/hikki/ - Hikikomori

>>4214

Hey thanks friend, glad to be here. I relate to this way too hard. My parents have tried again and again to "normalize" me whilst enabling my addictions to comfort and solitude. Part of me thinks that they think I'm just a retard who can't take care of himself in the real world, hence why they continue to pay for me to live this way. It's not that farfetched considering they're the type of people who think social retardation and actual stupidity are one in the same. In actuality though I could get a job, make friends and live the normie life if I so desired. I have before. I just don't want any part of it. It hurts to be a burden and a disappointment, but at the same time, it's worth it to not have to deal with any of that mess.

>>4215

I get it man all too well. The more I look at my family the more I realize I don't want to be like them, even if they are "happy". They're brainwashed by mainstream media and by others telling them how they need to live. They can't sit in silence for 2 seconds without going crazy and turning on the tv or radio so they can be force fed more junk from other people who are also weak in this way. People are so convinced that work and family are essential for a happy life, but how can that be? Sometimes I think about building a cabin in the woods so I can break free from that cycle and get away from everyone and everything and live in complete solitude, though I know I don't have the know how or skill set to be able to do so. It makes me depressed knowing that eventually I will just have to give in and start being a slave to society rules and expectations.

>>4218

> It makes me depressed knowing that eventually I will just have to give in and start being a slave to society rules and expectations.

You should go to the catalog and check out the working from home thread also a user on here has already tried to go live in the woods it didn't workout for them instead they left the hikki life and ended up wagecucking at Wal-Mart.

No guilt at all. It's their fault. I did not make this society, I was just born into it. If they wanted me to contribute to their world they should not have made it so hostile to people like me that I see no other choice than to hide from it.

>>4220

>If they wanted me to contribute to their world they should not have made it so hostile to people like me that I see no other choice than to hide from it.

This

>>4217

>teenager in an adults body

Jesus that hits way too close to home. I'm 23 and was never taught by anyone how to live in the real world. I have no clue about finances or anything like that, and it really makes me wonder why nobody ever took or takes the time to teach me anything. Whenever people are having "adult" conversations around me, I always panic because I know I won't be able to keep up due to my lack of understanding of the real world. Everything I know I've learned on the internet or from the small group of friends I had in high school, which isn't much. If it weren't for self help books and articles online I would be a complete bumbling retard without any semblance of emotional intelligence whatsoever even. I feel guilty blaming my parents, but who else is there to blame? They never parented me and now I'm forever 16. It's embarrassing.

Sending hugs and positive vibes your way anon

>>4220

Never thought of it like this, but hell you sure make a lot of sense anon. I never wanted to play by these rules so why should I have to in a world that's so cruel to unattractive and socially awkward introverts. I'd rather just sit on the side lines and watch from a distance. It's the only way I can be happy.

>>4219

Yeah that sounds like exactly what would happen to me as well. Thanks anon, I'll check it out

>>4227

If I didn't know any better I'd think I was talking to my clone lol. I didn't learn things like laundry until my 20s either. Society makes being a slow learner a drag, but you're right, we gotta stay strong and remind ourselves that we're not stupid or anything, just a bit behind when it comes to certain things.

Mind if I ask what anime these screens are from btw? I'm really digging the artstyle

>>4228

>Mind if I ask what anime these screens are from btw? I'm really digging the artstyle

The one at the top is from Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei and the character in that pic is Kiri who is a hikikomori and the other one i'm not sure tbh.

>>4229

Shit dude that's rough, I'm really sorry to hear that. My parents never talk to me about anything so I know how it is. The best thing you can do is read books and educate yourself to get some understanding of how to take care of yourself and be around other people.

Terribly sorry to hear about your mom, I can't imagine the shit you must be feeling right now. Stay strong anon. Sending hugs your way <3

>>4228

>I didn't learn things like laundry until my 20s either

I also didn't learn how to use the kitchen stove or oven until i was 21 i've always known how to use the microwave but i never learned how to use the stove and oven until i was 21.

