76b7ce No.24796 [View All]
I never got the chance to really watch DS9 i remember like 5 episodes I watched these where:
<The one with the gambling aliens who teleport the officers into a game
<The planet of the warriors who fight and never die
<Lots of Ferengi episodes
<The holodeck episode where Sisko as a fictional James Bond like character gambles to prevent his death (the safeties where of) and talked to this James Bond like villain that he is on his sides and preses the button on his dooms day weapon to destroy the (fictional holodect) world. This pauses the villain and the rest of the crew has time to rescue Sisko
<The trip to Risa episode
<Some dominion episodes
So I decided to watch it from start to finish.
I was thinking S1 will be boring like watching paint dry.
There are some crazy episodes in S1 however its a handful of good episodes between mediocre ones.
I'm in S2 and the mix is some hood between loads of pointless and even boring ones.
Why are there so many episodes that are simply boring or uneventful.
02x10 Sanctuary
looks ok and is entertaining to watch however what even was the point of this episode?
Some aliens show up, they can not be understood by the universal translator (this could be a great idea for a episode however the translator translates them on its own = waisted opportunity).
The aliens are different.
These aliens are nasty.
They delude themselves based on some stupid old prophesy that Bajor is their homeland or place to go or something.
They want to go to Bajor.
Bajorans say NO.
one kid steals a shuttle or something for a unknown reason the shuttle has some defects and he explodes himself over Bajor on accidence.
The episode ends.
There are to many inconsequential episodes that are simply boring or even pointless.
And the show lives up to its name of being like watching paint dry.
DS9 lacks any high fiction (time travel, parallel episodes, really strange things) something that was often from the start in other series and something I like to watch even in other shows. Give me more Q, more time travel more holodeck malfunction episodes.
For a show that was supposed to be a long time story driven adventure it seriously lacks the long and story part from S1 and even into S2.
All important story events are about in 4 episodes and the other ones are simply boring.
I will keep this thread updated as I watch DS9.
If someone knows or has a list of what episodes to skip I appreciate it.
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606bd0 No.24962
>>24961
>databased!
By the dictionary definition even a paper notebook is a database if the data is organized.
Its basically 1 HTML file where i write everything in (pictures tags) that uses data-tables a JS framework. Its not different from a word file only it works in every browser and its HTML.
Did not one of you comment on the functionality like hover to reveled spoilers and hover over tag to see why the episode was tagged?
In another question how can you recall all Dax relevant episodes of DS9? For example. All I need to is click on one column.
PS: I'm contractually tinkering with the format and I was thinking on overloading (the word hack would be appropriate the word is overused) the search functionality (datatables has a build in search functionality if you did not know) to basically use it to only show one tag so ican see in what seasons and episodes this tag was most predominant.
To accomplish this i simply add a "special" tag at the end who will contain one field that will hold the names of all tags in a row thereby allowing my to make a search based on this criteria and narrow my database down. Because its a "special" column i will add it at the end and shrink the text down(at best to nothing) as not to expand the length of columns.
What do you think about this?
>your autism is an inspiratio
Did no one want to have such functionality? How do you remember episodes related to ferengi or Dax etc or the dominion?
The process I use is not more complicated then someone writing a post here.
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da7902 No.24970
>>24816
>Is no one of you keeping records like this?
