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/ratanon/ - Rationalists Anonymous

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 No.14954

Woke journalists and activists openly target the rationalist community, and hijack EA with an official blessing from many prominent representatives of the movement. It goes way beyond being welcoming to leftist or socially progressive perspectives (they already dominate), the movement is being dismantled by the intersectional cult and power plays. I genuinely worry about all the important causes and the future of humanity… I don't want them to be ruined by bad people and a nonsensical, divisive, self-contradictory narrative.

Any important information or leaks/rumors I should be aware of?

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 No.14955

File: 5db4d0100700769⋯.png (2.55 MB,2228x1724,557:431,voxplaining_coronavirus.png)

lol, it seems that Ezra Klein (now affiliated with New York Times) was among the main EA conference speakers, one year after Vox voxplained COVID-19 and a month after NYT published a hit piece on Scott

> create JournoList (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JournoList)

> write a one-sided book on why America is polarized (https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/book-review-why-were-polarized)

> claim an interest in doing the most good while trying to make it synonymous with the American upper-class progressivism; bash the rationalists who largely gave rise to EA

> ???

> profit

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 No.14957

File: a55b6ad6917ced3⋯.png (187.63 KB,609x717,203:239,totalitarian_force.png)

Ted Kaczynski tried to warn us

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 No.14958

>>14957

I'm not a fan of anarcho-primitivist or far-right alternatives, but this specific description quite accurately describes the activist ethos.

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 No.14959

File: 02444518879f7e1⋯.jpeg (87.47 KB,720x400,9:5,MIRI.jpeg)

What EA organizations are being targeted the most? Are any of the AI organizations like MIRI pozzed yet?

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 No.14960

>>14959

Animal welfare and climate change have been largely compromised for many years, which is sad given the importance of the field. Community building started well, but now is full of patronizing curators and activist types (think BLM or Extinction Rebellion).

Woke proselytizers obviously go after all cause areas, but causes requiring stronger skills are more immune to hijacking - though not entirely resilient, see: https://equitablemath.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11/1_STRIDE1.pdf

I worry about all the noble EAs and the movement's fate. :(

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 No.14961

File: c2376274c5d5e42⋯.jpg (65.5 KB,640x641,640:641,moral_circle_expansion.jpg)

>>14960

What about moral circle expansion? I could see it potentially being hijacked by the SJW left in the sense of "White men need to expand their moral circle to care more about POC, instead of caring about other white people", or something like that.

Also relevant:

https://staffanspersonalityblog.wordpress.com/2014/09/02/the-myth-of-the-expanding-circle-or-you-cant-learn-how-to-be-an-english-vegetarian/

https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/BY8gXSpGijypbGitT/why-i-prioritize-moral-circle-expansion-over-artificial

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 No.14962

>>14961

Guess what? Some of them already started ruining the beautiful concept of universal compassion by framing it as a "step forward from caring only about these evil straight white men" (despite the fact that men have a lower ingroup bias than women, whites have the lowest ingroup bias of all ethnic groups, and liberal whites are the only ethnic group with a negative ingroup bias!): https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/the-end-of-animal-farming-argues-against-factory-farming

Regarding "EA was founded by white men, because they're privileged and build on the oppression of other groups": https://8kun.top/ratanon/res/14806.html#q14867

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