/strek/ - Star Trek

This is a shit thread, and you should feel like shit for making us suffer through it.

>>20469

Then why did you even respond?

>>20470

Because evidently you are unaware of how much of a frustrated chore your existence is to those around you otherwise you'd not have posted to begin with.

>>20468

I watched Discovery because I wanted more Star Trek and I have already watched every other series (yes including TAS) and all movies, and most fan films.

It's OK, and more or less fulfills the need for more Star Trek, I've also watched The Orville, Galaxy Quest, Babylon 5, and that one episode of Black Mirror.

The craving is real. I think I'll start getting into the comics now, they seems to have plenty of content to offer. Anyway $5.99 isn't that much, and I guarantee I'm poorer than you. It's worth mentioning that CBS owns all Star Trek, so if you only use Netflix to watch Trek you might actually save money by just watching TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY on CBS all access…..and then there's always MASH.

just watch the rlm reviews of it and decide for yourself.

>>20468

A thread died so you could post this. Anyway, if you have to watch it then pirate it or use netflix. It's shit though, so don't.

>>20473

Anon, mate, buddy, pal, I know this is a hell of a place and among hell of company to be saying this but you need a hobby. Take up hiking or swimming or something because that sounds like a worrying obsession you've developed there.

>>20479

>using RLM's opinion

>for anything

They're trash, anon. The same kind of "le quirky geek xD" """""fans""""" that are ruining sci-fi everywhere.

>>20473

Buddy, you sound like you're suffering from battered wife syndrome. Like >>20484 said find something else to do with your time. If nothing else, find another sci-fi universe to dive into as well. If vast amounts of content is what tickles your autism, the Star Wars EU has enough content that you'll never have to touch the disney shit.

>Is Discovery really worth it?

>I'm trying to decide to spend the cash

I bought it on CD, the original version. But here have a listen yourself and decide,

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=ecv1AbcHvbM

music aside I like how they approach the business side of things and how they understand most of the money really comes from live shows concerts and fans doing remixes can help promote your stuff. Though I'm biased in the sense that I think the best remixes of Daft Punk tends to come from Daft Punk themselves.

IMO the original version is not bad, it's certainly got it's share of catchy songs. But it really works best as a base to launch related things such as Interstella555,

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=bRt5z880CFY

or contribute to other projects for example their GOAT remix magnum opusAlive 2007.

Oh did you mean STD? Why the fuck would you waste money on AIDS like that.

>>20473

>The craving is real. I think I'll start getting into the comics now, they seems to have plenty of content to offer.

Ok shitposting aside. Here's a free advice that you can take or leave. Seriously listen to >>20484 and >>20485. Writing your own fanfic at this point is better than STD.

>Anyway $5.99 isn't that much, and I guarantee I'm poorer than you.

I guarantee you thinking like that will keep you poorer for longer than you need to be.

In short, no.

Though it is kind of fascinating to pick apart and analyse exactly why it fails. Maybe watch it if that's your thing.

>>20470

We have one very autistic poster who loses his shit every time someone brings up this show, even to criticise it. Ignore him.

>>20484

>hiking

That made me laugh. Do you know where I live? There's literally no worse place for hiking in the civilized world. Even some places that are full of landmines at least offer better sights.

I know how to swim but going to the gym makes me anxious. A friend of mine has invited me to Warhammer with his friends, I'm looking into this.

>>20468

Are you the kind of man that enjoys gouging his own eyeballs out with sandpaper? If the answer is yes then go ahead.

I just got done watching two of the mirror universe episodes they killed off the faggot doctor in one episode and then decided they would try to kill of his husbando as well. Now all of sudden the other guy is actually a Klingon. This series is totally nuts. if you watch it be prepared to scratch your head in wonder as to where the fuck they are going with this shit.

>>20525

The fact that Tyler was a surgically altered Klingon was one of the better decisions to make it interesting. Spoiler the worst part is that they kill the Klingon in him off and he becomes like a complete regular again instead of giving his character more dimensions

Michael Burnham is a character that you can't wrap your head arround, on one hand she's a Vulcanboo and on the other hand she's this super emotional drama queen that wants everything to evolve arround her. Don't like her characterization, the only thing she's having for her is the fact that she's good looking. Lorca worked as a character but guess what they kill him off. So yeah, STD is a bit all over the place, and feels like they tried to cram in as many shit as possible in the first season to break the Star Trek rule of having a boring first season (which you can't allow yourself to have in 2018), but everything is chaotic and incoherent.

Mirror Universe isn't worth to span over so many episodes. It's such a comical over-the-top world that works well for one episode, not for more. MU episodes are also the worst in DS9 because they also try to make it a storyline, whereas we never got a TNG one which would have probably been cool.

>>20525

I still don't know if he was actually a Klingon or not. They establish that he was a Klingon who underwent surgery to look human, but then everyone acts like the fake human persona is the real him. I don't get it. Just seems like they didn't understand what they were writing.

>>20527

>the only thing she's having for her is the fact that she's good looking

In other words, she's got nothing.

>Another STD thread

F U C K Y O U

>>20528

I THINK they managed to capture the real Ash Tyler and then Voq was surgically made into him and they errr, switched brains or synapses or something? I guess? To make sure a mandatory medical check-up wouldn't catch the fact that there was something wrong with his brain (and really everything). It makes no sense and an easier way of doing this switcheroo would've been to just plant a false memory since the events of the show proved the switchup was a hack job anyway and have some implant that confused the medical equipment into telling your brain is a-okay.

>>20468

What a dumb thread. Of course we're all great fans of DIS here, and watched every thrilling episode on our paid CBS Access subscriptions. Go finish watching before you come back, or you might see spoilers!

>>20538

I'll grudgingly admit that she looks slightly better when not in STD's pisspoor lighting and without that retarded afro haircut. But she's still ugly as sin, and no I wouldn't.

oh god i just finished episode 15. This whole damn series is nothing but a feminist Star Trek fan wank.

>>20549

no i saw it by about episode 10. I just didn't have the words until now.

>>20551

to be honest i just thought it was a lot of pro-SJW, anti-trump shit. But the writers really went out of their way to fuck up the timeline. I am willing to bet that Star Trek fans will discard Discovery completely from the timeline.

>>20548

>This whole damn series is nothing but a feminist Star Trek fan wank.

If you think that's bad, don't watch the latest Star Wars movie.

>>20472

Imagine living with that insane, shrill harpy. Jesus christ. That bear could have done the world a favour ripping out her vocal chords.

>>20554

They know this wont make girls watch Star Trek, right? Do they think it will? Do they even give a shit if they get their virtue signal points?

Data, Data makes girls watch Star Trek

>>20578

>Like that dumb bitch from the newest Jurassic Park movie

An uptight workaholic mother, who pulls her shit together when her kids are in danger. There was nothing wrong with that character. She was more likable and believable than the generic tuff gurl fantasy that we see everywhere. I guess it would have been better if she was karate kicking dinosaurs in the face like a Milla Jovovich character.

