No.184 [Last50 Posts]
There's a lot of focus on Motoko's elements, but one thing I think doesn't get enough love is her wardrobe, especially in the manga. For example, this lovely jacket/trouser ensemble with the Indian style embroidered trim
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No.186
The varied wardrobe is another reason why Mangatoko>SACtoko, though I understand why they did so; animation needing consistency, etc.
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No.190
>>186
even then, it's undeniable that her best outfits usually come from the manga (with the exception of that lovely pumpkin jacket from the movie)
still, look at those bootsies, how they perfectly complement her bodysuit. Vastly superior to the clunky combat boots and pink greaves she wears in SAC
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No.192
>>190
Shirow really doesn't get the appreciation he deserves as a character/costume designer. Not just in GITS, but in his other pre-95 works, he's fantastic at it.
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No.194
>>192
He quite frequently begins a chapter with a full-body drawing of a main character in a cool new outfit. Deunan is the best example but it also happens to Motoko, as shown here
>>190
So, clearly, even outside of sexy abstract art, he has a taste for using his girls as fashion models.
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No.200
>>194
He often closes them as well; from the workout scene between Deunan and Hitomi to the end of the… 4th volume I think? With Deunan and Bri planning a holiday.
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No.208
An interesting part of Motoko's fashion tastes is that they seem to be purposefully Asian-inspired. There's this jacket, of course (which actually reminds me a bit of Mongol outerwear) but there's also some other outfits with straight shoulders and a diagonal front panel, much like a kimono.
the black outfit she wears in the Kuril isles even has puffy sleeves and trousers tapered at the forearms and shins, giving her a distinctly ninja-like silhouette.
And there's also her tactical fundoshi and ninja headband.
What I'm trying to say is, unlike other Shirow protagonists, Motoko really comes off as a bit of a weeb.
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No.209
>>208
Well, she's really the only protag of his to really be a Japanese one; you could argue Leona Ozaki, but Newport there was specifically set up to be a more international, sci-fi feeling place with people from all over the world, Leona herself not being full Japanese, while in Ghost in the Shell part of the focus is that while the world's connected and corporate/government is merging, ethnic groups and languages haven't disappeared. Rather than a periphery police station, Motoko is right at the heart of Japanese politics; frequently dealing with situations involving national security, politicians, etc.
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No.210
>>209
The others? You've got Black Magic and Orion, which don't take place in 'our world' (technically speaking, both taking place so far back in the past to essentially be nothing to do with our world) and Appleseed is set outside of Japan with non-Japanese protagonists.
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No.211
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No.215
>>211
But yes, like you said, a lot of her clothing does seem to purposefully push an Asian aesthetic, compared to say her drinking outfit in the first chapter, or the stuff that Deunan gets into.
Speaking of, did Leona ever really dress up much? She had that kinda cool outfit in the New Dominion Tank Police episode, and the bunny girl outfit in the first OVA, but I don't remember her in the manga ever enjoying changing into her civvies.
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No.216
>>215
don't think so
she's a massive military otaku anyway, I do't think she'd dress in a very glamorous way.
in New Dominion we see that she basically dresses like Motoko in the movie, but with a red jacket instead of an orange one.
Holy shit come to think of it it might be the other way around: Oshii made Motoko dress like Leona.
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No.217
>>216
Nah, I think puffer jackets were just a thing in the 90s for anime characters. They were all over the place.
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No.218
>>217
yeah but it's not just that, it's also the same pants, same boots, same gloves
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No.221
>>216
There is this art here. And she strips down a little to polish Bonarparte.
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No.222
>>218
It is pretty close now that you say, though I'd argue that Leona is closer to some of Shirow's cuter drawings here; slightly cartoonish proportions than Oshii had her in the film.
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No.223
>>222
>Oshii had Motoko in the film.
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No.225
>>222
you should have posted the pics in reverse order to make it look like Leona is angry at Movietoko for biting her style!
I mean it's blatant, Leona rides a bike, Motoko drives a car, why is she dressed like a biker if not to copy Leona?
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No.227
>>225
No, you see, Motoko is wearing orange, while Leona is wearing red.
She doesn't have a foot to stand on here. Plus what the hell is a little police sergeant out in the sticks going to do to someone who's boss directly answers to the Prime Minister?
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No.229
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No.230
>>227
Red makes Leona look hot-blooded, Orange makes Motoko look like a big ol' halloween pumpkin!
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No.231
>>229
Looks like someone wants to reassigned to a small police booth out in the countryside in the middle of nowhere. So far out of the way the locals don't even know what tanks are.
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No.232
>>230
Nah, it's that specific lightish beige orange; it's hard to describe but it definitely gives off a certain tone or feeling of urban future.
Compared to the rich darker orange of a pumpkin.
Alternatively you're right and this is a big Cinderella metaphor we've missed.
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No.233
>>231
Right, cause that's totally something a no-name goon who constantly antagonizes the SDF can pull off.
