No.234540 [Last50 Posts]
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>Shihai no Kyoudan is out http://www.bishop.gr.jp/products/pod/index.html
>Sansha Mendan pristine excellent translation released: https://dekirutranslations.wordpress.com/2017/11/30/sansha-mendan-immoral-edition-full-translation-patch/
Links to Sofmap drama CD's
Anju Matsuura (KTJK): https://mega.nz/#!2y4A2TxI!RzEauBC2cP-GcjVexE8PQNn4Qw96OBxAaDLsXCJ8Hnw
Miria Matsubara (SnK): https://mega.nz/#!zjQznCZR!GRI_eQwlgHMkUgUekiJAISwEgZyRQ4S6v4mvjGgIdrs
So to get the party reinvigorated, let me start in with this: I am thoroughly satisfied with SnK but I think there are two things missing, the first being non-H scenes where the girls are shown off first ala previous Bishop titles. We haven't had that for the last two games and though it saves on time and budget not to have them it did lend a certain something to games which do have them. It's fun to see the girls in their native habitat or routine before the protag hard comes in.
The second thing is an explicit event where the protag explains the "breeding" motive like in KTJK (we just go from enslavement to ritual breeding sessions and it feels a bit like we skipped a scene, but maybe it's just me).
What do you think, anons?
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No.234547
>tfw you just realize the girls squirt when the protag cum-inflates
But anyway here's what I meant. Scenes like this.
And looking again, I can't see the last time they did this outside of MK4. I mean I guess CnS did it but that's somewhat cheating since it wasn't with all the girls and those scenes were reused for peeping gameplay.
Not even HK3, KJ or SnC before KTJK did it. They haven't done these in years. Man I miss this.
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No.234564
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No.234676
Still think it would be nice if they did something a bit different from school setting like Yakata again. Girls in fancy dresses just makes you want to go all rip and tear on them.
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No.234785
>>234676
I know what you mean. Even an elite school setting could pull that off, or maybe a military academy game.
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No.234791
>>234785
this sound cool
every sex act would be an order
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No.234812
I'm going in for Kotomi's route next. Just finished Moeka. It was pretty funny how her character changed and become more serious for a while only for it to be revealed she was trying emulate a mature and cool demeanor she read from a magazine.
>>234791
>every sex act would be an order
haha That's pretty killer.
>you can have disciplinary sex acts
>impregnating inside a tank
>enslaving your superior officer
>sluttifying your inferiors
>all the possibilities in uniform
It'd be a neat compromise between the school setting and something new, like they did with Gakuen 3.
Though I had another idea a while back about a game where you play against another protag.
The protag is obsessed with the heroines but for whatever reason he doesn't make a move until he sees another guy targeting them and this rival is basically like a classic Bishop protag. He even has an assistant who is also a possible heroine (you can re-corrupt/train her for you instead, basically stealing the girl from the guy who wants to steal your girls).
It's a game where you are always just barely one step ahead in each girl's route (except his assistant's), trying to keep from losing the girl you choose (or all of them) by corrupting her/them before your rival does.
I suppose the tension would be mostly narrative dressing since there's no way to really implement the possibility of losing in any girl's route without making it have some kind of AliceSoft gameplay or something. It could still have the same format as SnK, KTJK etc. but the story would be more like MK3, or maybe MK4 since it all revolves around the sex itself.
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No.235051
>>234812
I don't think a game like that will happen (the two MC thing), especially retraining an already made slave, Bishop girls are very devoted sluts, so the idea of them betraying their master is not likely.
In any case, I was reading the harem scene of SNK, and while hot, I have a few complaints, though mostly due to personal preference
A: lining up asses for the first scene. I'm sorry, but that strucks me as the laziest Harem position
B: no cum inside.
C: None of the girls sucked Miria's tit. C'mon, having one of the girls suck on the lactating heroine tits is gold, like kiyoka sucking Kaede or Narumi and Hatsune on Mifuyu. Sure the MC did it, but that's not the same
And those are my small nit pick.
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No.235052
>>234564
This archive is incomplete
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No.235218
>>235051
There was cum inside, anon.
Lining up asses is fine as well but I can see how the angling was disappointingly average. In MK4 for example they did the ass side-by-side thing but from a different angle.
And yeah, that there was not one scene of Miria titty bullying by the other girls was very disappointing. Then again I guess it makes sense for their characters' personalities.
Comparing it to SM which had the most character and personality in its harem ending is a bit unfair I think, since that's the crown jewel of Bishop harem endings, but yeah I can see your points, anon. SnK's harem ending is fun and pretty but striving for that fun filthy tussle you see in SM would have been choice.
>And those are my small nit pick.
Then what are the bigger complaints?
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No.235223
Speaking of SM, I mean just look at these shots alone. It's not like the girls lack personality in any other harem ending but there is so much on display and interacting with one another in SM it's incredible. And it did give a great "dirty and fun" impression (partly due to it being one of Kagami's best works, I think, before his quality dive).
I still can't get over how sexy Mifuyu's jealous look is and how flaming hot Aina's depraved faces are.
I hate girl-on-girl and loathe strap-on and incest but SM is a unique game and makes even these elements fun.
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No.235229
>>235218
I don't have any bigger complaints. The rest is fine
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No.235231
And by the way, did anyone download Houkago immoral edition yet?
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No.235405
>>235231
>Houkago
Couldn't get into the art style. Also pic related.
You can tell it comes from around that weirder and more outlandish time in BISHOP. Surprised there wasn't a dog.
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No.235452
I know I'm not colored blind. I also know I can tell the difference between yellow and green, red and blue.
No idea what no one mentioned this but the pubes are discolored for some reason. Anyone know why? Did the colorist not know what game they were working on when doing the pubic CGs?
I can let it go since it's all well and good but seriously what happened?
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No.235474
Anyone know how to extract the script from BISHOP games?
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No.235485
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No.235584
>>235452
Anon, pubic hair is usually darker than whats on top of your head. Your hair color isn't usually uniform across your body.
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No.235736
>>235474
>how to extract the script
Are you planning a translation job or do you just mean hooking with VNR? Because I think only Quof would know the former and the latter is simple: just click the magnifying glass, click "currently running game", hit start and hit the window of the game before going through and testing if the text shows up and lines up with what's in the game. Easy.
Or use ITH, click "hook", click on the game exe on the left, and go through with testing the text popping up that way. But you need Translation Aggregator for that one.
>>235485
Nicely done
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No.235836
>>235584
Pubes are darker and different shades of the crowned hair. There's no reason greenish and blueish pubes would be on natural blond and strawberry headed girls.
