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9c90a2 No.28328 [View All]

YOU WILL ACCEPT THE FEDERATION OR I WILL KILL YOU

Terra Prime did nothing wrong.

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ce4d32 No.28582

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>>28576

>That (((Ferengi))) banged a Klingon, Romulan and probably all of his diversity hired dabo girls. He hounded after the Bajoran and the Trill too.

>his one regret was never being able to tap that Changeling ass

No kidding. There was definitely a lot of sexual tension between Quark and Odo, right from the start. I think Odo subconsciously likes the bad boys.

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065854 No.28585

>>28582

So naturally he fell in love with the ultimate bad boy, bulldyke Nerys.

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a0ee14 No.28595

>>28582

Don't google the fanart of this, I am warning you now. It's at least not as bad as Garak and Bashir

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deb273 No.28601

>>28576

>ST:E [is] not canon

Enterprise is canon though. It was literally written and produed by the same lot of showrunners as Voyager and DS9.

Plus, most of Enterprise's plot lines are actually vital to many story arcs, including The Borg, the Federation, the Vulcan-Romulan relationship, Surak as well as many other things.

The only thing people quote when they claim non-canonicity of Enterprise is when those Ferengi pirates board the Enterprise and try to steal everything. Which itself can be explained away, since the Ferengi never actually identified themseles as such, and they were pirates, not actual representatives of the Ferengi Alliance.

Anyone who claims that Enterprise is non-canon is an idiot who contributed to the death of Star Trek in the early 2000s and cemented the future of Trek, which will be defined by these cash grab series which seem to milk the franchise for brand recognition rather than actually doing something creatively fulfilling.

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1bfd0b No.28612

>>28601

ENT getting killed is down to oversaturation of Trek and Voyager. Everyone was pissed with Voyager so they never gave Enterprise a chance. Plus the fact the writers had a hard on for the Temporal Cold War which was started with Voyager and kept going with it despite nobody really liking it.

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57ee8f No.28633

>>28612

they should have just kept going with DS9; there's no reason you can't have 30 seasons or something.

It's not like any of the star trek casts from any of the shows ever does much of value after star trek.

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fda651 No.28634

>>28633

Actually DS9 cast for the most part did.

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8f1c5e No.28641

>>28634

If you mean outside of Trek, then not really.

Most of the actors in DS9 just went into obscurity and into theatre.

Armin Shimmerman became popular for voice acting though. His career basically boomed afterwards, mostly because he can do a great variety of voices, and can get into character pretty quickly.

Voyager's cast had more people go onto other things. Kate Mulgrew went on to do a few different TV dramas before becoming famous again in the Netflix series, "Orange is the New Black". Jeri Ryan went on to do a few TV dramas before making her way into US crime dramas, including Body of Proof. Robert Picardo did a few things, including Stargate Atlantis. Connor Trinneer from Enterprise would also appear in Stargate Atlantis as well as another Stargate series. John Billingsley from Enterprise would also appear in another sci-fi with a co-star from Enterprise, Seth McFarlane, but that's the Orville…. Speaking of Enterprise, Scott Bakula went on to star in NCIS: New Orleans, but his time in sci-fi basically ended.

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bf0682 No.28644

>>28641

You kidding right?

Rene Auberjonois went on to do loads of things and semi-retired to do voice acting.

Alexander Siddig has done loads of shows as well, including 24, Peaky Blinders, Gotham. None of which are obscure.

Colm Meaney has done loads of films albeit they are mostly European, but they are not that obscure.

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8f1c5e No.28646

>>28644

Siddig has been someone who has remained mostly out of my popular culture radar, so to speak. That might be because I haven't watched regular television in 2 years, or because I don't live in the US.

Colm Meaney is someone I now know more for politics than I do most of his acting. Con Air was the last major US film I remember him being in. He was also in a film produced by the BBC, "Alan Partridge: Alpha Papa", which was based on a British sitcom. Oh, and he was also in a film, "The Journey" which was based on the Northern Irish peace process.

Colm Meaney is someone who unironically appears relatively often enough in politics where I live, since he is a Sinn Féin party member, and has been doing stuff again and again about Irish unification.

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f16463 No.28648

I sure want to accept that Big Vulcan Cock

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79c59c No.28699

>>28372

>>28374

Terra Prime was conceived of before anyone could imagine Trump as president.

