937c85 No.32095 [View All]
Aaaaaaaaaaah Mr Morden! Tell me, why do your employers refuse a Babylon 5 thread?
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341b30 No.32421
>>32239
That scene was so good. Londo and G'kar were the best part of Babylon 5. I think a big part of why Season 4 wasn't as good as 2 and 3 was because Londo and G'kar hardly ever showed up at all.
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3dab37 No.32429
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ba6fbf No.32431
>>32189
>Now don't you have some catastrophic food shortages to take care of or some basic sanitation catastrophes to clean up on your homeworld?
That burn was harsher than mass driver bombardment.
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10176a No.32455
I'm watching Season 3 for the first time now and damn does this show get good. I wouldn't have thought it from S1.
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bc368b No.32457
>>32455
You can typically skip season 1 and not miss a thing.
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1323a3 No.32469
>>32457
Never got people who say this. Season 1 is my favourite season. Some moments are better in 2-3 but they're not as overall good, and after Zhadum it goes to shit anyway.
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7fb61b No.32473
>>32469
This, it was better with Sinclair and before they rushed the War in Heaven plot
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ace533 No.32477
>>32473
I'm glad someone agrees with me, normally people think season 1 is slow but it was comfy Trek-style content.
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219891 No.32493
>>32477
I think Season 1 gets much better in retrospect, because the foreshadowing becomes much more apparent. It's more of a stepping stone to later seasons than it's own show.
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db8712 No.32503
>>32493
I'm watching B5 for the first time and based on the horror stories I read online I was expecting S1 to be a lot worse than it was. The only thing I can say that really stuck in my craw was the occasional sitcom-esque coda at the end of some episodes, but even that was charming in its own weird way.
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c6f72c No.32507
>>32503
The worst part is how many times you have to watch balding old men perform athletics or physical combat. The casting was a bit off with that in mind.
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c21382 No.32512
>>32507
The younger men tend to play older men in the show with older playing younger
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4a4145 No.32526
>>32189
Fugg that's a rekt
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9e788e No.32530
>>32189
i can hear the text in his voice when i read it, well done anon.
polite sage
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9e788e No.32531
B5 was what DS9 should have been. DS9 eventually got 'good' but after the first season where they set up the storylines B5 really takes off and is just so fucking rewarding to watch if you have the required autism. Dukat and indeed Cardassians were so disappointingly under-developed and underutilized, instead we get to know fucking KIKE-O Obrien real well. Dukat was turned into a one-dimensional bad guy while he could have and should have been much more central to everything going on.
B5 was different. Yes full of cheesy bullshit storylines and some awful characters and actors. Some terrible early CG, atrocious set design and lighting for the most part but the show had heart, told a good story competently, had well written dialog and well developed characters and relationships and had some extremely based social commentary. Londo and G'Kar especially were on another level. I always enjoyed Patrick Stewart and his erudite soliloquies but Andreas Katsulas makes Patrick Stewart look like a little bitch every time he's onscreen - Criminally underutilized actor, probably because he looked kind of weird IRL.
Anyone noticed the really astonishing body count within B5s main cast?
Sinclair - dead irl
g'kar - dead irl
niggerdoc - dead irl
garibaldi - dead irl
zack - dead irl
and probably a few more. a little odd
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e01c94 No.32532
>>32531
From the main cast, Vir Cotto is dead irl too. Very strange.
Aside from that, I'm consistently entertained by the sheer volume of notable guest stars on the show. I end up having to pause every episode for a couple minutes of wiki hunting because every time someone new shows up it's like "FUCK, where do I recognize this guy from?" It's like they got every character actor and bit player in the business to show up in this thing.
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1c0f6e No.32689
>>32531
I have to admit that B5 has been more or less good from the get go (although the more I watch it the less I think that DS9 Plagirized). Who would have thought that dramatic sci-fi stories set in with relatable characters (and archtypical relations) just is easy to watch and fun.
I also am really kinda amazed just seeing the ktichenette and bedroom in a sci-fi show. So many shows just gloss over that kind of cultural aspect (The province of russia, the londo and G'kar quarters and cooking a pigs head , etc). It helps that the show has a silly amount of acting talent in its half a dozen main characters.
And the CGI is growing on me. It 's pretty obviously a limitation but Im just treating it more as a style.
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3edf2a No.32691
>Mollari does some dome shit again
FUCK
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3edf2a No.32692
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c55bed No.32704
>>32689
So far the only thing on the show that stands out as a flaw to me is that you never get a true sense of the scale of the station. Maybe this gets better later on (I'm only in season 2) but the majority of the action has been limited to just a few locations. I'd like to see more variety in a place with a population comparable to a small city. Especially with the interior surface of the cylinder being essentially "outdoors." They could have worked in some more location shooting. But budgets, I guess…
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a202ee No.32718
there's afew things that annoy me with the show.