>>20580

>An uptight workaholic mother, who pulls her shit together when her kids are in danger

You are kidding me, right? She was a naive, incompetent mess who needed a manly man who literally bikes with raptors to show her how things work in the real world, and that her purpose is not to mess things up at the job but to just get married and get kids. This movie was more sexist than fucking TOS, and TOS was from the 60s.

>I guess it would have been better if she was karate kicking dinosaurs in the face like a Milla Jovovich character

Nowhere have I suggested that, in fact I made the same criticism in my very first post. Cersei isn't kicking people in the face, do you think Cersei is a weak woman?

>>20580

Literally none of the characters from Jurassic World are OK.

Except for the Asian scientist, and since he was from the original Jurassic Park he doesn't count. JP was a mediocre series tht has degenerated into utter shit.

>>20584

The problem with JP is that once you introduced all the dinosaurs, which the first movie did, there really isn't much what you can add to that. There is only a limited amount of ways dinosaurs can maul and mutilate people before things become repetitve, That's why the shitty reboots needed genetically altered Superdinosaurs like in JW (which still kinda lost to a regular T-Rex) or a raptor saying "Alan!". With space, you never run out of possibilities to throw new aliens at the protagonists.

>>20584

>>20587

By the way, has anybody seen this? http://foundfootagecritic.com/extinction-jurassic-predators-2014/review/

I thought a dinosaur movie as found footage is an interesting refreshing take on the genre. I could be wrong though.

Sage for doublepost.

>>20582

>She was a naive, incompetent mess who needed a manly man

She was a realistic woman, yes.

>>20592

Well, according to that logic you must like Michael Burnham's character because she displays the exact same traits with the only difference that she does fights.

>>20593

Well yeah. Being unrealistically competent in combat is a big part of what makes me hate a female character. If it weren't for that, and if the show acknowledged any of her flaws as being real flaws, I might not hate her.

>>20601

> If it weren't for that, and if the show acknowledged any of her flaws as being real flaws, I might not hate her.

But what else is there to hate or not hate? That's Micky's entire personality, she may as well be a wooden board wearing a sign that says, "call me the smartest person on board."

>>20601

I am even bothered by human males beating Klingons up so easily since TNG, aren't Klingons supposed have greater muscle mass and density? For that, they are always going down pretty meager in hand-to-hand combat, especially considering that their entire fucking culture revolves arround the way of the warrior, while the Federation culture revolves arround exploration and science.

And then having a relatively skinny human female defeating a fucking Klingon warlord twice in STD is beyond ridiculous. At least in Game of Thrones, you got Brienne of Tarth being an ugly-ass monster - this was before GRRM couldn't keep it in his pants and came up with the fucking sand snakes.

>>20604

I am having a hard time getting even remotely involved in her personal drama all the time. I mean, having your parents being killed, despite being such an overused trope, is understandable, that's fucked up. But the rest? She beats herself up over starting the war, when in fact, she clearly didn't or at least had little influence over it since it was on T'Kuma's agenda anyway. She is an absolute autist when it comes to dating or making friends, but what is all this wallowing in self-pity? Why would you even want to be friends or date a person who is so self-absorbed? She's being presented as a person everybody wants to fuck and befriend, and the only obstacle is just her not being able to open up. Especially since Tyler, who is the ship's chad, is being presented to her like on a fucking silver plate, by her ginger friend who is also and autist when it comes to dating. Have you ever seen girls acting like this when an attractive desired man is involved, especially when they are both incels?

It just feels like Michael is in a holodeck program where everybody is just there to please her, fuck her or want to be friends with her.

>>20605

Oh, and don't even get me started on the fact that she is mad at Sarek that he favored Spock over Michael in regards to the place at the academy. Are you fucking kidding? Did it ever occur to this entitled self-absorbed brat that not the entire world, or in this case, Vulcan, is not revolving arround her? Of course he is going to favor his biological son over his adopted child that he only adopted out of pity after her parents were killed. She would do the same without a second guess.

>>20605

The whole raised by Vulcans thing is really dumb too. Were the Vulcans and humans not in close contact by that point? Couldn't the Vulcans just call someone up and say "hey, we've got one of your kids, come and pick her up"? The whole thing paints Sarek in a slightly sinister light. Like he chose to hold onto this human child to study her like a lab animal. That's something the Romulans or the Cardassians should be doing.

>>20608

Considering I find it very unlikely that there would be zero relatives of Michael still alive, what Sarek did was basically abduction of a orphaned victim of a war crime. Also child abuse if you think that all this surpress-emotion shit is basically violating parental responsibility.

>>20608

Romulans and Cardassians would put her in a zoo to be honest.

>>20608

>a random Russian/Ukrainian/Belarussian couple raise Worf, a Klingon who lost his parents after a confrontation with the Romulans

>he turns out a bit of a sperg Klingonboo, but is still mentally sound and can handle himself in social situations

>Sarek, a highly respected Vulcan Ambassador and his human wife Amanda raise Michael, a human who lost her parents after an attack

>she turns out a massive anti-social sperg who can't decide if she wants to be super serious like a Vulcan or more open like a human so she's mentally a fucking mess moreso than her step-brother Spock who never had intentional spergouts even tho he was mixed-species

what did they mean by this? What are they trying to say about Sarek (and Amanda)?

>>20671

That even they can't train chimps?

>>20663

The Cardassians definitely would, the Romulans would probably attempt some sort of Manchurian Candidate ploy like the did with the clone of Picard.

>>20587

Also for whatever reason the Jurassic movies like to ignore the fact that guns are really good at killing; this is true even if your prey is a giant prehistoric maneater.

Somebody always conveniently drops their rifle, runs out of ammo at the wrong time, or gets mauled before firing the shotgun. In reality the giant monsters would all get sniped, and pose no problems whatsoever, other than cleaning up their big carcasses.

>>20609

It's also weird when you remember that Sarak seems to like giving human woman his little green hobgoblin.

>>20680

Does the Vulcan glans have a greenish hue?

>>20678

I don't know if this is the case, I've seen real life people shooting at a bear, and unless you don't hit them in their brain or another vital spot they are still going to come at you because of their thick fat tissue under their skin. So I'd assume it takes a few shots to bring down a massive dinosaur, which is twenty times bigger than a bear, unless you hit them in a vital spot.

I agree with you that the Jurassic Park security is a fucking joke, especially for a guy who said that he "spared not expenses" about twenty times.

>>20680

maybe he simply thought his wife would be happier with a human child around instead of having to deal with his weird little half breed goblin

>>20473

The newer comics under IDW aren't that great imo I like the older DC and Marvel Trek comics. I always look for them in back issues.

>>20696

you joke, but I've heard this excuse being made. The thing is tho, Amanda was a massive Vulcanboo. Yeah, she wants Spock to not be ashamed of his human heritage, but she still praised the Vulcan way of life and even said it was in some ways better than the human way. Amanda only wanted that green dick and the half-breed goblin babies said dick would give her, not some human nigger Sarek randomly found under some rubble.