Besides I don't bloody remember Motoko doing too well against tanks; if she's interested in visiting the countryside, Bonaparte can give her a free ride; ON TOP OF A HI-EX SHELL
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No.234
>>232
>Cinderella turning back into a pauper is mirrored in the scene where Motoko gets torn apart
>ambiguous romance plot about two characters from different worlds fated to unite in spite of not knowing one another
DEEPEST LORE
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No.236
>>233
Looks like Little Miss Walking Lawsuit thinks she can play with the big girls, huh? Not only can Motoko get away with punching a Cabinet Minister in the face, she's also got connections all over the place herself. Plus, she wouldn't even HAVE to pull strings officially; she can just dive into the Newport PD's records and fuck around there, leak the right information to the wrong people, and boom. Someone's stuck out in the rice fields guiding tourists to a museum on cryptid snakes and searching for lost cats.
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No.237
>>234
Truly Oshii is a jenuz.
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No.239
>>236
CRYPTID SNAKES YOU SAY?
Also you better believe Leona's the best damn cat-finder in Honshu.
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No.240
>>239
Good thing for her then! She'll be putting her skills to real use.
That said, I had thought Motoko did have a motorbike when she was messing about in 1.5 as Chroma, but it turns out it's another cyborg later and not Motoko.
>And it was a trike scooter thing anyway.
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No.273
>>222
Motoko's rocked the puffy jacket outside of the film as well.
I think this is promo art for the PS1 game. Also note the fingernails.
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No.274
>>273
That is also not a good stance to shoot your pistol, Motoko, stop being so chuuni.
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No.277
>>274
>Three buckles and straps on her gloves
>Painted red nails
>Shotgun in shoulder holster.
It's too late.
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No.291
>>236
>Motoko
>big girl
I don't think so!
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No.292
>>291
Hey, any Shirow character is at risk of contracting the smols; don't poke fun at Motoko when she's down with the condition.
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No.293
>>292
Wot if Motoko's braincase is actually a cockpit containing a tinytoko?
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No.294
>>293
Then that would be adorable.
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No.295
more funky outfits, you can see the beginning of her SAC leotard right there.
The question is: why does Motoko wear bondage gear in public? Is she that much of a sub?
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No.296
further evidence: she is on leash
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No.299
Hang on a second; was Chroma's outfit the one Motoko's avatar in that forum episode of GITS?
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No.300
>>293
So… would the smol Motoko also be a cyborg?
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No.301
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No.302
>>301
So… would there be a SMOLLER motoko inside that Motoko?
Just Motokos all the way down?
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No.303
>>302
exactly!
And I'm Sure even Oshii would enjoy turning it into a weird visual metaphor involving recursive mirrors and dolls
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No.308
>>303
IT COMES TO ME!
A CREEPY DESOLATE ORNATE HOUSE; EXTREMELY BAROQUE AND ORNATE YET OBVIOUSLY HIGH TECHNOLOGY
INSIDE THE HOUSE IN THE ANTEROOM AND FIRST PARTS OF IT ARE SEVERAL MANNEQUINS, DRESSED UP IN CLOTHING; AS YOU GO FURTHER AND FURTHER INTO THE HOUSE, THERE'S SMALLER DOLLS; HALF THE SIZE of fuck the caps lock, half the size of the mannequins.
Whoever's entering the place, going inside (probably found a email or a mysterious note left to him out of the blue to go there), pauses half way; he can see the hallway leading more into the heart of the house; the dolls getting smaller and smaller and more broken as you head in. The camera locks on his face then pans in as he's stuck between two mirrors; a large doll visible on one side and a small doll on the other, with another shot from each side showing the doorway, bright with light shilloutting him and the other from the back showing the growing darkness of the mansion.
As he reaches the center, there's a computer terminals in a room covered with wires, and tech, and on the keyboard is a tiny, GI Joe style figure of the Major with a blank look on her face. He reaches in to pick it up, and then blinks; the house becomes a ruin, the dolls don't exist, and he's looking around, bewildered.
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No.311
>>295
It's especially egregious when you consider that no one else seems to wear it (everyone in SAC seems to be basically wearing 2000s Japanese clothing).
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No.314
I'd love to sit down with Shirow and have a long talk with him about his clothing designs, the influences, etc.
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No.315
>>308
Stop posting my ideas online, gaijin
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No.316
>>308
>No bassett hound
0/10
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No.1238
>>230
>listens to post-punk once
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No.1241
>>1238
Once is all it takes.
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No.1245
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No.1460
Rather nice dress there, Shousa.
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No.1461
>>1460
it's the one she's wearing in 2.0 innit
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No.1462
>>1461
It does look similar.
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No.1470
>a leash and sleeves
wow real classy, shousa
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No.1471
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No.1487
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No.1489
>>1487
What a doll
what if the leash is actually a keychain?
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No.1491
>>1489
That would make her really tiny; the largest she could be without making it difficult to fit in pockets or such would be about 4 and a half inches or so. So about the size of this little Shousa here.
What would make it better is if that the keychain can be popped off and plugged into your mobile phone so she could help you out with all sorts of tasks and such.
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No.1695
Here she is rocking her trenchcoat, all hardboiled and junk.
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No.1699
Also this ensemble which I love; that almost samuari-esque cut to her jacket.
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No.1702
Not just GITS either; lookit this cute Leona, very fluffy.
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