>Gene Roddenberry's bullshittery
>for it's time it's standards were outdated even then
>conflict is bad because conflict is bad
>when the big ebil leave and the show is basically over there's a season of bullshittery to leave you off by
>no black market insectoid mang shenanigans
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becf4e No.32728
>>32689
As long as we're on the subject, what's the verdict discussing on the other sci-fi shows from the TNG/VOY/DS9 era on /strek/? Lexx, Farscape, Babylon 5, Red Dwarf, Stargate, Battlestar Galactica, and probably a bunch of others that I'm forgetting.
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7fb61b No.32748
>>32728
>Lexx, Farscape, Babylon 5, Red Dwarf, Stargate, Battlestar Galactica, and probably a bunch of others that I'm forgetting.
wank, wank, goodguy, goodguy, goodguy, goodguy/wank/goodguy, Galaxy Quest is good and should be honorary Star Trek like Orville is.
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e8c4c4 No.32935
>>32728
> Lexx
???
>Farscape
tolerable, then becomes good. that jewess was fucking hot. rigel is best character. main villain was an incredible actor.
>Babylon 5
best scifi show ever made even if the universe itself is a little bland.
>Red Dwarf
british. ew.
>Stargate
Movie is top tier. Beginning especially feels like the best Trek has to offer.
sg1 tv show- forgettable, doesnt follow its own in-universe rules, richard dean anderson is a dumb fucking clown ruining every scene he's in by trying to do comedy aloofness
>Battlestar Galactica
battlestar garbageica. starts interesting enough. then terminal redditosis kicks in. Annoying stonk females and beta faggots abound. Intrigue is shit tier especially compared to b5
Another great show that is (arguably) sci-fi is la femme nikita. It feels in-universe for deus ex. really underrated, but top tier despite its many flaws.
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1c0f6e No.32945
>>32704
theres a shot in the openign sequence that has a welder on one of the solar panels and you could use for measurement if you were autistic. But there are definitely a few shots where people don't quite understand where the elevator goes on a spinning cylindrical thing.
>>32728
Lexx, hilariously bad
Farscape good
Babylon 5 good (sfx terrible but plots and acting very solid)
Red Dwarf, fukken legend status
Stargate 1 + Atlantis V.Good
Battlestar Galactic I never cared for it but okay?
GalaxyQuest is also amazing
BY GRAPTHAR"S HAMMER
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becf4e No.32956
>>32945
>Lexx, hilariously bad
At least I'm not alone on this one. I've seen people fellating the show and talking about how it's this amazing, weird, brilliant show when the entire thing is just this weird wart-covered dick in terms of characters, plots, and writing. It has its moments, but it's painful suffering through each episode, nearly all of which could be trimmed down to half their length without losing any substance.
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59cb64 No.32957
>>32728
>Lexx
Haven't seen
>Farscape
Fun but variable, you gotta take the insanity along with the better episodes.
>Babylon 5
Ok but overrated if you don't like shows that focus on characters and overly dramatic plots over speculative fiction. CGI notoriously bad but not just low quality: with a budget that limited they should have picked a different style for them or something to make it less obvious.
>Red Dwarf
Quality depends on which series you're watching but it's all at least good. S1, S7 and S8 are the weaker ones.
>Stargate
SG-1 is great for 6 seasons, fine after that. Atlantis is watchable. Universe was shit.
>Battlestar Galactica
Soap opera in space. Fucking avoid. Original was better.
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7fb61b No.32959
>>32956
This, I tried watching it and I can't see what others do in it. Boring plot, annoying characters, even the fap fodder was inadequate, even before I had internets. Takes all kinds I guess, whatever.
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86e880 No.32962
Haven't been to this board in months, but I'm glad to see that it's opening up into a general sci-fi board. It was getting to the point where we had nearly exhausted all discussion on the 5 main shows, and were left with nothing to talk about except STD and Orville, neither of which interested me. I love Babylon 5, it's my favorite show with DS9 being a close second. I started watching it not long after I finished Enterprise for the first time. Even with it's lower budget, the stories and actors made it spectacular. In fact, there wasn't a single character in the main cast that I didn't like, which I have never been able to say about any other sci-fi show, save for TOS.
