/strek/ - Star Trek

>>30348

Is that a space whale?

>>30249

>(1)

>>30326

Kevin Spacey will be the final boss of S31.

>>30348

Ensign Wildman was less fat than Tilly, and she still got fired for being a lardass.

>>30348

Some people were saying she was pregnant during filming this season, but I don't know if thats confirmed or not.

>>30347

I'm sure their next big twist will be that bald section 31 asshole that the evil AI stabbed in the eye will turn into the first borg or something. Because you know they're going to add the borg in somehow.

>>30375

I heard of a few people talking like this but I don't see it (not to mention that there are lots of technological/biological combinations that are not borg). The timelines dont work (and fuck you timetravel), the borg work best as a non-human race (and yes the ones we see tend to be human but thats mostly because they just nomm'd human ships) and its audience probably doens't have half a fucking idea what a borg is. It's like they just made a checklist for star trek stuff and are furiously checking things off hoping to win back the fanbase (despite its one or three very clear things turning off the fanbase the foremost being michael).

Am I a brainlet or shouldn't you be able to tell if a DNA fragment is that of Michael or her mother's? Or are they just going "well, we just had the half her mother gave her", which is super convenient?

>I felt more for random redshirts that got killed in the other series than I did for Cyborg woman. Also love how we got all her """"backstory""" last episode and that should make us sad.

>I don't really get all this cockblocking Ash is getting for his involvement with S31. He joined them like a month or whatever ago and it's obvious he's very torn about what he's doing and obviously is thinking of the reason why he's even involved with them (his kid). No one seems to think about that shit.

>how the fuck do they just know where all S31 ships are? AND get info back from them that their ships are ok? Why do I even ask anymore?

>Where is the ship's CMO? There is one, we've seen her like twice, but why isn't she involved with ANYTHING that happens this episode? Gay guy was NEVER the CMO, he was just some doctor they never made the CMO for whatever reason.

>S31 created the red angel to fight against the Klingons who were researching time travel. Okay. Sure, whatever.

>There is such a disgusting amount of lensflare every time we get a closeup, even in scenes where I wouldn't think there would be light that would make that effect happen.

>I don't get Tilly. Back in TNG it was a big deal that you had a character like Barclay who was a shy introvert who often couldn't get the right words out. He was very relatable to a lot of fans and it was always great seeing people learning he was different and Barclay himself growing more confident in his work and actions. Why is everyone taking Tilly's autism as cute and acceptable? Every time she speaks, she stutters and goes on tangents or she interrupts others, barely getting any awknowledgement that she should better herself. Georgiou telling her to shut the fuck up was the correct (if crude) reaction everyone should have whenever she opens her stupid mouth.

>everyone here has already said it, but the "UMM LADY HE IS ACTUALLY GAY" scene was painfully embarrassing.

>I'm glad you have whatsherface Head of Security come up for one scene only just to fuck off again. Great character.

>I'm also glad they decided to make Michael's parents S31. Makes her feel like an even bigger snowflake and the type of character you'd see in shitty Mary Sue fics. But she totally isn't one, ofc.

>Also, I get that Michael is angry at meeting the guy who admitted that he's the reason her parents got killed, but considering he was sorry about it and it truly did seem like a rookie error (a big one, but if Shran or Archer weren't blamed for Trip's death (not canon, I know), then this guy shouldn't be either), Michael's reaction seemed a tad too violent.

>a small thing, but how did everyone now know that S31 was the reason for Michael's parents' deaths. Did Michael go screaming down the decks? Did Ash tell the non-existant friends he has onboard? Did Georgiou see S31 guy's bloodied face and figured she can now blab because it wasn't blakcmail anymore?

>I know this is just TV drama, but I love how everyone just expected to drop Michael in that char for like a minute and have the Red Angle show up, instead of her dying for a sec and THEN for the big appearance.

>I guess the AI is on the S31 ship then?

I honestly didn't bother looking over to see what was in store for the next episode besides us getting a lot of mommy issues shit.

>>30391

>Where is the ship's CMO?

Better questions: Where is the chief engineer? Where is the ship's engine room?

The section that houses Stamets' laboratory only contains the magic mushroom drive, not the conventional warp systems. The ship has never once suffered a conventional warp outage or systems malfunction of the kind that happened literally every other episode in real Trek.

