/sw/ - Star Wars

>>15207

I agree. Every other template seems to be transferring alright, so let me run a few tests on my talk page. I've been trying to fix this problem, too.

>>15207

I think you fixed it, Anon. Now just to get the image working.

>>15209

I thought I fixed it, but no. Apparently the {{{images|}}} infocell is the cause of the problem. Removing it removes the error but altering it breaks the whole template.

>>15210

Weird. Let me grab the template straight from the other wiki and see if it works now.

>>15210

I have to admit, anon, this is literal hell. Everything I've tried is a big fat goose egg. I gotta go for a tad, but I'm thinking about checking the character template to see if that could be possibly reorganized to work with Galaxy templating.

>>15212

Now you see my problem. This irksome shit became infuriating for me at one point that I couldn't bring myself to edit for a while. All I can say for certain is that the images are too blame. I just wish I knew how to fix the damn thing.

>>15213

Okay I give up on trying to make this template work like it did on the old wiki. So instead I just went with the only image code for templates I know, and thankfully that seems to have done the trick and it also got rid of the error. Problem is we'll have to manually put image widths into the infobox. So if anyone is reading this, remember: When adding images to infoboxes keep them at around 250px or less.

>>15214

Alright. Thanks, dude. I'll try to transfer more templates and pages when I can. I might just finish Palpatine and it's images when I get the chance.

>>15216

Great job! If the admin becomes active again I think you should definitely be a mod. And now that there are at least two people working on this, the workload should appear more appealing to others.

Once we get the wiki to a completed state, we should make either a sister-wiki of implement a system similar to the wikia for our community to separate EU stuff from the community continuity.

I say then we focus on getting writers together and spreading to further reaches of the Star Wars community.

>>15173

>We'll still need a name for our version of the continuity

AD Canon = After Disney Canon

The name alone makes it fact that Disney's has ended and we want out.

>>15224

So, I've been mulling over this and while I think it's effective, I doubt it's the right approach. Like others have said before, this can't just be a /sw/ project if it's going to go anywhere. There are a lot of people out there actively despising the Mouse canon, but it seems most of them are already passionate EU fans. I personally believe that if you just focus on love for the original canon, you'll get these people and people who are just as enthusiastic about the EU, just not particularly hateful of Disney.

All that said, I absolutely think we should take a vote before deciding on a name when we have more ideas.

>>15234

>oy vey control your optics

>let's vote democratically

>>15236

I'm sorry if I came off as a shill. I wasn't saying AD wouldn't work or shouldn't be chosen. I was just stating my personal concerns with it. If it's what everyone here wants, then my opinion doesn't really mean shit, anon. That's why I said we should vote.

I'm sorry if you mistook my intent. I'll just focus on the wiki for now once I get back to my computer.

>>15234

>Like others have said before, this can't just be a /sw/ project if it's going to go anywhere.

Someone already linked to a forum in the Battlefront thread that actively supports the EU. Try and recruit from there but avoid mentioning 8chan, unless you have to. As for names, AD seems the most fitting, or EUAD. But there's no rush honestly, we still have to get the first wiki into decent shape before we begin the project, unless there's enough people on here to work on both projects. I am concerned though that if the EUAD is managed by fans for fans and the fact that it'll have easy access to the public, then we risk inviting writers more interested in a message (Kate Leths and Kennedy types) rather than love for the story and universe. But again, maybe I'm over thinking things and it probably will never get that bad. The only real message that matters is that stories should inspire ideas and creativity along with interest in lore, not political propaganda a la Disney and Marvel.

>>15244

100% this.

That concern of political pandering was what made me think having a central group that did quality control on the stories of the AD canon so that stories wouldn't seep through that were just pander fests. Plus, there is always the chance that totally community controlled could lead to it being derailed by people like that to begin with. It's a tough situation. I don't like having a closed circle in charge, but it is arguably more awful to allow SJW influence to derail it.

As for not mentioning 8chan, that's likely for the best. During this phase we need to grow and not let too much crap divide us.

Holonet and some early writefagging is gonna be the most effective, though planning for the future is still important.