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No.236463
Can someone point a nigga to where I can get a summary of Yakata? Im wondering why its not well known and pretty much the sole work of Bishop Royal.
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No.236511
>>236463
>a summary of Yakata
a mysterious man is sent to teach a wealthy heiress and her two beautiful daughters the ways of carnal pleasure. Together with his trusty maid, he will make these sexy women scream in ecstasy again and again.
Basically the heiress and her daughters lost everything and have to sell themselves as slaves in order to survive, and the protag is a slave-trainer.
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No.236669
>>236511
I was hoping some anon wrote a route summary like the the other Bishop games. Guess no one did huh
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No.236767
>>236669
Oh my bad. I haven't seen that for that game but it's pretty old all things considered. You could just use VNR to get the best you can out of it but ultimately you still need some sort of guide to get through the numerous choices in the game. Or maybe you don't. Trial and error isn't so bad.
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No.237411
>>235836
They are literally just darker. Being green or blue is just your eyes playing tricks on ya.
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No.237573
>>237411
No way. I mean maybe with Miria. Maybe. That's greenish, though.
But Kotomi is no way well actually she does have a bluish tint to her red hair but still!
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No.238987
So what are some things you want to see in the next game?
>inb4 Kagami
He is forever trapped in gacha hell. Aside from him.
I would like more Rio (just keep him) and definitely a return of cum choice. I always go for inside but still I want to be able to choose. Also a return to multiple dead ends like in Sansha Mendan where each route has a possible bad ending if you screw up.
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No.239034
Anyone got the latest BugBug? I think 8/3 has some info. I wonder how SnK scored. I know KTJK got rank 3 or 4 out of top ten last year.
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No.239191
>>238987
Remake of Hime Dorei but without the monster/bestiality/sharing degeneracy
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No.239265
I think I liked Miria's little character arc the best. She starts out being a wicked villain because of her intense body issues and being stared at. She ends up loving the attention of Master but only Master and hence her continued ire against being stared at by anyone - except him. It's never stated whether she stops beating the kids with a taser/cattle-prod lol the irony but she does come to not only accept her body but thrill in it because of him. That moment which is common for all the girls where the protag gets to have a closer look at them while pregnant has a stronger meaning in her route since it directly ties into her character.
She becomes so possessive of herself for dedication to Master that she even jealous of their baby at points, saying her milky overflow is foremost for him and if she runs out the baby will have to make due with powder milk. haha!
Kotomi was shockingly good, too. She was basically broken from dicking 1 but trying not to admit it. When she finally submits as a slave her entire personality even to how she walks changed. She sways her hips and chest unconsciously and just lets her slutty face show freely, even referring to the protag as Master without heed of what's going on around her (unlike the other girls who have more tact and control). If she didn't quit her job upon her second pregnancy she would have probably lost it eventually. You can't have a teacher be such a cute bitch in heat 24/7
And MAN 24/7 was NOT an exaggeration! Like where the "closer look" aspect fit more to Miria's character and arc, the entire concept of breeding encapsulated the true flourished Kotomi. She gets irreparably addicted to impreg to the point where she just talks about and thrills over getting knocked up incessantly forever. Even the protag after firing off twice inside her is stunned at how she's still roaring to go - and he remarks about getting addicted to breeding her as well. There's no security of the future in her route unlike the others but maybe if Master impregs Kotomi enough he can just conquer Japan with his cherry-headed spawn.
Each one was fun, honestly, but I will say that at points it feels like the writers were dead-set on establishing this game as the polar opposite of KTJK. Not that KTJK was all that bad but I don't remember the girls and protag ever before so frequently repeating how happy they were, how happy the other one is, how satisfied they are, etc. etc.
Reminded me of how Mifuyu interpreted everything the protag did in SM as an act of love, his baby being a proof of his love for her, etc. It's cute.
>>239191
That would be amazing! Or at least an option not to do that with the girls. More options in general.
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No.239963
So what kind of things you want to see in the next game. One thing I hope for is that the next game will have cumflation for the entire game and not just the retraining scenes.
As for other…maybe a bit more non-cgs dialogue? Shihai suffered from lack of scenes where the MC and heroines just talk to one another.
As for heroines…as long as there is a man-hater in the cast, I will be content.
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No.240109
>>239963
More scenes would be great like that, yeah, and a proper man-hater is also fun.
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No.240481
>>239963
All modern bishop games take place in an urban school barring KnK and Yakata.
Have the setting somewhere else. Medieval Japan or Europe. Add more fantasy in the same vein as Taimanin but keeping with modern bishop fetishes like pregnancy and protag not sharing. Also having a heroine helping you is a best.
Also having a more flesh out alternate corruption like in Chijoku where for the sisters you get a different 3p scene depending on who falls first.
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No.240530
>>240481
>All modern bishop games take place in an urban school barring KnK and Yakata.
Well there's also Shura no Chikandou (mostly on trains but elsewhere, too) and CnS like you mentioned, but yeah it's mostly schools.
>Medieval Japan or Europe. Add more fantasy
I thought it'd be really cool to have a succubus or, even better, vampire game where you conquer demon or vampire girls, or a mix of both. They could even have a pseduo-Castlevania aesthetic to the menu, castle or mansion setting, etc.
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No.241435
Bishops's latest twitter mention they're making another Immoral Edition and another Full Price game. They will have something to display eventually. My question is which Immoral Edition will this game be? It seems like everything has already been covered.
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No.241440
>>241435
>It seems like everything has already been covered.
Not everything, anon. There is one very special game which has not been touched for a remaster. It is the last of Kagami's older works at Bishop and one of his last from the good years before he was trapped in TABA (and soon RPGX) hell.
I just want my Ingrid Touko in HD, man.
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No.241503
>>241440
What's the point of doing a remaster of this game? It still works with modern OS and it's resolution is already high enough.
There's a lot of older games more in need than it, though Bishop releasing patches for most of their older catalogue makes me think the really old ones are out of the to-do list (probably because higher quality assets for them don't exist anymore).
Also I really will never understand why people in this thread obssess over MK3 so much. Every single discussion gets steered towards it either by people who love it and people who hate it. I just found it so average, It wasn't good enough nor bad enough to warrant all this fucking autism.
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No.241511
>>241503
>What's the point of doing a remaster of this game? It still works with modern OS and it's resolution is already high enough.
"High enough" isn't as high as it could be. It could go for a Sansha Mendan treatment - though hopefully not a UK treatment where the game is missing character assets.
>releasing patches
Did they ever do this for UK?
