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No.11223
Has anyone succesfully stopped liking traps and went from a state of considering them attractive to the opposite ?
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No.11225
What do you mean by liking? I've fapped to traps a handful of times but usually don't find them attractive, does that count or are you asking exclusive homos?
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No.11226
>>11223
Why do you want to stop liking something that you like?
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No.11231
>>11223
>ever liking trannies
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No.11233
>>11223
<liking /co/'s trap of the month
Alright taste.
>>11231
Please do not confuse traps with trannies.
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No.11234
>>11226
Since I developed a taste for crossdressing twinks I've stopped paying as much attention to women and now I think exclusively about feminized men while not really being attracted to men in general.
The ratio between women I find myself attracted to and femnized men which I consider passable from a glace is ginormous. Also there's the matter of getting them inside womenly clothes and them actually wanting the dick/being gay.
That being said my relationship with a crossdressing man ended recently and I find myself aware of the fact that I don't want to go back to being in a relationship with a woman except in extreme cases ( le soul mate meme, everything in comon, etc )
>>11233
It was just the image that made me aware of my issue.
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No.11235
>>11234
Okay, let's try to untangle what is going on in your love life. It sounds like you are bi and aroused by your partner's femininity and dominating them. Maybe the women around you are not feminine enough and the guys can deliver a simulacrum of the femininity that you crave? Confidence is another issue to consider. Do you want to be a traditionally dominant man but feel anxious with a woman? Do you have a hard time being assertive with women? Feminized men send a less ambiguous signal as to what they want here.
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No.11237
>>11235
>and dominating them.
I wouldn't really use that word. Dominating as in ?
>Maybe the women around you are not feminine enough
Most women I see take feminity for granted. "ohh of course I'm feminine I'm a woman, I'll just put some make up on"
>and the guys can deliver a simulacrum of the femininity that you crave?
I really appreciate the effort.I am fully able to comprehend the base state of a man and the result.
>Confidence is another issue to consider. Do you want to be a traditionally dominant man but feel anxious with a woman?
Not really.
>Do you have a hard time being assertive with women?
No, but yes it feels sometimes forced.
>Feminized men send a less ambiguous signal as to what they want here.
I kind of agree with this. It's also the fact that I know how a dick and prostate feels. I am able to empathise more easely as with women I will never be able to know how penetration feels (vaginal or anal) for them or how sensitive is their clit.
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No.11238
>>11237
>Dominating as in ?
Being the driving force in the relationship. Taking charge and making decisions. Expecting a degree of nonreciprocal compliance and subordination from your partner.
>Most women I see take feminity for granted.
So they're feminine to your satisfaction? Or does it just not matter as much to you when it's a woman and there isn't a deliberate effort involved?
>will never be able to know how penetration feels (vaginal or anal) for them or how sensitive is their clit
Interesting. This is just me speculating with no data, but I think heterosexual men generally aren't interested in attaining this kind of empathy except inasmuch as it makes them better lovers. They enjoy women as others, as different creatures from themselves, and this difference is attractive to them, not something to be overcome.
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No.11240
>>11223
Traps are far superior to women, only artificial wombs are further needed to completely obsolesce the female race.
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No.11241
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No.11245
>>11238
>Being the driving force in the relationship. Taking charge and making decisions. Expecting a degree of nonreciprocal compliance and subordination from your partner.
I don't feel that need except in emergency cases like when it's life threatening (only happened once so far in my entire life) or the decision put forward by my partner is really really bad.
>So they're feminine to your satisfaction?Or does it just not matter as much to you when it's a woman and there isn't a deliberate effort involved?
Brainlet here. Can you please rephrase ? I mean provided I don't find women feminine to my satisfaction, it does not matter as much when there isn't a deliberate effort involved in their femininity ?
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No.11246
>>11245
>Can you please rephrase ?
Does it matter to you romantically and sexually if a woman is feminine or do you only value femininity in men? A related question is, suppose a woman you know and find somewhat attractive revealed to you she was actually a man; would you become more attracted to her?
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No.11247
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No.11254
Meet a few of the creatures that want to be "traps", and just look at them for a few minutes.
You'll never get hard again.
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No.11256
>>11246
>Does it matter to you romantically and sexually if a woman is feminine or do you only value femininity in men?
The word feminine has come up too much and I feel like I need to clarify something in order for this discussion not to be in vain.
I feel like I'm not expecting the same feminine behaviour out of men and women.
For women it's more of a mother-type femininity and for men it's more of a daughter-type femininity.I also expect that type of feminity from men only when we are intimate while for women I practically expect it all the time.
I value feminity in both women and men but there is a somewhat difference of what I want.
I can say I value feminity in men more because that brand is harder to come across.
>A related question is, suppose a woman you know and find somewhat attractive revealed to you she was actually a man; would you become more attracted to her?
This has never happened to me and I don't know how to respond.
There was one case a week or so ago when I saw a woman which appeared to have an adam's apple and basically had no breasts and I thought to myself "Man this chick practically looks like a man, I wonder if she has problems getting a partner" but after a few seconds it dawned on me that it might have a dick and that immediately got me interested since the ammount of exposed feminity while not enough for a woman was enough for a man ( he/she was practically passabl | I have a trained eye )
Then again I don't find myself more attracted to women I've been in the past with if I imagine they had a dick. It's actually a turn off if I think of my first girlfriend having a penis instead of a vagina.
>>11247
I'm not against me crossdressing.I would do it specifically to aid my empathy.
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No.11257
>>11254
It doesn't matter what they want to be it matters how I perceive them. For example I''m not attracted to the individual you posted.
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No.11270
>>11256
Here are my conclusions, anon. Keep in mind that this is an imagineboard, there is limited information and I am not a licensed psychologist, etc.
I think you are bisexual and desire a deep emotional connection and mutual understanding with your partner. That you mention soul mates as a possibly (even if sarcastically) and would cross-dress for the sake of empathy is evidence of this. You are not dominant as I thought at first, but want yourself and your loved to treat each other as equals. The desire for mutual understanding is what is driving you away from women. If you want to enjoy relationships with women more, you should realize that this kind of transparency is unattractive to women. It is therefore not a good goal to strive towards in a heterosexual relationship. Try to find other thing to enjoy about relationships with women. For example, treat your relationship as a piece performance art, not an exercise in sincerity. Pick a role that exaggerates your natural inclinations, like "macho" or "artistic type", and see if you enjoy yourself more than you do with a sincere approach. Go for being lusted after, adored or something else rather than understood.
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No.11271
>>11270
>yourself and your loved
I meant "yourself and your lover"
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No.11272
>>11270
Nothing more submissive than acting the female fantasy against your own desires, "machos" and "artistic types" are cringeworthy.
If women are turned off by mutual understanding, empathy, etc. all the more reason for sticking to traps. Have some standards ffs.
The only good (ie. anime-like) women I've seen were rural ones living in the middle of nowhere, very different from your urbanite, neurotic, wasted, petty neo-whores.
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No.11273
>>11272
>Have some standards ffs.
I'd rather have some children.
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No.11281
>>11270
I honestly thank you for your input. I don't really get the chance to expose this kind of stuff in real life and even if you did not have a lot of information to go on, I'm glad that you responded.
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No.11282
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No.11283
>>11282
*reverse tips fedora
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No.11285
>>11281
You're welcome, anon. I hope it is helpful. I would love to read how things were working out for you in six months.
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No.14852
I am curious how OP's love quest went from here.
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