>>15244

>>15259

Agree with both. It would be nice to be open with ideas but we can't risk some assholes hijacking the story-driven charity for personal gain. I'll just keep doing my wiki shit, you fucks focus on anything else. I've been working on articles and image downloads since this morning so I think we'll soon have the wiki in a decent 100 article state. But first we need to fix some of the articles already in place, like Palpatine which has too many Legends links.

As for the EUAD or whateverthefuckwecallit, all I wanna do for it something in a similar vain to the Essential Guides or a bestiary of sorts on the many under explored fauna and flora of the galaxy for others to use in their stories if need be. I've also always wanted to do a kind of entry on possibly white-furred wookiee tribes that may live in the far north/colder regions of Kashyyyk, who are more primitive and savage. Does that sound interesting?

>>15267

That sounds like an amazing idea. I think while the wiki is being built, writefags should be working on guides for EUDAYMCA so that we can get some consistency. I've considered throwing out some ideas for some Post-Legacy content later on. 200 ABY or something, but it's best to get the busywork finished first.

Bad news nobody. I found a way to transfer all of the EU content on Wookieepedia over to HoloNet in one go. Problem is the Special:Import option is only accessible to the "Staff" ie the owners of Shoutwiki. Whoever's the main head honcho of HoloNet needs to send them a message to give us the right upload said content on to the wiki.

>>15324

Fuck yeah. Good job, dude. After this, I suppose we'll have to check over some of the info and go over information that was missing so we can work on summarizing and adding it.

Once it hits, we can start on the beginning pieces of our new canon.

Should one of us try to set-up a site to host the stories and mission statement of our project? I can do it soon, but if we have other options, then we should at least consider them.

Gonna post this idea here because writefaggotry is gonna be important once Staff gets online and the mass import happens. Tell me what I should plan differently or if the idea should be scrapped entirely.

>Around 200 ABY

>Galactic Federation Triumverant still has rule over the Galaxy, though some conflicts have challenged them over the years.

>The Empire is the most stable, Empress Marasiah Fel still alive and ruling. The Imperial Knights are well organized and respected, acting as an extension of the Force and their Empress. Unfortunately, the Empire's military and political influence is spread thin to compensate for the lack of military power in the Jedi Order and the Galactic Alliance.

>The Galactic Alliance, though unstable, has been reorganizes its government and assisting in development across the galaxy. Unfortunately, the early decision to keep the Alliance and Empire separate entities in the GFT has allowed political games to halt progress and has left their navy smaller and less influential than recent years have necessitated. Thankfully, Alliance systems have brought new advancements to technology, military and otherwise.

>The Jedi Order has recently undergone a schism due to the conflicts the galaxy has been facing. Knowing a disbanding of the Order would prove disastrous, they've split into three branches with their own Grand Master. Each branch has a different opinion of how the Jedi should move forward, though they all believe that a divided Order could lead to terrible consequences. One branch believes in the more individual-focused teachings of Luke Skywalker's age, another bases its ideals on the Old Jedi Order and their strict devotion to the Jedi Code, whilst the third desires a more militarized Order reminiscent of the Clone Wars era to prevent further conflicts that have been straining the GFT.

>The story would likely follow a survivor of a world that was attacked in the last decade who has started discover his force sensitivity and his trader friend as they travel towards Coruscant and the Jedi Order. During their travel, the Empress would be killed mysteriously and cause major unrest in the galaxy.

If this all sounds dumb, just say so, anons.

>>15736

Tell us who the enemy is, you faggamuffin.

>>15745

The way I have it thought out:

>The GA begins secretly constructing a superweapon in defense of any future attacks. This is found out by a high ranking Inperial Knight.

>The Imperial Knight begins to be pulled to the dark as he becomes more disillusioned with his faith in The Force and the state of the galaxy. He begins to revere the early days of the GFT, convincing himself that the efficiency and order came from the immediate escape of the chaos that Darth Krayt and Wredd had caused. The relative disarray of the GA and Jedi only pushes this belief further. Seeing as the Empire was keeping the peace more than the other factions, he decides that's where he'll need to take action.