>why all this autism
Because we got a brown, a cutie and an expy. It was also the last time Kagami ever did that (mainly because it was the next-to-last time he would taste freedom).
Also it was special in that we really would not see another Bishop game with not only ejaculation choices but also different endings dependant on those choices while also having scene-unlocking mechanics. MK4 had the unlocking mechanic where you go around, find stuff, get inspired, etc. but it didn't have ejaculation choices. CnS had choices and that was great but they really haven't done that in ages. Honestly I hope they bring it back for the new title, too.
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No.241518
>>241511
>It was also the last time Kagami ever did that (mainly because it was the next-to-last time he would taste freedom).
Fuck Kagami, wasting away on TABA was his choice. I don't get why people always talk like he's a victim being kept against his will in Sasayama's basement or something.
>Also it was special in that we really would not see another Bishop game with not only ejaculation choices but also different endings dependant on those choices while also having scene-unlocking mechanics.
I think Kuro no Kyoushitsu had both, but I don't remember if it had a scene-unlocking mechanic. I am almost sure it did though.
Anyway I always found the item collecting/unlocking thing to be very dry padding, with a few exceptions like MK4's parody books. The time and effort is better spent on interactions with the girls, IMO. Kinda like UK does, I wish more games did something like that where you constantly pursue the girls and watch how they are changing. Just less grindy than UK usually is.
So not having the protagonist randomly finding stuff and doesn't really lessen the experience to me.
Choice to cum inside or outside is nice though, I wish they returned to doing that more often. Especially with multiple endings. I'm usually all for pregnancy but I have to admit having two options for an ending is nice, and I liked some nonpreg endings better than the pregnant ones in a few games that offered the option. Even other options, like Sansha Mendan 3P endings, would be appreciated, instead of one ending for each girl + harem.
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No.241567
>>241518
>I don't get why people always talk like he's a victim being kept against his will in Sasayama's basement or something.
It is just a funny meme. It's not taken seriously by anyone [I hope]. Though I gotta admit your frankness got me laughing.
>Kuro no Kyoushitsu
Personally I never played it. I know it was around this time they started working on that dynamic lighting/tinting for the character portraits to match the environment, though, right? Or was that earlier on?
I'm too into adult heroines and not really into school girls but if it has that kind of choice-emphasis I could get into it.
I could definitely enjoy seeing a constant pursuit of the girls like in UK again. To be fair I think the train-brain game had something similar in how you went after the girls on the train, when you did it, etc. but it wasn't as full as UK. Maybe since UK was a true corruption game it fit better there but more interactions would be best. Definitely.
>I liked some nonpreg endings better than the pregnant ones in a few games that offered the option
Which ones?
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No.242403
So I just spent about an hour to an hour and a half filling out the "Enquete" section of the SnK website. I somehow doubt I will win the raffle for extra goodies.
In fact, I somehow doubt anyone at BISHOP will tolerate my bad Japanese for even a second but hey, might as well.
I put in some of the suggestions mentioned in the thread for requests but since they are already working on the new title I doubt we will see them. Would be nice.
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No.244134
I think a supernatural twist would be great for the next game but I doubt they will change the formula very much.
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No.244911
>>241511
Bishop does have a 1.1 patch that fix those problems. However, if you use the patch, your old save data will be no longer compatible and you will need to replay the whole game again.
http://www.bishop.jp/support/details/details_051ukie.html
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No.245223
>>244911
Oh, wait really? Nice! When did that happen?
And man this moonrune is killing me. Got a direct link?
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No.245401
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No.245451
>>245401
Nicely done, anon! Thanks
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No.245458
anybody have a save data of tokubetsu 3 SLG that doesn't include any bad end thumbnail? Kinda annoyed with the red hair one bad end thumbnail
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No.245517
>grind to build up cum for inflation nation
>choose a girl at the end of the day
>watch her masturbate
>she doesn't even know I'm there
>go see her the next day
>no cum
Things like this make me remember why I don't replay UK
>>245458
>tokubetsu 3 SLG
Never played that one. Sorry.
But thinking on it, maybe it will have an immoral edition coming out next.
protag looks like an old man, though.
>red hair one bad end
How bad does it get that the thumbnail is that terrible an eyesore? Is it dogs?
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No.245519
>>245458
WOAH WHAT
Dude what in the world is this? How come no one talks about T3SLG?
Mind you, Mifuyu's bad end in SM is pretty hardcore considering the context but we never actually see what happens. I am stunned to see this kind of thing in a Bishop game that doesn't come from their ancient days.
I never want to see Oonari qt's like this, man.
Although it does further show his chops. A lot of these artists could do some great non-nukige work if they wanted to take the opportunity.
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No.245521
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No.245522
>>245519
Those are the reason, the red hair …
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No.245526
Also the red hair one is the one who kinda give me the creep, Saki do have 1 bad end that I kinda creep me out but not that bad since it was hidden with other cg and the other person bad end is only noticeable by reading it context and the most "unnoticeable" even by CGs
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No.245529
>>245526
You could just go into the files and delete the saves, anon. Then replay the game with the girl(s) you want and not touch the creepy redhead.
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No.245530
>>245526
Or uninstall and reinstall the game to start over.
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No.245533
Well, I just wonder if there any other person who purposely do not bother unlocking the bad end, or someone who can do a save editing. My last resort pretty much have to go using the unlock the guide but some of them is kinda "troublesome" to unlock.
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No.245535
>>245533
Oh so the reason you don't just uninstall or delete your own saves is because SLG needs a guide to unlock the routes/endings? I didn't know Bishop made a game like that.
What are some of the things you need to do to unlock?
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No.245552
>>245535
It actually the scene that require certain repeat of sex and certain discipline stats and sometimes req knocking the girls out. For ending I know that a combination of training percentage and some "obedience" thingy are required. Well, I might kinda need to delete the common data when I prepared enough though.
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No.245562
>>245552
That sounds like a pain in the ass, honestly. I'm all for more gameplay mechanics in Bishop games but that's a bit too much work.
But good luck, anon. Which girl was your favorite? Post her pic https://exhentai.org/g/529530/16c734ae9f/
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No.245844
>>245800
She does seem like the cutest and sexiest. Is she the protag's daughter, though?
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No.246029
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No.246199
>>246029
>>245960
So the first heroine is the daughter of the girl you trained ages ago and knocked up?
