No.8458 [Last50 Posts]
http://www.parentherald.com/articles/17911/20160128/the-winds-of-winter-release-date-update-george-rr-martin-book-nowhere-near-finished.htm
Hello everyone, I am a lazy fatass fuck. It takes me 7 fucking years to write a penny-dreadful, film-script based "novel". And it doesn't matter that it's my full time fucking job, literally the only thing I'm required to do, or that I jack off at 67 years of age by taking bum fuck vacations all over the world to live off the prestige of my now stagnate series that I can't fucking finish, that I'm constantly giving interviews and bullshit for the industry, and that I'm writing OTHER books that literally no one gives a fuck about. That's right, I'm not writing for the series that is the sole reason for all my fame and which everyone wants, no, I write other books that are truly shit and no one gives a fuck about. And when those that gave me all this money call me out on this shit, the best I can do is twiddle my fat fingers, flip them off and then whine on my blog about how ashamed I am of being a lazy fatass fuck. Oh, did I mention that I waste time playing videogames? I have all this responsibility, I'm 67 fucking years old and I waste time playing videogames, because that's really going to get the job done and get all these people off my back. Did I mention I'm a lazy fatass fuck?
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No.8460
>>8458
I never knew GRRM plays vidya.
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No.8461
>>8460
What kind of vidya do you think he plays? My guess is he wacks it to Morrowind and shit like Mount and Blade.
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No.8462
>>8461
Since he's still using old comp, I'm thinking they're DOS games.
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No.8467
And this is why I've learned to hate not just trilogies, which could be bad enough, but also endless door-stopper epic series clogging the consumer marching order best seller lists.
Superstar hotshot celebrity author franchise monopolies are the greatest drag on modern fiction. One novel, one story. And the world would be a better place.
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No.8468
>i have no ending and i must write
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No.8473
>>8458
He said that he played vidya in the 80s.
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No.8474
Word on the street is he lurks an image-board or two.
Vidya's one thing, sure. If you want to really point the finger of blame at some bad habits though …
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No.8478
>>8474
words on the street, the CEO of your mother lurks an image-board or two.
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No.8481
>>8462
>>8461
Leisure Suit Larry
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No.8525
>>8474
good, then I'll dox him, find him, chain him to a laptop and if he looks up before the series is finished I'm shooting both of us.
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No.8528
>wasting your time on genre trash
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No.8534
>>8528
Bloom despises post-modernism, yet supports Obama, an exemplar of post-modernism
Jew'd
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No.8562
Someone kill him already so Sanderson or someone else can actually finish the damn series.
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No.8563
>>8528
Does this dried up cunt ever smile?
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No.8567
>>8534
>Obama, an exemplar of post-modernism
Could have fooled me, i thought he was an exemplar of business-as-usual "pragmatism" that is far removed from any kind of post-modernism, unless you meant to say that he's caught up in the postmodern zeitgeist, in which case so are you and everyone else on the earth except those who can afford to shut themselves off in premodern cocoons. But who am i talking to? You think the Jews are important when it's the Micks who've been sucking the world dry with moxie and gusto for centuries. Wake up and smell the Guinness, we're all being played.
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No.8572
>>8528
is it true that he has intestinal problems or is it a half/lit/ meme?
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No.8573
>>8525
>writing on a laptop
gross
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No.8650
>>8458
FINISH THE FUCKING BOOKS YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT
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No.8662
>>8650
my theory is that he doesn't know how to finish it.
that he had planned some sort of timeskip during which the remaining starks had some sort of training arc but he progressed the story too much and he has trouble between where the story is and where it was supposed to be.
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No.8663
This is an excellent example of why a series is nothing to be impressed by. Even experienced well established writers should know better. Newer writers take note: a single novel is trouble enough.
Even Asimov was pressured to expand his original Foundation trilogy, and he was only able to deliver two really worthwhile volumes out of four. A series is more often an example of the school ground dealing perversity of a publisher than a writer's grand artistic accomplishment.
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No.8682
FINISH THE FUCKING BOOKS YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE, YOU'RE GOING TO FUCKING DIE IF YOU DON'T HURRY THE FUCK UP
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No.8686
>>8682
he's gonna die anyway.
valar morghulis.
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No.9089
FINISH THE FUCKING BOOKS YOU WORTHLESS LAZY FATASS FUCK
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No.9100
>>8573
>gross
they can even write on a smartassphone while on the train or anywhere. Rather than staring at the abyss of passing buildings/whatever, I would rather do something productive.
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No.9113
>>8458
FINISH THE FUCKING BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKSSSS
I WANT THE FUCKING GODAMN BOOKS, FINISH THE FUCKING GODAMN FUCKING BOOKS YOU SON OF A BITCH, YOU FUCKING GODAMN LAZY ASSHOLE
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No.9119
Why don't you fags read actual history? It's more interesting than anything this fat cunt with a scat fetish can come up with.
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No.9121
>>8458
FUCKING FINISH IT GODAMIT
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No.9186
>>8458
YOU SON OF A BITCH, FINISH THE FUCKING BOOKS
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No.9195
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No.9199
Why would anyone read a series that isn't finished?
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No.9210
>>9199
for what it's worth it had good time reading it and an even greater time discussing it on old /tv/, even though i haven't seen an episode of the tv series.
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No.9225
>>8458
>Reading pot-boiler rubbish
You deserve this level of butthurt
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No.9231
>>9225
i did. and i'm not butthurt in the least.
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No.9255
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No.9265
>>9255
the series will be ended by brandon sanderson and you know it.
thankfully i'm rapidly losing interest
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No.9341
>>8458
HURRY, FUCKING HURRY UP YOU SON OF A BITCH, HURRY THE FUCK UP GODAMIT YOU PIECE OF SHIT YOU'RE GOING TO FUCKING DIE AND FAIL EVERYTHING, YOU'RE TAKING TOO FUCKING LONG YOU USED TO WRITE BOOKS IN 2 YEARS BACK IN THE 90'S NOW IT TAKES 7 FUCKING YEARS, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?