As for Starship Troopers, I don't want veterans taking over the government. They're all whinny cunts who demand more gov handouts than most niggers–far from the hard working disciplined people the movie suggests.

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113109 No.28705

>>28699

>Terra Prime…before Trump

The message is the same and correct.

>whinny cunts

Is this some gay britcuck spelling? Outsourcing your defense to America is why you are getting invaded. No wonder you support the EU and the space EU aka the Federation.

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e29dee No.28760

Democracy would be a lot better if you could only vote after national service.

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878165 No.28762

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>>28760

Temporarily, yes. In the long run, you would see what happened to the franchise in the US happen to the armed forces; in an effort to create new voting blocs, politicians will lower entry requirements to allow people who will vote for them into the service. Repeat this process several times until its piss-easy to get into the military, and the service is so weakened and diluted it becomes nothing more than a combination social club and welfare dispensary. If you think the military is cucked now, imagine how bad it would be if membership became a political tool.

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4e42b1 No.28776

>>28328

I remember that episode of Enterprise where human terrorists were trying to show how the Federation was promoting human miscegenation with aliens. I can't remember the episode though I think it was in one the later seasons.

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8f1c5e No.28785

>>28776

That was the two part episode, "Terra Prime".

Also, it wasn't the Federation, it was the United Earth, although the incident took place during talks for the formation of the "Coalition of Planets", a military alliance between multiple homeworlds for mutual defence as well as establishing trade deals.

The Coalition of Planets ended some time in the 23rd Century as the final members joined the United Federation of Planets which rendered the Coalition obsolete.

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7a2b67 No.28801

>>28760

>democracy would be better if you could only vote after being specifically brainwashed by the ruling party's military apparatus

You fucking moron.

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84b92f No.28806

>>28762

You but liberals will never get to vote.

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113109 No.28827

All Starfleet is are the jackbooted enforces of a failed ideology known as "interstellarism". The idea that species across the galaxy can unite under one government. I wonder what year it is estimated that humans become a minority on their own home world.

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8f1c5e No.28829

>>28827

According to Star Trek lore, never.

Earth's population, at least after WWIII, skyrockets, which is why several colonies are established, not only on the Moon, but also on Mars as well as on other solar systems.

Outside of San Francisco, there's not really much reason for people visiting from other worlds to really go to places on Earth.

OK, sure Paris becomes the place where the President of the United Federation of Planets sits, but once again, it's either UFP or Starfleet installations where visitors from other planets would be drawn to.

I mean, who the hell would be interested in going to New Orleans, unless you were visiting a friend?

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9982dc No.28830

>>28829

I imagine there's a lot of crinkle-noses going to visit new Orleans for some religious pilgrimage bullshit.

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8f1c5e No.28831

>>28830

Uh…. that's maybe an interesting point, but those are technically tourists, they'll be going home after they're done.

In a post-scarcity society, what would attract someone to move to Earth from another planet, like say…….. Andoria? I could understand an Andorian diplomat, or an Andorian officer in Starfleet. But an Andorian civilian? Hmm….

For the most part, it just seems like most aliens who visit Earth are just visitors who will be on their merry way not long after. Even if you include the Naussicans who do create trouble on Earth from time to time, the point is that they've not settled on Earth, they're just passing through for whatever reason.

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79c59c No.28835

>>28829

Earth was able to colonize the moon and mars post WWIII?

I guess I've misread the series, I always assumed after the war most people had regressed to barbarism, and Zefram was just some weird Brotherhood of Steel-like hold out.

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af27ed No.28876

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>>28835

So you are saying there are Moonmen in Trek?

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8f1c5e No.28884

>>28835

>Earth was able to colonize the moon and mars post WWIII?

The series is incredibly vague throughout with regards to what happened before the NX-01 Enterprise, and continues to be vague even afterwards, at least as far as the Earth-Romulan War goes.

Even during WWIII, at least according to the dates, it's established that space agencies were still sending people to explore the solar system. When they launched, or who was their ground control was never made clear.

Moon colonisation was done at some point after WWIII, but it's implied that people who had the money went there first, because of the large number of resources which could be mined from the moon. Meanwhile the likes of Zefram were more like the poor common people who basically were living in shanty towns across the world.

Mars colonisation occured predominantly after First Contact, but it's established that Mars colonisation was initiated before then, but it's still unclear how far they got before First Contact.