>>4230

Thanks a bunch anon. Cant wait to watch this

>>4232

Same here. And at 23 I still don't know how to drive. It's painful being so hopeless

>>4231

Oh thanks man I don't know really how to reply but thanks for showing that you care

I'll try to read books yeah Also I've one online friend that I really love him so it doesn't get so lonely

>>4235

That's good to hear. And of course man, np. Hikki neets gotta look out for each other.

>>4236

I panic out in public too but it didn't used to be that way. I know I can get better at it again if I just went out more. It sucks having to hover around trusted ones just to feel comfortable. Makes me feel like even more of a burden when I rely on others to help me function out in public

>>4229

>I didn't get used to buy food and feed myself

Have a look at >>>/fit/, or other bodybuilding sites, they probably have some nutrition guides with example meal plans and recipes. Once you have a meal plan with recipes, make a list of all the ingredients you need and buy them.

Youtube and some experimentation can teach you all you need about cooking and baking. Don't worry if things don't work out quite right in the beginning. The most important part of cooking is that you get a meal out of it. Who cares if its perfect, or could be better, as long as it feeds you?

OP have you ever heard of hikkichan.com??.

>>4239

We also have a food thread on here.

>>4238

>t didn't used to be that way. I know I can get better at it again if I just went out more. It sucks having to hover around trusted ones just to feel comfortable. Makes me feel like even more of a burden when I rely on others to help me function out in public

I pretty much feel the same way anon.

>>4240

Not until a few days ago when I found this board. All I know is that it got shut down and a lot of its users migrated here. Why do you ask?

>>4239

>>4229

Good advice. I second this. Youtube is a good place to learn a lot of things like that if you're not able to get your hands on any books

>>4239

Oh you guys are very supportive thank you Also I will start learn how to cook honestly I'm in a serious need for it because I can't stand fast food and junk food that makes me feel horrible afterwards

I perfer to eat healthy and I eat at least 2 meals a day so it's not very hard

Anyways thanks man for your help

>>4245

>The part that hurts the most is when people still have expectations of you when you have already given up.

I know right it's like why do they keep on trying in the first place??.

>>4245

This.

My mother has told me that she has dreams about me when I was a child. She and the rest of my family have grown to secretly hate the person I've become now that I don't bring smiles to their faces anymore. It's not my job to do so though. People change. I don't wanna be an entertainer for them, I just want to be myself. Too bad "myself" isn't appealing to others, especially extroverts. They can't understand how awful the outside world is for introverts who are plagued with anxiety, and I've given up on trying to educate them on it. Everything sucks and will continue to suck for us. No amount of effort is going to change that, so why put any forth at all.

>>4247

Ah, interesting history lesson. Didn't realize this board was so young still. I seriously gotta thank you for making it and weaving out the cancer. To be honest despite being a hikki for multiple years I've never been that into "board culture" before. I've lurked on 4chan and reddit in the past but only to find media to torrent. Never interacted with anyone on those. This is the first real post I've ever made on any board due to how unmotivated I am to type up thoughtful posts and replies. It's embarrassing to admit, but when I initially discovered this board I started tearing up like a faggot while reading through all the posts because of how much I empathized with everyone here. In the moment I thought to myself "Holy shit, there are other people like me in the world." I had known of neets, but I knew that my lifestyle was far more extreme than people who simply didn't have jobs or education. I'm glad there's a place for me here, so thank you.

Hikkichan sounds like a nightmare. Good riddance

>>4254

>aaah, I remember it. It was intended to be a backup board for hikichan. Now that hikichan is dead it became the legacy hikichan.

All that's left of hikkichan is the shitty Discord server which is full of normies and this board which originally was competing against it LOL.

>>4253

>It's embarrassing to admit, but when I initially discovered this board I started tearing up like a faggot while reading through all the posts because of how much I empathized with everyone here. In the moment I thought to myself "Holy shit, there are other people like me in the world." I had known of neets, but I knew that my lifestyle was far more extreme than people who simply didn't have jobs or education. I'm glad there's a place for me here, so thank you.

You are very welcome man you definitely do have a place here and we are glad to have you.

