No.29627 [Last50 Posts]
Any other commies here, or just fascists/apolitical folks?
>capitalism will crush the bones of the working class into dust so that the few may profit off of their labor
>you will never see the workers of the world united in solidarity
>you will never sleep tight in your personally decorated bunker on the Albanian coast commune
>capitalists are just as trapped into their own vicious cycle of profiteering
>the world is getting more and more classcucked, as alienated workers with no clear worker movement either seek the comfort of unbridled social liberalism, or blind hatred of their Other in fascism (latter being very unlikely, since neoliberalism has placed social liberalism in a hegemonic ideological position next to its laissez-faire capitalist economics)
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No.29630
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No.29631
Sorry bud, left-libertarian here.
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No.29632
>>29631
>left-libertarian
Well, then you ought to be a communist like me (for a largely either stateless or small state/federation/syndicate society, in which everything but your personal property is collectivized, and the workplace is organized democratically). Unless you have a different understanding of left-libertarianism, that is. Perhaps with "communist" you instantly associate me as a tankie or a Stalinist, which is not the case for me.
>that compass
Uh, well since I'm on /kind/, I'll refrain from vulgarly talking smack about it.
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No.29634
I don't feel like politics ever end in a /kind/ discussion, but I may as well just post these. The first image is my political opinions from my early teenage years until I reached adulthood. Nowadays I don't conform to any true ideology, so I just end up moving between the highlighted areas on the second image depending on how I'm feeling at the time.
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No.29636
>>29634
>politics never end in a /kind/ discussion
I've noticed that too. I wonder why that is.
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No.29638
>>29636
Just a feels thread I guess. Politically-related ones. I don't wanna make it a discussion or shit-flinging at all.
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No.29640
>tfw leftists think I'm liberal scum
>tfw rightists think I'm an SJW cuck
>tfw libertarians think I'm a statist sheep
>tfw authoritarians think I'm an edgy kiddie
I mean, I am an edgy kiddie, but that's beside the point.
Who centrist here?
fuck u firetires
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No.29641
>>29632
Insofar as your broad definition of communism is concerned, then, yes we will agree on some things. I took your identification of communism as what would be labeled as such on the compass, that is, the top-left corner. I was assuming the much stricter definitions, and for that, I apologize.
As far as the compass itself, I didn't have the unedited image on me, so I went and found a facsimile I knew existed in another board's sticky.
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No.29642
>>29636
The goal of political debate is, ultimately, to destroy the core beliefs of another and replace them with one's own.
Discourse gets messy, then, because one's core beliefs are used to define oneself.
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No.29643
Without discussing the politics themselves, I know that feel. Having a clear picture of how things should and could operate (in your view), and living in a world that differs vastly from that vision, is a very unkind experience.
You feel alienated, isolated, depressed.
Find happiness in whatever way you can, OP. But don't pin it on a light at the end of the tunnel. Try to live in the moment when possible. That's the only way to cope.
LET ME POST SPICYSPHERES.
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No.29655
Are you a commie, or are you a """"""commie""""""?
If you are a commie I'd be happy to go to war against you. If you are a """"""commie"""""" you should go get a job and move out of your parents house.
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No.29670
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No.29674
>>29655
>NEETSOC thinks it would be a war as opposed to a slapfight between a pair of pale and underweight historical re-enactors
>Trump and Putin wouldn't be tripping over each other repeat the pounding from both ends of the early to mid 40s
>probably has not even produced the 8 healthy children he owes his country, or held hands with a girl
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No.29678
>>29655
Are people supposed to be offended by the "Leftists Now" side of the second pic? It's just pictures of normal protesters, mixed in with SJWs and other people who I mostly don't recognize, except for Cornel West, who I think is an interesting speaker even when I disagree with him, and Chris Matthews, who I don't think is even really left-wing.
And I don't get why Stalin is on there either. I'd rather have to deal with SJWs than be sent to a gulag.
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No.29679
>>29678
I think they are supposed to look weak, compared to the left side.
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No.29686
>>29678
COMRADE CARD INDEX DID NOTHING WRONG
HOLODOMOR NOT REAL
RAPE NOT REAL
ALL WESTERN ATTEMPTS TO DESTABILIZE MOTHERLAND
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No.29758
>>29631
>>29632
Another left-libertarian here.
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No.29771
>>29642
>Discourse gets messy, then, because one's core beliefs are used to define oneself.