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No.9342
>>9265
if he dies and doesn't finish it, I won't be re-reading the books, which I would have to do since I've forgotten everything SINCE ITS BEEN FUCKING YEARS SINCE THE LAST FUCKING BOOK CAME OUT
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No.9465
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No.9548
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No.9778
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No.9779
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No.9782
>>9341
Maybe he has some sort of dementia
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No.9788
>>9341
>i have no ending and i must write
that's what happened
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No.9796
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No.9874
Do people actually want to read these? Are they really worth reading?
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No.9881
>>9874
i had fun reading the five books.
would read them again.
the wait and the series cooled me about it.
i don't know if i'll read the sixth. if it will ever come out.
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No.9949
>>8458
It's simple, OP – his books are simply
too forking long!
If he'd just trim the bloody fat a little, he might stand a chance
>>8460
Yes, he does. No idea what though. He's never given his top 10
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No.9950
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No.10166
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No.10175
>>10166
fug, dude, about time! I began to worry you weren't coming back to this work-of-art-thread
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No.10177
HURRY. THE. FUCK. UP. YOU. FAT. FUCK.
IM GLAD THE TV SHOW CAME OUT, BECAUSE NOW YOU CAN'T EVEN CUCK YOUR READERS ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY FUCKING KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN BEFORE FUKING YOU DO! AND YOU KNOW WHY?
BECAUSE YOU WERE TOO FUCKING FAT AND LAZY TO FINISH THE FUCKING JOB OF WRITING A GODAMN BOOK ITS THE ONLY FUCKING JOB YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE TONS OF MONEY AND NOTHING ELSE AND INSTEAD YOU WENT ON FUCKING INTERVIEWS AND JACKOFFS AND COMICON PARTIES FOR LITTLE WHITE FAGGOTS INSTEAD OF DOING YOUR FUCKING JOB AND NOW YOU'VE FUCKED YOURSELF. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK YOU FATASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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No.10179
>>10177
> BECAUSE NOW YOU CAN'T EVEN CUCK YOUR READERS ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY FUCKING KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN BEFORE FUKING YOU DO!
except they completely changed the story.
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No.10196
>>10179
Well, they say they did, they say their ending isn't the same. Sure, there are things people can see that are different but completely different?
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No.10204
>>10196
>completely different?
well… i heard they killed stannis and doran. so i'd say yes.
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No.10220
HURRY HURRY HURRY HURRY HURRY
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No.10234
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No.10235
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No.10238
>>8458
fucking write the shit already faggot
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No.10299
>start reading the first novel before tv show is even a thing
>can't get past the 8th grade level plot and retarded interactions
>assume this was a bad script adapted into a worse book
>find out GRRM is a tv writer; no fucking wonder
>stop reading after page 50
>mfw there are people who actually enjoy badly adapted semi-historical events into cut and paste fantasy settings written by a third rate writer
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No.10303
>>10299
yeah, I grabbed a couple of the book pdfs and am reading sporadic chapters to see how he wrote certain bits I've seen in the tv show and, fug, he's not Shakespeare. I read an entire chapter on Daenerys wandering around the Dothraki sea, grass talking to her, for 20+ fucking pages before the nomadic inhabitants capture her, and it's like 20 seconds in the show.
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No.10354
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No.10362
>>8458
you fucking bastard
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No.10404
>>10299
>>10303
I really don't like how he formats any of his dialogue either.
Are there any good Fantasy books along the same thematic vein?
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No.10422
>>8458
Help me /lit, I'm caught in a dilemma
I want to read one of his books to decide if they are really that bad, but on the other hand i don't want to give him any money.
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No.10423
>>10422
I mean, I could just buy one on ebay, but it would still somehow support him
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No.10424
>>10423
I've seen paperback editions cropping up all over in library surplus sales, and some thrift stores. We're talking a quarter a pop per volume. That's one way of doing it.
Or you can go all out old skool and check one out from a library proper.
Last time I looked they're all available from the usual yo-ho-ho sites. There's even one with the full collection of the current series. Install Calibre and go hunting. That's probably the best way if you just want to get an idea of what all the fuss is about, without any greater commitment.
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No.10426
>>10423
>ebay
he gets no money from a second-hand book sale
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No.10436
>>8458
>parentherald
>reliable
AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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No.10438
>>10426
Buying goods from a second vendor still supports the first vendor.
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No.10442
>>10438
how do you figure, sports-fan?
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No.10456
>>10303
Surprise surprise, the show has to cut pretty much everything from the books.
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No.10616
>>10422
Just download a pdf and use it in the kidle
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No.10620
Haven't seen OP redtexting in a few weeks
Do you think his anger caused him to pop a vein in his neck and bleed out?
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No.10621
He … OP … got back to writing.
Don't question the way writers motivate themselves. It is what it is, but it works.
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No.10658
Better croak before finishing so his legacy will live on fan butthurt and delusions of potential.
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No.10665
>>10658
maybe that's what he's aiming for.
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No.10679
I saw this fatfuck circljerking with Stephen King the other day about how "We're responsible for confiscating all guns from evil white people"
if any of you actually enjoy Stephen King, King of pennydreadfuls, kill yourself, just slit your godamn throat you worthless piece of shit
no one gives a fuck about you, GRRM, not one gives a fuck about what shitlib opinion your have about anything shitlibs have opinions about, not one iota of a fuck, no one gives a fuck about anything else about you, no one wants you to do fucking interviews, because besides not giving a fuck about you, you are boring as hell and your voice is feckless enough to make a dick shrivel, you are LOW ENERGY
only thing that has ever mattered in your life was your halfway decent screenwriting, which is what GOT is, a serialized tv show on paper, its all it is, its the only thing in your life that was useful to any extent. and you are in danger of losing even that. sit down, pull your fucking typewriter out of your ass and start fucking typing you imbecile
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No.10682
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No.10685
>>10621
>that pic
>go looking for that book cuz it looks interesting
>"Oh, it's a free ebook. Great!"
>click 20,000 google links to the ebook only to be directed to compulsory "free offer sites" to "qualify" for the free book or other such scam sites before realising "It's not a FREE book at all, you fucking liars!!"
mfw
>Don't question the way writers motivate themselves. It is what it is, but it works.
