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File: 2412999f438d2f1⋯.jpg (296.38 KB,2164x1612,541:403,Lit Rankings.jpg)

 No.11913

Do any of you have a way of ranking literature?

That is, do consider certain genres and styles of writing better than others?

Pic related is what I'd consider my ranking system, although it's very rough and still a work in progress. Feel free to edit it in ways you think are better and share your own personal rankings when you approach literature of any kind.

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 No.11917

What is a Genre?

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 No.11920

>>11913

Nonfiction is a wide field. It encompasses Aristotle and Locke, but also your political commentator of the year writing on the shit-no-one-cares-about of the month.

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 No.11921

>>11920

It does, and the others are in a similar situation.

>>11913

The more deeply rooted the knowledge a book breaks, the better it is. Nonfiction and science fiction most commonly give a new view of the world, at least at their best. Tragedy, romance talk about things no one understands, about how characters behave and such. Mystery, horror, comedy can go either way.

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 No.11927

>>11921

The others are far more narrow and uniform. Take sci-fi. Compare the two most polarizing works you can find with each other, and they'll still have more in common than a highschool textbook on economics and The Holocaust Industry.

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 No.11933

File: e7ad288f4945bd0⋯.jpg (115.95 KB,1024x708,256:177,e7ad288f4945bd0fce5fe10639….jpg)

>genre fiction

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 No.11934

File: 5bbed1fdf4809d9⋯.jpg (477.54 KB,2164x1612,541:403,2412999f438d2f15c5927076de….jpg)

Oh shit, looks like you made a mistake on that anon, let me help you.

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 No.11941

>>11927

If you allow for anything that's supposedly sf, there are books just as different.

I grouped genres intro two-three because at their best they don't get in the way, and at their worst they do. Any classification based on what happens in the book will have this problem. As nonfiction is good at informing and bad at amusing, while fiction is the opposite, I would group them the same way. Just like a book teaching cooking is seen as different to cookbooks, there is a difference between a mystery with incidental action and a thriller which happens to have a plot.

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 No.12051

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>>11913

>>11917

>>11921

>>11927

>>11933

Watch this, you faggots. Most classics were once Genre Fiction as well, coming from now dead genres.

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 No.13325

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 No.13326

>>11934

>dong

jej

>>11913

this pyramid is quite bad. most works usually fit several, not one, of the definitions distributed on the various levels.

just to make an example, do you know that epic poetry is one of our main sources when it comes to folklore/legends/mythology?

also like >>11920 said, rousseau is also non fiction, and it's the most pernicious worthless crap you'll ever find.

personally i rank my books between "it stuck on me like a tatoo" and "it left me nothing but disgust". and it's based on the actual book and not the supposed genre.

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 No.13330

>>12051

The Iliad isn't fiction you fag.

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 No.13333

>>13330

yeah. and a very truthful account on how gods influence our daily lives.

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 No.13334

>>13333

Those quads…

Praise Kek.

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 No.13337

>>11913

Ranking literature by genre isn't a good idea because almost all genres contain really great works and really bad ones. Not to mention there are a ton of books that don't neatly fit into any single genre.

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 No.13446

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>>11913

>Genre fiction is on top

>Subtle short stories (slice of life?) is at the bottom.

This is painful.

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 No.13447

No and I think this is nonsense, I judge books based on their quality. Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings are the same genre (medievalized fiction with wizards and primitive weapons) but it doesnt mean that medieval fiction is shit.

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 No.13482

>>13447

Harry Potter is shit tho

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 No.13512

>>13482

Welcome to How To Miss The Point starring Anon

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 No.13565

genre fiction is NOT terrible if its based more on war and horror than romance.

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 No.13709

>>11913

>horror, mystery, thriller, & fantasy that high up

>realistic fiction is second to last

what the fuck >>11913

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 No.13736

this is meaningless anon, you need to free your mind from theses meaningless concepts. +one could argue nonfiction doesn't "exist"

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 No.13737

File: 295c7508c42ee12⋯.jpg (137.06 KB,1440x907,1440:907,volodine.jpg)

Volodine is a russian writer living in Paris making dystopian despaired and funny science fiction - https://www.tor.com/2017/02/24/in-the-time-of-antoine-volodine-unlikely-fables-literary-dystopias-and-strange-futures/

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 No.13753

>>11913

>horror is towards the top of the pyramid

Well, at least you're reading.

Have you finished your homework champ?

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 No.16431

>>13753 >>11913

horror is good when done right, but most "good" horror authors are doing tons of cookie cutter copy paste shit over and over again *cough* stephen king *cough* then it just doesnt feel special anymore, now its all the same, might as well read slice of life

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 No.16437

>>13330

Holy shit you are retarded

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 No.16463

believing in genres already puts you on the bottom floor of this pyramid

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 No.16467

>very good books

>good books

>ok books

>bad books

>shit books

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