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File: e580c293bbbd2c1⋯.jpg (51.32 KB,640x480,4:3,1382821938226.jpg)

 No.6307

What's the most RATIONAL and OPTIMIZED way for me to find a gf?

>inb4 trannies

>inb4 polyamory

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 No.6308

>>6307

become poly tranny

> if you're not part of the solution…

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 No.6310

lower your standards

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 No.6311

Read the book Models.

PTFG

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 No.6312

File: ce063790fcfdd9b⋯.jpg (53.13 KB,640x480,4:3,show some love.jpg)

>>6307

The /real/ rational and optimized way for you to start rolling in pussy is to write a really good blog or Harry Potter fanfiction, apparently.

If you can't do that, I think Put a Number On It has a series on this subject. https://putanumonit.com/2016/02/20/018-dating_3/

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 No.6314

>>6307

build one

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 No.6315

>>6311

2nded - Models is a pretty good read.

Not super actionable, but it's good to get your mindset right.

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 No.6318

Join/start as many social groups as you can that have a decent number of available females. Become a valuable and trusted member of these groups. Remember, you're always gambling. Estimate the value of the twenty most commonly accepted interventions. Prioritize. Pick the top 5 (eg style, social skills, hygiene, storytelling) and perfect those as much as you can. Location is a biggie. Gather friends and followers like Pokemon. Express interest in a tasteful (varies culturally) manner to every available female. Accept rejection gracefully and move on, but turn them into friends if they're not going to hurt your odds.

There's a more srs answer than that. Need to test more. Not single enough for proper testing.

Sidenote: don't forget lonely females who never leave home. They play text based games, online white wolf bullshit, and who knows what else while you're being a shitty patron of AAA games. Try and get in on those. Like meatspace, start or become valuable to microcommunities.

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 No.6319

>>6307

Don't use female as a noun.

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 No.6321

Why? Do you dislike the use of 'mammal' and 'human' as well, or is it just hard for you to tell the difference between someone who is using a word descriptively and someone who's using it to reduce the relative worth of the group they're referring to?

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 No.6322

>>6321

Nothing political at all. It's purely an aesthetic critique. It's sounds either: ESL, like someone trying too hard to be science-y, or like someone that wears a fedora and says m'lady. None of these are effective ways to present yourself.

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 No.6324

Cool! I'm aware of those connotations, I just didn't consider that it would have similar associations here.

I was wrong. It's used (male/female) frequently in cultures I interact with.

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 No.6325

Take up dance. Git gud.

The type of women you are interested in should guide the sort of dance you take up. Blues, West Coast Swing, and Fusion are good general options. East Coast Swing and Lindy if you like really cheerful women who dress in bright colors. Argentine Tango if you're interested in slightly older and/or Latin women (varies by location). Traditional English/Irish dances if you like nerdy girls with nerdy affect (note that there are many styles of English/Irish dance, and nerdishness, gender ratios, and ages vary a great deal between them). Traditional Jewish dances if you like men over the age of fifty.

Most weekly dances have lessons before; go to these for at least six months. It will be a year or so before you're good enough for it to be attractive to regulars there (less if you shell out for some private lessons, though don't bother for at least a few months), but you'll be better than newbies pretty quick. Just be friendly to them. Don't hit on anyone who's better than you are until you're at least decent at the style of dance.

Gender ratio varies widely by type of dance. If it's less than 60/40 men/women, you're probably fine. If it's much more, find another dance venue. If several venues for the same dance have the same issue, pick another style. (Some of the skill, especially posture, will carry over; it isn't a total loss to switch.)

You'll get lots of practice talking to women in non-adversarial settings. You don't have to talk much. You'll get better posture and be more attractive everywhere. Once you get good, you'll get some of that confidence which comes from being good at things.

Source: me, several other rationalists. One conflicting report, but I think that's mostly a problem with Seattle. Don't live in Seattle.

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 No.12041

>>6319

I agree, we should coordinate to call "females" femoids.

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 No.12047

File: fbf33e388361881⋯.png (86.81 KB,614x609,614:609,1505698805596.png)

Step #1: Learn to code and get a six figure job.

https://www.appacademy.io

Step #2: Study married game and git gud.

https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2010/11/19/game-resources-for-marriage/

Step #3: Go to east Asia and get a qt3.14 oriental, submissive gf.

http://www.loveme.com

Any questions?

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 No.12048

>>12047

Submissive GFs are for betas.

The alpha ideal is to find a wild horse and tame it, only a massive degenerate would go after the meekest horse-like livestock they can find and (with its permission!), play alpha.

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 No.12055

>>12048

If you feel the need for signalling your superiority by choosing the hard, less pleasurable route, go ahead.