Discovery must have the most crack engineering team in the fleet if nobody ever has to call down to the engine room to boost, restore, or transfer power, or get an update on when critical repairs will be finished. They're just that good.

>>30375

>>30380

I was so sure Nu Trek 3 was going to be about the borg

>>29040

thanks for recap I will def watch now

S02E10 - wew lad, there were a couple of half decent episodes early in the season but the last three have doubled down on the retard, were they literally just throwing ideas into a bingo tumbler and drawing them in the writers' room?

>>30403

I think its more that a talented director can make most shit palatable in the short term. Frakes basically pulled off the only two episodes I consider 'goodish'. I think they more or less are in full panic mode with ansom and cheeseburger lady leaving and pretty clearly taking the last of the paying audience with them. Everyone and their mother is too busy sending out resumes or however writers do their shit instead of quality control (which is where lines like Defcon level fun) come from.

>>30413

>ansom and cheeseburger lady leaving

I don't keep up with the news, but I always figured Anson was a 1 season insert anyways, and that it would end with him becoming invalidated as we later see him in the TOS Menagerie

>>30424

There was an unknown female credited to being the episode's director in the credits, I immediately knew it was going to be a shit show. All the heart tugging scenes, ash/michael, pansexual wtf scene, michael's teary, emotional outbursts; and complete disregard for plot logic seemingly validated my stereotypes - women once again prove that if you want something done right, you get a man to do it.

>>30429

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0191697/'

Negress, also involved with "Untitled Star Trek Series (TV Series) (2 episodes) (pre-production)" which is probably Picard, so this thing is immediately dead in the water. Patrick Stewart will wish he had just taken The Orville cameo instead.

>>30424

It's Michael burnham. she probably just assumes she can out think and beat anyone, even future versions of Michael Burnham.

>>30431

Aw, we haven't even gotten to the part where the romulain monk kid they were casting will probably turn out to be Spock's lovechild so they can tie all the shit together.

>>30419

Ahh there's two versions of it but it sounds like he threw fists at the director (or the director got in his own shot so bad that he got within clapping range).

>>30424

Also this

Can't wait for them to tell you that you can't touch your future doppelganger without being displaced to the past and they rip off that one good episode of nuhu.

I came here to say that STD was written by imbeciles and produced by advertising people. For real. It was written by simpletons, political agendas aside. I've just watched two thirds of S02E01, but I'm already in despair.

Why can't they just leave science fiction franchises alone? Why do they have to destroy everything? Fuck.

>>30490

> Why do they have to destroy everything? Fuck.

For the same reason Marx said socilism would only "work" if every nation on earth did it at the same time. If you have a place to escape their bullshit from, then their bullshit cant work. Everything has to be shit, or else people will just avoid the stuff that's shit and go watch the stuff that is still entertaining.

> Finally - I have become - Star Trek: Terminator

> On tonight's episode, black mary sue channels her inner Sarah Connor to stop the AI Control - Skynet - which comes from the future - from destroying all sentient life in the universe. Skynet hijacks Section 31's Captain Leland and injects him with nanobots (or something borg'sh) and makes a meat puppet out of him - ala Terminator 5's John Connor - did I mention time travel?

Are the lines in this show written by 9gag kids? Spock literally says "I love science" in this episode.

Are the gonna make Leland the first Borg? When he got injected with the nano probes his skin turned grey for a while. This certainly doesn't line up with the time line of the Borg Collective which has presumably exist since the 14th century ("Dragon's Teeth, VOY).

Also, the obvious rip-off of Skynet is way too obvious. The plot is almost exactly the same as in Terminator. The problem is that we don't know anything about this "Control" computer, it was shoehorned in after we already know that there was an AI threat, just like the Cyborg girl, getting all her backstory in the episode where her being a mole was already revealed. This show always expects us to care for things that haven't properly been introduced. It's pace is way too fast, probably caused by the fact they wanna cram as much stuff in as possible in a season because of the constant threat of the show falling apart.

>>30500

Marx never said that.

>>30504

>This show always expects us to care for things that haven't been properly introduced.