I guess it fits with the tone of the game, but I always liked the slavers warming up to the idea of being a continual breeder of the slave-mother of his children
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No.246371
has this happen to anyoe else?
i find it harder and harder to enjoyably masturbate to my favorite girl in snk not that i cant get aroused or fly off but like i just plaid cns and found it a lot easier then i plaid the other girls in snk and it was a bit easier but then i go back to my favorite and it was alright but it was taking forever to fly off i couldnt fly off
you know when you re married and your wife is sexy but gets old and you need more stuff new with her i think
i think its like that
this is just weird i probably looked at the cgs too often or something
maybe i just want new games or something still fun to play tho
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No.250787
Next IE is probably Gakuen 2, since they just stop production of the Windows 10 edition of it. Usually, when this occurs is when they make the IE version.
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No.251228
>>250787
>Gakuen 2
It's been ages and ages, man. I wonder how it'll look in HD
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No.251910
>>250787
Was Gakuen 2 the last one they had with dogs?
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No.252379
>>174430
>>174433
>>174433
Can you do this review of the characters for all the other games you guys played?
I'm interested in your opinion of them.
A pole to see who are the best characters would be cool too.
Do it like this this was very interesting.
Tho the pics are not mine they are but an example.
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No.252627
I wish bishop made a game with TA characters in a real life setting
>making an Ingrid sandwich with Oboro and Asagi as "breadslices"
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No.252660
>>252627
The closest we'll get forever is the expy we have already. Touko (MK3) especially since she has the same seiyuu (Ingrid). And of course Asagi Tsubaki in UK but different VA.
>>252379
This is pretty interesting but I think most anons are too lazy to make an image like that. Also your first pic is just the smaller version of the third one. Just look at the summaries in the last thread to get a good feel of the girls and who is superior Miria & Ann of course
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No.252770
>>252379
I'm not sure I like any of their other games enough to review each character, except Sansha Mendan. I'm pretty lukewarm on most of Bishop's non-Kagami games so a lot of characters would just be "eh, she was alright I guess" and nothing else. I'm not sure if this is because the writing quality has gotten worse over time or if Kagami's art just tricks me into thinking the characters are better than they actually are.
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No.252815
>>252379
First image is for ants an the others are like you learned to core things on IGN's scale
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No.252821
>>252627
I was about to say that Taimanin it's shit and everything about Black Lilith is utter and disgusting shit, but a game with BL characters made by Bishop? The only good thing about BL is their character design. Add Bishop non-cuck shit stories and basically harem overlord plots and you'll get all my money.
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No.252866
>>252770
>I'm not sure if this is because the writing quality has gotten worse over time or if Kagami's art just tricks me into thinking the characters are better than they actually are.
Both. There's not enough build-up in each girl's route and there isn't an introductory non-H CG of each girl to get you accustomed to them before they get BISHOP'd. That and the lack of bad ends and lack of ejaculation choices makes it feel more stream-lined and thus less written or effort.
Each game is mostly the same in quality that aside, though.
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No.252869
>>245521
Does anyone think BISHOP will ever do another Nitro+ tier story like this again? I'm not into the edge but I'd kinda want to see a BISHOP game with a bit more bite to it.
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No.252925
>>252821
>Add Bishop non-cuck shit stories and basically harem overlord plots and you'll get all my money.
Mah nigga. Gimme some stories of that shit and we golden. I always despised the plots of Lilith games cause they're so retarded.
>be Black, main villain of Taimanin series
>want to find vampire waifu
>find a candidate
>you know what, i should have orcs, monsters and everyone else fuck her and do basically fuck all myself
congrats, now heres the stupid award
just gimme a game where you have the darker themes but tell other dudes to fuck off
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No.253012
So if you were a BISHOP MC, how often would you kiss your slaves? If i were in their shoes, I would always start every session with a kiss. From the game proper, that really turns them on.
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No.253163
>>253012
>start every session
Kissing has to happen just before climax to fully confuse and melt their brains. You can go Reiji's style and kiss them at random whenever you like just to keep them excited at your presence but really kissing should be for confirmation of servitude and extra sensory brain melting.
Outside of this I'd probably just do it at-will. It's a fun surprise and can go places. Works in actual relationships, too
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No.255112
Going back through through some old stuff and I still can't believe the Kagai Jugyo art style clash exists. How could they think it was acceptable? It'd probably be a perfectly fine game without it. Pretty sure I'd like Emiri a lot with good art.
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No.255639
>>255112
I dunno I kinda liked this one. But yeah the shading was really the worst part aside from the clash. It could have worked and the protag being a chuuni was a great hilarious idea. Shame everything looks like it got bloomed out to death
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No.255950
Bishop official twitter says they might show the next IE and the new game next week.
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No.256133
>>255950
Bout time. Without new info these threads are all but pointless.
Wonder what the IE will be
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No.256409
>>255639
Ogin Bara should be given a second chance. I think it's a shame that they used him for a title that was both bugged as far as artwork goes (they fucked up the steam/breath effects so that you have to turn them off) and was using Bishop's washed out colouring style. Although his artstyle, roadspike eyelashes in particular, clashes with pretty much every artist under Bishop's payroll in a way that means a title would probably do best with just Ogin's characters in them alone, rather than as a Ogin/Oonari work.
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No.256477
>>256133
Here's hoping it's Hime Dorei.
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No.256483
>>256409
That's a good point. No amount of color and shading will get his eyes to look like they belong in the same realm as Oonari or others. I like it but that's true.
And yeah he definitely needs another chance, especially after Bishop finally introduced absolutely absurd breast proportions with Miria.
Bara, Rio and Oonari break it wide open, man. I wonder what will happen next.
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No.257248
I see we're missing posts in this thread, too
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No.259689
I think we know what the next Immoral Edition is
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No.259693
学園2 is the next one. Here's some pics of the original release.
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No.260188
>>259689
Nice. I liked that one's OVA in particular.
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No.260603
>>259689
>>259693
why does this art look like it's from the 90's
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No.260611
>>260603
Because it essentially is; Bishop seems to be remastering its oldest works for now.
Seems like there won't ever be a Mesu Kyoushi 3 Immoral Edition.
hint hint Quof
But as it stands this is it. Shame they aren't going for Hime Dorei. Maybe it's too old for them?
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No.261128
>>260611
Hime Doreis is newer than Gakuen 2. It's probably just less popular.
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No.261129
>>261128
it might also have to do with hime dorei having bestiality which people rightfully hate>>261128
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No.261301
>>235452
The pubic hair was clearly an afterthought not drawn in as a variant but an added layer after-the-fact. That's why it mostly all looks the same except for the color (even in that pic).
The pubic hair coloring is off in certain and plenty of CGs because it's conflicting with the natural shading of the skin color on the girl's pussy.