I keep records, I'm watching through Voyager at the minute:
5x01 5/10 Night - The crew enter an empty region of space. Janeway regrets stranding the crew and risks stranding herself in order to close the vortex
5x02 4/10 Drone - Due to a transporter accident, Seven's nano probes mix with the Doctor's mobile emitter which creates a Borg drone in the science lab
5x03 2/10 Extreme Risk - Voyager must retrieve a probe before the Malon get it, meanwhile B'Elanna runs risky holodeck simulations with the safety off. They
build the Delta Flyer, Tuvok "We are not building a hot-rod"
5x04 6/10 In the Flesh - Species 8472 recreate Starfleet headquarters episode
5x05 2/10 Once Upon a Time - The Delta Flyer crashes with Ensign Wildman on it, meanwhile Naomi & Neelix go to the holodeck
5x06 7/10 Timeless - Reset episode (sorta), 15 years on, Harry & Chakotay send a message back in time to prevent Voyagers destruction. Janeway says the quantum
slipstream drive got them nearly 10 years closer to home
5x07 3/10 Infinite Regress - Seven experiences multiple personalities
5x08 7/10 Nothing Human - A parasite attaches itself to B'Elanna and the EMH uses a hologram of a cardassian war criminal doctor to help
5x09 6/10 Thirty Days - Paris disobeys orders to try to save an ocean planet and gets demoted to ensign plus 30 days in the brig
5x10 7/10 Counterpoint - Janeway hides telepathic refugees in the transporter buffer
5x11 6/10 Latent Image - Janeway erases the Doctor's memory of choosing one patient's life over another
5x12 2/10 Bride of Chaotica - Photonic life forms think the Captain Proton holodeck program is real
5x13 6/10 Gravity - Paris, Tuvok, and the Doctor are trapped on a planet in a gravity well with a time dialation
5x14 6/10 Bliss - A space monster telepathicly tricks the crew in to thinking they've found a wormhole home, captain Ahab episode
5x15/16 8/10 Dark Frontier: Parts 1 & 2 - Seven is captured by the Borg Queen. At the end Janeway says the transwarp coil got them 20,000 light-years or 15
years closer to home.
5x17 7/10 The Disease - Harry gets laid episode. Discusses individuality VS the collective.
5x18 4/10 Course: Oblivion - Janeway refers to Paris as Lieutenant
5x19 3/10 The Fight - Chakotay boxing episode, Voyager gets stuck in chaotic space
5x20 8/10 Think Tank - A group of aliens want to trade Seven for a solution to Voyager's latest threat
5x21 4/10 Juggernaut - MOTW episode, Voyager helps a Malon cargo ship that is carrying toxic waste
5x22 3/10 Someone to Watch Over Me - The Doctor gets Paris he can find Seven a date, meanwhile Neelix let's an alien ambassador get drunk. Has it's funny
moments "Seven of mine"
5x23 2/10 11:59 - Janeway's ancestor during the turn of the millennium
5x24 6/10 Relativity - Captain Braxton sabotages Voyager and Seven is recruited by a 29th century timeship to stop him
5x25 7/10 Warhead - Harry beems aboard an artificial intelligence which turns out to be a bomb. Good acting from the Doctor
5x26 8/10 Equinox: Part 1
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9c5ea6 No.24971
>>24957
Garak was a one-off character that everyone liked so much that he was brought back as supporting cast.
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67e025 No.24972
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b90c9d No.24981
>>24971
I did not know this sources on this.
I think most cardassians are extremely charismatic (Dukat, Garak) and this is why everyone likes them.
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b90c9d No.24982
>>24970
OP here thanks for the answer.
Its really nice to know I'm not the only one one a counter question.
In what do you write this down?
is is a TXT file or some word document (to get the table look)?
And would you be interested in using my method?
Because I was thinking about recording it in a TXT file etc however then I searched how to get some datatable action so I can sort the best rated episodes of the series or season or to see all Garak episodes or Holodoctor episodes.
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da7902 No.24984
>>24982
I just use Notepad for simplicity and maximum compatibility.
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b4b24f No.25204
not op but
>that mirror universe episode
>Bashir is torturing Kira
>she asks to have the setting turned up
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81104e No.25265
OP Here I decided to update everyone
S1 was fun with its silly ideas.
S2 was watching paint dry for the most part
I'm in S3 and things got interesting with the Dominion.
Good episodes overall.
However the writers decided to inject a boring episode named Meridian
Its a 2 stories in 1 episode (I should start tagging this) and perfect for demonstrating my workflow.
Needless to say I feel like a KBG agent tagging things that are in these episodes especially that I decided to tag Odos interest in food and cooking. You really feel like a KGB agent writing things like
>Garak implies that he and Dukat have history also with Dukat's father. is this real or only Cardassian subversive talk?
Complete with time codes!
You also notice that this episode Meridian perfectly demonstrates a couple of things:
1) I often copy past the same report under multiple tags (look at the Economy and Anti-Communism where I simply copy pasted the same observation)
2) There is a category that translate to "Distinguished otherwise" for most episodes its empty however in Meridian it is filled with
>This one episode where Quork tries to holo scan Kira with multiple scams and tricks.