The last three or four episodes specifically have felt like exceptionally poor fanfiction. The same could be said for the whole series, but lately it's been more and more evident with the breakneck pacing, continuous asspulls, major characters and concepts introduced and thrown out in the same episode, previous characters & concepts completely forgotten about, and the blatant and egregious virtue signaling. You can just picture the writers sitting around a table trying to one-up each other.

The whole "Control" AI plot is laughable in its execution. You'd think the season-long antagonist would have some kind of big reveal, or some sort of thematic or dramatic weight. I don't even remember how we found out about it. I think Admiral Corncob just said "We have this AI and it's gone rogue?"

We're being pummeled with the tag line that cataclysmic galaxy-ending events revolve around this AI, but we don't know anything about how it became self-aware, who created it, or what its motivations are. It doesn't even have a consistent physical representation; It's a non-character.

Why not just make the airlock'd cyborg girl the vessel for the AI? At least give the crew some personal motivation to try and save her and/or the galaxy. We're told all life is at stake, but it feels like there are ZERO stakes.

So what is all this about an AI? What exactly does it do?

Did the Prime timeline give Daystrom a hundred times more funding and even less safety than in canon?

Let it be known that the whole latter part of the episode's conflict and drama could've been avoided if Georgiou had taken the little device off the container instead of just leaving it there and pushing the off button. I refuse to believe the character is that stupid, especially when we know she doesn't trust S31 dude and has suspicions about him, even before Mama Burnham said the line that triggered her memory.

>amazing how child Michael is both a better character and actor than adult Michael

>honestly can't believe they couldn't tell the difference between a mother and daughter's DNA

>this episode 100% showed that having the whole Vulcan backstory for Michael was a mistake. Her having to deal with her parents' deaths (or apparent deaths) her whole life was much more interesting than the ALSO SHE WAS RAISED BY SPOCK'S PARENTS. It's a plainer backstory for a fictional character, sure, but it leaves more room to make something interesting out of it and then bring in other story-driven elements.

>I hope that wasn't Borg tech I saw there. That's the last thing they need to make references to.

>Jim, did I ever tell you about my adopted sister's mother who used a suite developed by S31 to escape Klingon attack and ended up in a future 950 years from now where the known galaxy was wiped out by a rouge AI? She was a good friend

>What is Spock's purpose in this show, besides the nostalgiabait? Everything that has happened could be rewritten just enough to have happened to Michael (for example), specifically seeing the Red Angel and having knowledge about the red beacons or whatever. Right now it feels like he just shows up to remind people he's also here and to bitch with Michael.

>also, "I love science", jesus christ, what have they done to you, Spock? It wasn't enough that you being a half-breed dyslexic somehow made you special enough to remember (?) a time traveling woman, now they've also given you Marvel/Joss Whedon tier quips. Remember how fucking witty and cozy his banter with Bones was? I miss that.

>still wondering where the real CMO is. I sometimes feel like I'm the only one who gives a fuck. Every time they go for medical advice from Gay Guy, it feels like Spock or Kirk asking Chapel to help them out even though McCoy is still perfectly available.

>"Hamlet? Hell, yeah" fucking kill me

>Michael's mom having gone somewhat insane having to time travel all the time, but not being able to save the galaxy is nice. It gives you a good feel of the character and what she's gone through, which is more than I can say about 95% of cast of STD.

>I feel like Georgiou and Ash's relationship has potential. It would give them both something to do besides "muh Michael", even if it is the reason they would work together. But they have a violent past that she is proud of and he isn't that could lead to some interesting interactions.

Oh boy, more Klingon mumbling next episode, can't wait for that.

>>30518

> I don't even remember how we found out about it.

now that you've said it, I honestly can't remember when we found out about it either. And I've watched every episode. It feels like it got completely buried under other boring and irrelevant bullshit.

>>30518

The pace truly has become ridiculous fast. I mean, ST was never known for its fast pace, they didn't have to make it look like it's the newest incarnation of the Terminator or Pirates of the Caribbean franchise to break with that tradition. Again, there is literally nothing wrong with injecting more juice into a genre which has largely been dead since the end of VOY by having a continuous story, more grim-dark drama with grey characters and even a bit more action. The problem is the execution of all these hallmarks of STD feels either overdone or simply amateurishly done. I have my problems with the Orville because it plays it so damn save by imitating TNG with a bit of McFarlane humour, and I don't think you can just copy-paste TNG and VOY, but this is just how you don't do it in every aspect.