You can see the same problem in other CGs where two different colors mix awkwardly over the shading on the character.
Pics related 1 and 2 respectively. Notice the left inner-thigh/groin. See how it's normal shading one minute and then, when semen is added in later (as it naturally is in every game for obvious reasons) the coloring mixes with the shading and looks like her pussy is bleeding.
I think the main issue isn't really color-mixing but shading priority, come to think of it, since the shading is a natural reddish hue in the evening color pallet of the scene. The thigh gets covered in the white of the semen but the red hued shading remains dominant OVER the white semen leading to that kind of mess.
SnK is great but you can tell they either rushed the game or started the project late since the overall visual presentation, while fantastic, doesn't really compare to KTJK.
But maybe that's because KTJK was given more time in the oven and because BISHOP seems to excell at darker color pallets and shading, like >>245519 and >>245517 with SLG. That game is much older and yet visually striking, so much that in certain CGs you could feel like reaching out and touching what you're seeing. It's amazing (and only amplifies the horror).
Look also at the pubic hair and shading on Anju in pic related. Akagi Rio knows his pubes but it's obvious that they were last-minute or hastily copy-pasted in SnK.
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No.261303
>>261129
>>261128
Excellent point (and rightly hated) but it makes me wonder why they aren't doing Mesu Kyoushi 3 or Kyoiku Shido since both were more popular and neither had bestiality.
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No.261347
>>261303
I suppose Mesu Kyoushi 3 is relatively recent at only 4ish years old. While I am not a fan of most of the designs in KS, the tags tell me at least 4 characters get bestiality.
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No.262203
>>261347
But wasn't Sansha Mendan just five or so years old?
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No.262309
>>261303
>>261347
Didn't KS already get an Immoral Edition release. it didn't get higher resolution, but not all IMs do that.
Also I think KS is terribly underrated, it's cut from the same cloth as SM and UK even if it isn't as good as those two. A lot of the scenesd are very inspired, the harem scenes have a lot of interaction between the girls and so on
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No.262421
>>262309
Also Kaede (The blue haired), who will always be on of Bishop's top tier girl and the ideal for milking/kuudere heroine
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No.262686
Apperently, according to Bishops twiiter the next game is going to be 屈辱2
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No.262692
>>262686
I hope the MC isn't a carrot boy.
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No.262722
>>262686
Okay Bishop, I get you like the humiliation concept. Not that I blame you, it is a great concept.
BUT!
The MC should be,,,a typical BISHOP MC. Not whatever piece of shit Shouichi was.
The girls should mindbreak and enjoy their slavery.
If you get the two things above, this will be a great game. SNK proved the fans want a strong MC and lustful girls. Don't ever break that.
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No.262726
>>262686
Okay Bishop, I get you like the humiliation concept. Not that I blame you, it is a great concept.
BUT!
The MC should be,,,a typical BISHOP MC. Not whatever piece of shit Shouichi was.
The girls should mindbreak and enjoy their slavery.
If you get the two things above, this will be a great game. SNK proved the fans want a strong MC and lustful girls. Don't ever break that.
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No.262727
>>262726
Sorry I accidentally repeated it
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No.262729
>>262686
Okay, that's it.
This game looks really bad.
Bishop is dead to me now.
First game of theirs in six or so years I'm just not going to play.
Goodbye, Bishop. You were once my favourite nukige company. Now I'm not even going to play your games.
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No.262732
>>262686
Well these designs look pretty nice. There is a good color pallet of the hairs. Even the main girl, doesn't have the typical brown/black/pink hair and has a strange whitish brown. The pink hair is…well she's less developed then the others but she's definitely more curvy then the averge loli.
Oh a blond ojou sama. I know we just had Miria, but the last type we had a student version was litteraly Saori. The redhead is a bit on the average side but still nice. And so is the teacher.
Hopeful this game has actual proper, Bishop mindbreak.
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No.262739
>>262686
It's rare to see Bishop kickstart new series. Anyway that puts to rest the baseless claim about the game having failed and being hated in Japan lol.
It also shows they are doing the darker stuff as a brand of its own (instead of doing a game with a brand new title but effectively functioning in the same way, as Bishop usually does), probably to avoid confusion: it makes clear when the game's tone may not be for everyone.
I like Kutsujoku but I still have some problems with it, namely full mindbreak only really happening in the epilogues. I hope they change that, keeing a lenghty portion of mindbroken heroine like the older games with similar tone to KTJK did.
>>262421
I agree about she being the best Kuudere, but to me the best lactation-focused heroine was Kazuha. Love her tits and love how her lactation was the entire focus of her route and her corruption.
I have some big gripes with Kuro no Kyoushitsu as a whole but Kazuha is my favorite Bishop girl and her break scene is easily among my favorite h-scenes.
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No.262808
>>262686
It won't be "flourishing sluttiness" but "Stockholm Syndrome fetish". Like other anons I hate that but hey, we can play a villainous protag and have fun!
Things that need to happen, though:
1. Better protag who is competent and not a carrot juice retard
2. CREATIVITY in H scenes with using his power. I want to see girls stripping against their will on the school flagpole. I want to see girls violently molesting themselves. I want to see girls being brought to screaming orgasms while precariously standing at the edge of a building because their bodies moved them there.
BE CREATIVE
KTJK was so dull compared to what its premise teased!
3. Gradual mindbreak showing girls getting more and more ruined until finally snapping giddily
4. Have the routes not blend together in "OH IM SCARED" reactions being so universal as to destroy any character distinction between the girls. Keep the terror and dread there but make it unique with how the girls react and interact in their routes.
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No.262810
>>262686
Shame we won't have more Akagi Rio. I will miss the breast master.
Can anyone tell what the other artists are here? I can only see Oonari. Not a problem if he's the only one there but eh.
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No.262905
>>262729
Talking like you actually buying their game in the first place.
Just keep your words and get out of here pls
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No.262911
>>262726
What is the difference bw typical Bishop MC and Souichi?
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No.262917
>>262810
Blue definitely Oonari's, washed blond is Tomoaki's, soft pink is Uriri's, I think the other blond is Oonari's, don't know about purple.
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No.262949
>>262905
I'm probably one of the few people who actually do buy the DL editions of the eroge they play. You couldn't have picked a worse person to make that assumption about. I'm a fan big enough to pay like $80 for Shihai no Kyoudan and I'm still disappointed by this game to the point of not even pirating it.
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No.263071
>>262949
Sure, whatever you say
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No.263129
This is prob 1st time I have no interest in any of these girls, past game always have 1 girl that I like in design but this one is….also please do not be like the first one that the girls get scared even in the post scene one.