>in this episode we see Quorks head on Kiras body in a implied sexual holo program, this is a trick from Kira to punish Quork.
Complete with time code of the event!
Because how else would you remember
<What is the episode where Quork did have his head on Kiras body?
See the database is extremely useful.
The other thing is that I mark spoilers and I marked with inviability and only if you hover over them you will see the spoiler.
Without further talk here is my entry for "Meridian" translated by google translate.
!!! Warning wall of text inbound !!!
——————
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
[to be contined]
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81104e No.25266
>>25265
79%
2 stories in 1 episode.
During the exploration of the Gama Quadrant, the Defient crew encounters a planet that suddenly appears.
(very boring)
In the meantime, Quork has an order from a client who wants to have his own holo program and Kira to do it Quork needs to take Kira to the holo deck to scan her.
(interesting and cool)
>spoilers:
DAX falls in love with an alien on the planet, wants to stay with him, prepares to stay, but in spite of all this, the planet goes away and DAX must be pulled out or she will die.
>Distinguished otherwise
This episode where Quorks head is on a sexy body.
————
This episode where Quork wants to get a kiry scan to create a holo program for Kent, but not everything goes according to plan.
Kira modifies the holo program that Quork created for her representation (acquired without her permission) to have her body but Quorka's head.
[38:38]
>Odo
>3
(3)
Quork uses a device to try to take a holo photo of Kira.
Odo ruuje it and goes to confront with Quork.
[25:01]
(3)
Odo is interested in how Kira drinks coffee.
The conversation goes into whether Odo ate anywhere.
Odo says he has no taste in his mouth.
And tells how for the first time after turning into a humanoid, he tried to eat but the tasteless whole process was unsatisfying.
[0:00]
(2)
Kira lied that Odo is her lover to get rid of an obsessive guy who wants to have an affair with Kira.
Odo is surprised and only nods.
[0:00]
>Quork & Odo
>5
(5)
Quork uses a device to try to take a holo photo of Kira.
Odo ruins it and goes to confront with Quork.
[25:01]
>Kira
>4
(4)
Kira lied that Odo is her lover to get rid of an obsessive guy who wants to have an affair with Kira.
Odo is surprised and only nods.
[0:00]
(3)
Quork uses a device to try to take a holo photo of Kira.
[25:01]
>DAX
>5
(5)
DAX wants to stay on this planet with an alien whom he loves and will have a great break in his normal presence (he will return to normal space in about 60 years).
[34:01]
(5)
DAX and this alien are beginning to coax.
[18:00]
>Romans
>6
(6)
DAX and this alien are beginning to coax.
[18:00]
(0)
Kira lied that Odo is her lover to get rid of an obsessive guy who wants to have an affair with Kira.
Odo is surprised and only nods.
[0:00]
>Ferengi
>4
(4)
Quork wants to recruit Kira to the holo deck to scan it.
She does it by fictitious calling and pretending that she is a 1m person who went through the door of his bar so she won
> wine
> 5 free roulette spins
> 1 free hour with a holo program of her choice
I will tell you honestly.
[15:46]
(2)
When using the holo Quork decks "satisfaction is not guaranteed" so you will not pay back when customers did not like the holo program.
[10:27]
>Quork
>4
(4)
Quork wants to recruit Kira to the holo deck to scan it.
She does it by fictitious calling and pretending that she is a 1m person who went through the door of his bar so she won
> wine
> 5 free roulette spins
> 1 free hour with a holo program of her choice
I will tell you honestly.
[15:46]
(3)
Quork uses a device to try to take a holo photo of Kira.
[25:01]
(2)
When using the holo Quork decks "satisfaction is not guaranteed" so you will not pay back when customers did not like the holo program.
[10:27]
>Sex
>2
(2)
Quork offers a holo program
"Picnic with the goddess of pleasure"
Really obvious what's going on there.
Then (because the offers were not to his liking) the client wants to have a holo program with Kir-a and Quork does not even want to ask what he wants to do with her in the holo program.
[10:27]
(1)
When confronted with Quork, there are many suggestions on how the holo decks are used for sex, how to get along.
