
>>21631
The Outer Rim has its laws. They just aren't enforced 24/7 by some bureaucratic senate scumbags who care more about sucking deathsticks and raking that sweet bribe money rather than actually helping their worlds. The Outer Rim is lawful but free. If you end up a slave, its your own fault. Eat shit Core Worlder.
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No.21634
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No.21635
>>21632
<it's your own fault
Yes, because the Hutts are known for utter constancy and fairness.
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No.21636
>>21635
Survival of the fittest, faggot.
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No.21637
>>21636
>Hutts
>fit
Stop listening to the Gatalentans, you are not "healthy at any size" and you never will be.
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No.21639
>>21632
you're missing the point, the outer rim is the afghanistan of star wars. it's a desolate wasteland where there is no proper order, just an attempt at a common sense thing that falls apart the minute you have more than 10 people in an area. so things like anakin and padme defending themselves against geonosians (who attacked first btw, effectively declaring war against the republic) is perfectly legit.
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No.21641
>>21639
If it's so lawless and chaotic, how is 3 people getting killed there cause for immediate galactic-scale war response from the Republic? By that logic, they have casus belli against every planet in the galaxy already. They are still the real initiators of war here.
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No.21644
>>21641
Let me put this in simple terms for you, you outer rim barbarian. If Xixar was to kidnap and execute Jabba's son would that not spark a massive all out war between the Hutt clan and the Black Sun?
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No.21646
>>21572
LotGH is highly-recommended for all Ros/sw/ellians.
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No.21647
>>21644
Bad example. I don't think jabba would care unless he had some kind of investment in him.
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No.21653
>>21641
>attack three republic agents
>not a call for battle
normally you'd be right, but in this case obi-wan's detective work had led him to geonosis and subsequently found that the leadership of the confederacy was plotting for war against the republic anyway, so it happened to work in the republic's favor to attack first.
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No.21654
>>21647
Of course the Trade Federation traitor would dismiss such a thing as a bad example. Remind me why we allow an enemy faction in the Republic Senate?
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No.21655
>>21609
>implying that a Republic made up of over 2,000 different species give a shit about an 'aoc', much less an aoc of fascists
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No.21657
>>21654
That's extremely unfair. Only a portion of the trade federation was responsible for that, and we totally have no intentions of joining the faction opposite the side of the republic in a rebellion.
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No.21658
>>21657
The Republic justice system saw fit to release the Viceroy from imprisonment, and I don't believe the Republic practices double jeopardy. Gunray was an innocent man, obviously.
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No.21659
>>21658
Extreme bureaucracy. Equality/equity in the system allows the corrupt to gain an upperhand. The corrupt corrupt the system in their favor.
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No.21660
>>21658
>The Republic justice system saw fit to release the Viceroy from imprisonment
you know as well as anyone else that the viceroy paid the judges and lawyers to let him off the hook.
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No.21661
>>21660
You also know as well as anyone that starting a war over 3 people is stupid, but it's Republic policy, am I right?
I'm just being a snarky cunt for the RP, obviously
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No.21663
our politics is completely fucked and corrupt on both sides and we are just one planet. imagine what this shitfest would actually be
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No.21664
>>21663
Galaxy-spanning pedo cults that engineered several races of slave children?
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No.21665
>>21663
Imagine a group of elites, above the law, who kidnap children for their sick rituals, and it's all legal, even outright supported by the brainwashed masses.
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No.21666
>>21665
Was George trying to warn us about Washington pedos all along?
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No.21669
>>21666
Who am I, one with evil digits?
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No.21673
>>21620
The midichlorians can make sperm out of nothing, I gotta imagine they can pull off hybrids if they are inclined to.
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No.21676
>>21666
Its funny. George insterted a lot of obvious political jabs in the prequels, yet they don't nearly come off as obnoxious or as blatantly corrupting as Disney's shit.