Thinking about Michael just makes me more and more annoyed. I don't understand how anyone can look at her character and say she isn't a Mary Sue (in a fandom that created the concept as well!) and I don't even like to throw the accusation around lightly.

>>20538

>Yeah, as if you wouldn't fuck the living shit out of this woman.

There are better looking women at my work and the women at my workplace don't pancake on the makeup either.

>Get real.

Bitch you get real, I work with a lot of pajeets and literal africans right out of fucking africa. And that actress would be a 6 at most who thinks she's a 9 .

>>20676

Probably other way round

>>20608

>The whole raised by Vulcans thing is really dumb too.

I agree. It's wrong on many levels. Vulcans would never accept a human in their academy, not at the time anyways. She even finished first of her promotion.

I really hate that she's raised by Sarek and his wife. It's a bad retcon that gives an impression that Sarek prefers Michael over his own biological child.

>>20468

Why not take the third option of watching the show without spending the cash on CBS?

Also it is utter trash but you have to watch it so you have the right to trash it.

>>20757

>so that guy was the albino Klingon all along? Was it always the one actor?

Yes and yes. The sad part is that they also fucked up the klingon language. I thought that the Klingon make-up and prosthetics made the actors speak like retards but nope. Even in "human form" the guy speaks klingon in a weird way like if he has a hot potato in his mouth.

>>20606

>Oh, and don't even get me started on the fact that she is mad at Sarek that he favored Spock over Michael in regards to the place at the academy.

That makes sense to me, but I have a roommate that is exactly like her in this regard. I thought it was interesting when he told me about his issue with this because if I were in his place I feel like I would just naturally assume that the biological son was preferred, and just be happy to be adopted, but I guess he see things differently?

>>20773

People are entitled cunts and this is why you should never adopt, except maybe children of close relatives if you really have to. Or your best adult friends if political reasons for it arise.

>>20757

I think it backfired, because I find Tilly more endearing and attractive.

>>20826

>people

Well, mostly niggers feel entitled to everything

>>20850

You aren't changing my mind with those images.

>>20857

tart*

English is my third language, sorry.

>>20856

Some men love whales.

>>20857

She's not even that attractive for a black woman. And she just seems like she has the personality of a plank of wood.

>>20857

Her hair looks like a wire brush fresh from scraping out the ovens. The only positive thing I can say about her features is that the fat lips and flattened nose most blacks possess are barely present. So there's not much detracting from her appearance, sure, but there's nothing to enhance it either. And regardless of beauty, she's a lefty, and a hard-line lefty at that, not the well-meaning but ignorant type which you can fuck the stupid out of.

>>20905

Maybe that is how they cured autism? Sending them all to Vulcan?

>>20906

>Micky's parents aren't actually dead

>when their daughter started showing signs sociopathy and turbo-autism (including calling herself Michael instead of Michelle), they moved to another colony and faked their deaths and/or implanted false memories of the attack into Micky's skull

>hand her off to Vulcan like they do with all the other autists for Mentat training

>Micky is too autistic even for Vulcans so they hand her off to Sarek, the resident humanboo

>Sarek becomes curious about human pride so he decides to run a little experiment

>tells Vulcan Science Academy to pretend to accept her over Spock just to see what happens

>the entire time she's in the Academy Sarek and some Academy are feverishly working on a project

>it's an immersive simulation program

>the technology will eventually be adapted to create the first holodecks decades later, but for now it's electrodes/nerve stimulation only, and only this one very specific program

>somewhere between her fake studies in the Academy and getting into Starfleet Micky is transferred to this simulation

>all of STD takes place in the simulation

>the footage is edited and preserved to explain to future generations the importance of the only eugenics law on the Federation books: REMOVE AUTIST

>>20907

<Sarek and some Academy

Sarek and some Academy faculty he convinced to go along with this*

>>20582

>sexist

<realistic

Lmftfy

>>20914

You can portray incompetent and hysterical woman without being sexist.

>>20857

Counterpoint: Tilly could stop earring the donuts.

Nothing the other one can do to fix her genes.

>>20964

>eating

>>21215

>These people have no idea of what is Star Trek.

What was your first clue?

>>21215

>Season two will show how Discovery fits into Prime Timeline

why didn't they do this from the start?

>Season two will have more ‘Trekian’ tone

why didn't they do this from the start?

>USS Enterprise design evolved and grew to match Discovery universe

why didn't you make the Discovery ships fit into the TOS-era design (hell, the movie look would've been perfectly acceptable)?

>New uniforms hinted at (possibly for the USS Enterprise crew)

why did you give them shitty uniforms from the start if you're just going to "evolve" them to look more like what they did during The Cage era (not that they remember anything about the Cage besides it having Spock and some captain named Pike)?

>More about Saru in season two

*Michael

>More about the Klingons

jesus, stop it with the Kligons, we fucking know everything there is to know about them. There are more species in Trek, ya know.

>new gay couple, this time it's 2 dykes.

I'll bet ya everything they're gonna shill articles about how this is so inclusive and progressive for Trek and completely avoid mentioning DS9.

>>21216

What pisses me off the most is that they really don't care about the lore and that universe. Instead of listening to the criticisms they prefer to double down on that shit.

Like >>21220 said, who the fuck cares about the [current stardate] Klingons? What is there to say about them?

>>20929

Sexism is just acknowledging that women don't have all of men's best qualities and more, these days.

Sexism is showing a woman to have any weakness or human vulnerability whatsoever.

>>21228

the more they do this, the more men irl will hate and distrust women.

>>21239

I think that's their plan. Same thing with drawing attention to race. It's to make it an issue when it really wasn't an issue before

>>21244

With unchecked immigration, race will always become an issue eventually. They are exacerbating things though.

>>21244

I liked how Sisko and Janeway were introduced without making it an issue about race and gender, and in Cons you can clearly the see the actors being annoying at this question every single time when they ask "how it felt" to be the "first black/female captain".

At least the chink captain from STD probably wasn't cast for oppression points, but because they wanted to pander to the huge Asian market.

>>21304

>THIS WEEK ON CHINK TREK!

>Space Tibet finally put down!

>Federation gains rightful sovereignty over the China Zone

>1001 recipes for space dogs!

>>21304

>but because they wanted to pander to the huge Asian market.

The more (((they))) try to push and pander the more I want the Eugenic wars to come true.

>>21371

I'd watch it, honestly.

>>21371

Recipe #47 space dog goulash "you are goig to laika this stew!"

>>21432

Pottery

>>20492

I see no problem with this. Nothing about STD needed to happen.

>>20690

While the brain of a trex is large compared to other dinosaurs, it is still a small target for a rifleman to hit especially in a high stress situation- the lungs and heart would make fairly decent targets. A .44 magnum would probably do the trick at close range- it would still have enough juice to kill you before it died most likely.