To whom are you directing this comment – OP?
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No.10698
>>10685
>To whom are you directing this comment
Y'all, but for OP.
OP knows who's who and what's up.
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No.10808
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No.10882
>>8458
you fat motherfucker
FINISH THE GODAMN BOO, WRITE, WRITE, WRITE, WRITE, WRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITE YOU SON OF A BITCH, WRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITE, WRITE THE FUCKING GODAMN BOOK
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No.10887
>>10882
you gotniggers are truly the lowest of all pond scum.
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No.10889
>>10887
>gotniggers
wasdat?
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No.10891
>>10889
>Game Of Thrones
>GOT
>nigger
>[nig-er]
>Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a contemptuous term used to refer to a person of any racial or ethnic origin regarded as contemptible, inferior, ignorant, etc.
>>10887
personally i welcome some /lit/related shitposting. but it's a very personal opinion.
keep up the good work, gotnigger.
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No.11040
>>8458
you fucking bastard
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No.11047
>>8458
Calm the fuck down, anon. He's living off the profits of one of the biggest television licenses in history and you're just pissed because you have to work a nine to five job to make ends meet, probably because you got someone pregnant like a fucking idiot. If you don't like him, don't give him your money.
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No.11061
>>11047
>>11047
not him, but personally i'm mildly annoyed he won' t likely finish what he started.
>If you don't like him, don't give him your money.
too late, i've already bought and read the books.
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No.11062
>>11047
>>11061
It's a funny thing. I've found the complete (to date) series at library surplus sales, at a quarter a pop per volume. Thrift stores all over have them.
Maybe it was like this for Asimov and Tolkien, back in the day.?
Everyone I know has experienced GoT via the TV series. It makes more money for him while at the same time killing book sales, I think. Maybe it's just plain old market over-saturation.
At least Stephen King's Dark Tower series is complete. I want to have go at that when I get a chance. GoT can wait, however long it takes. I won't touch it until complete (the TV series be damned), if ever.
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No.11063
>>11062
I can't speak for Asimov, but I remember hearing an anecdote about Tolkein that his books just did not sell at all until the hippie movement were like "wait, this book supports our environmental message, maaaaaaaan!" The anecdote is that Tolkein was reading it to a bunch of his friends at a writing workshop and one of them, lying on a nearby couch, suddenly screamed "Oh FUCK! Not another elf!"
and, on the subject of the Dark Tower, a woman on her deathbed once asked to see Stephen King and he obliged because he's a nice guy, so she asked him to tell her how the Dark Tower series was going to end so that she would know before she died. He told her he didn't know. She died before the last book came out. Imagine how she felt.
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No.11095
>>11063
>Tolkein that his books just did not sell at all until the hippie movement
>this trope again
Not at all true.
Certainly the hippies were big fans of the book(s) but it would be MORE accurate to say that it was releasing the books in paperback in the early 1960s that made Tolkien's books fly off shelves. But LotR was selling well pretty-much from the beginning. Which is remarkable when you think about it.
The thing about it though is that it never sold like a Dan Brown novel, it just kept selling well year-in, year-out, and eventually it's sold like 100 million copies and people go… "Oh, must be all that hippies and DnD that did it."
Anyone who thinks that is just too lazy to remember the 1950s.
https://www.quora.com/Were-the-books-of-The-Lord-of-the-Rings-known-before-the-movies
(To be fair, actually finding sales of a book from the 1950s using the internet is nigh on impossible. So, anecdotes in pic related will have to do.)
It certainly was not a "sleeper hit" that the hippies made happen. Hell, there had been two radio plays of the books produced by 1961 – loooooooong before the hippies.
Oh and they weren't "environmentalists" back then, they were "at one with nature, maaaan". They became the greenie movement, sure, but don't make the mistake of thinking they're the same thing – hippies wouldn't recognise greenies of today. They loved the book because it was weird, strange, and sensed kinfolk in the simple-living hobbits.
And this:
>The anecdote is that Tolkein was reading it to a bunch of his friends at a writing workshop and one of them, lying on a nearby couch, suddenly screamed "Oh FUCK! Not another elf!"
Fuck you've got it all muddled.
THAT quote is of a very straight, very NOT-a-hippy buttoned-down Oxford fellow (in American terms: professor) Hugo Dyson who was an expert on Shakespeare, a member of the inklings and not at all a fan of Tolkien's high fantasy stories so much so that he is recorded, by Tolkien Jnr, as reacting thus to another of Tolkien's readings:
>lying on the couch, and lolling and shouting and saying, "Oh God, no more Elves"
This happened in about the 1930s, maybe 1940s, which I think we can all agree was a FUCKING LONG TIME BEFORE THE HIPPIES. We know it happened no later than the 1940s because Tolkien stopped attending Inkling meetings after each of the members successively pissed him off, the last being C.S. Lewis.
I am not aware that he EVER ran a writers workshop especially since such things did not fucking exist in his time. At BEST it would have been a literature class, but I think the closest he got to one of those was running seminars or lectures on 10th century literature, such as Beowulf. Contrary to popular belief, Tolkien wasn't really a writer that he would hold a writer's class: he was a mythologist who happened to like creating his own. It was really only because Lewis kept convincing Tolkien to publish.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/4726760/Tolkien-was-not-a-writer.html
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No.11243
>>9949
Is it just me or is it just the British authors who manage a nice, regular publish/write/publish pattern?
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No.11247
>>11063
>He told her he didn't know.
What the fuck? Couldn't he just make some shit up on the fly just to pacify her? Goddamn.
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No.11251
>>11040
I'll help you out
HURRY IT UP YOU FUCKING TWAT BITCH WHORE
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No.11259
>>8458
MOTHER FUCKER
YOU STUPID OLD FILTHY TRAITOR
I'M GLAD THE SERIES CUCKED YOU
HURRY THE FUCK UP, YOU'RE GOING TO DIE, YOU'RE 70 AND FAT AS FUCK
THIS FATFUCK IS STILL TEASING SPINOFFS FROM THE MAIN GOT SERIES AND HE HASN'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO FINISHING THE MAIN FUCKING SERIES HE HASN'T EVEN REVEALED THE FUCKING WHITE WALKERS YET AND HE'S TALKING ABOUT WRINGING MORE SHEKELS OUT OF IT 20 YEARS FROM NOW HE WON'T BE FUCKING ALIVE THEN BUT HIS PATHETIC MIND IS SO WARPED THAT HE IS SAYING SUCH THINGS IN ALL SERIOUSNESS YOU STUPID, LAZY FATASS IDIOT
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No.11262
>>11247
>Couldn't he just make some shit up on the fly
Considering how that series ended he might as well have.
