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>Iger wants to fire Kennedy, but nobody wants the job because she put too many of her minions to work at Lucasfilm
ARE WE ACTUALLY WINNING?
Is this the fall of Lucasfilm? Can we expect better things? Worse things? Mediocre things? How fucked are we if Filoni does take Kennedy's place? Should the head of Lucasfilm be replaced by a team of two people? A creative director and a business director? Luceno and some finance expert or something? If that happens, can we safely say our shit has been unfucked? Will 2019 be the deciding year for the future of our franchise? We will somehow unfuck it? Force it to rest in peace? Or reduce it to the point where it just makes toys and games but no movies?
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No.18623
>>18621
Luckily, it's really only mentioned in one book- so it can easily be ignored. Haven't read X-Wing: Rogue Squadron, so it could be worse than being a extremely minor plot point like I think it is.
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No.18632
So when was this huMan trash submitted into cannon?
It's one of those based changes of done before the Disney buy out, but total faggotry if after.
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No.18633
>>18621
>cyborgs are discriminated against in the empire
>despite a Grand Moff and several members of the Imperial Navy having cybernetics
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No.18642
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No.18644
>>18633
Same reason Thrawn got promoted. Prove yourself and actually be a huge benefit to the Empire or get fucked.
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No.18645
http://archive.is/BQvub
>Lucasfilm announces Kasdan (pansexual writer of Solo) is to write Indiana Jones 5
>Disney puts Indie 5 on hold
>rumors of Lucasfilm being put on a leash begin to emerge
OH NO NO NOOOOOOOOO
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No.18647
>>18644
>>18633
This, just like the Jews/half-Jews and foreigners that worked for Hitler, who did nothing wrong tbh.
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No.18649
>>18515
I would love to see a Kevin Smith Shit Wars movie, he would take such a massive steaming shit on the franchise.
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No.18650
>>18518
"reddit normie" rolls off the tongue much better.
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No.18651
>>18650
Reddit and Memey is Rick and Morty.
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No.18653
>>18651
I'm aware. "Reddit normie" has the same number of syllables as "Rick and Morty," and has the benefit of rhyming with it as well. As a result, in my autistic opinion I believe it makes a more poignant filename for your image.
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No.18654
>>18653
That wasn't me, but if I were to look at "reddit normie", I would not think "Rick and Morty"
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No.18677
>>18618
I wouldn't count this as part of canon in any way, and I'm confused as to why Stackpole would even include such bizarre third-wave-feminism nonsense in his book. The wikia article even admits that such sexism was not part of Lucas's original vision, and there seems to be no other use of the NhM terminology in the rest of Legends. It also completely goes against the presence of female Imperial leadership like Isard or Daala.
>>18633
>>despite a Grand Moff and several members of the Imperial Navy having cybernetics
Arguably, Vader is also a cyborg. I think marxist infiltrators in Star Wars just have a hard-on for making the Empire as discriminatory as possible.
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No.18679
>>18677
I could see women perhaps being excluded from the Stormtrooper corp or being in their own units, but complete exclusion doesn't make sense given Isard and Daala. Mara Jade isn't really affected, given how the human high culture thing wasn't a personal belief of the emperor as far as I'm aware.
>I think marxist infiltrators in Star Wars just have a hard-on for making the Empire as discriminatory as possible.
I'm not totally opposed to the empire discriminating somewhat against those groups, but having human women and cyborgs classified as non-human doesn't make sense except for memery purposes. Apparently some writers can't help but portray fictional bad guys the same way they perceive their IRL enemies, or at least stop themselves from sneaking in snarky references.
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No.18693
>Regarding Star Wars: Episode IX, Randolph claims it's "DOA." It's said it's too late to do any course correction for the movie, and Kennedy is letting it all fall on the shoulders of Abrams, and that she has stepped back and has given him complete control.
Someone should say to Randolph how the development of movies work. Episode IX didn't begin filming yet, it is still on a paper; Rogue One had 'course correction' with extensive rewrites and reshoots during the post-production.
Nice bait though, she must have gained a lot of views. I like how everything she said follows exactly the "How to Fix Star Wars 101" motif that fans created.
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No.18706
>>18693
>Rogue One had 'course correction' with extensive rewrites and reshoots during the post-production.
Maybe they can't afford that anymore, also once Abrams takes over something, you're fucked.
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No.18707
>>18677
The empire wasn't even explicitly anti-alien in Lucas's original vision. That was built on in the expanded universe from the single case of Chewbacca being called a walking carpet by an Imperial officer. The only reason that the Imperials in A New Hope were all human is the same reason they were all British: Lucas hates being told what to do and was retaliating against having to comply with English film industry union laws by putting them all at villain table (except Peter Cushing, who was cast as Tarkin from before that point).
