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While the game is still in progress, The goal is to make a text based dating sim with tons of alt routes and multiple play styles. I just started on making Day03, so let me know what you think and how to improve. I'm aware of most of the typos and inconsistencies but I'm not the best at grammar so any help is appreciated.
Game Link: https://allthefallen.ninja/forum/index.php?attachments/lolicon_market_0-2_final_revised-twine1-4-2-html.185837/
(direct link)
(trying not to fuck up the thread like I did last time.)
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No.336720
>>336666
>Added Nanako Event
>Revamped Setup
>Small fixes
>tons of typo fixes
>forgot to add names to credits. i honestly need a list of people
>Added Randy Lone Event
>redid tons of variables(took days)
>not a playable fix, but fixed bug that made working on the source code easier. was lagging really bad and fixed by oddly renaming passages
>Added Arisa Day03 intro
>Improved tons of events
>added typing effect on some events and passages
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No.336739
Sorry dev, found a few typos.
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No.336749
Bug (android):
Day 3 start broken if having apron and calling sister pervert route. Only a list of items with no option for next. Workng if choosing the other option.
Glad to see new content even though some options aren't really options. Events are still rather linear with a lot of choices that do nothing or force reset.
Surprised that for a world that supposedly brings death to pedos the audience is "shocked" by your attack on a pedo in action.
Fight was alright, with enough cues in the text to give right choice. Though I don't get how a knee to the liver works more than kicking the back of his knee in. Seemed counterintuitive that a more outlandish move works over a simple one while your opponent is monologueing.
Are you supposed to build affection with Nanako during lo-mart scene? If so, relationship meter not displaying it.
Also Day 3 and already having 6 (7 if including amber) lolis like you. If you're going to have a one true route for each one as well as harem… That's gonna be a lot of work.
Godspeed loliconman.
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No.336935
>>309387
I found about your game yesterday and I just wanted to say that I enjoyed it. Never reached any sex scene yet (if there is any), but the game feels pretty solid and I'm eager to play the finished product
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No.336946
This game is great so far, the writing is really well done, but it needs some sex added to it at this point. I understand if you want to build up the lewd to make it more satisfying, but save that for the finished product. For now start adding lewd early into the game for the early followers(to keep them sticking around), then when the game is closer to completion you can push those same lewd scenes further back into the plot to give more build up and fit into the story better.
I only suggest this because from what I understand this game will be a full 30 days at a minimum, so at the rate it's being developed(no fault on you, I get you are just 1 dev), it's going to be a very long time until its near finished. Can't have it take til like 20 days for some actual sex scenes or people will get inpatient and abandon. Also, I get that this has bad end choices, but you should prob add a manual save feature. It allows people to experiment easier with all the other paths without having to redo the entire game. By not having manual saving you aren't really changing anything, only making it more tedious for the player. Instead of simply loading a save, they are just going to memorize all their choices, restart the game and skip through all the dialogue as quickly as possible until they get to the choice they want to make, so it only adds annoyance by not having a manual save. This game has a ton of potential though, you really know how to write a plot and good convincing characters, keep it up.
Between this game, Degrees of Lewdity, and Sim Loli, there are now 3 really solid western loli games being developed. I really hope all 3 of them reach completion.
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No.336960
I don't know if it's possible to improve both Redia's and Suiko's love in the latest version. I remember I played quite a bit day 2 and I wasn't able to do it.
>>336935
>Never reached any sex scene yet (if there is any
Lilith is waiting for you Day 2 morning, school bathrooms.
>>336946
>you should prob add a manual save feature
Abilities » Create memories
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No.337032
>>336935
There are a few lewd scenes right now.
Arisa: Kiss, Loliconman too far, Apron
Redia: Locker room
Suiko: Shower + bunny repair + kiss
Sara: a kiss
Lilith: the only sex, some oral
Karen: Flashes panties for you
Nanako: a kiss
>>336960
Improve how?
Currently at end of day 3 part 1
Redia had the school scene in day 2 to boost up to 200 love
Suiko had the shower scene in day 1 for 120 love
I avoided going to visit suiko to meet the new character at lo-mart, but that is prob also a way to raise affection
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No.337552
>>337032
>>336960
>Lilith
Yeah, I got Lilith, but to be honest, I enjoyed Arisa, Redia and Suiko scenes more. I'm more into vanilla/innocent shit
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No.337620
How the fuck do you get the lucky shirt? I want some goddamn panties.
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No.337623
>>337032
My bad, I meant day 1 afternoon. When Arisa brings her friends home, can I both repair Suiko's bunny and give Arisa the game cartridge? (I haven't fully explored their routes, I don't know if it is possible).
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No.337628
>>337623
>give Redia* the game cartridge
fify. Also, yes you can.
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No.337632
>>337620
Check your old locker
Also the story reminds be a bit of Chuusotsu Roudousha kara Hajimeru Koukou Seikatsu Roudousha
>MC has to work to take care of his sister
>His family sees him as dead weight
>He's oftenly the bottom of the jokes
>Is not Mr. Personality
>Is constantly at the defensive
>Solves some of his issues with his fists
>His sister loves him well, not that way
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No.337810
>>337623
>repair Suiko's bunny
How do you do this?