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No.11266
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No.11356
>>8458
NO, FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU, YOU LIBERAL FAGGOT
muh "u were slaughtering us so we had to make le zombies lel". That shit is We Wuz tier; le ebil came over to heaven on Earth and made it all bad, everything was fine, WE WUZ
I hope fat fuck has a better, more in depth rational for that shit in the book besides D&D's we wuz, neckbeard'd loser
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No.11380
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No.11434
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No.11552
>>11380
FUCK YOU AND FUCK GodamnReallyReallyMotherfuckingfatassbastard
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No.11560
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No.11621
>>8458
So who wants to talk about how A Dance with Dragons ended?
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No.11622
>>8662
Have Danny almost make it, but then a Kingdom largely united, but only judt, with the returned Stannis, shut her down. Near Dragonstone.
And then, have the Cannibal wake up from his slumber, consume Drogon, and Danny rides off on a dragon a great deal larger than Balerion.
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No.11624
>>11621
i'm here, which ending would you like to talk about?
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No.11642
>>11552
I really wish I could hide threads on this board
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No.11716
>>8458
FUCK YOU, YOU LIBERAL PIECE OF SHIT
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No.11721
>>11716
WRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITE!
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No.11725
http://mashable.com/2016/11/29/george-r-r-martin-guadalajara/
>but he's gotta drink some tequila first
and then he's gotta scratch his ass, and maybe sign some more books, and go to a few comicons, and fly to new zealand, and dick off with game of thrones shit, and then talk about writing again
I hope this liberal faggot gets his fat head cut off in Mexico
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No.11784
T H E
A M E R I C A N
T O L K I E N
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No.11785
>>11784
ok, that actually upset me.
has anyone actually said that?
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No.11787
>>11785
Fat, lazy, incompetent. Seems like the definition of an American version.
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No.11788
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No.11789
>>11788
I better be seeing some extra loot under the tree for this.
Coal
Burning coal
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No.11790
>>11785
Many people. Too many, actually.
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No.11825
>>8474
word on the street is you should kill yourself George
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No.11830
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No.11838
>>11785
Pretty much everyone has
nothing makes me more upset, most faggots don't even understand how much work Tolkien put into crafting his world before he even starting writing, and even then he did more than this fat fuck
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No.11839
>>11838
>Pretty much everyone has
i haven't.
to my memory not even old /got/ did.
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No.11868
>>11838
Basic linguistics should be a requirement for fictional settings. Like, what is the implication that people in Westeros have painfully modern but slightly archaic misspelled Anglo names? Do they speak English? Is the text "translated" and they misspell their own language? Is misspelling a trend? Pure coincidence? Wrathful gods imposing poorly spelled English on Westorians? Really makes you think.
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No.11911
>>8458
i honestly dont give a shit anymore
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No.11944
>>11911
at least you tried anon. One year of rage is enough to know that he's shit at delivering.
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No.11979
>>8525
>I'll dox him
I thought his physical address was all-but public knowledge
I've seen pix of his house before
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No.12440
>>8458
>YUNG FOREVER, FUCK YOU FOR QUESTIONING MY FATASS DIABETUS ADDLED MIND
GRRM is peak boomer; GOT is intredasting as a Quentin Tarantino phenomena within the fantasy genre, but the amount of conceit in that OP pic interview is bemusing. On some level he has to be abstaining from completing his great task with the magical thinking that it will forestall his rapidly approaching death.
>>10621
>Don't question the way writers motivate themselves. It is what it is, but it works.
You're going to die, George. Procrastination won' save your cucked diabetic ass. And this >>10679
>>11095
>boomer hippy fascination with Tolkien
Tied to the folk music revival in the UK of the time
>>11259
>STILL TEASING SPINOFFS FROM THE MAIN GOT SERIES
Cuck & Negg, kek
>>11356
>muh Vietnam allegory
Likewise, the only redeeming, compelling aspects of Star Wars lore centers around retconning Jedi culpability/autism/laser child samurai cult, with the Empire clearly a necessary development of a decadent multi-national/ethnic/world Republic going Caesarion, and at the end of it Luke - and New Republic/Imperial Remnant - reconciling it all in the face of a bigger bad. Fortunantly for Martin/HBO, they started filming before the election– otherwise the temptation to insert an election allegory would torpedo season 8/9 viewership.
>>8662
>>11622
My theory is that the cream of crowd sourced fan theories cucked his original intentions in coherence and systematic scope, and that this combined with non-linear 'gardening' production style confounds his already scatterbrained mind. Half-measures with the Joseph Cambell mythological archetypes opened a meme magick Pandora's Box of unintended resonances that he is now obliged to make whole, and it will be shit without vicariously deviating from that selfsame shitlib temptation to make everything muh Nazis/election allegory.
>>11868
>Basic linguistics should be a requirement for fictional settings. Like, what is the implication that people in Westeros have painfully modern but slightly archaic misspelled Anglo names?
Which is why I'd reccomend Sapowski before GRRM to normalfags 11 times out of 10.
>most faggots don't even understand how much work Tolkien put into crafting his world before he even starting writing
This, and despite the series certainly structured as a response to - or allegory of - Vietnam and the Cold War in general, he is unlikely to appreciate that conflict's relationship to Tolkien's participation in the FRATricidal European Civil War that necessitated it (Unless the Night's King pact with the Night's Watch and subsequent wee babby offerings represent Lend Lease supplies to the UK/USSR . . .) Cart-before-the-horse, Tarantino-in-literature pulp without it.
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No.12458
>>12440
>Star wars had redeeming aspects other than Sheev memes
It's treason, then?
