No.68943
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No.68947
I don't worship my wife and I've been with her for 6 years.
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No.68948
He sounds like a frustrated ex-waifufag projecting harder than a drive-in movie theater.
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No.68950
What they're describing is an emotional dependency. In this situation the waifuist is dependent on their waifu as their sole source of happiness and passion to live. This is a poor situation to be in; it is not fond feelings or warmth that dominates the relationship but sporadic emotional highs of self esteem and ecstasy followed by a crash back down to earth. For an emotionally healthy waifuist, their waifu is an important compliment to their life; not the sole source of it. This situation is hardly unique to waifuism; people do form dependencies on others and it is just as unhealthy.
>because this self-improvement is felt as a great boon, it has the feeling of a moral duty that one must be in a sense "grateful" to the waifu.
Do you see the mindset here? Not heartfelt appreciation but an obligation borne of guilt and inadequacy. Their happiness and self esteem is fading. Their love for their waifu is the source of those feelings. So to them, therefore, their love of their waifu is fading; even though they want to be happy and want to love their waifu. Life is a source of negative emotion, whether you want it to be or not. It is also a source of positive emotion and that is from where you must balance the negatives.
>So in loving the waifu, they are loving the disfigured image they catch of themselves through the distorting fun-house mirror of anime.
With low self esteem I can see how that might be possible. But it would be incredibly lazy to assume this every time you encounter a waifuist with a troubled mindset.
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No.68954
>>68943
The only thing he's remotely right about is the sort of 'new relationship high' he describes, and how polyfags and constant switchers may keep getting new 'waifus' to subconsciously try and recreate that high. But all this other stuff about worshipping her like an idol, or it being some sort of selfish act is nonsense.
This kind of drivel is why I never really visit /christian/ despite being a fairly committed believer. I've always gotten the impression that they're a bunch of weirdos, tbh.
>>68948
He actually outright admits as much in the thread that's from.
>>68947
Same here, I've never worshipped Ruby at all in the almost two years I've been with her.
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No.68956
>>68943
>Is he right?
Just a few parts of it, like the improvement part, but the rest fits better in the definition of a hug blanket or a seasonal fag rather than an actual waifufag. Besides this sort of behavior happens in real relationships too.
I'm not very experienced in waifuism but some of the people i met hardly fits in that definition, take the people that has been in a relationship for almost a decade for example. Basically if you're not emotionally fucked then you can have a normal relationship with your waifu.
Now i wonder who's behind that post, seems like the pseudo-intellectual who pretends to be a scholar on a subject he doesn't fully know about.
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No.68957
This just describes how a person who is poorly equipped for a relationship and depends on another too much approaches any relationship - 2D or 3D. Pure nonsense to attribute this to waifuism as a whole.
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No.68964
>>68954
>This kind of drivel is why I never really visit /christian/ despite being a fairly committed believer
How do you harmonize Christianity and waifuism?
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No.68965
>>68964
Where is the conflict?
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No.68966
just sounds like coping to me
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No.68967
>>68965
This. There isn't really any sort of meaningful conflict between the two.
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No.68968
>>68965
>>68967
What about the command to go forth and multiply?
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No.68969
>>68968
If you're going by Old Testament commands, you might as well include not wearing garments of mixed fibers, not eating pork, etc.
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No.68970
>>68968
Er… a more eloquent way to say what I was trying to convey here
>>68969
That command was given when Earth's population was 2, not over 7 billion. Not everything should be taken so literally.
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No.68971
>>68970
>That command was given when Earth's population was 2, not over 7 billion. Not everything should be taken so literally
This, this command was given specifically to Adam and Eve when the earth had basically nobody else on it. Notice that this command isn't factored in at all in New Testament passages discussing marriage.
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No.68989
>He compares brony freaks to waifufags
he has no idea what he is ranting about.
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No.68997
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No.69004
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No.69009
>>68943
I'd say he's wrong, he can only really speak for himself. I've never seen Hisui as an idol to worship; she's imperfect like anyone else. She's my waifu, the fictional character I love, not my religion.