>Taking advantage of the suspicious nature of the GA's new superweapon project, he betrays his loyalty and assassinates the Empress, careful to make it appear like a GA or Jedi crime. The Empress' vengeful heirs begin to mobilize and demand complete transparency from its allies.

>The GA and Jedi attempt to comply, but their already unstable organizations just lead to further blame from the Empire.

>The new Empress, under suggestions from the Imperial Knight who started this conflict, demands that the Jedi are removed from the GFT. Fearing complete takeover from the Imperials in that scenario, the Alliance allies with the Jedi Order and prepares for war.

>The Imperial Knight begins to fall more to the dark, secretly gathering more dissident groups to prepare for a campaign against the warring GFT when the time is right.

>After many battles, several large scale ones, the GFT learns how it was deceived by the Knight.

>The Knight has begun openly commanding the opposition, foreseeing his discovery.

>The opposition takes control of the half-finished superweapon, devastating an Imperial controlled core world.

>The Jedi Order reunites for the remainder of the war, working the Empire and GA to push back campaign against them, overwhelming the dissenting forces, destroying the superweapon and confronting the Imperial Knight as he sees his dream of a more united, stronger galaxy fulfilled through his death.

>>4291

>The besieged Yevetha continued to refuse outside help, and were eventually rendered nearly extinct.[2] While many believed the species had been destroyed, it was speculated by some that their expansionist tendencies might have resulted in some colonies that escaped the notice of the Yuuzhan Vong.[1] In fact, after the fall of N'zoth, it was estimated that fewer than ten thousand Yevetha were still alive in the galaxy.[14]

Nah, there's some around somewhere. I have every bit of faith they'd try to renew their empire. Maybe come back to reclaim their homeworld or reform some aspect of themselves so they wouldn't end up on the losing side of another invasion. Or maybe there could be a story following a team or set of teams trying to locate an isolated location that best mimicked their homeworld. Or tried to unite the last few settlements into something formidably defensive.

>>15931

I like these ideas a lot. I'd love to read a story of the Yevetha sending small groups of their survivors to some Outer Rim, possibly even Unknown Regions, worlds, their xenophobia likely increasing massively after the devastation that the Vong wrought. I'd really like to see what some of our writefags here could cook up.

>>15946

I'd want it entirely from their point of view, too. I want to see them struggling with their culture, the fear of being found, the issue of subjugating a planet while faced with dwindling resources without getting sideswiped by any potential interlopers. Perhaps there's a brush with a scouting ship and the main character has to deal with the risks of bringing in the unwanted attention of a larger, stronger threat of whoever sent it. Show how they'd handle any captives to see what they can gain or be genuinely worried as to whether what little they have can stand up to whatever sent the scout ship. The higher number of lower castes vs. the bare minimum higher castes, society trying to reorient itself and all that amongst this threat, real or imagined.

>>15969

Though I don't think I could write either, having one anon write this side story and another writing a larger story encompassing more of the galaxy could work. They could work together so they're consistent with one another.

>>15736

>>15760

Bumping to see people's opinions on this proposed story.

>>16616

I honestly like it. If the wiki shit works out, the other wiki should cover it.

>>16621

Thank you. I can get to working on it soon, but I do want to see if people have suggestions for technology to be featured, things that could help it be more cohesive, or just plot points people think should be changed.

I'll have to come up with an interesting superweapon, regardless.

Also, I can assist in the wiki page. I have no issue, there.

I also want to propose something, I've thought about that for a while now. As far as I know, there's a 3000-year timespan between TOR and Darth Bane, where nothing is happening. I'm interested in fleshing that era out a bit, though I don't really have any concrete ideas on what would be going on in the galaxy at that time or how to seamlessly connect it with the EU.

Anyone interested in such an endeavour?

>>16904

3000 years a fuck long period for almost an infinite number of stories to take place in.

>>16905

My point exactly. I'd like to single out a timespan of about 10 years, and flesh it out a bit to use as a potential basis for stories.

>>16906

The guy doing the 200 ABY story here.

I'd be willing to reference a plot point or something you set up in a notable way. I've also been thinking about a few things you could explore that might fit into that gap.

>A group of explorers colonizing the outer rim or interacting with cultures. Perhaps headed by a few Jedi, maybe even a spiritual precursor to the Outbound Flight, keeping within the galaxy.