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No.12459
“I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I wrote a long one instead.”
― Mark Twain
I don’t think I could ever sit down and read through all the books of GRRM – it just strikes me as an inflated, bloated pulp story that just lifts elements heavily from history (the War of the Roses in particular). Tolkien did pretty much the same thing, stealing names, ideas and concepts from myths and legends – most notably Norse Mythology.
There are countless, much shorter, books I’d spend my time reading instead of investing hours upon hours on GRRM’s lengthy pulp fantasy.
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No.12462
>>12459
it's not that bad. but in hindsight i would have probably skipped that. i can't say that it did leave me much. and i don't plan on reading the next book if it will ever come out.
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No.12494
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No.13112
I saw somebody wanted this thread fixed.
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No.13113
I really hate this fatass fuck GRRM. I really really fucking hate him, I'd love to beat him to death with a baseball bat.
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No.13114
>>8458
LAZY, FAT, FUCK, OLD, FAT, FUCK. YOU ARE GOING TO FUCKING DIE YOU SACK OF SHIT. YOU DECIDED TO FLIP OUT ABOUT NAZIS AND YOU WRITE A BOOK THAT IS IMPLICITLY WHITE SUPREMACIST AND FEATURES NOTHING BUT FUCKING WHITEWASHED EUROPEAN TROPES AND FUCKING WHITE PEOPLE YOU HYPOCRITICAL FAT FUCKING LARD ASS LIBERAL DIPSHIT. QUIT DICK OFF, QUIT TRYING TO APE FAGGOTS ON TRUMP. YOU'RE NOT A FUCKING MORAL SCION, YOU'RE NOT A FUCKING PRIEST, A FUCKING EDUCATOR, A TEACHER, EVEN A FUCKING WISDOM WRITER. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY BESIDES FUCKING ENTERTAINMENT FOR 5 CENTS PER PENNYDREADFUL. YOU ARE HERE TO FUCKING ENTERTAIN MASSES YOU GODAMN FUCKING MORON. YOU MOTHERFUCKING IDIOT, YOU ARE A FUCKING ENTERTAINER PROVIDING AMUSEMENT, NOTHING MORE OR LESS. YOU PHILOSOPHASTING IS SHIT, YOUR IDEAS ABOUT POWER ARE SHIT. THE ONLY FUCKING THING THAT MATTERS IS YOUR GODAMN FAN-FICTION PANDERING, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON ANYONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT YOUR FUCKING BOOKS. PEOPLE ARE FUCKING LONELY, THEY WANT TO IDENTIFY WITH SOMETHING OUTISDE OF THIS RETARDED BOURGEOIS LIBERAL RATRACE BUT WITHOUT THE CULTURAL PREREQUISITES OF ACTUAL CLASSICS, BECAUSE THAT REQUIRES WORK AND THEY ALREADY WORK FUCKING 50 HOURS A WEEK. THEY NEED SOMETHING ACCESSIBLE, SOMETHING THEY CAN SIT DOWN AND ABSORB LIKE A FUCKING COMIC BOOK. THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE YOU GODAMN BASTARD, YOU ARE A GLORIFIED COMIC BOOK WITH MORE WORDS YOU FUCKING SACK OF SHIT. PULL YOUR FUCKING TYPEWRITER OUT OF YOUR ASS AND START FUCKING TYPING YOU MOTHER FUCKING IDIOT
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No.13115
>>13114
Never change, anon.
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No.13118
>>13115
Are we sure this is OP?
>>13112
It needs to exist so that OP can rant
But, didn't GrrM publish the book OP wanted released some time recently?
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No.13119
>>11243
>be tolkien
>17 years between Hobbit and first lotr book
>publish all three books within a year
Not sure that necessarily holds true in all cases
Yes, I know LotR should really be considered all one book cuz he wrote the whole thing in one go but his publisher refused to publish a 1,000 page book even though these days if your fantasy book is less than 1,000 pages you're obviously not wanting to be published.
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No.13130
>>13119
>>13119
>though these days if your fantasy book is less than 1,000 pages AND part of a trilogy you're obviously not wanting to be published.
FTFY
just joking pretty sure you are right as is
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No.13143
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>>8458
T H E A M E R I C A N T O L K E I N
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No.13144
>>13119
>facism
>prejudiced against faces
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No.13202
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No.13203
oyyyy vey let's wait another 20 years to publish a fucking book
Dont forget goy..guys to subscribe to HBO and to buy the new books of ASoIaF with NEW cover.
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No.13205
>>13203
let them, what's it to you?
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No.13218
I enjoyed his autistic attention to detail for the noble houses and political relationships. The writing itself was good even if the plot is simplistic. Black Company novels are better though.
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No.13236
>>13203
He will never write another full novel. Everything from now on is going to be short stories that he can pitch as stand alone movies.
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No.13239
GRRM got cucked by his own shekel show last year and now the shekel show is itself being cucked by street-shitter. Who would have thought someone from a 3rd world shithole would do something illegal and fuck you out of millions of dollars. I torrented it, I'm so glad this is all happening to you liberal cocksuckers and am doubly glad that GRRM has now been cucked twice, first by his shekeling and then by his dipshit globalist bourgeois morality that a street shitter flushed down the toilet. Fuck you you fatass bastard, maybe now pull the fucking typewriter out of your massive crevice of an asscrack and start fucking typing, but even if you don't I'll still be happy because I'm going to be happy when you die before it is finished because then everyone who told you to fucking hurry up will be vindicated and you'll go down as the biggest laughing stock in the history of penny-dreadfuls. You won't even have dignity among uneducated retards the likes of which think Stephen Fucking King is a good writer, even there in that mental wasteland you'll be laughed at and considered a fucking failure. You are so FUCKED you motherfucking lard bastard piece of liberal shit
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No.13243
>>13239
he never had an ending to begin with.
a cautionary tale for all aspiring writers, if you want to make a story full of characters and plot lines, plan your stuff ahead.
even though i guess a good writer could just write stuff as it goes and make it so that things happen just as a natural consequences of the interactions of characters being true to themselves.
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No.13258
>>13243
Her cunt became the world.
