No.3290
New thread because old thread reached bump limit.
old thread: http://8ch.net/loomis/res/1588.html
the shadows are really hard. it's amazing how the original artist was able to draw the shadows and other body parts with great detail.
I'm not sure what to do. should I continue with this or should I start reading someother book. I would like learn how to draw properly but I'm not sure if doing this will make me better at drawing. I think I am not learning how to draw the anatomy/body parts of the human body by doing this. I'm not sure what I am even or meant to be doing anymore.
please help.
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No.3291
This time i am ready as fuck
i will follow loomis book from the beginning to the end and post Before and After
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No.3292
>>3291
god speed family man
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No.3295
did thsi today. I thnk I am getting used to this.
I winder if this is helping me with my shaky hands. shadows are still hard to do.
after doing some of these draiwings I was supprised by how many artists use stright line to draw their drawints. I guess it dosen't always have to be curves.
I'm thinking of relearning anatomy again or continuing with this book.
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No.3296
>>3295
Maybe you should continue with this book as far as you can take it. I can tell you've improved your observational drawing skills quite a bit-though you probably won't be able to easily get a result when it comes to the shadows and so on because you're working digitally. I think the important thing for now might be for you to get the lines and contours as accurately as you can.
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No.3302
I've been watching Marshall Vandruff's video lessons on perspective. This shit's a fucking game-changer. I had read D'Amelio's book a long time ago but I just realized the knowledge I gained was never applied correctly to my drawings.
I've decided to git gud at perspective before I keep practicing my figure drawing, so I'll finish what's left of the lessons and do the letter on a ball exercises he said.
Here's a torrent to his lessons if anyone feels like they need it, I'll be seeding for a while with my shit internet though, so prepare to wait
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:2JMDKKUDNCGD4E7IBEZJRVGNVLBCAVBC&dn=Draw123.com%20-%20Perspective%20Series%2012&tr=http%3a%2f%2fbt2.t-ru.org%2fann%3fmagnet
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No.3303
I did several pages of the book today and I'm starting to get board of it. but I have nothing that I want to draw. I just want to get better. I think I will do at least one page a day from now so that I don't get board of doing this and just dropping this book. I really like how the left feet on the "feet lean" came out.
I would really like to practive more of the skull girl art style but I'm just so bad that I don't think I will be able to learn anything. god damit.
>>3296
okay I will concentrate on that.
>>3302
downloading now. should be done buy tonight. thanks fam.
is their anyother book/tuts that loomis suggests that I should have a look at?
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No.3308
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOcvarqm4G0
After watching this video I tried using his sketching method to draw some things. didn't turn out too well but I think it's better then before. probably? I'm thinkng of re-learning anatomy, prespective and Volume. the basics.
also I am still drawing from that dook. at least one page a day.
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No.3331
started doing figure drawings again using what I learn't does it look better then before? (probably not)
>>3111
are you still practicing your art /loomis/?
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No.3336
my figure drawing looks flat. despite taking about 1-2 hours to draw.
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No.3338
>>3331
>are you still practicing your art /loomis/?
Yeah man, still a long ways to go on my end
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No.3344
>>3331
I started drawing figures with clothes on recently. Left is from reference and right is from imagination. Sorry about the shit image quality and my amazing laziness when it comes to drawing hands though
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No.3345
>>3344
Keep practicing bud
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No.3346
started to use the defult pen brush to do my line drawing but the shadows are hard to draw. I think I will find a different style o shadow to do the lighter tone.
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No.3444
>>3336
Do more gestures.
Ten minutes 30 second gestures. 10 minutes 1 minute gestures. Half an hour of five minute gestures. Half an hour of ten minutes. Then a couple of 20 minute gestures.
Warm ups are important
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No.3445
>>3444
I think he's on the right path trying to improve his observational drawing first. It is among the single most important fundamental skills. We've been pulling this guy left and right for quite some time now. He needs to learn how to 'see' and these bargue plates are probably the way to go (even if he's not quite nailing them).
>he definitely needs to figure out brushes though. I think a few of us are in that boat as well
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No.3451
hey!