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No.263135
Well, judging from Bishops past games , they don't do the same things over again. Even if the games are from the same "series" there are some differences between each of them.
So based upon that I don't think that the next "humiliation" game is going to be the same as the first one..
First of all - the Main Protagonists 'power' is going to be working in a different way - I doubt it's going to be the same 'human manipulation ' that the first one had .
Second is the fact that it's going to have a slightly different settings - first of all because the personality of the 'main girl' is going to be different and the other girls are also going to some changes - not to mention the reason why the MC would want to enslave all of them is going to be different.
Finally - this is not the first game from the Humiliation series anymore, so Bishop definitely has already got some impressions on what was liked and disliked from the first game.
Of course it's going to be from the Japanese perspective so their 'tastes' are different then ours, but I belove that some of the 'mistakes' from the first game are going to be improved in the second one.
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No.263140
>>263135
>First of all - the Main Protagonists 'power' is going to be working in a different way - I doubt it's going to be the same 'human manipulation ' that the first one had .
I think it may be, like the first two Mesu Kyoushi had lactation-inducing semen (though the conditions were slightly different). If they do have body manipulation again I hope they get a bit more creative with it.
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No.263146
If anyone likes Uriri's work in Bishop (Moeka in Shihai no Kyoudan, Miho and Suzuno in Houkago 3), he is doing a game with Miel and it looks pretty nice. Miel has been stepping up their coloring game recently, compared to what it was before.
I thought so with Moeka's scenes, but these confirm even more that Uriri is getting pretty good with more well-endowed characters (which were out of his comfort zone until a few years back when he started working with Bishop, he mostly did loli stuff) and also doing better expressions and ahegaos compared to his HKG3 girls.
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No.263249
>>263146
It is a testament to quality and skill when you make up for Miel's rather moist coloring with good CGs. Moeka was sexy-cute and I liked her. Thanks, anon!
>>262917
I think purple is Oonari also.
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No.263270
>>262810
>>262917
Blonde may be Akagi Rio's but it could also be Oonari's. Hard to tell with such a low quality image.
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No.263371
>>263270
I don't think so. Those faces look too similar to Oonari's blonds honestly. It could be him and I can't recognize it since the girl doesn't have the blown-out proportions of Anju or Miria but I don't know. Guess we will have to see.
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No.263433
>>262729
Damn this is one hell of a spastic response.
>>262949
Also don't be a lying faggot. You didn't buy shit.
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No.263458
>>263433
Who actually does buy things? I know Quof does. I personally bought SnK to get that sweeeeet Miria tapestry and upload the drama cd– Side note: Should they really be known as drama cd's? It's more "what if" scenarios with mostly H content which, if you don't know Nip, just comes out to incoherent moaning and orgasms (not that it's a bad thing).
But meh, whatever. I don't know if that anon bought anything but it's possible I guess.
What are some anons' thoughts on creative mind-body control H scenes for the upcoming KTJK2? I'd like to hear what you guys can come up with.
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No.263534
>>262686
Nice cast of heroines. Pretty much all of them except for the last girl have some appeal to me. Though I guess that's just based on their sprites alone since her sample CG looks nice.
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No.263537
>>263433
>Also don't be a lying faggot. You didn't buy shit.
You nerds need to be a little more open minded. I buy games I like from companies I like to support them. That's something you can do when you're obsessive about porn games and have an actual job. This is just recent DMM purchases by the way, I bought Taimanin Asagi Zero on DLsite for instance (which I generally prefer doing as I like their point system more). I'm planning on importing hard copies of my favourite Bishop games someday but importing porn requires using annoying, expensive forwarding services since amazon.co.jp doesn't ship 18+ stuff overseas. Oh well.
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No.263645
>>263537
Oh hey! Three confirmed anons in these threads who buy the games they talk about. Nicely done.
I'd buy a copy of MK3 and SM if they had the same tapestry set-up their other games have.
>I bought Taimanin Asagi Zero
why
I firmly believe they cut out content for TABA and now their RPGX games. There is no way that pittance of a title was fully fledged, especially with the abject absence of Murasaki scenes aside from limp-limbs. Though I DO know Lilith went too far with sudden guro again and had to alter and censor scenes because they just don't learn their lesson.
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No.263654
>>263645
Taimanin Asagi / Kangoku Senkan are the games that got me into eroge basically. I have a lot of fondness for Lilith. Their uh… Their fixation with TABA and RPGX is unfortunate, and their games are suffering for it, but what can you do. Light. Type Moon. August. Tons of major eroge company is getting into gacha. There's no real way to avoid it. I can't really get mad at Lilith for riding the money wave in these trying times. The best I can do is buy their solo games and support non-gacha releases as much as I can. (And yeah I know my individual sale isn't changing anything, but I'm not dumb enough to fall for the 'tragedy of the commons' trap.)
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No.263832
>>263537
Do you know whether DMM accepts US debit card?
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No.263859
>>263458
>Who actually does buy things?
I buy English releases, like Mangagamer. Might as well support this shit getting translated
>>263537
I take it back anon. Good for you. I'm way too jaded by pirates complaining about Denuvo.
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No.263962
>>263654
Guess that's fair.
>>263859
>I buy English releases, like Mangagamer. Might as well support this shit getting translated
That's a good move, honestly. I hope MG moves closer to these games and not sticking so deep into yuri
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No.264131
>>263832
It seems like a crapshoot. Mine is fine. Some of my friend's aren't. One time DMM let my friend buy a game, but then not download it due to living in the US.
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No.264747
Here's a cleaner version of the previews
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No.264779
Okay, here's what I managed to gather. Not much on the character profiles, but enough about the story.
This time around, the MC is a teacher at an all-girls school. Sadly, he's not the most popular person over there, can't tell all the reasons, but being a man is definitely one of them. But he did not let it bother him, staying strong in the face of dislike, plus the eye candy is nice. And he has no memories of a good chunk of his past.
One day, he met the new transfer student. Relieved he to finally see a friendly face who wasn't pressured by others to dislike him, he struck up a conversation, until he received a jolt of memory. The new girl look familiar. So he looked up her records.
Turns out she was a distant relative of his, connected to his lost memories. And that caused his memories to return.
He used to be the typical BISHOP MC, with the special ability to control the bodies of others, he laid hands on a lot of females, but eventually lost his memories. The new girl resembling the first woman he raped. Thanks to her, he reignited his goal of being a BISHOP slaver, especially fueled by all the girls who derided him at the school, and take revenge on the girls of his liking.