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No.69012
>>68943
I can't really see myself worshipping Marisa. Even if I think she's an embodiment of my ideals, I also see a bit of myself in her, as well as I see some personality problems on her that I certainly don't want to emulate. I also think I could teach her a few things, and help her in my own way. I am, after all, still the man of the relationship, so I have to still show a mark or sign of strength that she doesn't have.
In other words, I want for us to complement each other and also be the counterweight to each other. I can't really totally see her as a replacement of what see myself, nor could I worship her as a deity: That would be counterproductive. And also, I don't see sexually interacting with her as "defiling" her, but rather a way of being more closer and romantic. After all, she's a woman with instinctual wants, right?
In other words, that explanation falls apart because my relationship with Marisa isn't like that.
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No.69014
>>69012
That's pretty spot on.
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No.69015
>>69012
Eh, this. Our relationship is the 'we complement each other' kind too, so no I won't worship her. She might be my girl, but Meiling is not perfect. She tends to act before thinking for example, and so on. We both have positive and negative traits that balance when we are together, or at least they try to. Worshipping her would be like rising her to a goodess to me, and that's not true.
She is just the girl I'm in love with, not someone to idolise.
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No.69018
>>69012
>she's a woman with instinctual wants, right?
No, she's a fictional character
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No.69019
>>69018
I thought we established this already, so what's the point of telling us this?
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No.69069
Ah yes. Seen this before; you love [anyone or anything] and it's suddenly worship and idolatry, particularly if the thing in question isn't tangible. Love, even adoration, is not worship. This seems to be a common trend with OP's pic and their ilk since he pretty much described crazy fundies (not every religious person, you know the type). >>68948 hit the nail on the head with the projection thing. He's taking an extremely broad, general topic and range of behaviors then choosing to stick them on waifus specifically for… some reason.
I don't see it nearly as often in other places, though I think that has to do with the fanatical, borderline-unhealthy devotion to their chosen deity these types exhibit more than anything. They identify with their god to the point where, if you say anything bad about them you can actually cause measurable negative reactions in the brain that equate with social ostracization, rejection, and even physical pain. It's such a big part of their life and identity, and they lean on it so heavily, that anything that threatens or challenges it is interpreted by the brain as a personal attack. This is accompanied by the traditional reactions to such negative stimuli, like defensive behaviors and aggression. They want to keep leaning on their dependency despite the bruise. Sound familiar? Whether the subject in question is a human being, an animal, your waifu, or your god, it's not a description of anything stable or healthy. It's interesting to watch, but I do wish people stuck in ruts like OP's pic described would get help so they can be happier and healthier.
>>68950
>What they're describing is an emotional dependency. In this situation the waifuist is dependent on their waifu as their sole source of happiness and passion to live. This is a poor situation to be in; it is not fond feelings or warmth that dominates the relationship but sporadic emotional highs of self esteem and ecstasy followed by a crash back down to earth.
This post gets it. Your waifu is the person you love and care about, and keep a relationship with, made up of support and give-and-take. In other words, caring about and looking after each other, and making compromises when necessary. Just treating them like a drug for a high when you feel withdrawal isn't healthy. Just as love is not worship, mania is also not ludus.
For fun, I'd also like to bring up self-assertive vs self-transcending emotions/behaviors in humans, and how he seems to… I dunno, sort of grasp that they exist, but doesn't realize that they do have categories that don't really work together in this scenario. Self-assertive behavior and self-transcendent behavior don't really go hand-in-hand the way he describes on the individual level that waifuism occurs at. It conflicts too much, unless it's in an unhealthy place like he chose to present. In addition, I'd like to say that as much as he bandies about "selfish" and "self-focused" as though it were negative, selfish isn't inherently a bad thing and correct application leads to a healthy person. On the same note, it's also the selfless times where people act on behalf of another party (spouse, country, family, religion), that true large-scale atrocities occur so the answer isn't to pile all of your eggs in the selflessness basket either. All of one or another isn't a good thing.
tl;dr: Unhealthy relationships and dangerous instability are bad no matter who or what you are in a relationship with. That's all you can really take away from OP's pic as useful or valid, waifu or not.
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No.69142
He's describing everyone on 2DL
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