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No.13262
I like A Song of Ice and Fire I thought they were great books and really well written, not perfect no, but I enjoy his works a whole lot more than boring teen-fantasy bullshit like the Wheel of Time and the stuff Brandon Sanderson writes.
I used to get pissed off that the books were taking so long but now I don't care. He's created a really interesting world which my imagination can roam free in and also presents a lot of great ideas I don't see make it into fantasy very often at all. You should try read them without it all just being about getting to the end and finding out what happens. That hampered my enjoyment of the books significantly but it was my own fault, the TV shows present everything in a different way, kind of like a glorified soap-opera, but if you let the TV put to firm of an impression on you and try to take that same perspective into the books you've just ruined it for yourself.
They are the kind of things I read before I go to my bed or if I just want to get lost in a book. Some of the levels of seriousness I see people taking them just seems silly, you can put a lot of your own interpretation into the imagery and story and it works a lot better than the really forced "realistic" style of the show.
The show fuckin sucked ass in comparison to the books, some people in here actually preferring that whole chapters in the book are cut out for a 2 minute seen and seeing it as a good thing, I don't know why you even read books if you just want to know the advancement of the plot. I remember reading that part of GoT when Danaerys is roaming the dothraki sea and I thought it was one of the most beautiful and well written parts of the sereis, I had never read anything else like it.
The books will be finished when they are finished, losing your shit and going crazy because you can't see then end only goes to show how great the books are, if they were trash you wouldn't care, you become enflamed about the books because they had a profound effect over you, and that is ultimately the highest accolade any artist can recieve.
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No.13270
>>13262
>also presents a lot of great ideas
mostly taken from other authors or history.
>>13262
in general.> I don't know why you even read books if you just want to know the advancement of the plot.
gurm is definitely a plot kind of writer.
and the books are not that great. but i really liked them back then and. i had a great time discussing them on /got/ on old /tv/.
but at this point, if the next book came out tomorrow, i don't know if i would pick it up.
>The books will be finished when they are finished, losing your shit and going crazy because you can't see then end only goes to show how great the books are
i doubt anybody ITT is actually pissed.
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No.13273
>>13262
>a really interesting world which my imagination can roam free in
I'd hate to have an imagination this stunted.
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No.13275
>>13273
An imaginative person can roam free in even simple places. The elitists like yourself are the stunted ones.
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No.13276
>>13275
>I'm so intellectual I can enjoy eating any shit
You should practice your pseudo-deep bullshit more.
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No.13280
>>13258
while we are at it, let's mention the fat pink mast and the myrish swamp.
also what about gurm's weak spot for large dark nipples?
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No.13282
>>13270
>most of the great ideas are taken from other authors or history
I really disagree with that but maybe you could show me how I am wrong. What other books have you read which make A Song of Ice and Fire seem highly unoriginal and make you think its "mostly" just a collection of stolen ideas? The characters are written superbly and they all seem very alive, I wouldn't say that I am a big fantasy reader but I have read a lot in the genre and I don't really think there are any books which really have that same tone and throwout of typical cliches. I'd love to read more like it but like I said most of what I find comes across very much the same, the typical good vs evil archetypal story.
I do know my history and I think to so casually summarise what is presented in the text as stolen from history to be demeaning to both sides. It is not simply an allegory of historical events, far far from it, I don't understand people who just see historical commonalities, there are dragons and magic, the world is all different sizes, so much is in those books which have absolutley nothing to do with history. Sure a lot of is historical like the monarchy and feudal systems but so what? Is Dune unoriginal because it also takes elements out of history? Ah, I dunno, maybe you have just read a whole lot more fantasy than me or something but I really can't think of many books in the genre (though I think in general it is a variety of genre) that have this level of originality.
>>13273
I don't know what you mean, how is my imagination stunted because I like to explore this world in my mind? I like thinking about and picturing all the different places and what it would be like to live in this place. I prefer the North with characters like Bran and Hodor rather than the more political intrigue side going on down South but the East also really stimulated my imagination quite a bit and I find the whole world to be quite wonderful.
Can we not actually discuss literature productively instead of looking down on everything and making axiomatic points which do nothing but condescend and promote little conversation? I would like it is all….
>>13276
How can someone professed well in literature absolve themselves to such a disgusting temperment? I know this is 8ch but can you at least try to not sound like utter cancer? Isn't this were we can discuss books? Why bring all the petty name calling and pissing contests to feel some shallow sense of superiority when you could just try to get a long and maybe get some different insights.
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No.13285
I have a webm that proves the magnificence of his literary talent.
Transcript:
"Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was loser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up, she was shitting brown mortar. The more she drank, the more she shat; but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew".
OP you need to grow up and understand that such level of writing takes several years, and that much relaxation and vacationing is needed in between writing sessions.
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No.13293
>>13276
He said the world was interesting and his imagination can roam. You replied by saying his imagination can roam because his imagination is stunted.
You are the one pretending to be an intellectual and deep here with your pseudo-deep bullshit. Off yourself, retard.
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No.13294
>>13276
Practice reading, as you are barely literate. It isn't about intellectuals enjoying everything, but how people with active imaginations can roam free in everything. There is a difference. Re-read it if you can't comprehend such a simple thing.
You brought intelligence in, and you brought the assumption in that only certain (deep?) works deserve your imagination, else you accuse them of being stunted.
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No.13298
>>13282
>What other books have you read which make A Song of Ice and Fire seem highly unoriginal and make you think its "mostly" just a collection of stolen ideas?
several. but you wouldn't need that.
can we agree that most of the populations and religions are basically stuff that existed/exists or happened with some minor tweaks? stuff like the religion of seven is clearly the catholic church, the dothraki are basically one population of steppen riders or another, the ironborn are basically vikings, the drowned god is basically chtulhu, the bravos is basically venice populated by jew bankers who used to be killed in dragonfire ovens by nazi blonde valyrians or maybe it was real in their minds.
sparrows are basically this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraticelli
there was more, but i read the books some five years ago, i don't remember …
>Sure a lot of is historical like the monarchy and feudal systems but so what? Is Dune unoriginal because it also takes elements out of history
dune is set in a future where we mastered FTL travel, we had fought off skynet and world religions had gone through some very weird syncretism. it's the future, it's more about being plausible, albeit weird, rather than being "original".
btw i didn't mean to say that was a bad thing. it's almost impossible to make something that had never been made or creating something truly unheard of. not that it matters, like pretty much everything else the merits and the flaws of gurm's work is in the execution.