The fact that there were female Imperial leaders, however, wouldn't mean there couldn't have been general discrimination against women given how the same incarnation of the Empire would tolerate aliens if they were especially useful or Sheev discovered they were Force-sensitive and could be trained as Dark lackeys. I was always confused a bit as to why Sidious would permit that kind of crass bigotry in the Empire instead of embracing a pure meritocracy like the historic Sith operated on for the most part. Maybe "because "racism and sexism will strengthen the Dark Side" but that's corny as hell even for Star Wars. Even in SWTOR where the Sith Empire has to carry the racism ball, being Force-sensitive automatically kicks you to the top of the pecking order above any human or ultra-rare member of the Sith race without a Force connection.
>>18679
Something that's interested me is that Disney's version of the empire isn't sexist and doesn't have anti-cyborg bias but is stupidly racist to the 88th degree. It's even more abusive to ayys than you see in the vast majority of Legends/Old EU material. If the purpose is to use the Empire as a ham-fisted, leaden bludgeon to refrain about how BIGOTRY IS BAD then why not make the Empire even more misogynist and "ableist"? Given how the soy crop reacted to Finn getting slapped in TLJ, I can only speculate that even the depiction of sexism for a contrary example triggers poison dart whales to the point of Twitterrhea. That it's something simply so horrible and disgusting to them that they can't even let their bad guys do it to suggest that it's wrong.
>>18693
I'd argue it's not premature to call it dead on paper. They have no fucking idea what they're doing and are ideologically, morally opposed to understanding why.
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No.18711
>>18707
>That was built on in the expanded universe from the single case of Chewbacca being called a walking carpet by an Imperial officer.
Leia called him a walking carpet. The officer called him a ‘thing.’ Why that meant the Rebellion was speciesfluid and the Empire were alt-sith bigots is some EU thing but it kinda works so nobody complained.
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No.18717
>>18707
disregarding Disney Wars, I always thought the Empire wanted to maintain human dominance of the galaxy.
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No.18720
>>18711
My mistake on the quote attribution.
>Why that meant the Rebellion was speciesfluid and the Empire were alt-sith bigots
It was really just to make the Empire look more transparently evil and Nazi-like. It was also something that was addressed by the EU first in Zahn's Thrawn trilogy in which I think it was conjured up as a force that Thrawn had to overcome in order to make him look that much more threatening and competent. If the Empire is generally racist against non-humans, then a non-human who made it to the rank of Grand Admiral and was now in charge of the whole Imperial Remnant of any significance had to be the real deal.
>>18717
What does the Empire gain from human supremacism? It just makes the Galaxy harder to control. Zahn even has Thrawn bring this up in his first Disney novel. The explanation there is how many nonhuman species were disproportionately involved with the Separatist movement to which Thrawn retorts that there were clearly species which were majority loyal but were still treated as subhuman. The implication is that the Empire uses racial tension to keep the masses divided, which is dumb because simply dividing the social strata between human and non-human without at least taking Thrawn's nuance into account just ferments sedition.
It doesn't make sense in either canon especially considering that the later incarnations of the Empire in the Legacy Era, the Fel Dynasty, is successful and a lighter shade of grey in part because it abandons racism and just becomes a force of monarchism and strong political hierarchy. And again, what is Palpatine's stake in the matter? In the Disney canon it's implied that the Empire was only a means to another end and he really doesn't give much a fuck about it as long as its existence keeps threats to his Master Plan in check, but in the Old EU he wanted to rule the Galaxy forever according in large part to Sith philosophy. Since the Sith prized strength, talent, and ability above everything else, what was the point of Human High Culture? A distraction for the normies? Creating more hate batteries for Sith sorcery?
I know that the out-of-universe answer is "Racism is bad!" but I'm surprised nobody really tried to deconstruct this in the EU, or at least I never read about it.
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No.18721
>>18707
> why not make the Empire even more misogynist and "ableist"?
Because SJWs have this weird hangup about portraying actual bad things happening for some reason. They think portrayal is endorsement half the time. Ironically, this ends up with many characters/historical figures they consider evil ending up a lot more blameless morally.
>>18720
>It was really just to make the Empire look more transparently evil and Nazi-like.
I agree, but having every faction be pro-alien wouldn't be quite as interesting. The Imps being anti-ayy at least gives you some interesting story opportunities. also, they're quite tame compared to Pious Dea or 40k's Imperium of Man
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No.18731
>>18619
Well that's odd, apparently there are two links, one named 'NonHuman' and one 'Non-huMan'… The 'Non-huMan' link goes back to 2006 and changes from a list in 2007 & the 'NonHuman' link goes back to 2007 and changes from the same list in 2009
https://web.archive.org/web/20080830084954/http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nonhuman
https://web.archive.org/web/20090227021235/http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/NonHuman
https://web.archive.org/web/20060907215710/http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Non-huMan
https://web.archive.org/web/20070211145950/http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Non-huMan
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No.18732
>>18731
Did we just uncover some sort of gay and autistic conspiracy?
also I miss that old wikia theme, apparently you can force it if you want- but it's all but gone now
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No.18733
Here's the edit history in case anyone wants to look through things.