Bingo. The very thing that makes political debate what it is is very /unkind/. Though I'd say that certain types of people are more adept at handling it than others without it degrading into a mudslinging contest. As much as I hate the phrase itself, politics is personal. The thing is you really gotta emotionally detach yourself if you want to get things done or not completely overdo it and make some bad mistakes like I did in the past.
As for my own identity I guess I don't really have one. You can say that I'm left-leaning I guess.
I know I used the same pic in another thread but it's a lot more fitting here
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No.29774
Anybody else on /kind/ a minarchist?
I very much like the idea of a night-watchman state and a free market, however I despise big business syndicates. I think the classic right libertarian view should be tempered with business transparency and extremely severe and comprehensive penalties against dishonest and amoral policy.
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No.29784
Communism is not /kind/ anon
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No.29787
>>29784
I very much doubt the system OP is advocating is anything like what Stalin or Mao implemented. Stalin and Mao were both authoritarians, yet all the socialists/communists in this thread are libertarians. None of them would be building any gulags.
The mistake your making is one that a lot of people make when discussing things like this. You're paying more attention to the words themselves rather than the ideas they represent. Both OP and Stalin might call their ideal systems "communism", but what they mean by that is completely different. What you're saying is basically the same as using the DPRK (North Korea) as an example of why democracy is a bad system because it has democracy in its name.
Forget the word communism. Americans have been fed propaganda against it for more than 50 years. Just consider the actual policies OP supports.
Also, if you think that modern capitalism is /kind/, I have a bridge to sell you.
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No.29839
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No.29842
In theory, I would be an anarcho-individualist, but in practice I'm a moderate or a centrist. I'm not necessarily against radical change, but I'm very wary of its excesses.
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No.29910
>>29627
Time to post redpills then, friend.
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No.29914
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No.29917
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No.29918
>>29917
Time for redpills on the “Holocaust”
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No.29919
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No.29920
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No.29923
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No.29924
I'm bored, and suffering from insomnia. Give me your orders, and I might just follow them, Sir.
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No.29927
Stormfriends are truly the worst.
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No.29940
>>29927
Why does it bother you so much?
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No.29988
>29924
>Give me your orders, and I might just follow them, Sir.
Go to sleep. and rub yourself to the thought of daddy adolf gently spooning you in bed
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No.36786
>>29679
>top right
have the webm
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No.36787
>The year 2245
>"Establish" a communist colony at Trappist-1 star system
>Tell commies you can offer them passage aboard your ship, in exchange for whatever capital they have, as they won't need it at their new destination
>In reality, launch them directly into the Sun, interstellar flight isn't humanly possible, technology only supports trips within solar system
>Don't tell anyone, no one ever finds out about their fiery end
>Continue doing it, using acquired capital to increase advertising
Kindest thing I can think of doing to commies.
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No.36790
I would kindly request the anons spamming ideological image macros to consider propagating and consuming ideology through books, as opposed to memes. State and revolution, Kapital, and others are nice places to start. Contemporary analysis of the former can be useful in understanding the somewhat overly complex and dated content in Kapital.
>>36787
That's both scientifically inaccurate and very uncivil, please refer to board rules.
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No.36800
>live in 1st world service-information economy
>write about working class and bourgeise
i kek every time
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No.36812
>>36800
people still have to work in the first world, you know. I'm not sure what argument you're making here
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No.36816
>>36812
yes but you dont need to have father who is owner of a factory to be rich in life
if you have internet (it is for free in many places) you can learn from internet, download books, textbooks etc and get skills to use them in service sector or information sector, i know many people who learned programming only thanks to internet
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No.36826
>>36816
>you can learn from internet, download books, textbooks etc and get skills to use them in service sector or information sector
if you have the time and energy, sure. but lots of people who work, even in the service industry, are too consumed by their jobs to find the time to do that. just learning programming isn't a viable option for a lot of people, and even if it were, not everyone can be a programmer. someone will end up having to do the menial, soul-crushing jobs regardless, at least until automation really kicks in
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No.36830
i remember in teh year of our lord '92 when i went out and almost beat 2 communists to death. went to prison for it too lol
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No.36834
>>36826
that person should have learned programing earlier, in school years
also if someone sleeps 8 h and works 8h then he or she has 8h to study
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No.36841
>>29627
No, /kind/ is a NatSoc board.