>>3444
I am doing gesture drawings these days about 20-40 min of them. I am also conutinuing with my drawings of "Charles Bargue - Drawing Course" I think I am at page 58 today. I also do the lines and circle drawings by peter han as a warm up.
>>3445
I hope I am staarting to get them.
honestly I can do more and I have the time to but I can't just focus my mind on it and end up procastinating in the end. I have to start loving drawing to get better or else I don't think I will get anywhere from this point on.
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No.3461
internet's going to go down in about 1 week for 4-6 weeks I think I will take this oppotunity to practice more drawing. what should I focus on to make my drawings slightly not shit? any scedual or drawing courses that I should do?
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No.3462
>>3461
Draw naked bodies and learn their proportions.
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No.3463
>>3462
thats good and all but I was more looking for books that you might want to recomend or short courses that you know that might help me in drawing.
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No.3466
>>3451
You're doing pretty well man. Just be mindful of all of those measuring techniques you've been informed of in the previous thread. For example, you can tell the height and angle of the top of his head is off simply by using "negative space".
>>3463
Make sure to download as much stuff from the MEGA file as possible. In particular nab "Keys to Drawing" (A good supplement to the Bargue plates you're doing now), "Fun with a Pencil" and "Figure Drawing: Design and Invention".
Also download and experiment with brush packs for krita like this one: http://www.davidrevoy.com/article319/krita-brushkit-v8-0
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No.3470
>>3466
thanks for that anythign else?
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No.3471
>>3470
also if you are to get on would you get a Large Intuos of huion. the Huion is a lot cheaper but you have to recharge the pen every now and then. but the Intous is much more expensive but I have the confort of knowing that I am buying a quality product with good support.
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No.3472
>>3471
the Huion Giano is much less expensive than the Intuos Large and despite that is in some ways the better product (better size-I prefer the hotkeys more, too). The only fault of the Huion is that the pen is marginally worse
>no tilt feature
>feels "light" in a bad way versus the Wacom
>no eraser (I think most people just press "e" anyway)
>needs to be charged a couple times a month).
I think for the money, the Huion is the best. Reliability and longevity is definitely an "unknown" currently, but you could almost buy 3 Huions for the price of a single Intuos Large so it's a tough call unless money is absolutely no issue.
https://www.amazon.com/Huion-Wireless-Graphic-Drawing-Surface/dp/B01CYCOYSU
https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Intuos-Touch-Tablet-PTH851/dp/B00EN27SMY
…It looks like you can get an Intuos4 Large for $300. Same dimensions as the Intuos 5 and Intuos Pro Large, that might not be a bad idea either.
https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Intuos4-Large-Pen-Tablet/dp/B001TUYU06/
wew!
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No.3475
>>3472
if thats the case then I will try to get the Huion then. too bad I can't use amazon tho, they don't deliver to Australia. so I think I will get it on Ebay and wait for about a month for the darn thing to arrive.
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No.3476
>>3475
You could order it factory direct (ignore the "tax service"). I imagine shipping from China to Aus isn't that bad as far as how long it takes (the shipping itself is $20.50 though)
https://www.huiontablet.com/huion-wh1409.html
The only problem with that is because they're a chinese company I'm not sure how their customer service is in case something goes wrong. When I purchased mine I was lucky enough to not have any problems but those kinds of things happen. I suppose Ebay is risky too.
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No.3486
>>3476
on a second thought I think I will hold off on buying it right now. I will get it when I am better at drawing and have more money. I was getting ahead of myself.
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No.3487
>>3485
>>3486
>too big
The size is just a buffer so that you can properly draw with your shoulder instead of your wrist, while still allowing you to use your wrist to make small marks and adjustments-much more precise. Also so that the lines and shapes you draw on the tablet will be displayed at a similar size on your monitor relative to the motion you make. It can't really be "too big" (unless it's actually bigger than your monitor, I guess!) as really it's just providing a similar function to a Cintiq (a 1:1 tablet/monitor ratio), just without the screen. It won't "make you better at drawing" necessarily (that's on you), but it is a tool that feels much more natural to draw on.
