No.10265 [View All]
Are you a "transition so yudkowsky can paddle you" rationalist or a "transition so you can cuddle with scott" rationalist?
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No.12790
>>12789
When in doubt, bet on biology.
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No.12803
>>12789
>The Year of Our Lord 2018
>Still thinking socialization is a possibility
Fucking casual.
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No.13078
>>12789
People vs things biological spectrum is a thing.
>estrogenlets
Kek femoid brainlets will never experience true superiority of the state-of-art mind. AMABs should appropriate all desirable features from femoids via hormones while keeping their superior minds, then throw the worthless femoid into the trash it belongs to.
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No.13079
>>12626
> it is the "socially dominant" part. Typically, social dominance is associated with masculinity.
Isn't it associated with landwhale SJW HRs by now?
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No.13080
>>12660
fin doesn't improve skin
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No.13082
>>13078
This post literally made me erect. I am so messed up.
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No.13089
>>13080
true. but estrogen does
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No.13097
>>13082
I dislike AGPs and I want to see more gayboi rationalinsts.
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No.13099
>>13097
Maybe I'm AGP, but I was commenting from a seme, not an uke perspective.
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No.13100
>>13089
It depends on whether your values include "softer skin is better skin".
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No.13302
Most men, if they were offered the ability to transform into a girl when they wanted, would accept just to masturbate to themselves in the mirror. At least I think so. Am I typical minding?
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No.13303
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No.13304
>>13302
Not quite. Most guys are apparently sufficiently low openness that when presented, genuinely, with the prospect of being a woman it freaks them out.
According to stan grof, the third most common source of panic during an lsd therapy session is the fear of becoming homosexual. “It is usually initiated by feelings of very authentic identification with representatives of the opposite sex. A male subject can experience not only an authentic female body image, but a very genuine sense of what it feels like to be pregnant, to deliver a child, or to have a vaginal and clitoral orgasm.”
Also if you became a woman you'd jack it to yourself? A full-flesh woman and you're gonna touch in the mirror? Seriously?
Go get banged anon what kind of perverse agp fantasy is this lol.
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No.13312
>>13304
Interesting. It is easy to forgot how much openness varies when you mostly deal with people who are +1 SD and up. What is the typical rationalist's Big Five profile?
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No.13316
>>13302
I think it's a somewhat pervasive fantasy, but I don't think most people have it, and I don't think most of the people that do have it would accept it.
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No.13317
>>13312
iirc high openness and neuroticism and incredibly low agreeableness
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No.13318
>>13304
>third most common source of panic during an lsd therapy session
Let me try to guess the first two - fear of dying and fear of going insane/never coming down?
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No.13319
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No.13320
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No.13323
>>13304
Not that anon, but tried getting banged.
Kept wanting to be her instead.
Did you know you can 'orgasm' with male genitals and never feel good about it? Typical mind crap. If you've thought about it for years, and sex doesn't feel like heaven then chop it off and be done with it.
Now I have tits and real sexual pleasure.
I feel like a real human finally.
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No.13324
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No.13328
>>13320
This is a pretty good edit, Anon. Did you make it?
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No.13329
How likely is the endocrine disruption (the maybe-not-literally-plastic) theory of transsexuality?
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No.13331
>>13328
no, i just posted it here. got it from a chatroom
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No.13439
>>13302
What's the downside to accepting this? Even if you never use it having the ability doesn't affect your life negatively at all.
Would not masturbate to myself but would def explore basic physical sensations and stuff and it would be fun to try topping/domming someone as a girl.
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No.13448
>>12437
>>12439
Evidence for SocialJusticeWizard's theory.
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No.13451
>>13448
>"mouthfeel" shirt
criiiiiinnge
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No.13510
>>13448
I'm new to this stuff. The catch here is that they are all males, right?
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No.13511
>>13510
Oh yes! Most certainly.
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No.13512
Do male-attracted trannies shit test their partners? Are they hypergamous?
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No.13513
>>13511
There is some disagreement about the top one.
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No.13516
>>13451
I can't tell if it's dom or sub signaling.
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No.13783
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No.13866
>>10265
i dont like rationalism since people who call themselves rationalists are supporting human rights and other shit
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No.13991
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No.13993
>>13991
>only comparing straight and gay trans women
I feel like there's missing information here.