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 No.12060

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 No.12064

just get a tulpa

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 No.12078

>But what else did lesswrong have to offer? Not a damn thing. Some sad self help nonsense. I was weak, lonely, couldn’t get laid. The lesswrong community has three interventions for this: 1. Become queer. 2. Renounce sexuality (see scott Alexander) 3. Extreme Polyandry

>… To all the rationalists, let me offer you a fourth intervention for your loneliness:

>Lift some fucking weights. Read the presentation of self in every day life by Irving goffman. Eat truckloads of chicken, beef, and fish. Look people in the eyes when you talk to them. Buy some nicer clothes. Learn the small talk social protocols of normies, they are simple.

>Mirrors and copulation are abominable, for they increase the number of mankind. Look in the mirror, throw out your priors, and you will find copulation easier

https://twitter.com/duckevenfree1/status/998215602148859907

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Presentation_of_Self_in_Everyday_Life

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 No.12079

>>12078

>But what else did lesswrong have to offer? Not a damn thing. Some sad self help nonsense. I was weak, lonely, couldn’t get laid. The lesswrong community has three interventions for this: 1. Become queer. 2. Renounce sexuality (see scott Alexander) 3. Extreme Polyandry

Wow so you mean he looked at other people who are getting laid and did the same thing in order to get laid and acutally got laid ? Does it never occur to normies like this social bot that people optimize for different thing emotionally or sexually ?

His whole phrasing reeks of human desperation. I've talked with mentally ill incels on various forums and imageboards that have more self respect.

That being said the book he recommends doesn't sound too bad. Anyone read it ?

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 No.12081

>>12079

>Does it never occur to normies like this social bot that people optimize for different thing emotionally or sexually ?

This is not a generous or thoughtful interpretation of what he said, is it? It seems like he meant that LessWrong overemphasizes nonstandard solutions to the gf problem whereas most male nerds would get more utility out of a standard solution.

>I've talked with mentally ill incels on various forums and imageboards that have more self respect.

Are you saying that you must lack self-respect to try to get a gf in a relatively normalfag way?

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 No.12082

>>12064

I think the usual LW use of tulpas is for wise advisors with different perspectives, e.g. a Quirrel tulpa.

Not saying you can't combine that with a waifu tulpa, but there's a conflict.

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 No.12083

>>12082

>the usual LW use of tulpas

Is this a thing?

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 No.12085

>>12081

>Are you saying that you must lack self-respect to try to get a gf in a relatively normalfag way?

No.

I know I started out confrontationally.Let me try to put this apart so I can safely say that I did my best.

First of all, how do you follow this:

>They were good! Insightful. I have extremely the personality traits of a lesswrong rationalist.

with this:

>But what else did lesswrong have to offer? Not a damn thing. Some sad self help nonsense.

and then this

> I was weak, lonely, couldn’t get laid.

I infer that he got the message but not the substance. So many people read the sequences and think they are mostly great and then look at the lesswrong community and ask themselves what went wrong.

>For some reason the majority of the community seems to be recommending these alternative fornicating opportunities which I don't like. Why is that ? etc. Why am I assuming these new models of thought are all encompasing and that the community sexual preferences are directly correlated ?

or in shitspeak:

>dude priming lmao

>you know that feeling that you have when you think that other people know the secret and you don't

>I think I'm finally grasping it a little

>feels great

>time passes

>why am I still lonely and weak

and yes I am projecting on the second one. There is no shortage of weak lonely males on the internet. Only healthy relationships solve this.

>So I started looking for truth in other places.

you don't get laid so you start looking for "truth" again, come on

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 No.12086

https://nishikiprestige.wordpress.com/2017/10/09/the-sociopath-how-to-find-a-wife/

The core of it is: Don't be yourself. You don't even like yourself. Fake being a better person until it becomes easier than being you. Pussy will follow in short order.

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 No.12087

>>12086

>Don't be yourself

Related: http://the1585.com/imnicemen.htm

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 No.12091

>>12083

yeah, actually. both in terms of people who already have tulpas gravitating towards the hyper-degenerate areas of rat tumblr and tumblr rats slowly deciding making tulpas is actually a good idea.

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 No.12098

https://thingofthings.wordpress.com/2018/05/25/models-a-summary/amp/

Based DFC-chan dropping thread-relevant knowledge.

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 No.12102

>>12098

>Chateau Ozie

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 No.12137

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 No.12152

File: 1213c39d949037d⋯.jpg (131.38 KB,720x576,5:4,girls-mormon-missionaries.jpg)

1. Convert to Mormonism.

2. Go on a mission.

3. Return and marry an Aryan goddess.

4. Have 6 children.

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 No.12154

>>12152

Did they sort by attractivity on purpose?

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 No.12156

>>12154

They are unsorted.

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 No.12157

>>12154

What the hell are you talking about, there's a negress in the middle

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