I personally think you should get it, man. If you don't like it you could probably sell it on Craigslist or Ebay for pretty close to what you buy it for. You've really soldiered on for a year on this board with that little thing you have now (what model was it again?) >$200 bucks really isn't that bad for something you're hopefully going to be using a lot of.
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No.3488
>>3487
I have a 1920x1080 monitor so I think I have the size for it. I just don't want to get it now because I don't think it's worth it yet. I think I need to draw and practice more often to justify the purchase. I will get a bigger tablet thats fore sure but I will get it when I might be good enough to make money from it. but until then I will hold off on it.
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No.3490
>>3488
>I think I need to draw and practice more often to justify the purchase. I will get a bigger tablet thats fore sure but I will get it when I might be good enough to make money from it. but until then I will hold off on it.
The unfortunate truth is that neither of us will probably be making money from our art for quite some time.
Because of that, I don't think that's the best way to look at it. It might be several years even under ideal conditions that such a thing will be possible. I think of it like an entertainment expense more than anything. I can go out to a nice restaurant or the movies or something like that and spend $20-$25 easy for an hour or two of entertainment, but considering I know I'm going to be drawing for pretty much at least an hour a day for years on end, having a decent piece of equipment for that is money well spent.
In fact I'm sure I've spent over $2000 on this kind of stuff (here's a picture of a Cintiq 12WX I own that belongs in a garbage can). I don't really regret having done so, either, because now I can tell people what I'd experienced and hopefully keep them from making the same mistakes I had.
Anyway man I don't want to push the issue too much, nor do I want to give you the false impression that this tablet will solve all of your struggles with digital painting. Just keep practicing with what you have if you'd like. There are far better artists than me that use far worse equipment.
This guy (http://genzoman.deviantart.com/) uses a Wacom Bamboo 4x5 supposedly (I think a similar model to what you use). It's possible to be very adept with less than stellar tools.
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No.3491
>>3490
yes that tablet is similer in size but not the sam I use this.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31w%2Bn-MSUuL._SX425_.jpg
I think what you said is true it will take me several years until I am good enough to start even making a dollor from my drawings. but I still think I should hold off on it for a while.
also if I am using a tablet this small does it matter if I keep doing the line and circle exercises by peter han? I think it might be because my tables are is so smal and I usually only use my wrist to draw. I also cant hold my pen like Proko does because the tip of the pen dosen't touch the tablet at that angle.
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No.3597
got my internt back faster then I thought.
when I draw a rough draft of a figure drawing it looks like it has form but when it's just the line art it looks flat. I'm not sure what I am doing wrong.
>>3490
also I got the huion tablet.
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No.3600
>>3597
It's because you're just drawing the contour (outline) of the image and a few of its forms with a uniform line weight.
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No.3601
>>3600
Come to think of it, that first image is actually a bad example because the "flat" drawing actually does have some tapering line-weight here and there. Nonetheless it's a concept you definitely have to experiment with. Along with just general experimentation with brushes etc.
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No.3602
>>3597
>accidentally making a thread on /ic/ instead of a post here
Damn nigga, how'd you manage that, anyway some anons posted more tips in that thread you accidentally made.
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No.3610
>>3600
>>3601
alright thicker lines thanks.
>>3602
yeah I made a mistake. I was meant to post on the biginner thread but I wasen't paying attention and accidentily made it a board.
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No.3617
>>3291
Perhaps you should start with "Fun with a pencil", though, as it is made for absolute begginers.
Anyways, have a nice Journey, anon.
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No.4075
I just can't seem to get better, yet my technical drawings aren't total dog shit, yet my sketching it abolute shit.
It's fucking frustrating that I can draw isometric, 1st and 3rd angle projection of components yet can't draw a fucking hand.
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No.4079
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No.4105
>>4079
No I am OP he's just another guy. and I've been practising Cntrl+paint's tutorial.
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No.4176
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No.4187
>>4176
alright.
I've been doing Ctrl+Paint's tutroials right now I am at: http://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/form-not-shape
and it's assignments/homework
I should be further ahead but I just waste my time too much.
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