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c3a0ef No.28902

>>28884

>shanty town

How did Cochrane get his PHD? He is supposed to be 30is in First Contact which means he was born in the late 2020s or 2030s. That is right when WWIII starts.

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24013c No.28904

>>28902

He was clearly a Vulcan sleeper agent. Explains his unusual long lived age for the time.

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8f1c5e No.28913

>>28902

He either got his PhD after his warp flight, or he got it in his early 20s, either before or after WWIII. Remember: First Contact was in 2063, so "30s" can be anywhere between 30 and 39, and if I'm honest, he looks a lot more like 39.

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79c59c No.28914

>>28876

In an almost literal sense.

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c3a0ef No.28959

>>28913

Supposedly he looks older than he is because the radiation from the Phoenix aged him a bit. I think I read that on memory alpha.

Q in TNG says WWIII is in the early 2030s I believe.

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79c59c No.29077

>>28884

If we accept purely Trek timelines and ignore reality, humans visited Mars in the late 1980s according to TOS, and (again?) in the 2030s according to VOY.

Fuck it I can't sort this out. Probably not worth trying.

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c3a0ef No.29078

>>29077

TOS should be viewed as sort of a weird prequel. Any part of TOS that contradicts later Star Trek should be ignored IMO. Star Trek wasn't designed as a long lasting franchise.

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57ee8f No.29085

>>28913

>39

more like 59

he was a raging alcoholic though

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ee1365 No.29126

>>29078

>>29077

Just blame it on teh Temperoal Cold War :^)

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014ead No.29129

>>28451

>as we've seen, even as far ahead as the 31st century, humans are still a destinct species

No, your example is about 56% human. He lists the species he has "a little bit of" in him.

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014ead No.29133

>>29129

also: we /poltrek/ now.

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f2baca No.29137

>>29126

Any inconsistency can be blamed on the temporal cold war(s) with that logic. The temporal cold war would also validate the Kelvin timeline which is something I refuse to do.

>>28451

Elizabeth, the human vulcan hybrid, died because of the "bad" science used. Also implying that activists are dumb and can't do science. People are forced to have sex with non-humans. If everyone around you has partial non-human ancestry and you want a gf then you have no choice to species mix.

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e7e041 No.29163

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>>29133

we've always been /polstrek/. HowNew.ru?

GUL DUKAT DID NOTHING WRONG

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532b6a No.29164

>>29163

We're Right Wing Gym Squads.

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c95f22 No.29169

>TFW Myriad Universes novel "A Less Perfect Union" covers this universe had it come to fruition

Anyone ever read that novella? I own it and love the story, but it sure as fuck not what I was thinking Terra Prime Starfleet would be…

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5ef522 No.29170

>>28582

why do people feel the need to push a 'sexual tension' angle whenever two male characters spend a lot of time together on screen? I honestly don't see it there. A mutual respect, potentially, but wanting to bone each other (or whatever Ferengi have for genitalia) not so much.

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bc45c7 No.29174

>>29170

Because Platonic male companionship and camaraderie is problematic and toxic, anon. It's literally impossible for any man to feel a bond to another man without it becoming trivialized into something petty and sexual in CY+4, brotherhood is just out of date, doncha know.

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1ca2c5 No.29224

>>29170

It is nowhere near as bad as Bashir and Garak.

>>29174

I hate this isn't a meme anymore but true.

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3b1d2b No.29253

The Terran Empire just didn't understand you can catch more flies with Root Beer than with Vinegar

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5ef522 No.29269

>>29224

>Bashir and Garak

That relationship is a lot easier to portray as 'sexually tense' even flirtatious - until you remember that Garak is bored as hell and just turning up the hamminess to entertain himself with the closest thing he's found to intelligent company in a long time. Besides, everyone knows that Garak/Tora is the only actual love story in DS9

>>29174

The Eugenics Wars can't come soon enough. I'd even accept Benedict Cumminbutt as Khan if that's what it took.

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e7e041 No.29288

>>29269

I always call him Bentdick Cummysnatch.

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f05875 No.29329

>>29269

There is only one true love for any Cardassian and that is the State

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7488bd No.30009

>>29164

>Right Wing Gul Squads

FTFY

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15dd2f No.30237

>>30009

They aren't swole enough.

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