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No.13303
>>13262
>the books are good because they make me feel good also the tv show is sooo bad guys
Jesus. Go back to tumblr please.
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No.13365
Jesus Christ, this season was dogshit
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No.13422
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No.13424
>>13365
>>13422
The show really took a nosedive when D&D went passed the book and had to come up with shit on their own.
I'm not saying GURM is a great writer, but he is leagues above D&D and their show writers.
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No.13427
>>13262
Sauce on image?
pic related is the only thing I could find of her.
Sage for offtopic.
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No.13467
>>13365
>>13422
>>13424
This is a MAJOR surprise, since I have read some of GrrM's crap and thought "wow, D&D must be GENIUSES to have improved so much on this tripe" … and now you're telling me HE'S the genius?!
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No.13481
Does anyone actually still wants to read his books? Since 2011 I pretty much grew up and realized that ASOIAF is just an entry-tier airport pulp garbage for reddit audience. You could not pay me to waste my time reading it now, so all the outcry about him being a lazy fuck (which he is) and all seems so pointless - who cares if he doesn't finish his books, do you really want to read them?
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No.13495
These things… they take time.
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No.13500
>>13481
It's been so long since the last book, I'm not sure if it was even good or bad, fat fuck has drug his fatass for so long that all the events have disappeared in my mind.
Just hoping he dies now before finishing it.
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No.13522
>>8458
FUCKING PIECE IF SHIT!!!!! FINISH THE BOOKS NOW!!! REEEEEEEE!!!!!!
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No.13523
>>13522
>wanting to read gotshit
>>>/reddit/
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No.13603
I joked about him dying before finished it, and being glad for his untimely death, but even the fucking tv show is dragging ass into 2019. I seriously wonder if this dude will finished TWOW at all. I mean, how fucking hard can it be to get filthy fucking rich, get on a godamn fucking diet to shed some of that 400 lbs of lard so you can simply move around and improve your life, let alone finishing the godamn book, and then sitting down and having the time to write all the shit you wanted to write, finally. He has everything there you could want, right there, right under his gigantic ass, and he just, JUST fucking farts. I don't get it. Just fucking write the godamn book, you son of a bitch, you fucking godamn lazy bastard, you fatass motherfucker. I'd bet this ungrateful fat fuck would shit a brick if we stole his wealth, I bet then that complacent boulder of shit would start punching his typewriter with some life, fucking piece of shit, I just don't get it. Asshole, piece of shit, I'd love to kidnap you and torture you to death, I'd make you squeal, like a fat pig, I'd make bacon out of your belly fat and then stuff it down your mouth, and I don't care if you choke on your fake teeth while I'm doing it, you bastard you deserve every bit of punishment for not just sitting down, concentrating and finishing the book like you're fucking supposed to do. Fucking godamn, 20 years to finish a story, how fucking incomprehensible, it's like you're a godamn retard. I'd love to throw you in a electric chair and watch your brains dribble out your nostriles. I'd love to strap you down and shit on your face. I'd fucking shit in your mouth and then I'd make you choke on my shit, that's what you deserve for being such an annoying fat bastard. Fuck me? FUCK YOU you worthless piece of fucking shit. The very fucking godmother said you were a worthless piece of fucking shit, private martin YOU ARE A WORTHLESS PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT GET OFF OF MY FUCKING GODAMN BOOK CASE, GET THE FUCK OFF OF MY BOOKCASE, NOW
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No.13632
>>13603
I don't even know why you still wait for him. The books won't be finished during his lifetime. A sanderson replacement or the author who wrote the first law will finish it instead just like how robert jordan did with his.
Or the hacks at HBO.
But there are other authors more reliable and not "tolkien-esque" >>13467 prose authors out there.
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No.13672
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No.13715
>>9341
Haha lick my big fucking clit haha
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No.13718
Forget Sanderson, get Goodkind to finish the series.
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No.13722
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No.13835
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No.13845
http://archive.is/SzGpH
finish the mother fucking book you fucking godamn cock rider
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No.13848
>>8458
OP, Martin got health issues. He suffers from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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No.13974
>>13848
FUCK HIM, NOTHING ABOUT HIM HIM IS VALUABLE. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO HE IS, WHAT MATTER IS THE BOOK.
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No.13989
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No.14014
>>13989
>after 1000 hours of ms paint.
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No.14075
>>13365
>>13422
>>13424
No it wasn't. It just wasn't as clearly tonally GRRM's work and they're rushing toward the conclusion, which I guarantee GRRM's final book will do.
It'll be 2,000 pages long, but it will still rush to the conclusion
>>13467
D&D were the editors that GRRM needed for the books. Unfortunately, some credit has to be afforded GRRM's way since he did manage to create something salvagable
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No.14083
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
Wonder when the Trump curse is going to strike.
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No.14136
Ah, my favourite thread.
How have you been, old friend?
Moving slowly, I see.
>>14083
>Trump curse
huh?
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No.14166
I don't even care anymore, I actually stopped caring about this stupid fucking series
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No.14289
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No.14294
>>8461
I think he plays Daggerfall
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No.14304
>>8458
even if you are a fan of the fucking thing, the last two books were complete trash and whatever he's shitting out now will be exponentially worse
who gives a fuck
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No.14305
If he's admitting it's at least months away, that means at least an entire year in George time. I'm betting on a 2020 release now.
Man, what a dumb fatass.
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No.14306
If he's admitting it's at least months away, that means at least an entire year in George time. I'm betting on a 2020 release now.
Man, what a dumb fatass.
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No.14307
If he's admitting it's at least months away, that means at least an entire year in George time. I'm betting on a 2020 release now.
Man, what a dumb fatass.
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No.14308
If he's admitting it's at least months away, that means at least an entire year in George time. I'm betting on a 2020 release now.
Man, what a dumb fatass.