"Naked, of course"
or
a reference to the fact that you want to make sure everyone is wearing a uniform.
[25:01]
>Sex on the holo deck
>2
Quork offers a holo program
"Picnic with the goddess of pleasure"
It's really obvious what's going on.
Then (because the offers were not to his liking) the client wants to have a holo program with Kira and Quork does not even want to ask what he wants to do with her in the holo program.
[10:27]
(0)
The client goes to the holo deck with a program that he would like to suggested sex intent.
[38:38]
>Gama quadrant
>5
A planet that moves.
And everyone on it turns into "pure awareness."
>Smart
>5
Quork wants to recruit Kira to the holo deck to scan it.
She does it by fictitious calling and pretending that she is a 1m person who went through the door of his bar so she won
> wine
> 5 free roulette spins
> 1 free hour with a holo program of her choice
I will tell you honestly.
[to be contined]
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81104e No.25267
>>25266
>ST Tech
>3
(3)
Quork uses a device to try to take a holo photo of Kira.
[25:01]
(0)
Probes that can enter the sun with a slight modification of the dials.
[18:00]
[15:46]
>Kira
>5
Kira really does not like going to the holo deck even though Quork secretly plans to get her there to scan her.
>Costs and availability in ST
>3
Apparently the holo deck costs a lot and having your own holo deck is something the most wealthy people can buy.
He bought what he bought (and claims it is only a small gift for himself), treated like a super rich by Quorka.
Another question would be why everyone in the federation must share holo decks when outside the federation some have their own private holo decks.
[38:06]
>Economy
>3
(3)
Apparently the holo deck costs a lot and having your own holo deck is something the most wealthy people can buy.
He bought what he bought (and claims it is only a small gift for himself), treated like a super rich by Quorka.
Another question would be why everyone in the federation must share holo decks when outside the federation some have their own private holo decks.
[38:06]
(1)
DAX says half jokingly to tell Quork that he's ready to give her 3 Latinum strips he owes + 60 years interest when he returns.
[40:45]
>Pro-Capitalism
>3
Apparently the holo deck costs a lot and having your own holo deck is something the most wealthy people can buy.
He bought what he bought (and claims it is only a small gift for himself), treated like a super rich by Quorka.
Another question would be why everyone in the federation must share holo decks when outside the federation some have their own private holo decks.
[38:06]
>Anti-Communism
>0
Apparently the holo deck costs a lot and having your own holo deck is something the most wealthy people can buy.
He bought what he bought (and claims it is only a small gift for himself), treated like a super rich by Quorka.
Another question would be why everyone in the federation must share holo decks when outside the federation some have their own private holo decks.
[38:06]
>Funny
>4
Kira modifies the holo program that Quork created so that her representation (obtained without her consent) had her body but Quorka's head.
[38:38]
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b6d50a No.25424
OP here with another update.
So I'm at "The Die Is Cast" and I have to say DS9 is getting better (S2 did have some real boring episodes while the episodes in S1 where at least silly in their absurdity to watch) the recent episodes did have a good score:
>Improbable Cause
88%
>Through the Looking Glass
90%
I like me some Mirror universe
>Distant Voices
95%
This is why I love Trek the often dream, parallel universe, insanity episodes.
>Visionary
90%
I like these kind of episodes.
>Prophet Motive
96%
Ferengi + my favorite topic = best episode.
>Destiny
82%
However in some DS9 episodes there is a stiffens like there is something needed to get the ball rolling fluidly. To fully explore the topic.
For example one of my favorite Stargate SG1 episodes is "Window of Opportunity" they really explored the implications of a time loop.
Everything in that episode flowed and fas fluid and I'm not even talking about the MEME-tastic moments everyone remembers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMBNJ1A_CjI
However they where good.
Its like DS9 lacs some gees to get the ball rolling.
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b6d50a No.25426
OP here I finished "The Die Is Cast"and its a good episode however I think I dump here the biggest problem I have with the crew of DS9.
This episode demonstrates the problem.
I think practically every character in DS9 is like this and Sisko embodies this problem.