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No.36842
>>36834
>that person should have learned programing earlier, in school years
pic related
also, you're acting as if people in their school years don't have to spend their time working. I personally have been blessed with a nice, comfortable upbringing, but a lot of my classmates weren't so lucky, and they had to get jobs to help support their families. it's easy to say that people less fortunate than ourselves should have just tried harder, but things are rarely that simple
>>36841
truley epic
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No.36844
>>36841
/kind/ is apolitical board and i really wish politics threads would just die
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No.36846
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No.36856
I'm an individualist anarchist
doesn't mean I'm not /kind/ to others though!
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No.36857
>this, from the board that would call kindness itself a spook
There is nothing /kind/ about far-left thought. It is a group of ideologies that become nihilistic through materialism and denial of the existence of anything that challenges it. Worse, it demands the world join it, by force, and then proceeds to kill everyone who disagrees, so everyone can be miserable together or dead. Unless you're an official, in which case you get to live in splendor.
And I don't know if any leftists have a shred of credibility left here anyways, considering the campaign of subversion their board has actively, intentionally, and maliciously executed on literally every other fucking board on the site and even websites abroad.
You're not welcome anywhere.
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No.36861
>>36857
Please don't be rude to our egoist friends, who like us for what we are, not for what we appear to be.
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No.36864
>>29634
hey nice idea, here's mine from the time i was about 13 yo to now
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No.36875
>>36864
>>29674
>>29634
>>29631
this thing looks like bullshit.
progressivism is in the right and national socialism is in the left?
what
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No.36877
>>36844
I agree with this anon. Politics is pretty unkind in general. The only problem is, I can't stop myself from talking about politics. But today, just for you, anon, I will exercise my willpower and try not to respond to people in this thread, even though a part of me really wants to.
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No.36937
>be me
>feeling ill
>come to /kind/ to feel better
>have to read about the 'bones of the working class' and other politics, a topic which has crept into every corner of our lives and which it is now almost impossible to escape from
>feel worse
I just have to ask: why?
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No.36951
>>36937
just hide the thread, friend
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No.37825
Hoppe-friend here politely asking all leftists to leave, so to speak.
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No.37835
>>37825
Please don't bump this shit thread
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No.39155
>>29627
>blind hatred of their Other in fascism
Hatred of the other is unnecessary to do what is needed to better ones people. If a policy helps our people it is a good policy. If a policy does not help our people in the struggle for survival it is a bad policy. Not conservative or liberal thinking, but tribal thinking. Thinking tribally it is best to pursue your group interests in a systematic, rational way. Economic system is irrelevant in that. Political universalism is the politics of fools.
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No.39156
>>29774
In such a state wouldn't that mean the rule of the lawyer class?
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No.39164
I'm a big Trump supporter but don't really fit in anywhere politically. I'm too hardcore for places like Breitbart, but I don't care about trad role-playing or "fighting degeneracy." My support for that stuff only really extends to disincentivizing certain behaviors and getting them out of people's faces. Anyone else in the same boat?
I'm saging this thread and all, but I feel like this is something I have to get off my chest. I might as well keep politics out of the other threads and post it here.
>>36844
>>36877
True.
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No.39649
>>29640
Soc. Dem here. Most internet radicals generally mock and demean anyone who isn't them. Don't let them get to you. Keep your head and decide for yourself what you think is best.
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No.39650
>>39155
What's best for one's people can be what's directly worse for an individual's liberty. A policy that ensures purity by banning interracial marriages l, for example, directly infringes on the individual's right to choose who they marry and why. The ability for all freethinking adult individuals to actualize themselves in whatever way they choose, barring infringing other individuals, free from want and fear, is the prime goal of civilization, in my opinion.
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No.39664
>>29627
With all due respect, you DO realise that a communist society will STILL make you work yourself to death? For less reward too than under capitalism too.
It isn't a free ride, the crux of a communist society is that you do your bit for that society without question lest you be deemed useless and are removed. You would be treated akin to a worker ant.I'm no right winger but I know what side my bread is buttered and at least under capitalism I can earn a better life for myself .
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No.39666
>>39664
Maybe people don't want the responsibility of charting their own life. They rather have big state come and tell them what job to work, where to work, what to do, wear, think, eat and say.
Being lost is scary. These big ideologies solve everything for you and give you a framework to simplify the world. You don't even have to think.
So you work your crap job, get paid by daddy communist government or get thrown in the gulag.
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No.39667
>>39666
>get thrown in gulag
B- but anon, true communism has never been tried!
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