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No.18738
>>18731
>>18732
>>18733
Something smells fishy on Dac. What could this mean? Could this have been part of a plot by Jeffbacca?
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No.18787
>>18679
>but complete exclusion doesn't make sense given Isard and Daala.
Sexist characters that are only there to appeal to the white males fantasy aren't canon sweetie. 😘
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No.18789
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Apparently Kennedy is leaving in September. So, if she does, what's next? Do we hope her successor is a good and trustworthy soul or do we try and crash this plane with no survivors so SW can never be horribly raped and mutilated like this again?
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No.18790
>>18738
I'm curious now. Does the book actually say "non-huMan" or "non-human"? Even if it does, it would be silly to classify human females as "non-human".
>>18787
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
>>18789
Is that even a question?
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No.18807
>>18789
>>18790
So do we go full Admiral Ackbar on Disney then?
This would've worked so much better if it had been Ackbar instead of Holdo who suicide bombed. Disney Wars couldn't even do that right.
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No.18814
>>18789
Crash the fucker for the lol of it. Make the mouse feel some pain for snorting sjw shit.
>>18807
That would of been pretty based
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No.18817
>>18789
The leadership of Disney is either too incompetent to right the ships of its properties currently being co-opted by political operatives or has too many members sympathetic to their views. They can't be trusted to be good stewards of Star Wars anymore. Only the brand being so devalued to the point where Disney is willing to sell it to another buyer who will take the reasons for its decline seriously will secure a future for new SW media. I am not wishing for any miracles considering both how their other acquisitions are being managed and how they've been signaling in the current political climate.
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No.18822
>>18789
>crash this plane with no survivors so SW can never be horribly raped and mutilated like this again?
yes.
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No.18825
>>18817
This. There's no way to save this puppy unless Disney sells it and puts it up for adoption. We need a reset to how things were before the buyout or complete destruction.
>>18822
Time to escalate our meme efforts to all out war mode.
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No.18826
>>18817
…and now they have Fox.
I still think that Iger will move Kennedy to handle Fox and she will ruin every major Fox franchise
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No.18827
>>18826
>…and now they have Fox.
Shit fuck, we got to act fast.
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No.18829
>>18825
the path to victory is ensuring that every Disney Wars product (movies, toys, games, etc) fails miserably. it needs to get to the point where Disney Wars is box office poison and even conceding to fans won't help. we're past the point of no return. it needs to plummet until they sell the IP at a massive loss.
>>18827
the key is Episode IX. we need to get litty, make Jumanji 3 a blockbuster, and destroy IX. as I've said in other threads, they can spin the under-performance of TLJ and the Solo flop all they want, but there's no way they can justify a mainline numbered episode losing money. we need IX to end up well under $1 billion, preferably under $500 million, the lower the better.
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No.18831
>>18829
Quite honestly all you can do is just not give the bastards any more money. What the normalfag horde will do is pretty much unknown. Given that they appear willing to vote in democrats who are advocating outright civil war I wouldn’t say they won’t shuffle off like lemmings to watch it.
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No.18837
>>18825
Just bear in mind accelerationism has never worked as a strategy in history.
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No.18840
>>18831
based reviewers on youtube have already helped sway the normies against TLJ and Disney Wars as a whole. the shilling, false-flagging, insults, and fake reviews also contribute, and people should be informed of these tactics as much as possible. we can also convince people whenever possible to ditch Disney Wars and disregard it as canon.
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No.18849
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>>18840
Especially this guy and E;R. The Geeks & Gamers faggots and ComicArtistsPro are also good at getting the normalfags riled up against Disney.
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No.18854
>>18849
>>18840
As faggy as it sounds, this "youtube's Rebel Alliance/Avengers" is of great benefit to us in both short and long terms. It gained new strength with Solo, and I predict JJ Abrams' trainwreck can only make it stronger.
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No.18857
>>18825
>This. There's no way to save this puppy unless Disney sells it and puts it up for adoption. We need a reset to how things were before the buyout or complete destruction.
the only other possible option is that somehow one of us takes over lucasfilm, and we get a second canon wipe.
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No.18865
>>18857
As nice as that would be, having someone who is /ourguy/ be in charge of Lucasfilm is the least likely scenario.
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No.18884
>>18854
it does sound faggy, but it has wide reach. we need to convince normies that it's cool to hate Disney Wars, that their friends will think they're smart and they'll have more "nerd cred" for boycotting it, etc. already alot of progress has been made.
hopefully, IX will be the decisive blow. but either way, we need to keep the momentum going.
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No.18906
>>18837
I'll accept Star Wars just coming to an end. It's better than the Mexican Sugar Dance going on with its half-living corpse right now.
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No.18909
>>18906
Nothing will stop that. Somebody will always make Star Wars no matter what, like Terminator or Aliens or Predator or Transformers.
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No.18919
>>18909
The best we can hope for is that at least the films go into a long hibernation.
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No.18921
I hope Rian Johnson gets full control
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No.18925
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No.18932
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