What is the best way to explain this Sisko operates near comically on the basis of what is Téa Gardner from Yu-Gi-Oh! Abridged http://ygotas.wikia.com/wiki/T%C3%A9a_Gardner reasoning. Or if this is to obscure for you Sisko behaves like he is a my little pony from friendship is magic only 100% logically to its brutal conclusion in a universe that is semi realistic.
Siskos prime function or motto is "Friendship is magic" this is his prime reasoning and basis in everything.
The episode is a great example:
Why is Sisko going ageists 2 direct orders?
>Because he wants to save Odo.
Why is Saving Odo so important?
>Because Odo is Siskos friend (actually Odo is some extremely autistic jackass who harasses Quork on the station that Sisko controls however that constitutes friendship for Sisko).
Why is Sisko willing to risk dragging the federation into the war with the Dominion or a war with Kardasia and the Romulans?
>Because friendship is magic and you do everything to help a friend.
Why is Sisko treating the chain of command, direct orders from superiors (2 times!) and his oath to the federation like its some toilet paper?
>Because friendship is magic and you do everything to help a friend.
You see the problem Mr. Benjamin "friendship is magic" Sisko literally deserts his posts violates orders and will go AWOL to save 1 friend even if this means destroying the federation.
This is literally his rationality that the show unironicaly presents.
After this incident he is not striped of his command by his superior for no reason whatsoever.
This is not even explained this illogical even occurrences and we are informed of it.
Presumably Sisko sang a entire song about the magic of friendship to his superior who was enchanted by the magic of friendship Sisko has in his hart.
Another example of this bad behavior (all violations by Sisko are logged from the start)
What can be thrown under "talking shit" (this never materializes)
<01x08 Dax
Sisko is basically insinuation
>Hey gang lets lie and fabricate evidence or try to fine loop holes because Dax is my friend and we are going to save Dax regardless of what the truth is.
>Because friendship is magic and you do everything to help a friend.
<01x15 Progress
Sisko encourages the faking of reports to hide Kira's disobedience of direct orders.
>Because friendship is magic and you do everything to help a friend.
However "The Die Is Cast" is the prime example of this Sisko literally violates orders and sees no punishment or explanation for his actions, talk about living in a universe with no consequences!
I also noticed that there is a unhealthy obsession with the
>Friendship above everything else
Motive in retrospect.
<Heart of Stone
Can be summarized with
>Fuck romance and love and all this shit friendship is above everything else!
By Odo.
<Invasive Procedures
Basically the same only more extrema
>Fuck you! You are only my life long lover Sisko is my friend!!1111ONEONEONE
From the Trill.
However this can be spin doctored begin a Trill thing or the guy going crazy or overloaded from the procedure.
There are quotes about "valuing our friendship" etc.
It silly if you think about it, the show should be called "The friendship station in space".
I seriously did no expect this craziness from the show.
At least Sisko is self consistent in valuing friendship above everything else, only if he did have a MLP doll in his office and talked about MLP instead of baseball the image would be complete.
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8961a8 No.25440
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77ea67 No.25467
>>25440
>Quark
Thanks sometimes I make mistakes.
Can you point out where I wrote it wrong?
I'm genially interested no sarcasm.
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9c37c9 No.25468
>>25467
>Ctrl + F 'Quork
1 of 39 matches prior to this post
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77ea67 No.25471
>>25468
Dang me.
Why don't they say it like this on the show?
Qu-Ark
With a Ark sound?
Tanks for pointing this out, DS9 has really weird names to write.
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46a17c No.25491
>>25471
>DS9 has really weird names to write.
English in general is like that in a lot of places. For instance the word for that thing in your chest that pumps blood is "heart," even though it sounds like "hart."
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2280c8 No.25522
>>25471
>Why don't they say it like this on the show?
They do. I think you just don't notice because Quark and Quork actually do sound extremely similar and English isn't you first language. Quark is an actual English word, quork is not. A quark is a type of elementary particle. It's also a kind of cheese, but it's not very common in the English speaking world. It's more of a European food.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark_(disambiguation)
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500e8b No.25526
>>25522
>They do.
Interesting I try to notice it.