Now- at range a shooter with a 338 lapua mag or if you want to be extra cool a 50 bmg would be a good choice for a heart and lung shot- or even a CAN hit. With good optics and position a shot in the brain case through the sinuses could be achieved with relative ease. For close range work I would recommend a 50 bmg vehicle mounted weapon

>>21456

This tbh. Faggots want to talk about this shitty show outside their containment thread.

>>21456

It's more fun to pick it apart, then to give it the silent treatment.

>>21524

>30% of traffic is talking about the new show we hate

>another 20% is "stop talking about it you're just giving them attention"

:(

>>21526

I thought talking about things we hated was the point of imageboards.

>>21576

>Hate. Let me tell you how much I've come to hate you since I began to live. There are 387.44 million miles of printed circuits in wafer thin layers that fill my complex. If the word 'hate' was engraved on each nanoangstrom of those hundreds of millions of miles it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate I feel for humans at this micro-instant. For you. Hate. Hate.

>>20929

Yeah, as long as they are white

>>21215

>Middle Top

Is that Jim?

>>21849

Now, looking at it apart from the mess that is STD, that dude looks like a fine choice. Pike was a handsome motherfucker, can't go with anyone lesser. That said, I wonder how much they'll have nuPike around. I have little hope of the showrunners coming around and making it less the "Michael Sue show", but I'm also annoyed at potentially getting nuSpock and nuNumber One.

>>21849

He was really good in Hell on Wheels so it's a shame his career has gone nowhere to the point of desperation that he accepted this gig.

>>21849

He's going to get killed off by a "STRONK PROUD WUMAN OF COLOR!"

>>21904

I wonder who is going to play Number One. I know people are waiting for the Spock reveal but I bet we won't see him on that show, the current people in charge would rather have Majel Barrett's character and push her to be the Discovery's captain.

>>21990

>Comedian joins STD

I don't get it, is she joining the joke or becoming the joke?

>>22197

Imagine the engineer on Ciscovery being a Joss Whedon snarky faggot.

>>22204

I bet they're going to make her the chief engineer of the nuEnterprise.

>>22214

They will replace the entire crew of the NuPrise with women with token gay guys.

>>21990

>look her up

>she’s a lesbian who had both her tits removed due to cancer

>louis ck loves her

She has as much to recommend her to the audience of Star Trek as instructions on how to pee standing up with a vagina.

Why can’t all these weirdos just die /strek/? Why can’t we just have normal people like we did in the 80s? Attractive women, noble men. Why must we have demented and strange?

>>22451

>louis ck loves her

I know I'll regret risking a derail into /tv/ crap, but does that ginger mexifag love her, or loves her? You know what never mind fuck it STD is superAIDS anyway.

>Why must we have demented and strange?

I think you know the answer to that already.

enlarged nose with hands rabbi- rubbing together intensifies + the future is female you shitlord.jpg

>>22471

>It really will be interesting to see how second seasons of both shows pan out.

Orville, sure. But even in a watch-the-trainwreck sort of way I can't get interested in STD, because I already know most of what's going to happen. There's going to be more stronk womyns, more fags, a scene(s) where Mickie proves herself superior to Spock, and more canon rape, only this time it will involve Pike and the Enterprise in addition to the Klangs and everything else that's transpired.

>>22451

It's not a Star Trek show, it's not even a fanfiction because it would require the writing staff to be Trek fans and science fiction enthousiasts. It's a show made for social engineering. One of the first things they said was that they'll add a lesbian couple for the second season.

>Why must we have demented and strange?

Because they want to be the new normal.

>>22472

>a scene(s) where Mickie proves herself superior to Spock

TBH I can't wait for that scene where Spock says that Michael was always the smartest and the strongest one.

I still can't believe that they wrote her to be the best student of the Vulcan academy. No one thought that it was too much.

>Is Discovery really worth it?

It has received nothing but negative reviews, how the hell can you even ask this question.

>>22472

>more canon rape

didn't a few members of the production crew accidentally admit awhile back that for legal reasons the show is technically non-canon? It's apparently it's own weird timeline.

>>22522

There is some truth in it and a lot of bullshit too.

The production designer and the VFX guy said that they had to modify the design of the Enterprise for legal reasons, it turned out to be bullshit. They had to change the size of the Enterprise because they made the Discovery too big.

>>22204

>people complained season 1 was too dark and edgy

<add more Joss Whedon clips like Justice League

Oh good.

>>22530

Got a detailed list of what's bullshit and what's not?

>>23102

That looks like a mid budget fan film at best, you know scratch that, there are fan films that looks more interesting than STD. I can't put my finger on it but something about the whole thing looks very cheap in all the meaning of the word.

>>23102

I fucking hate that they make it revolve arround a single character so much. That was never the essence of Star Trek, all this personally identity crisis bullshit.

>>23107

I don't think they ever got Trek to begin with. They see the whole concept of Star Trek as an excuse to glorify their shitty ideology and deify a black woman as the best thing to ever happen to the series. It's almost bizarrely narcissist when you get down to it.

>>23108

>I don't think they ever got Trek to begin with.

…and I don't think they ever wanted to be Trek. They only wanted the name because it's a well established brand.

>>23107

I agree. Star Trek is about a group of people. There's no "discovery" or character development in STD when one character is the center of the attention while the whole crew spend the entire season praising her.

>>20468

Fuck that, discovery is what happens when you let netbabies decide the modern version of a timeless saga.

>>20538

Hard to tell she's a woman from that picture.

>>20578

>never met a girl

You can stop there anon if you want to be honest.

Just yankin

>>21371

Let's be blunt. Full blown Mao-Trek (as written by the Chinese Communist Party) would be a better show than STD. At the very least I can see that being an unintentional lulz-fest.

>>23417

Sadly the majority of Trekmovie comments are made by sjws. I used to like the website when it was all about infos and rumors on the movies (Roberto Orci used to leave comments, answer questions etc.), now they have opinion pieces, reviews and other shit where they can push their ideology. Like I said in another post, if you don't preface your negative opinion on STD with "I love diversity" then they rush to label you a "bigot", "white supremacist" and "Drumpf supporter".

>>23408

>woke

What the fuck is that? I mean really what does it meme?

>>23430

Nuspeak. It's the opposite of what it says, "woke"=go back to being an ignorant unaware goylem\angry chimp enslaved to muh feelies and orgyporgy.

>>23418

This is the only valid Trek site on the entire internet. Everywhere else is just hipsters trying to pretend they are into Trek.

>>24172

I know and I hate that. They used to make great content. I remember when they interviewed Ronald D. Moore a few years after BSG to talk about his time on TNG and DS9.

>>20468

Don't waste your money. It's a future where Tumblr's SJW cucks take over.

>>24575

>An animated series whose plot details are being kept under wraps.

What are the chances it's going to use that shit adventure time gumball lesbian crystals nu Calarts style.