>>4261

>Wake up at 7.. am

>Go to work

>Work from 7 to 5

>Go home

>Play video games

>Internet

>Sleep

Jesus it might as well have been Reddit

>>4268

>Jesus it might as well have been Reddit

I know right now if they were a recovering or former hikki who is now trying to or is now back out in society again that would make sense but no there were a lot of people on there who have never actually lived the hikikomori lifestyle some of them were even just neets with productive social lives as well.

>>4222

This 2

OP if you have any questions about the board or any suggestions or feedback you would like to give just talk to me in the meta thread above.

>>4300

I will. Again, thanks for being so welcoming.

>>4316

> Again, thanks for being so welcoming.

Your welcome.

I don't have any social anxiety, I think I could easily "fix myself", go out, get a job, and do what my parents want. The problem is, I have no desire to do so, it's beyond laziness, I'm just completely apathetic, I don't see the point in working 8 hours a day, then spend a few hours on the internet because I have no energy to do anything else, and repeat the cycle for the rest of my life. Even if I made millions, I still wouldn't want it since the only things I need are "the basics", it seems so pointless to get a job. I honestly admire the very few people that have a job they enjoy doing.

By the way, how do you guys deal with your parents trying to force you out? Specially the ones that don't have mild autism or any excuse like that. My parents are very pushy and since I'm healthy and young (23 yo) they are constantly attacking me for doing nothing.

>>4323

They threaten to kick me out every now and then if I do not do x, y and z. Then they cool down again and everything goes back to normal for some time. Then the cycle repeats. I mean, I am their product so they should take responsibility for it. Either kill me or leave me alone.

>>4323

I feel the exact same way. Everyone in my family strives to have the nicest things possible and are willing to work themselves beyond their limits to obtain said things. My parents literally do coke so they can push themselves hard enough to work for unreasonably long hours to afford the things they want, not need. They have to live in the nicest possible house, have the biggest tv on the market, all the latest phones, gadgets etc. and they're still not content when something new and better comes around. They think I'm crazy for staying in my room all the time with only a bed, a small monitor, a computer and a couple game consoles. But as long as I have a source of food/water, comfort, information and entertainment with some hobbies, I'm completely content with how things are; as long as I'm somewhat comfortable (ie: not freezing or starving or something).

I feel like they're the ones who need "fixing". The lengths they're willing to push themselves just for possessions and "status" is mind-boggling to me. It's not like they love their job or anything either. It's hard fucking work what they do. There is just no way I could ever see how going through all of that would be worth it.

My parents are too afraid to even talk to me let alone confront me about serious topics, so they don't bug me about leaving and getting a job too much. But they do drop little hints here and there expressing their want for me to get out and move on. My step father was the only one who ever said anything to me about it, and he ended up beating the shit out of me when I failed to give in to his requests after a certain amount of time had passed. Could've just asked me about why I choose to live this way, but nah. Don't really know why every one is so afraid to talk to me. Makes me wonder if they feel guilty about how badly I was raised or something, so they just kinda let me do what I want.

23 here too anon, cheers.

>>4326

A lot of people have told me the same thing, and I can relate, they can threaten you all they want, but because they feel responsible for you, they never kick you out.

>>4327

I'm glad we share the same vision. If we talk about solutions, the only thing that comes to mind is working on something you enjoy, or something that you don't mind doing and doesn't make you a slave. Of course this sounds easy, but it's VERY hard to achieve, oh well, I guess we'll stay in front of our screens until we figure something out.

By the way, do your parents work in the fields in South America? I've read people do that (doing cocaine) in Bolivia.

>>4327

haha, I can already see your parents coming to you and telling they are destroying themselves so you can have the biggest house possible. Truly, the worst desease is when your eyes are hungry. Because this is a hunger that cannot be sated ever. I truly pity such people. Your life is short already, why waste it with working more than necessary to survive with a decent life.

>my stepfather hit me

You should hit him back next time he dares to touch you.

>>4329

those are the beautifulest moments in my daily life. When strangers over the internet send me how they can identify with the shit I post. Thank you brother

>>4343

>those are the beautifulest moments in my daily life. When strangers over the internet send me how they can identify with the shit I post. Thank you brother

I know right and no problem man.

