No.2026 [View All]
So what exactly did they do wrong besides lose? All they wanted was to not have to pay retarded taxes which is a pretty noble goal. Not to mention:
>Unlike the Recucklic they were transparent that their infantry was disposable
>Didn't want to subjugate the entire galaxy, but secure the outer rim
>Had popular support due to how corrupt and inefficient the Republic was
>weren't entirely just another pawn in (((sideous'))) game in my headcanon
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No.5764
>>5421
He really should've just kill her…
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No.5765
>>5761
>>I gave them away
That's going down a path I can't follow.
I have it on VHS bitches, though I understand most of the reasons for the reedits
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No.5767
>>5765
I gave away my entire SW collection to my youngest brother last Christmas. Hopefully he'll get more enjoyment of it than me - a signed photo of Dave Prowse, the six film Blu-ray set, the OT DVD collection, VHS-es (including a widescreen release of TESB), Kenner toys from the 1970s & 1980s, books, video games, comics, &c., &c.
I'd even be hesitant to call myself a fan these days, as people might assume I am a fan of Disney's nuWars.
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No.5770
>>5767
>>5765
>>5761
>giving away your collections
>not keeping them to remind yourselves of the good times
i can understand distancing yourself from the modern fandom but there's no reason to just give it away.
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No.5771
>>2034
>this video has been blocked by DisJew on (((copyright))) grounds
Figures.
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No.5792
>>5765
>VHS
You should look into digitalizing them, VHS tapes don't last forever.
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No.5794
>>5792
This. I barely remember old SW, because although we still have them, my dad's SW VHS tapes no longer play coherent films.
Also, upload them once you've digitized them please
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No.5842
>>5792
>>5794
I have no idea on how to digitize a VHS tape. I don't think you can pay someone to do it because its on copyrighted material.
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No.5844
>>5842
I have a dvd/vhs player. I bought it off ebay back in 2007. One side records what the other is playing. Maybe you can try and look it up on ebay. Its brand is sony.
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No.5857
>>5844
Could at least find a picture for the anon.
>>5842
Try /tech/ or look on YouTube or something for a how-to video.
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No.5860
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No.12335
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No.12339
So what's the /sw/ approved "final cut" for the films? Personally, I'm fine with most of the new material spliced into the trilogy, such as Jabba in ANH, the Twi'leks extended scene in the rancor pit, and so on. The exception to this is Vader's "Noooo" in RotJ, and adding Naboo to the celebration scenes at the the end. The deleted scenes showing Padme starting the nascent rebellion deserve to be put into RotS.
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No.20639
>>2026
The Separatist were a genuine movement corrupted by (((dark lords))).
Battle droids were a far more humane form of warfare that allowed many to sympathize to their cause.
Darth Tyrannus was not known to be a Sith lord until the end of the war by most separatist and even they had grown to hate the also corrupted (((Jedi))) so it didn't matter.
They were just pawns to create the empire but are one of the most underated factions in star wars.
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No.20643
Was it ever explained why the Trade Federation chose Naboo to blockade? I don't mean the 'Sidious said to' reason, but what was the explanation for why they were there? Did Naboo hold an important place on a trade route?
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No.20644
>>20643
i believe it was implied they had trade disputes in the past, but other than that naboo was iirc a heavy traffic area in the trade federation's routes.
>>12339
the phantom edit for phantom menace (less jar jar, less annoying anakin, inserts some deleted scenes to make up for it)
attack of the clones with some of the deleted scenes put back in (the extra naboo and obi-wan shots)
rots with the deleted scenes (shaak ti's death, birth of the rebellion)
anh dvd/bluray release, but without the awful krayt dragon sounds. i don't know why george kept messing with it, he should have given the banthas a different noise.
empire strikes back dvd/bluray. it's everything in the special edition minus the inserted sheev scream that never really fit for luke's fall.
jedi minus the nooo bit and with the record version of lapti nek, the film version is terrible, also naboo isn't a problem you cuck.
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No.20647
>>20643
Naboo was the planet Palpatine was senator of and the whole point of the crisis was to guilt the galaxy into electing him and Darth Plagueis as chancellor and vice chancellor.
Maul was also there to secure or kill depending on if he intended to serve Sidious or Plagueis.