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No.21681
>>21676
It's because they weren't overly obvious or overly topical. Like George himself said, you could just as easily see the Empire as interventionist burgerland as you could the Britbong empire in the 18th century.
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No.21685
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No.21687
>>21685
Nerotitis, the gayest faggy emperor to ever done fag out of rome?
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No.21689
>>21687
Nah, mang, Elagabalus was the freakiest fag of the bunch.
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No.21692
>>21685
Oy vey, is that Nero, the vicious anti-semite?
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No.21694
>>21692
>>21687
Do remember his personal fuckboy?
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No.21705
>>21661
wars have been started over less
>franz ferdinand
>>21673
>they can pull off hybrids
in a lab, sure. out in nature, hell the fuck no. that episode of the clone wars with the clone who dipped on his duty and settled with a twi'lek and had a daughter, that kid wasn't his in the biological sense.
>>21681
>>21676
george meticulously designed star wars to be able to be told throughout the ages both retroactive and progressive, whereas disney confined it to modern politics.
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No.21780
>>21705
Even the dialogue in Disney Wars reeks of the current era and will feel incredibly dated in a decade, while The Prequels have dialogue which feels timeless and will be just as relatable a hundred years from now as it is today, retards interpret that as "cringe"
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No.25784
Anyone find it deliciously ironic, that had the Jedi been more receptive to Ranuplh's Tarkin's Militarist faction, and created a standing non-Clone army Sheev wouldn't have been able to annihilate the Jedi so thoroughly.
I love how the comics portray him as the bad guy but if he had lived to see his proposal come through, more than likely more Jedi would've survived the attempted purge and be able to fight back in the coming civil war.
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No.25787
>>25784
>Anyone find it deliciously ironic, that had the Jedi been more receptive to Ranuplh's Tarkin's Militarist faction, and created a standing non-Clone army Sheev wouldn't have been able to annihilate the Jedi so thoroughly.
He unironically did nothing wrong and his proposal would've made the Republic look way more moral and humane. Strange how he's portrayed as a bad guy, yet his proposed army would've probably been badass.
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No.25796
>>25787
It's probably a combination of the movie Tarkin being evil, and the values of time. Since he's a racist meanie bigot human supremacist from Eriadu, we have to make him ebil even though his solution would have averted the creation of the Empire.
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No.25799
>>25796
I would've loved to have seen a Grand Army of the Republic that wasn't made up of clone troopers (much like the days of the really Old Republic). The potential for stories there might've been even bigger. Jango could've still been worked in as a trainer for elite soldiers, or have clones only make up the elite units.
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No.25803
>>25799
>or have clones only make up the elite units.
This would also put the "Muh 3 million" argument to rest by satisfying both camps.
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No.25809
>>25784
Who knows- maybe the Sith wanted the Republic to demilitarize, knowing that eventually they would eventually be able to use the situation to take it over from the inside? Though having the Jedi personally command the clones may have been a stroke of luck on the Sith's part. Not that Jedi being involved with the Republic military was anything new however- but the Jedi of the time had long distanced themselves from that role if I recall correctly.
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No.25811
>>25809
>but the Jedi of the time had long distanced themselves from that role if I recall correctly.
I thought a feature of the Late Republic was the Jedi taking an increasingly involved role in the Senate's politics at the expense of studying the Force.
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No.25812
>>25803
Absolutely. That would make so much more sense in the grander scheme of things.
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No.25818
>>25809
>>25799
According to the Essential Guide to Warfare, many Planetary Security Forces fought against the Separatists, and you can see some of them on the Jabiim and Rendiili arc of Republic. Rahm Kota had his own private militia as well which allowed him to survive.
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No.25821
>>25818
Fucking neat. So the clones really were the "elite" while the bulk of the army were actually local planetary/system armies?
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No.25927
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No.25932
>>25927
>Shadow Hand
Heheheheheh… I wonder if their true purpose was setting up the Deep Core for later.
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No.25935
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No.25946
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No.26007
>>25946
What'cha lookin' at, Trooper?
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