White-Blonde: The new girl. The Girl-next-door. The one who resembles the MC first rape victim, letting his regain his memories. As thanks, he decides on her as one of his targets.
blonde: A strong-minded, egotistical girl who dislike the MC, for being a man intruding on her territory of girls.
redhead: A popular and reliable girl who relies on someone's teaching. This one is the most blurred for me.
pink: A beautiful girl who is seen as stoic and haughty to other students. In reality, she is a former delinquent who wishes to amend herself by taking her studies more seriously, and just has problems expressing herself.
blue teacher: A strong-willed women who looks down on weakness and is the MC's coworker. She is especially harsh on him.
And that's all i could gather. The only thing I'm confident is the general gist of the story.
Whatever or not it has a connection to the first Kutsojoku remains to be seen.But considering the main girls resemblance to Aika (blonde loli in KJ) and the MC being a distant relative, I'm guessing he's from a branch family of the Kutsojoku family. He has the special powers too.
But overall, I'm liking it so far. The MC seems to be the basic Bishop one, right down to Teaching job (I can't tell which subject). I'm guessing he wants revenge, but he just wants slaves for his desires. Revenge is meant for the blonde and the bluehead, the rest are just for his lust.
Also it's interesting to note, that before he regained his memory, he was perfectly affiable, if a bit wimpy, but after those memories, he became a BISHOP MC. I find that funny for some reasons.
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No.264783
>>264779
Oh and the four students heroine are friends with one another.
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No.264803
>>264779
>The one who resembles the MC first rape victim,
Oh boy, she's his daughter right.
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No.264806
>>264803
Eh…I don't think she's old enough. My best guess is a sister oh his victim or something…well frankly I hope its nothing extreme in terms of blood relations
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No.264814
While browsing the Japanese threads on the game, they also mentioned the Kutsojoku Bad End, where the MC was found out and had his memories erased.
Maybe thats what happened to the MC of our new game.
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No.264856
Well, judging from the description about the girls I think there is a pretty good chance that all of them ( well, maybe except the teacher ) are going to be "initially" virgins.
I also wonder if we are going to get some more threesome / harem scenes in this game - which depends on what kind of bonds each of the girls are going to have with the other targets.
After all … being forced to watch you're best friend or younger / older sister being raped in front of you … without being able to help her in some way is definitely a considerable humiliation.
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No.264956
>>264747
Well, she doesn't really have the same hair colour or eye colour, but Sayuki has a near identical 3 sizes to Ayana from the first game. Just for reference, Sayuki's 3 sizes are 86/57(maybe, can't tell since it's too blurry)/88, Ayana's 3 sizes were 87/58/88.
If my kana reading abilities aren't that fucking terrible then the new girl's names are (from left to right) Onoura Rikka, Yumihara Sayuki, Adatchi/Adachi Miori, Houbuki Noeru/Noel, Souma Manami.
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No.265011
>>264747
So pink haired girl is done by Akagi Rio. Quite different from wha the did in Bishop before but he's done similar body shapes before.
Also I don't recognize the name of the artist for the short haired girl. The letters are too small.
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No.265016
>>265011
It's saxasa. His art seems alright.
I don't know who is doing the blue haired lady though.
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No.265020
>>264747
No wait, is the teacher a purple head or a blue-head?
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No.265112
>>263962
>That's a good move, honestly. I hope MG moves closer to these games and not sticking so deep into yuri
I'm hopeful with the steam floodgates open we can get more of these games translated. I'd like to imagine the first Bishop game on steam would do well.
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No.265155
>>264747
Okay, so officially no Akagi Rio. …Crud.
Still, good ol' Oonari pulling it right and the pink qt is pretty cute.
Course the only one I got my eyes on is that teacher…although her eyes on her head are up like an alien. Reminds me of TerraFormars. Least the CG looks good.
I don't like how uniform the girls look. Even KTJK had more personality in the designs. It bugs me how similar they all are. but maybe it's just their poses or something.
>>264779
>He used to be the typical BISHOP MC, with the special ability to control the bodies of others, he laid hands on a lot of females, but eventually lost his memories. The new girl resembling the first woman he raped. Thanks to her, he reignited his goal of being a BISHOP slaver, especially fueled by all the girls who derided him at the school, and take revenge on the girls of his liking.
BRO
So the story is
KTJK + MK3 + SLG?
Are you serious? This is gonna be really interesting!
INSTATLY better protag. INSTANTLY a better story– in fact I think this is the first BISHOP game in several that actually has an over-arcing plot. Why couldn't we get THIS story/character for the first game? What a waste. Still, this is gonna be something to watch out for. This CAN'T fail.
>I find that funny for some reasons.
I find it pleasantly familiar only this time the memories are real
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No.265156
>>265011
Oh you're right! I feel like such an ass for not seeing it sooner. You can tell by the eyes.
And yeah, though Rio is absolutely at his best when allowed to go full blown-out with his figures he is a very talented moe artist and most of his published games are moe not megamilk. Should have seen it sooner >>264747
>>265016
Her CG reminds me of an Oonari but her character model looks ridiculously amateur with the eye placement.
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No.265161
A better scan of Bishop new game at the Bugbug official Twitter
https://twitter.com/bugbug_info/status/1049948161530187776
And the blue hair teacher is definetly Akagi Rio, you can see she has similar face from his previous works.
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No.265182
>>265161
I'm pretty sure she's not
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No.265183
>>265182
and if you ask me, I would say Aikawa Arisa
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No.265615
>>264779
Sounds pretty cool.
I hope it has the same kind of harsher sex and treatment as the original Kutsujoku but at the same time it doesn't neglect post-mindbreak stuff like it did.
The protagonist at least sounds more likable at bare minimum. Him working at an all girls school and being hated for little reason reminds me of Houkago 3's MC.
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No.265910
Meanwhile I still hoping for someone to complete the missing pages from the kagami X bishop artworks…
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No.266374
>>265910
>complete the missing pages from the kagami X bishop artworks
What is that? A collection or artbook?
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No.266388
>>265161
Pink is Rio for sure. It's in the eyes. Blue looks like it could be Rio but it's just hard to tell since her normal model has such a long face. Her eyes seem a smidge too high to me. Maybe it's just because Miria is his best character and there is no comparison but even Anju and Grasshead have more "Rio" eyes in their models.
Speaking of, while getting these pics I gained a greater appreciation of Rio's use of eyelashes/eyeshape in character expression. Miria's eyes have three to four stand-out lashes each (normally three) and have a naturally sharply angled look (anons know what this kind of eye shape is the name escapes me but it fits the "resting bitch face" look of hard women or villainesses).