Qui gon and Obi wan were to be killed on Tatoine and Anakin snatched for a life of a Sith
but they escaped and went back to Naboo.
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No.20653
What did they do wrong? How about the fact that many of their surviving leaders went to join a rebellion against the peace, justice, freedom and security of the empire
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No.20661
>>20643
Darth Plagueis claimed it was related to a plasma deposit that was recently discovered on Naboo. No, that doesn't quite make sense to me either. I think it was an effort to explain what the fuck was that room in the duel scene was.
>>20644
>also naboo isn't a problem you cuck.
Less Naboo and more the Gungan noise it included tbh.
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No.20666
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No.20700
>>20643
>>20661
Darth Plagueis through his Muun bankers got Naboo to take out a loan for the construction of such projects which he knew Naboo wouldn't be able to make the payments on time.
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No.20703
>>20700
How does the Trade Federation figure in? Did the Muun sell the loan?
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No.20706
>>20703
The Trade Federation constructed the projects.
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No.20725
>>2039
>>2032
No, because it would be missing the point of the story that Lucas wanted to tell. CIS were the bad guys in this because of their actions and that's the lesson he's teaching us but more importantly the teenagers and kids watching these movies. There's good actions and bad actions. CIS had valid reasons to combat the republic but their actions were evil, just like Anakin had legit reasons to cut down Mace Windu and save the one who could save his wife but performed evil actions and therefore were portraited in an evil light at that point on.
It's amazing how brilliant Lucas script really is but faggots don't seem to understand the nuances he had in them. Because they all stem from the same problem of being cynical modern soyboys with no sense of classical morality compass and knowing what's right or wrong.
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No.20752
>>20725
>CIS were the bad guys in this because of their actions and that's the lesson he's teaching us but more importantly the teenagers and kids watching these movies. There's good actions and bad actions.
The problem is with this approach is that, at least in the films, we have so few examples of "bad actions" from the Separatists. Their biggest crime was questioning the wisdom of the great and all-powerful Union Galactic Republic. And seeing as they chose a defense force of droids over growing an army of disposable slaves, the CIS practices are arguably more humane than the Republic's.
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No.20753
>>20752
The droids were sapient, though. They showed fear. They're "human" by any arguable standard, even though they aren't made of meat.
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No.20765
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No.20772
>>20753
>The droids were sapient
That was just slapstick in Ep.3 tho. In TPM and AotC they are just droids.
>They're "human" by any arguable standard
lol
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No.20773
>>20753
They really weren't, though, barring slapstick in Ep III as the other guy said. Droids developing true sentience the way R2 and C-3PO did is actually relatively uncommon in the Star Wars universe. It tends to only happen after an extended period without a memory wipe, and even then it's not a guarantee—usually a lack of memory wipe just brings about quirks and erratic behavior.
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No.20775
>>20773
As I understand it, C-3PO is designed for interacting with sentient creatures, so it is entirely reasonable that he would behave as one to better facilitate communication. R2 is an astromech droid, which requires much greater intellect than a BD. And the memory wipes as you mention.
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No.20796
>>20753
Unless they are specifically designed as such, they are not. OOM, B1 and B2 droids are made to be cheap, dispenseable and without true sapience. Just remember that they didn't had a sense of self preservation for start. They started as droids commanded remotely from ships to self contained units, and even so if ordered to march into a pit, they simply would.
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No.31468
how can u be so based as these guys
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No.31470
>>20752
>we have so few examples of "bad actions" from the Separatists.
The Trade Federation's actions in TPM cover that angle, and the viewer is left to assume that other corporate factions such as the Trade Union are of a similar ilk.
But the Separatists could have been introduced in a better light. In both trilogies the only embodiment of pure evil is Sidious himself, and he leads other characters around him (mainly the Skywalkers) to pick sides in their inner moral conflict. Confederates were, like the Senate itself, just pawns, and as such, they need flaws which allow them to be manipulated, like naiveté, ignorance, greed or cowardice, but otherwise can even be well-intentioned fools. Of course, by giving in to the temptation offered by the manipulator, they are gradually corrupted, as Anakin was, but they didn't need to start off evil.
Maybe this would have been too much to show in the movies, which had limited time and had to focus on Anakin's journey to the Dark Side, but it could have been given attention in the EU.
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No.31473
>>31470
>but it could have been given attention in the EU.