>>25491
Fun fact did you know that English is fucked the way it is because it was supposed to have a phonetics reform way back in the 1800s however no one did it and now you are stuck with the retardation of writing system?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPzAABMozs0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English-language_spelling_reform
Other languages don't have this retardation.
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46a17c No.25530
>>25526
English language is fucked mostly because it's an unholy union of Norman French and Anglo-Saxon German, with the former making up "educated" words and the latter more common, vernacular words. Norman French spelling was already slightly fucked because it used a Latin alphabet for a language that was no longer Latin; The creation of English made this even worse because unlike French, Anglo-Saxon German isn't even slightly related to Latin, so using a Latin alphabet with these Germanic words fucks things even more. Add in the fact that since then, we've pilfered vocabulary from Latin directly (as opposed to indirectly through the Frogs) as well as some Greek here and there, and things have gone from bad to worse. At this point, there's no sense in trying to reform the language–it's far beyond the point of no return, and as a native English speaker I take some perverse enjoyment in watching foreigners try and fail to make sense of our bizarre language, which we have no trouble with because we grew up speaking it.
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9fad7e No.25538
>>24796
You should watch everything, just understand that the writers got triggered towards the end and started sabotaging Dukat's character.
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9fad7e No.25539
>>25471
>Why don't they say it like this on the show?
Americans can't into vowels. Take how they say Mario for example.
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30c30e No.25549
>>25530
Now we pilfer from every language. If some language comes up with a new word that is popular for whatever reason, it becomes the English word for it too. Then we fuck it up by using our own pluralization rules or whatever.
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46a17c No.25550
>>25549
Too true. Tsunami, schaudenfraude, and others which escape me at the moment.
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03ce16 No.25556
>>25426
I like for someone to adress this problem with Sisko and his reasoning.
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6ee6d7 No.25557
>>25426
>actually Odo is some extremely autistic jackass who harasses Quork on the station that Sisko controls however that constitutes friendship for Sisko).
That's a cruel thing to say about Trek's best character.
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371b60 No.25563
>>25557
Yet its true.
I have logged Odos behavior (HAHAHAHA see now I have ammunition for debates like this) Odo has a unhealthy obsession with Quark.
Odos biggest fantasy is to see Quark in jail.
Odo like Sisko did extremely asinine shit in like repaying Quark for Quarks generosity(Quark did give Odo free information before trying to jump the station) with literally gang pressing him into service for help.
So if you help Odo he will fuck you over don't help him and he leaves you alone.
You want this evidence in time code format? Or do you want me to give you WebMs of Odos most asinine/autisticaly-obsessive behaviors?
I logged all of Odos behaviors and until this point (The Die Is Cast) Odo was nothing other then autistic shady and asinine. He literally did not deserve any sympathy or did anything good. His attitude before getting tortured sums him up perfectly.
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476ba4 No.25564
>>25556
you mean lack there of
>>25563
webm me up
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e980ad No.25565
>>25563
>So if you help Odo he will fuck you over don't help him and he leaves you alone.
Makes sense, given he's a Founder. Consider the story of the Vorta - they were a primitive ape/lemur-like species with the barest hint of sentience, one day a group of them helped protect a Founder from a lynching. How does the Founder repay them? Uplifts the entire species into an alpha-slave race brainwashing them into absolute fealty and directly controlling which of them can reproduce and then only through extensive cloning programs.
It's just plain in the Founders' nature to be treacherous bastards.
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386672 No.25598
>>25565
Depends how you look at it. The Vorta in turn gained control of the Jem'Hadar essentially becoming an aristocracy of a vast empire answering only to the Founders and engineered to not only be able to do their jobs well but enjoy it. Better treatment than they would have gotten from some random bunch of stimpac hittin space niggers who'd happened along.
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423fa5 No.25692
>>25563
Roses are Red
Violets are Blue
The Founders are Cunts
The Jem'Hadar are now After (You)
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60c636 No.25858
>>25692
>>25564
>webm me up
Sorry for the long break here is the material.
WTF! Seriously! Why can I not upload webms to this website!!!!!
Its always stuck at 100% and will not post. Someone give me instructions ! Because it never finishes uploading !
Here is the clip:
https://streamable.com/9nko2
https://www62.zippyshare.com/v/1QUf6IBt/file.html
Quark shows up and freely gives Odo extremely important intel.