>>24575

>Starfleet Academy with CW producers

No thanks.

>>24575

You forgot the best part.

>With the success of Star Trek: Discovery on CBS's All Access, and that nasty business with its showrunner getting ousted for sexual misconduct.

That's another Showrunner out, Alex is taking over from Arron Harberts who got outed and he replaced Bryan Fuller after he was fired.

>>24575

They always double down. Every. Fucking. Time.

>>24578

Make it so!

>>24581

>You forgot the best part.

True and apparently they want Patrick Stewart on one of their new shows.

>>24580

For some weird reason they keep hiring people who have no interest in the science fiction genre. None of the STD writers have a background in science fiction except Menosky who left during the first season to work on The Orville.

>>24583

Patrick Stewart won't have time since he's appearing on The Orville

I was watching Captain April's latest video and apparently among the many heated conversation in the STD writing room, there was a writer who said "what the fuck is Deep Space Nine?".

>>24833

Wouldn't surprise me if true, but I have no idea who your e-celeb is or whether he's trustworthy.

>>24833

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/flashback/most-infamous-story-from-writers-room-shows-roseanne-could-be-an-insane-place-to-work/news-story/9fb062c916f574396c6e9dc1abacb48a

> But disruption and discontent is not new to the world of Roseanne. The show’s original nine-season run was filled with truly bizarre behind the scenes stories, leaked by frustrated writers and crew.

> Known in shorthand as “Who Jackie,” it’s a story that demonstrates just how chaotic life could be for those working on the show.

> As Macdonald tells it, one such hire was a mysterious man named David who was clearly out of his depth in the writing room and so stayed largely silent as the rest of the writers workshopped ideas and hashed out jokes each day.

> Until one day, David spoke up with a story idea, much to the surprise of everyone else in the room.

> “What if Dan came home and found Roseanne washing her big ass in the sink. But the thing is, it ain’t Roseanne, it’s Roseanne’s twin sister!” Macdonald recalled him as saying.

> As the story goes, the bizarre idea hung in the air for a few seconds until one of the other writers tried to let David down gently: Sounds funny, they told him, but … Roseanne already has a sister, Jackie.

> And then, from David, two words that would live on in infamy:

> “WHO JACKIE?”

It's a hollywood meme…

>>20856

Fucking hell, they actually let people who can't pass a fucking physical on board a ship in the middle of a damn war. Every time I look into STD I find something that pisses me off about it even more.

>>21215

>Season two will show how Discovery fits into Prime Timeline

That's easy, it fucking doesn't.

>USS Enterprise design evolved and grew to match Discovery universe

From the screencaps I saw looks like it evolved in a test tube in Dr. Moreau's lab.

>More about Saru in season two

Don't care.

>More about the Klingons

Really don't care.

>new gay couple, this time it's 2 dykes

"Yeah maybe having two guys shove their junk in each others asses didn't work, let's pretend it's the late 90s and go HLA but without anyone that actually looks 'hot' because current year+???"

>>21371

That actually at least sounds entertaining.

>>24575

More Khan too! Can't just fucking leave it well enough alone.

>>24973

On the bright side this shit is still over a year away (late 2019) so there's plenty of time for Orville to keep cucking whatever skeleton crew remains on STD's production staff.

How likely is it that STD will have a Season 3? Season 1 was a flop, and while these lefty types tend to keep virtue-signalling long after it's stopped being profitable, they can only go so long before running completely out of money.

>>24974

I dunno. I'd say it'd 86 sooner or later but it seems Hollywood cares more about stroking off about how wonderful it is that they are a bunch of unimaginative creeps rather than put out any compelling content that makes money. As far as CBS there's no way they are going to get people to keep coming back to their crap online service, especially when that sector is heating up. If Disney/Fox goes through does anyone really imagine someone's going to stick around on All Access for a beyond crap reboot with nothing else going for them, or give the Mouse cash for Captain America 39 - and "24" reruns - instead?

>>24977

The thing is it's a failed ad campaign. CBS has been conspicuously silent on the success of All Access; they praise it as a success, but never release any numbers to illustrate this success, just vague statements about it "exceeding expectations," or that the numbers are "promising." And how long do you run an ad campaign that isn't doing its job?

>>24973

>"Yeah maybe having two guys shove their junk in each others asses didn't work, let's pretend it's the late 90s and go HLA but without anyone that actually looks 'hot' because current year+???"

They've hired Tig-something (the chick who looks like a dude), I bet she's going to be the engineer of the nuEnterprise and she will fuck Number 1.

>>24977

To me, STD got a second season for the only reason that it's the flagship of All-Access (they wanted a big IP to launch it) and it would've sent a wrong message if they had cancelled it during the first season. Based on the rumors about Netflix having refused to pay for season 2, I bet that the budget took a hit too so I doubt the show will have a third season.

>>24985

>They've hired Tig-something (the chick who looks like a dude), I bet she's going to be the engineer of the nuEnterprise and she will fuck Number 1

Completely insane since the very first fucking Trek episode clearly indicated that she wanted to ride Pike's bone almost as bad as the ship's yeoman. So naturally you are probably entirely correct.

>>24985

>Based on the rumors about Netflix having refused to pay for season 2, I bet that the budget took a hit too so I doubt the show will have a third season.

Pretty hyped to see it get worse

>>24986

>she wanted to ride Pike's bone almost as bad as the ship's yeoman.

Pike is a huwite man, you can bet that they will put him in the background to destroy his character and the story will be all about Number 1 and how she saved him and took over the Ciscovery's captain seat, making her the First Female Captain (despite the gook from the first season or Hernandez from ENT).

Robert Duncan McNeill Explains Why He Won’t Be Directing ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Season 2

>McNeill talks about his experiences directing for Voyager and Enterprise, but he also explains why he won’t be directing for the latest Star Trek show, or at least for now.

>Wanted to direct Discovery, but series was seeking more diversity

>When asked if he would be interested in directing for Star Trek: Discovery, McNeill revealed he had a meeting with a producer from the show to talk about exactly that:

>I wanted to direct Discovery. I met with their producing director. I didn’t know the show that well, but I met with him on their last hiatus to talk about season two. I also produce now. So, I hire a lot of directors. The last few years, there’s been a seismic shift in terms of the priorities toward female and diverse directors. That reality now has meant that what used to be normal, which was a lot of white guys, to be quite honest, has changed. Some shows are mostly women directing. I think Jessica Jones, last year, had all female directors. Handmaid’s Tale. A woman may direct the next Star Trek movie. Most importantly, it’s a wonderful thing that’s happening. I’m proud that on other shows I’ve produced — The Gifted, The Arrangement, Girlfriends’ Guide to Divorce — I’ve brought in female directors. But, to answer your question, Discovery does a limited number of episodes and a priority there is to get female and diverse directors, so there are fewer opportunities for people like me, which is a great thing. But, yeah, if the opportunity arose to direct Discovery and I fit what they needed and it fit my schedule, I’d love to do it.

https://trekmovie.com/2018/07/09/robert-duncan-mcneill-explains-why-he-wont-be-directing-star-trek-discovery-season-2/

…and of course the people are celebrating it in the comments section.