It did, the entire Jabiim arc of Republic focused on human separatists which are responsible for one of the biggest Republic losses of the Clone Wars. Not to mention Dooku, Grievous, and the Jango Fett/Mandalorian Protectors had backstories of how they were basically fucked over by the Republic. Not to mention the CIS Shadowfeeds that gave you a different perspective of the war.
The films are hyperfocused on Anakin's fall, the same way the OT is hyperfocused on Luke's journey to become a hero. It's the job of the EU to flesh out the details.
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No.31726
>>31473
>It's the job of the EU to flesh out the details.
If only Disney knew this.
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No.31730
>>20753
>They're "human" by any arguable standard
t. droidlover
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No.31734
>>2026
>So what exactly did they do wrong besides lose?
They were driven by greed.
Nu-CIS is Droid Domain.
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No.33293
Any good books, comics, novels or anything if I want to read more about the CIS side? Perhaps something about the politics?
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No.33295
>>33293
Someone posted a pretty good but small list of a few threads back. No idea where it is now. But the SW Jedi comics in Dark Horse had an issue about Dooku that really paints him and the CIS in a positive light. Yoda: Dark Rendezvous is also pretty CIS-centered.
Here's another list of all Clone Wars media. You might find something there.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Clone_Wars_multimedia_project#Books_and_short_stories
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No.33366
What are your thoughts on Admiral Trench?
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No.33367
>>33366
Cool looking spider dude that showed up out of nowhere in the later seasons.
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No.33371
>>33366
I really like the Idea of seeing more military leaders than only Grevius
The clone Wars added a LOT of cool shit for the CIS
Its a shame that theyre portrayed as mustache twirling bad guys
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No.33377
>>33371
>Its a shame that theyre portrayed as mustache twirling bad guys
That's what bothered me the most. He was so generically villainous as were most CIS characters. Which is odd since that one CIS episode with Ahsoka showed the CIS could be just as grey or moral as the Republic, with the exception of Dooku, who was also reduced into a mustache twirling minion for the show.
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No.33381
>CIS have approximately 10,000 warships vs Republic 1,000
>Still lose
The writing for Star Wars honestly sucks ass and loves to write itself into a hole.
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No.33450
>>2026
The CIS are basically a metaphor for modern non-white hordes (notice the Confederate leaders are all ugly aliens versus the mostly human Republic) being baited into a war against whites by the Jew (Palpatine) and led by a shabbos goy (Dooku) who is ultimately just as disposable as they are. In other words, it's a metaphor for the modern world. George is really way smarter than people give him credit for and he saw all that shit coming from a mile away years ago. Plus the obvious American Civil War parallels that run very much contrary to the "muh raycism" narrative. I am honestly amazed how no one realized back then how super-redpilled Lucas was.
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No.33453
>>33366
Uninspired design for a Lucas alien.
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No.33461
>>33453
Its basically just a giant spider in clothes really. I mean yeah, Chewbacca is just a giant sheepdog, but this guy bothers me for some reason. Not to mention we already had the Aqualish serving as the spiders men of SW along with the Charon (minus the fact that Charon weren't in the galaxy yet).
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No.33464
>>33453
Damn, I kinda liked that guy.
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No.34145
>>33450
> I am honestly amazed how no one realized back then how super-redpilled Lucas was.
Only those with eyes to see and ears to hear have access to these things.
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No.34169
>>4658
>The Superweapons were for the Vong.
no, only an idiot follows this thought process. sheev making the death star to combat the vong makes no sense, why the fuck would he get rid of the senate at the same time if the insurgent deterrent was really meant to be a defense against an extra-galactical invasion? this is the emperor we're talking about, all he has to do is put out propaganda about how the vong are on their way and these weapons are a necessary reaction to their arrival and bam! job done. but nope, he just gets rid of the senate, and alderaan is destroyed to show the galaxy that the empire still rules and no planet is safe.
>>5458
>Also the ridiculousness that was Dorsk 81
ngl i loved darksaber and the jedi academy trilogy. besides dorsk 81 arguably lead the way for starkiller, and both had the same fate.
>>5617
>Dendrosexual
explain this fetish? is this attraction to like tangled hair? or plants?
>>33381
numbers don't win wars, tactics do. the cis just printed out droids and threw them at random planets to keep the republic on its toes as part of sheev's plan.
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