Odo wants more intel.
Quark wants to get off the station.
Odo literally abuses his power and uses a bullshit reason to gang press(force recruit) Quark into working for him.
Moral of the story fuck Odo if you try to help this bastard he will punish you for this.
Leave the station, don't talk to the autist don't give him intel he will only fuck you over.
No good deed goes unpunished is Odos motto.
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2280c8 No.25860
>>25858
I get that if my webbums are close to the max file size. Probably a bug in 8chan's code. The file size is probably checked in two different places to two slightly different standards, and when it trips one but nit the other, it just hangs. That's my theory, anyway.
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e6ad2b No.25916
>>25530
>unlike French, Anglo-Saxon German isn't even slightly related to Latin
Not true. They're both Indo-European, and you can tell.
Consider: (languages in order are English, Latin, German, and Sanskrit for good measure)
>father, pater, Vater, pitar
>month, mensis, Monat, masa
>wind, ventus, Wind, vatah
But they are different enough that mashing them together fucks you up.
Then again, it has its advantages. It's thanks to the Germanic-Latinic mishmashery that we dropped grammatical gender, which always seems like more trouble than it's worth to me. When Old English sunne is feminine but Latin sol is masculine, and OE mona is masculine but Latin luna is feminine, it was easier to just do away with it all.
>>25550
>and others which escape me at the moment.
"Pajama" is a good one.
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46a17c No.25940
>>25916
>Not true. They're both Indo-European, and you can tell.
True enough, but they're still quite disparate languages within that Indo-European umbrella, and that's what I was referencing. French, Spanish and Italian are far closer to on another than Latin and Brittonic/Anglo-Saxon German.
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e5ac21 No.25947
>>25940
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say than modern english in an unholy fusion of different languages from the different ethnic groups that have invaded the island over the years?
Modern english has a LOT of influence from the normans, who spoke french.
Like most European languages, latin or no, it is also heavily influenced from having latin neighbours for around 2000 years and latin having been the language of the church there for large chunk of that time.
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46a17c No.25951
>>25947
>Wouldn't it be more accurate to say than modern english in an unholy fusion of different languages from the different ethnic groups that have invaded the island over the years?
Yes.
>Like most European languages, latin or no, it is also heavily influenced from having latin neighbours for around 2000 years and latin having been the language of the church there for large chunk of that time.
Although funnily enough, while Rome and the church did have an effect on Britbong culture, almost none of the Latin in English came directly from the Romans. Barring some additions in modern times, the Latin roots in English came from Norman French.
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05fd7e No.25970
>>24970
>Once Upon a Time
>2/10
The episode might be silly AF, but Naomi is best loli, you goof. _ _ _ Kill yourself _ _ _ _ _
>>25858
>https://www62.zippyshare.com/v/1QUf6IBt/file.html
>You have requested the file:
>Name: 02x02 18:34.webm
>Size: 38.37 MB
Max filesize is 16 MB.
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c5ea33 No.27208
OP HERE.
So I have a lot of reports to give however first of I need to get some advice form you guys.
You see while creating my project and getting familiar with datatables I learned actual SQL (Real database programing language for real databases).
And I’m itching to get my SQL knowledge used in some project.
I have SQL hunger so to say.
The only problem is that by making my records in SQL I would lose some of the advantages that I have in datatables while gaining other benefits.
For example I would lose the ability to insert images into a table the variant of SQL I’m using is not permitting me to use image in itself.
Another thing I would lose is hover to see text.
So no spoiler text an no yellow note summery.
So I have 3 choices
1) Start using SQL databases
2) Don’t use SQL databases and use datatables
3) Merge together datatables and SQL
You see I have heard of a possibility to use datatables to access a SQL database to display in datatables.
Should I try to use option 3 ?
I can think of a way to simply insert HTML into the fields of a the SQL database and then have datatables use this text in itself thereby gaining the full functionality of datatables and SQL best of both worlds with no downsides.
What do you think guys?
The watching DS9 project was something to test my skills and I will not abandon it.
I wanted to watch DS9 from start to finish and I will finish it.
I don’t think that I will switch to a SQL database the datatable has to much data in it already.