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No.337843
>>337628
Thanks and sorry.
>>337810
Arisa goes to play in your bedroom with her friends. When you hear a moan, ignore it (choose the 2nd option).
You will bump into Suiko: from then on, the game is linear, with a few intuitive choices.
Pic related.
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No.337854
>>310650
Fat and oppai loli could be great.
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No.343402
Is there anywhere else to track/talk about this game? I want to see it go somewhere and I've been waiting since February – not that that's a bad thing for free, I just enjoyed it and want to see more.
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No.343411
>>343402
https://allthefallen.ninja/forum/index.php?threads/loliconman-games-lolicon-market.7720/
Cucktreon and Shitcord links are in the OP
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No.345721
>>343411
I agree both are shit. honesly have one just to hire a fucking artist.
>>343402
Shitcord and ATF is where i update.
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No.351232
>>345721
Having failed 6 times, maybe it's time to stop? Or at least make shitcord for the sole purpose of having people join and able to DM you (set everyone to unable to post anything). It's very easy to track your account once it's been flagged for loli though.
If people want discussion keep it to the safe sites and on the down low. You should consider coding the discord into the game itself too instead of posting it for the public to see.
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No.360423
Any update? Is this dead?
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No.360539
>>360423
>Any update? Is this dead?
It was finally dying and then you had to ask this stupid question with answer one post over yours.
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No.360553
>>360423
There was a post in the ATF thread that said the next version was likely to come out midway through this month, maybe earlier.
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No.364092
Those in this thread saying Loli are defined as girls that are prepubescent are incorrect as far as how it is defined and used in Japan.
The above illustration is a breakdown of the 4 age-related complexes. I'm going to skip Baby Complex because that's self-evident and briefly explain the other 3.
Heidi Complex (ハイジコンプレックス): these are the characters meant to appeal to paedophiles who are only attracted to prepubescent body types. If you never heard of this term before, it's for the same reason it's likely you're familiar with Yaoi (ヤオイ), but not Bara (薔薇). Yaoi is fan-fiction depicting men engaging in homosexual acts meant for heterosexual women who make up roughly 50% of the population. Whereas, Bara is made by, and for, homosexual men who make up a very small percent of the existing male population. If you search 'ロリ' (Loli) on Getchu, chances are extremely high you won't find a non-doujin title with prepubescent characters, rather you're going to find media with characters in the next two categories.
Alice Complex (アリスコンプレックス): this existed alongside Lolicon before ultimately being assimilated; it's hard to distinguish between the two. The characters are pubescent and can be impregnated, so the average heterosexual man may find these characters attractive depending on the situation. Often, modern Japanese internet users mistakenly believe only the characters in this age range are Loli. This is due to Lolicon becoming normalised in Japan after its ongoing battle with society back in the 80s and 90s.
ロリータコンプレックス (Lolita Complex): Underaged jail bait. A large proportion of anime and manga characters fall under this category. For example, Hatsune Miku from Vocaloid is a Loli character according to Miura Kentarou (三浦 建太郎), the creator of Berserk, who has been alive during the 1980s Lolicon Boom. The Lolicon Boom is called that because of an explosion in media featuring Lolita/Bishoujo (美少女) heroines. Before the Lolicon Boom, erotic comic magazines would draw characters with realistic anatomy and proportions until some comic artists started to employ the styles used in Shoujo comics aimed towards girls, where the female characters had exaggerated neotenic features with overly large heads and eyes. Azuma Hideo (吾妻ひでお), the father of Lolicon, used this art style and often gave his Lolita heroines voluptuous figures.
This new art style proved to be insanely popular in erotic Lolicon comic magazines like Comic Burikko (漫画ブリッコ), who previously focused on comics with the old, realistic style and nude photographs of junior idols. The readers of the magazine were so enamoured with this new art style that they kept sending letters to the editors of the magazine, asking them to remove the junior idol stuff to use the page space to make room for more comics. These people had a 2D-Complex and were not attracted to real women or children. They wanted to vicariously live out their 2D fantasies with the supernormally cute Lolita heroines. The editors finally relented, and this marked the beginning of the Lolicon Boom, and the birth of the 2D-Complex.