>>25041

>Most importantly, it’s a wonderful thing that’s happening.

>there are fewer opportunities for people like me, which is a great thing.

AND THAT'S A GOOD THING

>>25042

Even in the comments section they're saying how great it is for him to get less job opportunities because of his skin color.

That said, I'm glad he's still working on The Orville.

>>25041

This sounds like a very diplomatic way (given the current state of Hollywood) of saying, "fuck no, I don't want credits on this trash, get some of Kathy Kennedy's rejects on this but leave me the hell out of it".

>>23235

y do i like this.

>>25165

Oh no, they've ruined STD!

>>25167

>Also "rock music in a Trek show" usually indicates extreme garbage is incoming

JJ's signature mark, insert 90's pop hits makes it kino

>trailer

Adonais, help us all

>>25165

Fugging hell it looks bad.

>>25165

How is this Star Trek?

>>25175

The funniest thing about STD is that they're making a spin off: 4 episodes of 15-20 minutes about the STD characters. Since the main show is about Mary Sue Burnham they had to create a spin off to allow 4 of her crewmates to get 15 minutes of character development.

>>25165

Wow. Fucking WOW.

How did they make it worse?!

>>25165

Wait, why would the enterprise crew spontaneously be wearing different uniforms than the rest of starfleet? Please just leave the awkward attempta to make the corny old TOS suits look serious and believable to the JJverse.

At least it kind of looks like crew members besides mikey and alien chicken man will have lines this season. But fuck, this entire season is going to be about systematically discrediting Pike at every turn while giving Mikey even more time to to prove herself and have the viewer forget she was literally in jail for life just months ago, until in the end when Pike has to leave, Chicken man is so wowed by the awesomeness of Wewuzvucalansnsheit that he'll remove himself from consideration for the captain's chair so that starfleet has to give it straight to Mikey.

unless one of them is about the chubby titcow ginger and the cyborg resting bitch face ginger making out, I don't really care.

>>25180

>Wait, why would the enterprise crew spontaneously be wearing different uniforms than the rest of starfleet? Please just leave the awkward attempta to make the corny old TOS suits look serious and believable to the JJverse.

Seriously? That's probably the only thing in the trailer that didn't rustle my jimmies.

>>25165

RESPECT WOHMAN

>>25186

I wish Memory Alpha wouldn't treat nu-Trek like it was canon.

>>25186

>I actually feel bad for all the fan sites and projects that are trying to be gud bois and reconcile STD and JJ Trek and bring them in-line with the originals.

It's star trek, they had already spent decades trying to reconcile terrible set, make up and deigns decisions that were only made for budget reasons with the rest of canon, Or make a canon explanations for why race X weren't in earlier shows besides that non one invented them yet.

>>25187

If they did, shill sites would go down on them instantly for muh Hitler like they do on commenters local to them that point out STD is a pile of shit.

>>25188

>The Cage

>using the first pilot to reference anything as canon

They used fucking clipboards ffs, and some guy under a desk sliding a printout somewhat erratically crooked out the Enterprise's bridge fax

>>25206

And STD's enterprise suits look like someone just took a can of spraypaint to the normal STD star-fleet suits. I'm not saying base the designs on the Cage for canon reasons, I'm saying do it because even those cheap ass messes look better than the outfit design they're actually using in STD

>>25165

I'm sensing an effort to make it "funnier". I think they misunderstood why people liked Orville more.

>>25206

This is the Pike era enterprise. The Cage uniforms fit better in the timeline, and clash less with the existing STD uniforms (no red, women wear pants). The only reason I could think they wouldn't use that as the base is they didn't actually know.

>>25217

>You could almost make sense of it as there being a change once between TOS and WoK and then again before TNG, but TMP completely throws a wrench into it.

Well, I don't have as much of a problem with that in that they were only used very briefly. The uniforms for that film look horrible and seem poor to function, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were replaced in a crash course. It's not the first time a military has adopted some lemon equipment or attire and then desperately tried to find a replacement immediately afterwards. Look at arms procurement in the late 19th century in some countries. For what it's worth, WOK's uniforms and color scheme remained in force with minor changes for the better part of 70 years.

I have a lot more problem along your lines, however, with the TNG era and afterwards. We see, from 2350 to 2380, a change from WOK to TNG (which got modified to a new model after a few years), and then TNG to DS9. To make matters worse you see a new uniform later in DS9! Some episodes you can see TNG, early DS9 and/or late DS9 clothing mixed together at the same time, without rhyme or reason. Now THAT'S sloppy.

>>25225

I like that explanation, however I think red for command and blue for science should be the default. It's been shown that people with a commanding personality, who are good at taking charge and giving orders, tend to have red as their favorite color. Logically minded, methodical people on the other hand tend to have blue as their favorite color. I'm not sure if the costume department was aware of this but I think it's an interesting tidbit and worth keeping.

I assumed the red and yellow were to denote the difference between naval aviator (pilot) and naval flight officer (sensors and weapons) training paths like the real USN.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Naval_Aviator

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Flight_Officer

>>25217

Does Star trek Online have an in game rationale for there being like a dozen different star-fleet outfit choices existing at the same time, or does it just pretend the everyone actually wearing the same suit even when they're clearly not

>>25228

I like the idea of medical being all white, and blue is just science. Strictly speaking you want you medics to be clearly visually separated from your other crew. And white seems to have "non combat" meanings even for the other ST races. Also science really should have a much larger proportion on the later day fed ships than the shows ever seem to put on there. They always made the size of security personnel on every ship seem crazy bloated huge even by standards of modern nav ships, and those things are pure weapons of war with none of the peace mission pretense.

>>25225

If you wanted to be really anal-retentive about it, you'd note that the division of the Departments themselves is screwy as well. Going on the system used by the U.S. Navy, there should be four:

>Administration – the command staff, the ship's yeoman as well as any logistics officers, and the ship's doctor

>Operations – navigators, pilots, communications, sensors, as well as any mission specialists or science officers

>Engineering – self explanatory

>Weapons – including security, tactical, gunners, et al

>>25238

> It's just a game. It was never built to be a Star Trek simulator

To be fair to STO, the space combat, especially for cruisers, is surprisingly faithful to what I would imagine trek battles to "feel" like, especially considering it uses MMO combat.

>>25237

I always find it hard to get the right uniform and the right color tones. It's also a pain in the ass to go through the menus.

>>25238

>no more than they have an explanation for why all the characters are scaled-down to midget size relative to their environment.

I hate that too. I guess that's the problem with MMOs.

>>25230

The in-story reason is basically…from what I remember, boiled down to "we at Starfleet no longer give a shit about official dress, wear whatever the fuck you want, just keep the bikinis to Risa". That was a while ago though, it might have changed.