>>4323

>>4326

Sadly, my parents enable my lifestyle by never pushing me or teaching me to be independent. My dad couldn't care less, and he's never really been present in my life. My mom very rarely gives a halfhearted attempt to have me get a job by printing out an application for a tech/maintenance position at the school at which she works. They're both about to be retired so we'll all be living the NEET life together.

If my family wasn't so dysfunctional I'd be able to be a productive stay at home son. I used to cook a lot, but every time I cleaned up and organized the kitchen, my parents never bothered to help keep it that way and I just gave up. I fantasize about setting up a garden in the backyard, but there's a ton of random things taking up space, like my dad's brewing equipment, tools and hardware strewn about on the lawn, and a bunch of boxes with random outdated trash that my parents don't want to let go of; in the garage, there's a massive pile of overflowing boxes with more garbage. Whenever I've tried cleaning up these areas, my mom gets angry whenever she sees me throwing something out and tells me to put it back, or tells me that she'll do it, and she never does. My dad doesn't care but he's clearly fine living in such a mess of a home.

>>4440

>my parents enable my lifestyle by never pushing me or teaching me to be independent. My dad couldn't care less, and he's never really been present in my life.

See for me my parents continue to enable my lifestyle without even realizing it while at the same time screaming at me to go outside and get a job in the outside world.

>>4443

>. I am very grateful to people who answer my questions on how to do basic things that I never learned.

Same here.

>>4470

>i have little to no work experience so after a year of job hunting i just gave up

I know what that's like. I've only held 2 jobs in my life and I haven't had a job in over 2 years, so I get nervous about the thought of having to explain the large gap in job history.

>i want my own place and the freedom to live independently on my own but honestly i don't even know what would happen to me if i got my own place and i'm kinda scared to be honest i don't know if i will succeed in the outside world

That scares me too. Like a lot of people in this thread said already, most hikikomoris haven't been taught what they need to know to function normally in the outside world. I may know how to do my laundry and drive, but I have no idea how to pay bills or do taxes. I'm afraid that if I get out on my own, I'll eventually get a knock on my door from the IRS or the police because I forgot to pay some tax or bill, and I doubt they will be very sympathetic to me when I tell them "I didn't know how."

>>4475

>I have no idea how to pay bills or do taxes. I'm afraid that if I get out on my own, I'll eventually get a knock on my door from the IRS or the police because I forgot to pay some tax or bill, and I doubt they will be very sympathetic to me when I tell them "I didn't know how."

I tried doing that shit in high school and i couldn't handle it it stressed me out too much.

>>4212

My first post here as well. I feel tremendous guilt at the amount of pain my existence has caused my family members. My family tried their best to get me to integrate with society. Two different family members gave me jobs at their small businesses. I was fired from both after six months. Despite them denying it, I know my parents asked the family members to hire me. My step grandmother at my last job 2 years ago said to me "Ever since you started working here, I feel like my world has started falling apart". I feel like nowadays whenever I'm near my parents we almost bring each other to tears. My mother is constantly sniffling. My father just struggles to talk to me.

I don't really know why I don't get along in this world. People I have talked to online have told me I'm autistic, but I was never diagnosed. I think I just have a bad personality. I'm abrasive, lazy and I use my intellect to get out of things. I would be fine if I didn't bring anyone happiness, but I fear I am bringing misery upon my family members.

>>4505

I don't think I can handle another thanksgiving or christmas like this. If I didn"t take the multiple mg of Xanax or klonopins like the last few family holidays I probably would've went missing or finally visited my hospitals psychward.

>>4229

That's sad to hear Anon. I wish you the best of luck in the world, your parents might be gone but you'll always have us if you need someone who cares to talk with.

>>4247

I was a regular there and visited the site a day before it got shut down. The site owner stated that he was shutting it down because of low traffic. He also said some other stuff but I can't remember those bits. I do miss it a bit but I'm happy that I don't have to deal with CP and normies anymore.