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 No.9595

no comment

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 No.9596

What does asexual, polyamorous dating mean exactly? Is it distinguishable from friendship?

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 No.9597

>>9596

>I’m saying that I’ve seen polycules with those demographics–for god’s sake, I worked at Google in the Bay–and while no one had a written OPP, the vast majority of those excess men were dating in name only. Because of status games and desire to be capital-P Poly, women would take secondaries…but not sleep with them, or be intimately available, or do anything else someone not in Rationalist Tumblr would identify as “dating.”

>Those men took the deal (“sure, you can say we’re in a Poly relationship, just don’t touch me, loser”) because the alternative was being single. I can’t entirely blame them, though it’s not for me. But the net effect is the same as a few high status people keeping harems.

>It is possible your network is different. And for the people who aren’t mostly straight and heterosexual, I could even believe that was likely - dynamics there are not like those in straight dating. But it’s more likely, without overwhelming evidence, that for straight people most every polycule is going to follow the familiar paths. And claims that this time it’s different are easy to say and hard to enforce m

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 No.9598

>>9596

I'd expect more cuddling.

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 No.9599

>>9597

In fairness, Scott is sufficiently high status that he's probably asexual by choice. I mean, status in this community is really suboptimal for meeting women, but he's sooo high status that he probably has at least one or two options that a normal person would also want.

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 No.9600

>>9597

Wow. What fucking losers.

Sounds like a great way to feel just good enough that they don't actually acknowledge their own problem and fucking do something about it.

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 No.9601

>>9596

it means cuckold fetish

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 No.9602

>>9597

The bay area sounds awful. In NYC people making even entry level google money would have no problem getting dates. Though, I think the minimum social skills threshold is higher here. So that's a trade-off.

Anyway, it doesn't seem like that's the dynamic going on with scott. He's a doctor, he's in the midwest, and he's at least niche famous. I can't see why he wouldn't have options.

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 No.9603

>>9595

yay, I noticed them talking on tumblr again

rationalist OTP desu

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 No.9604

>>9596

Yeah, some people seem to think there exists something called "romance" that is distinct from friendship or sex or friendship and sex. I'm not really sure what they're talking about either but enough people report experiencing it that it's probably a thing.

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 No.9605

>>9604

Love is certainly greater than its parts, but its parts are mutual friendship and mutual lust. There's no third orthogonal component.

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 No.9606

>>9596

bugmen rubbing their chitinous stubs together

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 No.9607

>>9605

It's a fundamentally different feeling. I've never had that weird fuzzy warm woozy feeling for a friend.

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 No.9608

>>9607

Do you have mutual lust with any of them?

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 No.9609

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>>9604

>>9605

>>9607

>>9608

>"Rationalist" board

>These niggers haven't heard of the Typical Mind Fallacy

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 No.9610

>>9609

The image board native chimes in.

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 No.9611

>>9609

>>These niggers haven't heard of the Typical Mind Fallacy

>>9604

>I'm not really sure what they're talking about either but enough people report experiencing it that it's probably a thing.

You realize you don't have to explicitly namecheck a rationalist concept every time you use it, right? Now are you going to help us ponder the phenomenology of love, or what?

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 No.9612

>>9611

Yes you do, they're our cult's prayers slash magic incantations

Seriously though, actually naming it crystallises the pattern, and makes it harder to just deny certain qualia exist like mister "there's no third orthogonal component" over there.

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 No.9613

>>9612

There isn't. And calling me a nigger is Bayesian evidence that you are an edgelord with nothing worthwhile to say.

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 No.9614

>>9613

Nigger who the fuck uses a tone argument on an 8chan board?

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 No.9615

>>9605

>Love is certainly greater than its parts, but its parts are mutual friendship and mutual lust. There's no third orthogonal component.

Nope, there is also limerance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limerence

>Limerence involves intrusive thinking about the limerent object.[1] Other characteristics include acute longing for reciprocation, fear of rejection, and unsettling shyness in the limerent object's presence. In cases of unrequited limerence, transient relief may be found by vividly imagining reciprocation from the limerent object. Tennov suggests that feelings of limerence can be intensified through adversity, obstacles, or distance - 'Intensification through Adversity'.[15] A limerent person may have acute sensitivity to any act, thought, or condition that can be interpreted favorably. This may include a tendency to devise, fabricate, or invent "reasonable" explanations for why neutral actions are a sign of hidden passion in the limerent object.

>A person experiencing limerence has a general intensity of feeling that leaves other concerns in the background. In their thoughts, such a person tends to emphasize what is admirable in the limerent object and to avoid any negative or problematic attributes.

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 No.9616

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>>9614

Uh any board not dominated by /pol/yps? For instance, try throwing "nigger" around on /leftypol/ and see how it is before someone tells you to fuck off back to /pol/ regardless of the other content of your post.