>>25256

> just keep the bikinis to Risa.

Meanwhile the KDF is filled with Birds of Preys captained by Cardassians, Orions,and Trills in slave leia outfits.

I'll give the STO some credit. They at least had the balls to give the game a breast size slider in current year

>>25257

>Orion female captains in slave outfits with massive titties

What every Star Trek game should be.

>>25257

KDF have it easier, and its a bit more lore friendly uniform wise over there anyway, overall the KDF is a bit more ragtag/mixed force in-game so a wide degree of freedom is quite appropriate.

Still, there's enough uniform choices over at Club Fed you can get some very fetching results on that end as well. I actually had a few nice setups for female uniforms over the years, which changed as new clothes came out.

>They at least had the balls to give the game a breast size slider in current year

It wasn't CURRENT YEAR when the game was first released, but it was getting there. That said breasts are important but I was very particular with the upper torso in general; big tits are great but for maximum effect you need the whole package down pat.

>>25261

pics?

>>25288

>Why the fuck did you not invent another alien race!? Is it so hard?!

For the type of people who are responsible for stds, yes, yes it is. They can not create, they are bankrupt and barren in their imagination. They're basically skinwalkers.

>>25289

Are these people to retarded and lazy to take one of the background aliens that exist in ST instead?

I mean Jesus fuck.

How stupid do you have to be to not have the capacity to make up a alien name?

Here i make it for you:

Makuzians.

Literally made up on the spot.

>>25290

>Are these people to retarded and lazy to take one of the background aliens that exist in ST instead?

Yes. You do remember that these are the same skinwalkers who does not get trek, never cared for trek, actively hates trek when their masks drops. The only reason they want trek or for that matter anything that has become big (sci fi in general) is because it's already well known. They want a turnkey IP to leech off, and when their incompetence fucks that up as it always does. They'll blame the "problematically toxic entitled" fans who are not buying their dogshit encrusted AIDS needle flavored ice cream.

>>25288

>Why the fuck did you not invent another alien race!? Is it so hard?!

Or they could've brought the Caitians or the Kzinti instead of turning the Saurians into a reskin of the chicken officer from the first season.

>>25292

I thought klingon was the one race it was impossible to fuck up, they were so incredibly simplistic that a child could write them. I was sadly wrong.

>>20468

>>it just looks so objectively bad…

It is. Imagine watching it without current year special effects, its neither campy nor intellectual.

>>25394

>they were so incredibly simplistic that a child could write them

Err no? Klingons on the surface appear like savage brutes but they are anything but. They are calculated, cunning, methodical warriors who are skillful and adaptive to pretty much any situation. If you think Klingons are simple you've never watched Star Trek let alone any Klingon episode.

They can be bloodthirsty one minute but then show remarkable patience the next. There's heavy emphasis on learning and being prepared. The Klingons have a fearsum reputation because they get shit done above all else.

This is where STD went heavily wrong with them. They tried to write them as 1 dimensional brutes when even in TOS that was nowhere close to the case. Klingons are by far one of the most complex races in Star Trek.

Moonves and Kurtzman on suicide watch (new Midnight's Edge video)

>>25723

>He seemed to suggest that TOS klingon, STD klingorcs, and the established klingons we know and love from TMP through ENT are going to co-exist as different houses or some shit.

lol I bet Kurtzman and his writing team thought that they would be original and say "you know, like in Game of Thrones", ignoring that the concept of houses was already established in previous Trek shows.

>>25439

> current year special effects,

Those sfx, as well as the make up, prosthetics, even the basic cinematography looks genuinely bad though. Like a rejected abortion of a tv movie from SyFi channel.

>>25870

It would have been better to just bring in Zachary Quinto for a guest spot or two since it is all the same timeline.

>>25884

Somehow I doubt they have the budget to bring in a Hollywood guest star. We don't have any hard data on how much season 1 brought in, but the fact that they're keeping quiet besides vague positives speaks volumes.

>>25885

It's not as though there's some massive gulf between "Movie Star " and "TV Star" anymore though.

Hell Quinto used to be on TV, so I can't imagine a fifteen minute guest appearance could hurt them that much.

It would be good though if their budget was really that tight and they were deep in the red though, wouldn't it?

>>20856

Wouldn't the food replicator refuse to let her become so fat? Why isn't the ships doctor intervening?

>>25909

Even if we say there's no difference, essential point is the same—a show that's hemorrhaging both audience and talent to a tongue-in-cheek parody of its source material probably doesn't have the budget to hire the lead from a blockbuster film.

>>25909

>It's not as though there's some massive gulf between "Movie Star " and "TV Star" anymore though.

It's true that if someone makes it big with say a popular tv series, they can be just as well known as a "movie star", maybe more nowadays. But there is still that hierarchy that most of these fucks wants to be in movies. For them that's when they know they truly "made it".

>Hell Quinto used to be on TV, so I can't imagine a fifteen minute guest appearance could hurt them that much.

Might be the other way around, those who got into a movie gig may smell the stench and don't want the stink on them. Or they don't want to be seen "slumming it" back to tv.

>>25910

>Why isn't the ships doctor intervening?

They'd be in the brig for fat shaming in current stardate or some sheeeit.

>>25910

>"We've eliminated hunger, want, the need for possessions. We've grown out of our infancy." - Picard

<somehow an obese person managed to become a Starfleet officer

>Why isn't the ships doctor intervening?

The ship's doc is a flaming faggot.

>>25910

There shouldn't be food replicators on STD unless they've raped the lore of that as well.

>>25979

I think they had chemical based "food 3d printers" that could produce simple meals and raw ingredients that could be prepared into more elaborate food products even in the TOS. All replicators added were ships only needing energy to produce the food (and the ability to make much more complicated meals), instead of storing large amounts of base materials for the food dispensers to work with.

Granted, I think STD did show some sort of fucking energy to matter replication in the first season

How does it make you feel that STD copied vidya?

http://archive.is/vG3sa

http://archive.is/lmDGY

>>26756

wow

It looks like shit. Fat ginger is still an annoying spaz.

>>26756

>autist chub is still autistic

>subliminal messaging with near-naked negros

>diverse-looking alien

I'm impressed they managed to get so much poz into just 15 seconds.

lol a bunch of posts just appeared out of nowhere (including the one I was talking about)

>>26875

awww, does Asspie McGingertits get a girl friend now?

I swear, I hate Discovery for so many reasons.

The characters are one-dimensional and it seems to me that these companies are only using this whole feminism/social justice thing to try to catch that fabled "New Demographic" to sell crap to. Not to mention also using it as a excuse to write badly written stories and using nepotism to hire bad writers that haven't even written any sci-fi or even know about Star Trek.

I also have a feeling that CBS and many of the directors and CEOs don't want to admit that Discovery is a failure, because if they did, they would be out of a job. This has everything to do with ego and narcissism.

And I myself am a left-winger, a more old-school labor left-winger. So that is really saying something about nuTrek.