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No.14310
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No.14311
>>14310
I can't wait until he dies. His death is the only thing that excites me now.
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No.14313
harry potter is the best modern series
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No.14321
>>14136
>huh?
It's a meme about how public figures who attack Trump end up losing their careers or dying or some other nasty shit. Usually just a case of self-fulfilling prophecies, self-selection bias and the public figures in question being old, drugged up and diseased people likely to have died at any time. Yet add dubs to it and it's magic
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No.14324
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No.14326
>>14313
Not even Slytherin and Dumbledore's combined efforts can detract from the fact that Harry Potter is one of the dullest franchises in the history of movie franchises. Seriously each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.
Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody, just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.
>a-at least the books were good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."
I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.
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No.14341
>>14326
The simple genius of Harry Potter is rather alike a child friendly version of Y/A novels and their film adaptations today: An ordinary child is taken from the mundane and shit reality of their life and told everything is different now, they are special.
"Yer a wizard arry."
It perhaps explains why there is such fixation today on relating all current events to Dumbledore's army, the Mockingjay or the Resistance. They are all united in the common theme of taking ordinary people and granting them unwarranted importance, placing them against villains who are simply - and clearly, villains, who can be destroyed without any crisis of moral conscience.
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No.14356
>>14341
It was /tv/ pasta, but I agree with it. I watched one or two of the movies and don't even remember which.
These conflicts tell what everyone wants to achieve but not how, or, when something works, why it does. Does the good guy win because he's experienced, because he's kind, by happenstance? It's hard to follow these stories.
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No.14357
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No.14648
any update on this worthless fat fuck?!?
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No.14663
If I'm into a game like Skyrim, Legend of Zelda etc, what woudl be their fiction book equivalents?
No Game of Thrones. I ain't supporting that degenerate trash with my money.
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No.14675
>>14663
Lord of the Rings.
Considering your post this is easily the best option for you.
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No.14774
>>8458
And yet he's still more productive than you.
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No.14847
>>14663
>fiction equivalents
Viking sagas. Volsuung etc
The Iliad
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No.14878
Cannot believe /lit/ is SO slow that this thread has been alive almost three years.
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No.14906
>>14878
Still faster than GRRM himself.
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No.15015
>>11095
I dont get the point of that shitty article. "Tolkien was never an actual writer because Divine Comedy and Wizard of Oz are better"
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No.15059
My name is GRRM, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day writing stupid ass words. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any prizes? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than watching my series.
Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I won the laziness championship, and was runner-up at pretending to be busy. What do you pretend to do, other than “actually write things”? I also get straight 5 stars’s, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She was just found squatting in the grass; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
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No.15112
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No.15128
>>15059
That's one ugly motherfucker Dude on the right looks cool though
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No.15141
pull the fucking typewriter out of your ass and start fucking typing
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No.15153
Thready reminder. That this guy is a hack and he stole every thing from appendix N.
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No.15174
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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No.15257
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No.15264
>tfw I only come to /lit/ for this thread
>>14305 >>14306 >>14307 >>14308
>post two legit posts
>"flooding" screams 8ch
>dude posts four of the exact same
>that's okay, go ahead
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No.15273
>>15059
>GRR (((Martin)))
>Martin: Stoat
>Stoat: Weasel
>Weasel: Eli (((Wiesel)))
The more you know
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No.15277
I'm from 4chan's lit. Do you guys actually like ASOIAF?
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No.15281
>>15277
never read it, never will
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No.15282
>>8458
Writers write whatever their obsession leads them. He's following his muse. Much respect.
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No.15284
>>15281
So this is either a very bad shitpost or the majority of 8chan's lit like genre fiction.
Sad
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No.15288
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No.15289
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No.15290
>>8663
What about universe novels. Two separate unrelated stories occurring in the same universe? How come this isn't done more often?
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No.15309
>thread is more than two years old
>GRRM still hasn't fucking finished The Winds of Winter
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No.15443
>>13285
Good point, and well put
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No.15511
>>13285
>>15443
Shower this man in dozens more Hugo, Locus and Nebula awards!!
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No.15838
>>8458
jesus christ what a lazy fatass fuck
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No.15842
>>8461
Warband and Morrowind are good though.
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No.15843
>>10299
>semi-historical
>implying they're historical at all
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No.15844
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No.15847
>>15844
Even Schopenhauer knows we shouldn't read him.
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No.15900
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No.15912
I hope he dies and when they go to his home to pick up and publish his remaining "Manuscripts" they find out he had written nothing since the tv show started out of laziness. I hope the same happens to Memeura so people realize sometimes you have to a cheap skate and shill out low quality chapters for a long running series if you want to finish it in time.
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No.15929
>>15912
>implying fatass hasn't shilled out low quality Chapters
dude, entire characters in ASOIAF are low quality. Brienne of fucking Tarth, pure garbage.
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No.15942
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No.16109
why can't this motherfucker just finish the book?
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No.16124
>>16109
He doesn't need to now. I mean he's got his money between the TV series and spin off books he wrote to milk his fans.
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No.16129
>>15290
>unrelated stories occurring in the same universe
That's every non fantasy/sci-fi story ever written.
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No.16136
>>15929
Pretty much every character in ASOIAF is fucking low quality, anon. If it wasn't for all the sex tacked on, nobody would've even cared about the books, let alone the show - it's for people who think they're too mature for orcs and elves all the while it's got the substance of an emo tween's diary entry hating his parents for telling him to mow the lawn. GOT is literally the most overrated show ever made, and any other writer would've used said overratedness to their advantage unlike GRRM, who's too busy whining about an irrelevant franchise like the NY Jets than actually, y'know, writing.
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No.16248
it's all up to the fatman now.
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No.16251
>>16248
It is going to be shit anyway, it will end in the same way as the show ended.
I hope people use this chance to create high quality fun fiction.
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No.16262
>>16248
He all but confirmed that the book will be finished for the Hugo Awards in New Zealand next year, but yeah, it is too little too late. Especially after GoT's last few seasons.
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No.16296
Why is Gregory R.R. Muffin so fat? How do people get this fat? Does he stuff his face with food to research medieval royalty?
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