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 No.9617

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>>9616

>/leftypol/ is your go-to example

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 No.9618

>>9617

/pol/ and /leftypol/ and /ratanon/ are the only boards here I read but I figure 8chan isn't one giant /pol/ hugbox

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 No.9619

>>9618

But your example of "not being a /pol/ hugbox" is /leftypol/, which has its own reasons for being exceptionally prone to saying "fuck off back to /pol/".

Also, y'know, tone arguments are bullshit anyway, whether using the word "nigger" on 8chan is an unusually offensive tone to take isn't really relevant to that.

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 No.9620

>>9619

All I see is whining that the claim goes against 8chan culture. No actual argument for why it is "bullshit".

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 No.9621

>But your example of "not being a /pol/ hugbox" is /leftypol/

And like I explained, I used that as an example because that's the only other 8chan board I read besides /pol/ and /ratanon/. Are you claiming there are no other 8chan boards besides /leftypol/ (and /ratanon/, evidently) where people will get irritated by /pol/-tier posting style?

>Also, y'know, tone arguments are bullshit anyway

I'd say tone arguments are somewhat relevant in that an overly insulting tone can derail the kind of autistically genteel discussion style favored by most "internet rationalists" (this board is for the most part not an exception, sure there may be some more salty sailor talk here than on the lesswrong or slatestarcodex comments but it's usually directed at people/ideas other than fellow posters).

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 No.9622

>>9621

Honestly, I'm not even trying to insult people except when it furthers the cause of shitposting, I'm just appropriating ebonics and refusing to do the thing where you contextually spell it "nigga".

I mean, considering the demographic makeup of (((rationalists))), "nigger" is kind of a shit insult vs the typical anon here, isn't it?

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 No.9623

>sperging out about someone using "nigger" in a fucking imageboard

bitch please

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 No.9624

Saying "nigger" isn't even strictly /pol/ behavior. People were shitposting about nigs on /b/ long before there ever was a /pol/ or /new/ back on 4chan. /leftypol/ is the recent exception not the rule.

Keep /pol/ in /pol/ is about not jacking off over Hitler, not about not being racist. Racism is like air here.

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 No.9625

>>9618

you should lurk /a/ too because it's a good board. don't post in it though, you filthy crossboarder.

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 No.9626

If you're offended enough by the word "nigger" to dismiss a post entirely for containing it, then you belong on /r/slatestarcodex, not here.

>>9624

>Saying "nigger" isn't even strictly /pol/ behavior. People were shitposting about nigs on /b/ long before there ever was a /pol/ or /new/ back on 4chan.

This is a fact.

>Keep /pol/ in /pol/

"Keep /pol/ in /pol/' is nothing more than moot's explicitly partisan preferences being deliberately seeded into 4chan culture over time. It should have no relevance here. If you are truly a rationalist, then you should have the intellectual skillset to semantically extricate the partisan (or even "offensive") attributes of any given post from its remaining meaning and therefore any restriction on partisan expression (including that in the realm of the "offensive") is unncessary in such a context. Grow up niggers.

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 No.9627

>>9626

Why would you want to ignore the offensive elements? They are good Bayesian evidence that you ought to not update on or put much effort into thinking about the rest of the post. Shitposters are either entertaining or worthless, they are never worth taking seriously.

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 No.9628

>>9627

Shitposters are the only people worth taking seriously.

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 No.9629

>>9628

but not literally

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 No.9630

>>9626

Not jacking off over Hitler is still good though, because A: it's been done to death, at least be interesting and worship Strasser or something, and B: Hitler was a complete failure and his actions largely led to the psychotic anti-racism we deal with today. He destroyed Europe for revanchist bullshit. C: it's just all German supremacy crap in the end. /pol/ acts as if the English and Russians should hate their ancestors because of WWII. The Brit/pol/ threads got purged of dissenters for the charge of essentially being too racist for /pol/ and not wanting to lick German boots. It's all shallow aesthetic LARP wankery in the end.

D: The users there are deeply deeply insane from spending too much time chasing unverifiable conspiracy theories.

Keep /pol/ in /pol/ is good advice not because oo-er dats waycist but because the /pol/ consensus (as much as try to pull the implying /pol/ is one person meme it does exist) is centered around stormfront tier bullshit that is stale as fuck at this point. /pol/ is only good in small doses when there are "happenings" going on, and when something spurs them to action against some outsider. The rest of the time you could write a script with just 100 lines of code and replicate the activity of the entire board reliably. Racism isn't the problem there.

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 No.9631

>>9630

i take my /pol/-in-small-doses by reading /polk/ instead of /pol/. /pol/ is shilled to fuck and it got especially unbearable after 8chan came back from that hack in early april

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 No.9632

>>9631

/polk/ redpill squad checking in

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 No.9633

>>9632

Imagine I superimposed some guns on James here and made a "James /k/ Polk" joke. I'm lazy.

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 No.9634

>>9633

I gotchu fam

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