Kurtzman has said that the Picard show will be slower and more focused around Picard with less action. He's maybe realising that what he did with STD turned out to be a silly circus.

>I think Admiral Corncob just said "We have this AI and it's gone rogue?"

Imagine Picard's Earl Grey replicator malfunctions which causes the death of the universe. Or Porthos in ENT gets infected by one of Phlox's slugs and turns into a Leviathan that will eat the universe.

>>30519

It's space Skynet that turned Leland into the John Connor terminator from Terminator 5 which will be the origin of the Borg.

>>30526

>>this episode 100% showed that having the whole Vulcan backstory for Michael was a mistake. Her having to deal with her parents' deaths (or apparent deaths) her whole life was much more interesting than the ALSO SHE WAS RAISED BY SPOCK'S PARENTS.

Let's not kid ourselves here, the only reason they made it like that is so they can cannibalize on some TOS nostalgia. There is zero reason to have her being raised by Sarek other than marketing reasons, as people on this board have repeatedly pointed out.

>>30518

>I don't even remember how we found out about it.

It was the episode when Spock finally reveals he had a vision of a some unknown enemy that will one day destroy every federation world. Then 15 minutes after that scene, Admiral Brianna Wu mentions "I just don't understand why section 13 is so intent on stopping Spock" Oh hey by the way, did you know we have this special super computer that tells us what to do, and it's kept at the section 13 base we haven't been able to contact anyone at? but I'm sure that's not related at all."

No, seriously that was how it was introduced.

>>30530

>Kurtzman has said that the Picard show will be slower and more focused around Picard with less action. He's maybe realising that what he did with STD turned out to be a silly circus.

Kurtzman also said that Spock would never appear on STD.

>>29040

People need to understand that STD (including many other franchises) is just a vehicle for female/minority empowerment and straight white male disempowerment with Star Trek themes. If the entire Star Trek franchise dies because they beat it to death with "wokeness" it doesn't matter because Star Trek is basically just a straight white male thing anyways. When people criticize it it doesn't matter because the criticism can be deflected with accusations of misogyny, racism, homophobia, etc regardless whether the criticism and accusations are valid. Once you realize this then STD should make a lot more sense.

>>29040

That can't be real. It just sounds like shit tier fanfiction and no self-respecting professional writer would think any of that is a good idea. Sarcasm aside JewJew did a real number on the Star Trek franchise.

>>30558

>Sarcasm aside JewJew did a real number on the Star Trek franchise.

I used to think so too. But with all that's happened with STD I'm starting to wonder if Kurtzman, not Abrams, was the real problem the whole time and Abrams just gets more blame because he had a higher public profile.

Ha ur gay faggot boomer show stands for std

>>30559

The problem with Abrams was that he was never really interested in ST. His reboot was basically just his application for Star Wars. That's why JewJewTrek is so forgettable.

>>30332

Lol most of them are crazy, drugged-up, fags who talk like that normally

>>29040

It's abbreviated to DIS, just like VOY and ENT.

Literally no Star Trek TV series has had ST in the abbreviation.

>>30571

1. Imagine giving a shit about something so pointless as the show's abbreviation in the face of all the egregious and indefensible bullshit it contains.

2. It's abbreviated STD as a sign of disrespect because it's not a proper Trek show. It doesn't respect the themes or history of Trek, and doesn't even take place in the canon timeline. Calling it STD instead of DIS is what's known as a "joke." You'll find a lot of those on the internet.

3. Fuck off.

>>30572

I thought jokes were meant to be funny.

>>30573

I think it's fucking hysterical. Almost as funny as the faggots who defend this garbage show.

>>30574

How am I defending the show? I never even watched it. I just saw "STD" on the home page and wondered why someone would title a show that.

>>30373

>Some people were saying she was pregnant during filming this season, but I don't know if thats confirmed or not.

Was it a throat pregnancy to give her all those extra chins?

>>30576

Because it is AIDS.

>>29177

I microwaved a dog turd while listening to Star Trekkin. It was more enjoyable than STD

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Motherfucking neckbeards. I came here for Sexually Transmitted Diceases only to stumble upon a virginity reeking thread.

Kill yourselves.

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>>30617