/hikki/ - Hikikomori

No, basically there's as less people as you can imagine who's aware of that diseases either in the West and the East so as a result there's barely anyone who's aple to understand us quiet enough so that he can start take us seriously instead of saying some dump sentences such as ( oh buddy you gotta leave your room, oh don't be a faggot you do browse gay born on pornhup don't you, oh hope our mom is realizing what she had raised an actual freak lol XD) if we were understandable enough then we will find people to help us GlOBALly not only based on some countries where they're suffering from this issue, if there were enough doctors, places to help us then most likely this place will not come into existence in the first place we are here because of the lack of people who understand us and don't call us names, we here due to the lack of medical information about us, we ourselves lackness the awareness of our situation then that's the responsibility of the medicine care system all around the world that's if they even want to help us in the first place in spite of being the individuals we are hiding from and avoiding their way of life

>>2352

>diseases

I wouldn't consider being a hikikomori a disease it's more so an extreme reaction to society's stress Japan and Italy only see it as some kind of disease.

>>2351

>>2352

Other peoples inability and unwillingness to understand social isolation is probably one of the reasons I never talked about it before.

But I have the feeling it is getting more and more common. The examiners next question was if I at least watch TV or read the papers, because he had met people who refuse to to even that.

>>2353

Might be language confusion. I'd call it an illness. It's an unfortunate and unpleasant condition caused by the world acting on the sufferer without an apparent cause. A disease (as I understand it) is an illness that can be spread from person to person.

>>2353

>>2354

Yeah indeed I didn't mean to call it a disease within the meaning you've realized of it, I sometimes even wonder if this hikkimori thing is a higher rate of consciousness we had get from the consequences of not living in the actual world for more than years so thus, we cannot find nomeaning in this world anymore nor there's anything seems interesting we likely want more knowledge seeking to enter another level of consciousness where we will be able to discover a new world from the vary beginning of it

>>2355

I consider my unpleasant condition to be an illness. Albeit one of the soul, rather than the body. My situation fells like something that happened to me, about as much as it is the result of things I do.

Isolation is not a natural or advantageous state of being for a human. I'd probably live happier, healthier, and longer if I could leave my home and form stable relationships with the people around me. I also did not chose to isolate myself, nor did anybody force me, nor do I believe that it is an inevitable result of my personality (the way I am). Yet, here I sit. Unable to change because any attempt to change the situation causes me more mental and physical pain than I am able to bare.

Thank you for the book. It looks interesting. I might send a copy to my doctor after I read it.

>>2357

> I'd probably live happier, healthier, and longer if I could leave my home and form stable relationships with the people around me. I also did not chose to isolate myself, nor did anybody force me, nor do I believe that it is an inevitable result of my personality (the way I am). Yet, here I sit. Unable to change because any attempt to change the situation causes me more mental and physical pain than I am able to bare

This is a common thing among hikkis as we most of the time do not choose to isolate ourselves we are simply victims of circumstance.

>Thank you for the book. It looks interesting. I might send a copy to my doctor after I read it.

Your welcome.

I told my therapist. She gave me a look of thinly veiled contempt.

Nope, its pointless as the average person simply doesn't understand. Average normalfag thinks recluses are lazy manchildren at best and while not too far off the mark; they can't nor will not understand WHY people withdraw and become like that.

They simply brush off anything they don't understand with useless "advice" and when it comes to hikkis its no different.

>>2362

I think it goes father than a simple lack of understanding. (Just look at >>2361 for an example.) Most people seem to outright reject the reality of mental illness. Probably because the are afraid of it.

Everybody has had at least some experience being depressed or manic or unreasonable afraid of something or of otherwise not being in full control of their actions. The thought that something like it could happen again and never end, that they could lose the illusion of control, must be pretty scary to someone who bases their self worth and identity around their actions and decisions.

>>2350

If I were to get a job in the near future, the thing that would scare me most is having to explain the large gap in my job history. The employer would inevitably ask why I haven't had a job in years, and I would have no idea what to say. One thing I have realized about most companies, is that they want normalfag employees. They want nearly brainless automatons who do nothing but work in the day, and use social media in the evening, that way they are constantly predictable and easy to survey. I want to find a way to support myself financially, but getting a normal job seems more and more difficult as time passes.

>>2392

>If I were to get a job in the near future, the thing that would scare me most is having to explain the large gap in my job history. The employer would inevitably ask why I haven't had a job in years, and I would have no idea what to say.

I know that feel anon i would feel the same way.

>>2392

Are you me, anon? Because I think this every fucking day and night.

>>2350

A similar moment I had is when years ago I told my mother I was depressed and she should stop pushing me to get a job because what I needed was mental health help.

It's one of those pretty strong emotional moments, when you have to say things as they are.

Anyway, my therapist knows about hikikomori, he's well-informed, I didn't have to explain anything.

>>5894

Are you in Japan? How's therapy going?

>>5897

> he had the typical oh just get over it normalfag type of attitude but anyway i'm glad i stopped going.

It's sad how many therapists treat their job like its a pasttime they indulge in whenever they feel like it, and for everyone else they're just stalling for time until the end of the session so they can charge you that sweet $$$$$

>>2350

I talked to a therapist, but I didn't use the word hikikomori. Just listed all the symptoms of autism that I have, and by that I mean that I listed almost every imaginable symptom.

>>5901

They are about as incompetent as the average human tends to be. And that means completely incompetent. In order to feel better, people like to assume that most professionals and authority figures know what they're doing, and that keeps them from losing faith in society, and therefore keeps society from collapsing. In reality, this isn't the truth at all. No matter what they do, no matter how important it is, people tend to be more incompetent than you want to imagine. Finding a good therapist (or just one that does whatever happens to be necessary) can take a few tries.

>>5897

>Is he/she a good therapist

Yes. Still not helpful though because I'm a lost cause.

Yes, I've read in another thread about your 70 years old therapist. It amuses me that you went there more than one time. An old dude who doesn't use a computer can't know a thing about modern world problems. If you ever consider going to therapy again, try to find at least a young one. i tried other three therapists before finding this one, it's not that easy.

>>5899

I'm in Europe. I've abandoned therapy because I'm a lost cause, I feel like an alien amongst others and I have no purpose in life and this will never change, I can only distract myself.

I went outside and met people though, but it's useless, so I'm back into my nest. My problem is not much anxiety, it's more about a neverending existential crisis.