>>32935
>Farscape
I finished that one just recently, and I have to say it really has a Star Wars feel to me. The way it focuses primarily on the action, with just enough lore to keep the plot moving along. Most things were more or less treated as "space magic" like the Scarans heatwave thing, or Sikozu's gravity-walk. It wasn't bad though, and as you say, it does become good if you stick with it. I liked it overall, however I don't think I'll be giving it a second watch any time soon.
>main villain was an incredible actor.
Scorpius was the single greatest thing about that show, hands down. Him and Captain Crais were my two favorite characters, and the performance by those two actors were often the reason I kept watching at times when I began to feel bored with the show.
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7fb61b No.32968
>>32962
I could never take him seriously in that gimp suit
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162bb0 No.32972
>>32935
>main villain was an incredible actor
I'm confused. Who was really the villain of the show? Cause arguably everyone didn't do anything wrong.
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0584de No.32979
>>32968
The suit was the best part.
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86e880 No.33028
>>32968
>>32979
That suit was very off-putting at first, but Pygram did such a great job in the role that it became a non-issue fairly quickly.
>>32972
Technically, I guess one could say it was Scorpius overall, but one of the strongest aspects of Farscape was how it treated the majority of antagonists as gray-areas. No one was fully evil, just some characters were more self-involved or agenda-driven than others.
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415837 No.33031
>>32095
i thought babylon 5 was really boring the few times I watched it.
also some of the characters said some REALLY dumb and droning stuff. My take on it.
I thought the plots were ok but they moved in slow motion and I had to hear long and dumb speeches.
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7fb61b No.33034
>>33031
>plots in slow motion
I had the opposite problem with it, it feels like they had too many episodes with series arcs instead of those mixed with one-offs and sidestories.
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2a963c No.33038
>>32935
>Farscape
> that jewess was fucking hot
Almost turned me into a bagel chaser until I saw pic related. It's like their goy holomatrix degrades as they age and they assume their true form.
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e77011 No.33054
>>33031
>also some of the characters said some REALLY dumb and droning stuff. My take on it.
A common mistake in serialised shows is an over-reliance on character monologues to grant lazy depth or 'character development'. Telling instead of showing. Serialisation has only been bad for American tv because it's entirely incompatible with needing 22+ episode long seasons. All you get is filler or really inconsistent pacing.
>>33034
Welcome to the 'golden age' of serialised tv. True cancer.
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e6ab32 No.33073
>>32728
T&A master race reporting in
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e6ab32 No.33074
>>33073
Who can ever compete?
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cbb362 No.33109
>>33074
Damn son, that looks even better than Xena.
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b33af7 No.33114
>>33073
>>33074
Whats wrong with their noses?
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e6ab32 No.33155
>>33114
On the DVD box art, it looks like they decided to emboss their faces, and probably some shitty photoshop too.
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ba34ea No.33169
I wouldn't mind seeing a Babylon 5 with modern cgi, the original was really good, watched it in the 90s but Battlestar Galactica got a m0dern version and i think Babylon 5 needs one too.
I like the last scenes, Minbari (rangers, white star) fleet the most powerful fleet in existence since the first one left the galaxy …
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ff2777 No.33217
>>33074
The chick on the right is super hot, but that black chick is fucking horrendous. Zero fucking hips. She might actually be a tranny.
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91b98a No.33225
>My shoes are too tight, but it doesn't matter because I have forgotten how to dance
What did he mean by this?
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a960fb No.33226
>>33225
>What did he mean by this?
Londo is a prisoner of is own life. He is a patriot and has done everything right in life from a Centauri point of view, yet he can never be himself.
And even if he had the freedom to be himself, he wouldn't know what to do because he has shouldered his duties and responsibilities for too long without real rest.
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a10001 No.33246
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Nobody came to Humanity's aid.
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27abb1 No.33501
>>32095
Because only the first two seasons of B5 were good, and then turned to shit when the new captain became some weird/lazy space-jesus.
>NOW GET THE HELL OUT OF OUR GALAXY!
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280130 No.33502
>>33109
strong busty amazonian waifu > meh-tier wannabe scifi spice girls
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fe8b21 No.33503
>>32935
> Lexx
It's stupid, but fun to watch just because of how fucking weird it can be.
>Farscape
See above more or less
Rigel was based and redpilled.
>Babylon 5
Decent.
>Red Dwarf
Hey at least it's not Doctor Who
>Stargate
Good movie, good early seasons–rare good sci-fi and Showtime titties. SGA was shit though.
>Battlestar Galactica
Premium acting and good special effects that hold up well, this came as a surprise if you watched reruns of the original BSG series on the SyFy channel as I did.
>Earth 2
One of the worst shows ever made.
>Space: Above and Beyond
Watchable, enjoy the plot and focus on the characters not the aging effects and you'll have a good time.
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