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No.14413
>>10265 (OP)
<not a "transition so you can be a superior being" rationalist
>Transsexualism is a form of self-improvement. We are biologically male, or at least, we begin that way. We are attracted to women, but love women and femininity beyond simple sexual attraction. We modify our bodies using modern pharmacology (and sometimes surgery) to adopt the desirable traits of women, in specific, secondary sexual characteristics, while preserving those traits of men that are worth preserving. The sheer intelligence of men, the tact of a woman; the tall and slender body of a man, the graceful features of a woman; the courage of a man, the peacefulness of a woman; the stoicism of a man, the empathy of a woman. Obsolete no more, by means of transsexual transitioning, the now estrogenized male has upgraded herself to the best of both sexes and thus overcomes the weaknesses of both male and female.
https://17beta.top/en/philosophy
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No.14505
Are you a "transition so you can be the tragic romantic figure of our time" postrationalist?
https://endchan.net/ratanon/res/2889.html#6755
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No.14507
>>14505
I'm not desensitized enough to their appearance to empathize with them on more than an intellectual level. There's something about their disguised masculinity that disgusts me, something monstrous about their square jaws and the set of their shoulders, the ill-fitting party dresses. Like a glimpse of an open sore beneath the bandages, or the raw stink of an open sewer on a blue-skied summer afternoon - the underbrain is afraid and you strain to be polite.
If I'd been born a decade later, I'm sure I would have grown up around enough positive examples of trans women to feel comfortable in their presence. Maybe if I dropped everything and moved to San Fransisco I'd cure myself via immersion therapy.
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No.14508
>>14507
The two unfortunate druggies in the video are making no attempt to look feminine besides taking hormones and putting on a dress. The contrast between their look, their behavior and their clothes is what makes it so strange and sad to watch.
>There's something about their disguised masculinity that disgusts me
Do you mean transwomen in general? Maybe you are just very straight with no GAMP. Supposed straight men have complained on 4chan's /lgbt/ about the intermittent disgust they felt for their trans girlfriend's male features. On the other hand, some bisexuals and even gays say that to them transwomen are attractive as basically twinks++.
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No.14842
Why is 4chan so obsessed with trannies?
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No.14843
>>14505
> If every self story has a genre, then rationalists live in a Greek tragedy. Tragedy is the genre that grapples directly with necessity. There is a misconception that tragedy is defined by a protagonist who is punished for their arrogance, this is not so. The tragic protagonist is defined by their refusal of necessity, which might be caused by arrogance but could also be religious belief or relentless determination.
> A rationalist is a particular kind of tragic hero, and perhaps an odd one. In accepting the rules of nature they're defined by the internalization of necessity. Without it, rigorous scientific beliefs are impossible; conclusions don't have to follow from their premises so you can believe whatever you want. Yet to pursue goals like immortality or galactic conquest, you must refuse necessity. The rationalist says "I may not know exactly how these goals are to be accomplished, but I know that physics allows them so I will continue to act as though they are possible."
https://www.liberaugmen.com/#greek-tragedy
> The real reason LW attracts so many trans girls is that the trans woman is a tragic figure in the Greek sense. They refuse the ‘necessity’ of their assigned birth gender, even in the face of extreme social pressure to conform.
> And the actual trait being selected on which produces so many trans people is the refusal of necessity.
> “Your lot in life was cast the moment you were born,” sings the Chorus “you look like a boy to me so a boy you must be.”
> “No,” says the protagonist “I will fix this even if it kills me.”
And it often does.
>
> Thus begins their down-going.
https://extropian.net/notice/9obGCdlz681XfZJRce
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No.14844
>>14842
If I remember correctly, this ContraPoints video sheds some light on the connection between 4chan and trannies, but it's been a while since I watched it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD2briZ6fB0
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No.14874
>>10286
(Some beings you would not expect being here still tread these grounds. They see yours and other AGPs and your influence on our PR. They think you will bring us all down by your insane exploitation of the niche this society charitably provides for you for now).
To other readers:
I hope you look at these MRI papers again and see for yourself which biogender better represents the architecture of your brain.
That being said, I think the real test for womanhood is a distinct feeling of cold venomous disgust for other women, seeing them as competitors for limited males and other resources. If you read female forums (real ones, not AGP roleplay dens) and listen to what they have to say in private, you will get these vibes.
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No.14885
>>14874
>They think you will bring us all down by your insane exploitation of the niche this society charitably provides for you for now
who is "us"? do you expect tranny genocide?
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No.14937
>>14874
imagine seeing males as a limited resources! how ugly do you have to be to not drown in dick ROFLMAOL
> those MRI papers
oh, you mean like the one that showed that trans brains TAKE the form of the target gender AFTER 6 MONTHS on hormones?
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No.14980
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No.14989
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No.14990
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No.14992
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