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No.7676
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No.7677
>>7674
Anyone calling themselves a "rationalist" without predicting a Trump victory is a cucked retard.
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No.7678
>>7677
I *did* predict the Trump victory, that's the thing! I posted so many smug faces about it!
I was this close to putting all my money on Trump yesterday morning when the odds were 4:1, but then I thought, as a "rationalist", that by the efficient market hypothesis the betting markets should know better than me and I was just buying into the hype.
I even dreamed, that night (UK timezone), that I'd bet my money on Trump and that Clinton had won. It took ages for the reality to set in when I got up this morning and checked the internet.
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No.7679
>>7676
>Venezuela used to be an up-and-coming country with one of the fastest-growing economies in South America. And then they elected an impulsive populist leader who made a few decisions he probably didn't think were that bad at the time, and now Venezuela is on the verge of being a failed state.
I like how he "forgets" to mention SOCIALISM when talking about Venezuela.
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No.7680
>>7673
Now someone tell Thiel that he needs to fix his posture or he's going to end up with a hunchback.
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No.7681
>>7673
Moldbug idolized the wrong paypal founder.
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No.7682
any estimates for p(moves to a foreign country | is a celebrity who said he/she’s moving to a foreign country if Trump is elected)?
I would have just said “Canada” instead of “a foreign country”, but Samuel L. Jackson said he’s moving to South Africa if Trump gets elected.
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No.7683
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No.7684
>>7679
>it's all the fault of the one thing I disagree with and has nothing to do with the things I like
Oh ratanon, never change.
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No.7685
The night of the elections (I live in europe) I dreamed that Peter Thiel and Milo Yannapoulos were married and Thiel had a youtube channel where he posted dank memes.
In retrospect I consider this an omen (I said omen, not homo) from Kek.
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No.7686
>>7685
>from Kek
You don't really take it seriously do you?
>Moldbug idolized the wrong paypal founder.
Hah. Thiel CEO of USA when. I'm really intrigued for what he'll do!
But we'll need Musk to prevent climate change.
I'm not sure what to think of this outcome, but there are at least two positive things with it: we get to see what Thiel wanted to do, and US gets friendlier to Russia so there's less threat of nuclear war. Even North Korea hate the US a little less now.
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No.7687
>the SALT from Earthly Knight
o i am laffin
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No.7688
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No.7689
AQ 414 = PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP = A CYCLE OF DEATH AND REBIRTH = EVERYTHING WILL BE FIRE = PROLIFERATION OF MEMES = THINKING OUT OF THE BOX
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
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No.7690
>>7686
>The Year of Our Lord 2016
>Still believing in climate change
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No.7691
>>7690
Really. The scientific consensus really is for it. What incentive would a group have to push that belief if it's not true? It's not like climate change helps minorities or something.
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No.7692
>>7691
I don't think that climate change is a hoax, but come on.
Just look at I-732. A solid piece of environmental legislation, it was opposed by the left because it didn't bribe their constituencies. Progressives basically see climate change as a cudgel to use to achieve other goals, and they've been good at using that cudgel. It's just the latest excuse for anti-capitalism.
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No.7693
>>7692
>Progressives basically see climate change as a cudgel to use to achieve other goals, and they've been good at using that cudgel
Okay, I can believe that. Sorry, I'm not actually American and I wasn't aware.
> because it didn't bribe their constituencies
I thought the poor families that it was going to help with the raised money would've been left's constituencies? Maybe Trump constituencies now…
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No.7694
>>7693
Poor families only count if they're non-white or non-traditional sexual orientation. Poor whites have been abandoned by the American left, or at least that's perception that let Trump win the Rust Belt.
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No.7695
This election has vindicated classism. It turns out the White Working Class really were scum all along.
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No.7696
>>7695
I mean, sure, but so are all the other underclasses, and you guys still buy their vote.
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No.7697
We'd be happy to buy the WWC's votes. But they won't sell them. Instead they insist we buy them dinner, take them on moonlit walks, tell them how special they are, and pretend that the money we are giving them is for their extremely valuable contributions. Ain't nobody got time for that shit.
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No.7698
>>7697
You mean that instead of whoring their votes out like the black underclass, they actually have a sense of pride and dignity? Imagine that!
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No.7699
>>7695
You know this makes you a right winger, right?