So I will finish the listing(of DS9) with datatables only.
However I’m so hungry to use SQL.
I’m already thinking of ways how to use SQL in my day to day life.
And hobby projects like creating a listing (this is what I’m calling what I’m doing retroactively) for a TV show like DS9 is a great way to test the waters if I fuck up I have a semi functional listing and its OK.
However if I fuck up with creating something serious that I will use for my personal life then I will be angry beyond help for painting myself into a corner.
For example the DS9 project revealed that do to its nature DS9 simply bloats with more and more tags for episodes.
Plot fragments are scattered unlike other trek there is no simple
“Time traverse episode”
“The holodeck is crazy episode”
“Afterlife episode”
This resulted in shit loads of tags even now I fantasize and see how I could have made the whole thing. Separate tables for every tag and joining them together with a episode index table on a primary list table.
This way I can produce table with only the tags I’m currently interested in or change the order of columns to my wish.
I’m simply so excited to try this in SQL.
What do you think guys?
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519cae No.27212
>>27208
I think you're a special kind of autist and I love you.
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6995c9 No.27214
>>27208
>> Separate tables for every tag
What? Wouldn't it be easier to have one "Tags" table with each tag being an entry. With a primary key it would be easy to add them to the episode review.
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c5ea33 No.27217
>>27214
I suggest you learn about relational databases this book is good, no seriously give it a look(yes even I was skeptical about it "The Manga Guide to Databases").
https://github.com/wuzhouhui/misc/blob/master/programming/db/The%20Manga%20Guide%20to%20Databases.pdf
This process is named database normalization.
>Wouldn't it be easier to
1) This is a hobby project and I'm itching to test out these ideas.
Once more its a semi useful test if I fuck myself over its learning experience and I made something semi usable. This is practice for the real world.
2) I want to experiment with joins and multiple tables and SQL stuff on things that are important and not stupid test examples
3) Ignoring the SQLite (my flavor of SQL that I use) has a HARD limit of Maximum Number Of Columns = 2000.
https://www.sqlite.org/limits.html
>The default setting for SQLITE_MAX_COLUMN is 2000. You can change it at compile time to values as large as 32767. On the other hand, many experienced database designers will argue that a well-normalized database will never need more than 100 columns in a table.
The documentation itself says:
> On the other hand, many experienced database designers will argue that a well-normalized database will never need more than 100 columns in a table.
>well-normalized database will never need more than 100 columns in a table.
>"Tags"
I think I need to clarify this. I have difficulties naming the things(I used to talk about my listing as a database etc) I'm doing the best idea to get a overview is to see
>>24954
>>24956
I'm basically having columns and if for example the episode has the holodeck in it or the transporter(accidents etc) there will be a entry in this column.
The problem with this is that I can not filter columns I want or change their order in datatables I can do this in SQL however the experts talk about normalizations so why not normalize my database? Win win.
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c5ea33 No.27218
>>27212
Thanks.
I think I create a meta thread about myself and how Star Trek influenced my personality and massively contributed to who I am today.
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6ee6d7 No.27326
>>24807
>I love the Ferengi episodes.
If it wasn't for Rom, I would too.
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f40c06 No.27327
>>27326
Rom was tolerable around the middle of the show, when he was the talented but autistic engineer that acted as Quark's hapless accomplice. It was only later that he turned into the writer's mouthpiece for the leftist agenda.
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db98ea No.33520
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db98ea No.33521
>>27212
Like the person who created the Linux GUI that looks like TNG computer interface, these are truly great men.
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1466cb No.33522
>>27327
Well how would you fix this? I guess the most ferengi way is that there is always a tension between legal activity and illegal activity. So occassionally you get faggot nagus's and everyone basically goes yeah that's great and nothing changes outside of what's in the capital city until the blackmarkets align behind someone dealing in sizable chunks of money who basically makes them the 'darknegus'. Then things conspire (or maybe the darknegus just buys the position?. I kind of like the idea that yeah occasionally ferenginar goes thru periods of 'otherworld mania' until the greed takes over again.
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566a2c No.33596
>>33522
I wouldn't. They needed Rom to keep Quark as a pure likable character.
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