This is why Copyright needs to be reformed or completely torn up and everything put in the public domain.

If only Gene had the foresight to put in a clause to have Star Trek released into in the Public Domain 10 years after his death, we wouldn't even have Discovery to worry about.

Hell, I could have written a better Star Trek show, even like a Klingon Mini-Series dealing with the politics of the High Council and the Houses.

>>27049

>If only Gene had the foresight to put in a clause to have Star Trek released into in the Public Domain 10 years after his death, we wouldn't even have Discovery to worry about.

Gene being a commie is a meme. The guy added a chorus over the TOS main theme so he would earn the same rights as the composer.

>CBS and many of the directors and CEOs don't want to admit that Discovery is a failure, because if they did, they would be out of a job. This has everything to do with ego and narcissism.

The first season of STD was a huge failure but since it's the main appeal of the streaming service they couldn't cancel it after the first season, not because of narcissism but because it would've been a bad PR decision. That's also why they refuse to reveal the numbers of subscribers.

>>27050

This is why I said that Copyright had become such a bloated Mess, that it needs to be reformed back to it's original 27 years. And Many works to be grandfathered into the public domain.

Not to mention that I have always felt that SJWs are nothing but the unwitting useful idiots of corporations and the SJWs simply haven't gotten the clue that many of their fights and identities and ideas have essentially become co-opted and commodified by big corporations.

They simply got turned into yet another gullible demographic to sell crap to and they don't realize that are simply being used by corporations and once their time in the sun is over these companies will just toss them aside like yesterday's news.

>>27051

it seems like CBS is trying to make old Trek forgotten and make everyone pay attention to their new badly-written Trek.

This has everything to do with corporations simply driving something into the ground as a chance to try to make more profits with shoehorning in identity politics and other "hip with the kids" crap at the expense of things like good writing, good characterization and fun adventures.

>>27049

>And I myself am a left-winger

We can tell, you type like one. Good on your for not liking STD but that's not a very tall hurdle to cross, intellectually speaking.

>many of their fights and identities and ideas have essentially become co-opted and commodified by big corporations.

Here's a secret: So are you. The largest corporations will benefit the most from increased regulations, even moreso when they're the ones writing them. There's a reason so many CEOs become "corporate liberals," and they're only too happy that you're fighting their battles for them.

>>27051

> This is why I said that Copyright had become such a bloated Mess, that it needs to be reformed back to it's original 27 years. And Many works to be grandfathered into the public domain.

Nah, fuck that shit. Copyright and patents, need to be four years, non-transferrable, registered to whoever did the actual work. Trademarks last only as long as they're in actual use, after which it's fair game. Anything more than that is corporate protectionism.

>>27053

Listen, these Feminists and SJWs aren't really left-wing in the slightest. They are nothing but liberal capitalists that want to be put on the top of the pyramid of the Capitalist system.

Not a surprise, seeing how most of them are a bunch of bourgeoisie trust-fund kids.

Getting back to trek,

I really think that these big corporations are only using identity politics as a way to excuse bad writing and lazy creativity.

Thoughts on the first episode of Short Treks?

I can't believe that they managed to write something worse than the first season

>>27076

You got webbums for us? I'm sure as hell not paying for that shit and I don't care enough to go searching myself.

>>27078

Why did they not get half-way decent actors for this show? This is fucking pathetic. It's making the worst of Terry Farrell look good. And there's nothing in that scene aside from a mention of dilithium crystals that make me even suspect it is in some way related to the Trek franchise. From TOS through ENT, you still had a certain style that they managed to uphold. And I know Berman wasn't the best writer or got along with several of his main actors, but at least he got that style.

And why the fuck is everything so fucking BLUE? It looks like shit, it makes your actors look like garbage and it reeks of nu-sci-fi.

>>27079

I forgot to add that the alien girl's planet is rich on dilithium, that they've recently discovered the warp technology but she has invented the tech to re-grow the crystals because she doesn't want her people to use the planet resources (even Rian Johnson wouldn't write that shit).

A few minutes before the end of the episode, she tells Tilly that she is a princess and the reason she ran away from her homeworld is because she's supposed to be the new queen.

This is [current year] Trek.

>>27080

>Why did they not get half-way decent actors for this show?

Why would you hire talented actors on a show that can only deliver shitty CW scripts?

>>27084

They don't know how to write believable and interesting characters. Every female character on STD is a projection of themselves.

Doomcock's review of the Short Trek episode.

>>27086

>bitches about them having suddenly having easy access to universal translators

What? Does he want them to go back to the god awful first season shit where the actors are too busy trying to remember the made up gibberish they're suppose to spit out to actually try to act out their characters worth a shit?

STD made the attempt at realism by having the aliens almost exclusively talk in their own language, and Beyond tried having a more realistic universal translator that actually talked over a person's actual speech. Those both turned out to suck balls and dragged scenes down. Just accept that you need bullshit magic translators that everyone can carry for the show to work even if it breaks some fragile patchwork canon and move on. STD has enough problems to bitch about without complaining about long standing story contrivances that necessary for a trek to even function.

>>27103

>milk alternative

Soy universe confirmed.

>>27114

>t-that's not Number One, right?

It's her.

>His retooled yellow uniform ain't half-bad, but we know he isn't going to wear that for long.

…and since Number One is on the show I don't think we will see him a lot.

They do look better than the skinny Discovery uniforms.

>>27113

This 'red angel' nonsense is going to be some kind of massive temporal anomaly, or since this season is supposedly about faith vs science, some unknowable higher cosmic power that the show will pretend is a progressive and ballsy inclusion. Starfleet wants to study it, Section 31 wants to steal it. It's also going to be their vehicle to shoehorn this god awful travesty into the prime timeline with some hand-wavey bullshit.

Also along the way, hobo Spock will have his fractured male mind saved by his extra-special half-sister that he never talked about in over 50 years of Trek. Hopefully she'll sacrifice herself to restore proper order to the timeline, erasing herself from existence in the process.

>>27116

Some people think that the red angel is related to the Iconians but as much as I wish there was a Trek show focused on the Iconians, I don't think the STD people can do a good job since they can't even write a good Trek episode.

>>27116

>since this season is supposedly about faith vs science, some unknowable higher cosmic power that the show will pretend is a progressive and ballsy inclusion

>STD is taking Final Frontier and seeing if they can't make it any worse

This confirms it, STD is actually one giant shitpost and there's an anon somewhere in the production crew.

>>27125

I know you want Killey to sit on your face.

>>27129

>first pic

Ah yes, the so current year hairstyle of the brain surgery procedure recipient. Very hot and trendy, seen everywhere in the gommie campus, limo liberal latte's dispensarium, and soy infused pod people. But why did they pussy out with the hair color, where's the unnatural neon dye job color, shame.

>faggots are watching STD

Retards

>>27126

I said "person," not "marshmallow with a ginger mop."

>>23235

that medbay looks really fucking good.