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No.7700
"The working class are voting for right wing nationalists! Fucking prole scum!" is itself a right wing argument. It's just a international capitalist one.
Unless you want to say "The innocent working class were duped by a racist capitalist" then you're safely back into left wing territory. It's all about framing.
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No.7701
>>7673
blood for the blood god
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No.7702
>>7700
Man, it's almost as though reducing everything to a single right-left scale loses you nuance or something.
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No.7703
>>7698
False pride given that they have nothing to be proud of, but yes they are sure do like being told how special they are.
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No.7704
Now Scott Aaronson completely loses it, and works for the Vogons until they need replacement skin for their skin-suits.
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No.7705
>>7702
He's an anti-scaleist! Get him!
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No.7706
>>7700
I never claimed to be left wing. I'm a internationalist capitalist centrist/neoliberal. And now, a classist.
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No.7707
>>7706
You know you can just say "Jew" here, right?
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No.7708
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No.7709
>>7706
>internationalist capitalist centrist/neoliberal.
You need to be gassed publicly.
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No.7710
I kind of want to reflexively castigate posters for making anti-Semitic comments, except >>7707 was actually really funny and I laughed.
>>7709 wasn't though. Fuck you, >>7709
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No.7711
>>7710
Stop being antisemitic bro, he needs to be gassed for being internationalist capitalist centrist neoliberal scum, are you implying that makes him jewish like the other antisemite up there? Deplorable.
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No.7712
It's my understanding that hating jews is just part of the "norms of discourse" here.
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No.7713
>>7712
More like self-hating. We all want to stand atop the rubble holding all the shekels, and we hate ourselves for it.
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No.7714
>>7712
I think it's more generally a "be as /pol/ack as you fucking can" norm; probably an overcorrection to norms in other rationalsphere places.
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No.7715
>>7714
Weird. I've never been tempted to hate jews and black people here because of other rationalist spaces. usually it's all the leftist normies elsewhere on the internet that bring out my inner /pol/ack.
Even then, /pol/ just bores me. It's like they don't have any hobbies except hating jews and black people.
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No.7716
>>7712
You just notice them more because you expect. I've adopted an unorthodox "kill whites because they are inferior to jews, and kills jews because they are inferior to superintelligent AI" persona that I'm trying out.
I think if anything the true consensus of ratanon is genocide, which is the logic conclusion of any rational being that wants to exert its interests.
Cooperate, until you can defect, and when you defect, do it big.
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No.7717
>>7716
Like what do you think Friendly AI is all about?
Eliezer knows that coherent extrapolated blah is gibberish, so what he's trying to do is trick people into funding an AI that has Eliezer's values. Eliezer thinks that humans are replication maximizers so his "fear" of paperclip maximizing AI is mostly projection.
He wants to be the maximizer, just with polyamory and bad fan fiction instead of paperclips.
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No.7718
I don't get what Scott is doing. He keeps complaining about his readership, about being linked in the wrong places, etc. then he writes this bait that is expertly crafted to bring in _exactly_ the type of people (on both "sides") that he doesn't want.
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No.7719
>>7718
Sounds like he needs some testosterone.
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No.7720
>>7718
Scoot is hiding his powerlevel. That's what he's doing.
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No.7721
>>7717
Do you even think before you shit post?
>Eliezer thinks that humans are replication maximizers
http://lesswrong.com/lw/l3/thou_art_godshatter/
>so his "fear" of paperclip maximizing AI is mostly projection
Sorry, comrade, *you're* the one projecting. You're assuming a lack of a reasonable fear on his part, just because you don't share it.
>He wants to be the maximizer, just with polyamory and bad fan fiction instead of paperclips.
Maximal utility is the gift we give to tomorrow, my man. Don't make me post dril's wise man quote.
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No.7722
>>7721
>Eliezer thinks that humans are replication maximizers
He literally said just that when replying to Scott's latest AI article.
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No.7723
>>7722
No he fucking didn't.
I assume you're referring to http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/10/30/how-does-recent-ai-progress-affect-the-bostromian-paradigm/#comment-429577, in which he doesn't say anything *like* "humans are replication maximizers" at all, let alone literally saying "humans are replication maximizers".
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No.7724
>>7723
I think it's distantly possible to read the bit about how we want to "tile over the whole universe with non-clippy things" as referring to replication maximising, although you'd have to be literally retarded to think that's actually what he meant.
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No.13921
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