>Technological breakthroughs divide some of the galaxy, maybe heading a small revolt that some Sith capitalize on.

>Focus on an individual species attempting to connect with more of the galaxy, joining the Old Republic.

That's all I got right now.

>>16919

Some good ideas there. I'll think about it, maybe we can get a few guys from /tg/ on board to help with the setting.

Also, what do you think about creating a new board to keep track of individual projects and keeping this thread for meta discussion?

>>16946

Maybe. Splitting a small project up at the beginning is usually a bad choice and cripples it in the start from what I've seen, but if people here are dedicated enough to stay informed on two boards, I guess it's good dor organization.

>>16919

It's been about six months, but I'm back. I wrote a rough outline of the more complete story a while back and I'm gonna attempt to write and finish the 200 ABY idea. I'll probably toss a few chapters out and see what needs fixing now and again. Feels good to be back, /sw/

>>23938

Welcome back storyfag. Seems a lot of anons were on a six month-long break. This place has been jumping in activity this month compared to how dead it was.

>>23939

Thanks, Anon. I wonder why now all of a sudden. At the very least, we'll have more people discussing the EU, maybe even more if Disney does as expected and continues this line of failures.

Any suggestions for where to upload chapters as they're completed? I'd put them here, but the posts would be incredibly excessive due to the character limit.

>>23941

>where to upload

What happened to that wiki project some anons were working on?

>>23947

It's still up, but that's for EU info, not fanon. It would likely be better to find a hosting site or make them PDFs.

>>23942

This thread is discussing the concept and approach that should be taken to continue, refine, and add to the EU in a notable, organized fashion. Not sure how we would determine what is considered canon, but I'm sure we could devise a way. There were a few ideas thrown about, but nothing concrete as of yet. If you have any ideas for stories, feel free to share.

>>23941

>Any suggestions for where to upload chapters as they're completed?

i guess generally any fanfic site would do, so long as it allows for scifi content. might also consider linking on some of the normalfag websites to garner attention, just to make the lucasfilm and disney faggots ree for lulz.

>>23966

I like the old fashioned, "If it's good and it doesn't interfere with other good stories, it's canon. And if it's shit, or if it interferes with better stories (even if on its own it's okay) then it isn't canon. With the six Lucas films trumping everything since they are the core of the universe.

Out curiosity, what's your guys' stance on my TOR Separatist Canon thread? I've been trying to make it fit with Legends as much as possible as I'm currently only in the KOTOR-era, (not sure if I'll ever leave it to be honest) and I'm trying less to make my own canon and more to flesh out the bare-bones lore that is the Mando Wars leading into KOTOR proper.

>>23992

A good policy to have. I think having most of the works be digital will also work to assist good stories not getting thrown out over minor continuity errors. Edits can be made as needed, as long as they're not plot dependent on said errors. Overall, just having an active group of dedicated people discussing the lore assists in providing better quality and consistency of writing.

>>23994

I read through a bit of it. I think it's good idea to focus more on refining the established lore before moving onto creating more to fit into the universe. The ideas being discussed there to fill in some of the gaps seem solid. I need to reacquaint myself with the TOR lore again before I can start discussing it at length. My reason for attempting to expand the lore forward is to both give myself a reasonable era where I can tell a good story and give a lot of free space to other writers to tell better stories and explore subjects they can do justice to. Expanding forward also doesn't interfere with the EU as it was left, so it could be easily discarded or ignored by those who don't feel too much should be added. I am personally opposed to too much tampering with established lore, however, so the ideas in the TOR thread do catch my interest. It seems everything proposed there goes to the service the lore, rather than change or add pointlessly.

I'm planning on making a thread independent of this one for the 200 ABY stuff, so I can go into detail over all of the worldbuilding details and so that anons can call me out if I fuck something up. I'll likely sage most of the posts, so it doesn't shit up the front page needlessly.

As for this thread, I think for the time being, planning more additions to the lore or just trying to refine canon is a good place to continue. I'll try to stay involved and informed for discussion.

>>2829

>hating on Skippy

Fuck you!

>>24081

it's cute but it's for kids