In 1983, a man called Nakamori Akio (中森明夫) started writing a column in Comic Burikko after attending Comiket. Nakamori did not like how the readers had a 2D-Complex, and after seeing the young people at Comiket happily interacting with their fanzines, cosplay, and love towards these 2D Lolita characters, decided to create a new word to refer to them and the other kinds of people he disliked, like the guys who would talk incessantly about radio equipment or sit in the back of a classroom, giving off a gloomy aura. That word was Otaku, and he would use the word to belittle the magazine's Lolicon reader base. Nakamori's column only lasted for several issues, with him being banned from using the word 'Otaku' in the final column, which didn't stop him from getting under the readers' skin in his grand finale. Many years later, Nakamori would have his revenge in 1989 when a guy called Miyazaki Tsutomu (宮﨑 勤) kidnapped and murdered little girls, and police found fanzines from Comiket and issues of Comic Burikko in his bedroom. Nakamori wrote a book called 'M Generation: Us and Miyazaki-kun' (Mの世代 ぼくらとミヤザキ君) about Miyazaki, and introduced the word Otaku to the mass media along with the idea that Comiket was a training ground or reserve army for future 'Otaku' like Miyazaki. Thus began society's hysterical battle against Lolicon and 2D-Complex.
In Japan, Lolicon isn't some niche genre marketed towards paedophiles, the first adult anime is called Lolita Anime (ロリータアニメ) and Enix published a game called Lolita Syndrome (ロリータ・シンドローム).
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No.364101
Unsubscribe from Pedo Facts
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No.364175
>>364092
I used to go by the "If I see it in Comic LO, it's loli" rule which has led me to be flamed by anime-only fans for "being a normalfag". I think there are just too many sub-cultures that share the word and have slightly different deviations on definition. It could be said that JP's definition is more correct, but I don't interact with that space. I'm a westerner that speaks english and not japanese so I only interact with western communities. As such, I've decided to drop the word from my vocab and just use "little girl"/"girl" instead.
Polite sage since it's not about the game.
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No.364222
>>364092
>coin a label to shun and belittle your readers who prefer 2d to 3d photographs of minor 'idols'
lmao
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No.364344
>>364092
>Those in this thread saying Loli are defined as girls that are prepubescent are incorrect as far as how it is defined and used in Japan.
> If you search 'ロリ' (Loli) on Getchu, chances are extremely high you won't find a non-doujin title with prepubescent characters
Contradicting yourself implying that Japanese people use it a certain way then excluding doujinshi which is much less filtered.
Also you a completely wrong you can find numerous examples any Anthology with ロリ in the title you can even find tanks aswell.
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No.365970
seems like atf has changed domain from ninja to moe
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No.366525
I can finally modify the affection values
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No.366548
>>365970
moe? Explain plz? I am very, very retarded. I tried allthefallen.moe but didn't get anything.
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No.366563
>>366548
You aren't, the URL is right but the site is down again. It worked until a few days ago.
Check their account for any news: twitter[.]com/allthefallen3
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No.371734
Updated Nov 2019. V0.3 right now.
Loliconman probably forgot about fullchan. Also either retarded or ballsy putting Loliconman as a cukctreon name. Not to mention still using shitscord for Loli.
Link: https://loliconman.itch.io/lolicon-market-02-finalrevisednsfw. ATF account needed for access to files.
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No.371808
>>371734
He stopped being procrastinationman and released a final day 3, he has been like that for like half a year or so.
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No.371809
>>371808
Fuck i forgot to add the "?"
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No.375376
Lolicon Market 0.3 Part Two Rev 8 (8.5?) on itch.io
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No.375388
>>375376
I had no idea this was still alive, I'll check it out.
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No.375429
>>375376
What the fuck even is this story? I came here to play with some little girls and the occasional boy , not fucking have a story about abuse, neglect and the human condition dealing with life issues.
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No.375448
>>371734
>>375429
the problem is that he doesn't give a shit about lolis and seems one of those belonging to "liking lolis=pedophile" crowd thinking faggots.
"The sister can't be blood related because it doesn't fit the story"
or maybe because he wants to keep jewtreon.
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No.375550
>>375448
I assume greed over all else, mostly cause it follows the pastern.
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No.378766
>>310650
There's gotta be a preggo route, as in beyond preg ending. Can always skip a few years if it's too much.
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No.378800
>>375429
>>375448
I remember a part with the hobo loli where the "game" rewinded time itself, so the dude might be aiming to make a Doki Doki Literature Club without making it too obvious, anyways, call me when it's done, if procrastination man actually completes the "game"
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No.378841
I assume this game is dead then?
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No.378843
>>378841
Something like that, one or two mini-updates per year
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No.378904
>>378841
This site is dead, but yes, also the game. Could be ding dong bannu'd at any moment with a global report, but no one cares enough to snitch on threads for Ron's new rule.
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No.378933
>>309387
Fucking hell. I just gave this a try outta pure lark and I was not prepared for that intro. A four year-old being faced with teenage twattery and pure vitriol only to show nothing but love. Almost brought a tear to my eye.
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No.378934
>>378933
Christ, the tone did a 180 with the tomboy and the tree girl. Why can't these lolis just lead happy lives? They're 2D people, they're not supposed to suffer like we do
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No.379875
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No.379946
>>378841
For some reason, game dev thought posting the game on reddit was a good idea.
Got reported, had to move out of town, and only recently started working on it again.
Go to ATF for details.
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No.379995
>>379946
Loliconman here.
Didnt get moved out of town. Game is still active and been working with people to help with some coding.
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No.380227
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