However you can see that Rio sacrifices consistency in favor of amplifying expression.
When she is smug or smiling her lashes change a bit, dipping a little here and rising there while also losing their thickness and gaining stand-out lashes (probably to express an alluring or attractive gaze).
When she grows angrier the lashes/outline becomes sharper, narrowed and loses stand-out lashes. The eyes themselves don't seem quite as jeweled.
When she is surprised the lashes change completely as with the eyes, becoming more circular or egg-shaped (losing the sharp angles) and the lashes become most thick and pointed at the ends to make the eyes that much bigger and cuter.
A lot of artists do similar things but I really like how Rio does it, though it's more expressed in Miria and Bootylicious than Anju. Even Kagami and Oonari have more consistency with the shape of the lashes and eyes in their characters' eyelash shape and eye size(pic related is Kagami obviously) but as I said Rio focuses more on expression itself, on the feeling he desires to entice in the audience, over consistency, which is funny considering he's one of the few artists who can do the most amazing megamilk titty consistency I have ever seen.
Not that he's the best with the eyes, I prefer Kagami the most honestly, but it's just something neat I noticed.
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No.266397
>>266374
old artbook from 2011 of kagami works on bishop, some of em are incomplete
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No.266654
>>266388
Dude, …the artist for each character is written there
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No.266658
>>266654
>thinking most anons in these threads, let alone this board, can read nip
Come on you know better than that now tell us who does which character and end the debate
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No.266663
>>266388
>>265161
>>266658
Blond & Gray - Oonari
Pink - Akagi Rio
Purple - Saxasa
Blue is not Rio or Oonari. It's someone else.
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No.266743
>>266658
Are you seriously saying that?
The picture you uploaded is pretty high def, just zoom in and the text absolutely readable
>>266663
Blue is as i guessed (>>265183)
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No.266745
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No.266787
>>265161
The higher quality scans let me read the description and there I saw this interesting tidbit
>If Kutsujoku 1 was a story about corrupting girls with fear, Kutsujoku 2 is a story about corrupting girls with pleasure
Hopefully that means it'll be less grimdark.
That said, they're really struggling artist wise. FOUR different artists in one game? Seriously? They're having big problems and it's obvious. I know Kagami's the one who stopped taking Bishop work, rather than Bishop firing him (and my pet theory is that Asagi Zero took so long to come out due to him working slowly), but losing him was seriously the nail in the coffin for Bishop I think. The Kagami + Oonari combo was perfect and despite it being years since he left, they still haven't recovered or stabilized. FOUR artists in one game? That's insane. This game might be Bishop's death kneels. Maybe they're starting a new series, and revived the Houkago series, because they're struggling financially.
Rest in peace, Bishop.
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No.266790
>>266787
I think you're reading a bit too much into this. Yes BISHOP is using more artists. But its nothing they didn't do before.
Maybe they liked Shihai's four artist so much, they decided on doing it again
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No.266796
>>266790
> But its nothing they didn't do before.
I actually double-checked before my post and they have literally never used 4 artists before in their history, except their *last* game, which is just more indication that they've only recently started struggling. Having tons of artists at once is generally not considered a good thing, and historically they've tried to stick to 2 main artists with occasionally a third tacking care of a single other character (usually Tomoaki who matched Kagami/Oonari's style as best he could). At this point they've given up and the heroines by side artists really stick out - Aikawa's character in particular is just bad. They wouldn't be relying on so many different artists at the expense of consistent visuals if they didn't have to, and they haven't done so for their entire history up until now and their prior game. Bishop is struggling, plain and simple. The crummy visuals (seriously, Aikawa's art is not a good fit for Bishop) are impacting the quality of the games too. They're on a downward path and I hope they can recover.
By the way, you don't need to deny this because you want to defend Bishop. I like Bishop too, but we have to face the facts here. Defending them for this kind of thing and blowing it off as nothing is not a good thing. Bishop is struggling, and closing your eyes and blindly defending them will not improve the situation. Well, I guess pointing out their failures won't improve the situation either, but at least it's being honest.
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No.266814
>>266796
What facts? Where is the concrete evidence supporting your "facts"?
Don't assume your preferences apply to all of us.
I would buy this game for only that Aikawa character
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No.266815
>>266796
Okay, you're clearly projecting a bit.
Has there been any official annoucements? Has any BISHOP game recently under sold?
Besides, the art looks fine to me. Maybe a little work can be done, but overall it feels the same.
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No.266816
>>266814
You can look at their history to see that they never used 4 artists before recently. Aikawa's art not being a good fit for Bishop is more personal preference, but the fact they used to have a stable artist roster (Kagami, Oonari, Tomoake) that they stuck to putting 2, maybe 3 on per game is undeniable, and the fact that recently they've been flip flopping between artists hardcore and putting 4 artists on per game for the first time is undeniable.
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No.266822
>>266816
https://vndb.org/v18591
Please don't reply with something like "Oh, assistant doesn't count".
They going with more/new artists may imply that they are trying new things, targeting wider audience, finding potential artists for upcoming works as current artists may not always stick with them (Kagami case)
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No.266827
>>266822
Not only is that the only one, and not only is it pretty recent too, but yeah assistants are pretty different. They touch up other artists, they aren't a full on artist themselves.
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No.266968
>go check up on our favorite boy Quof
>see his twitter avatar
Excellent taste.
>see his VNDB rating list (out of 10)
>gave Rance 10 - 10/10
Good lad!
>Youkoso! Elf Forest - 7.9/10
Atta boy, lad! Exquisite pallet.
>gave KTJK - 6.9/10
That's fair.
>gave SnK - 4/10
Well okay I guess. Seems like he rarely gives less than a 4 so I guess he wasn't too thrilled about it.
>Deis Irae - 9/10
Lad seriously?
>gave Taimanin Asagi ZERO - 7/10
really?
>Kangoku Academia - 6.9/10
lad
>Taimanin Asagi 3 - 7/10
there are no heroes left in man
Well it just goes to show that same truth for all anons - half of every anon's tongue is rich and vibrant while the other half is just dead, and it all depends on which side he first licks the jawbreaker.
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No.266975
>>266787
>Hopefully that means it'll be less grimdark.
Grimdark is fine so long as it's done well and with a protag who has a good reason for being grimedge instead of being anime Elliot Roger.
But now I'm even more interested in this. Knee-high no Kyodown was all about being a fundamental polar opposite of Kutzajoku with making a heavy (absurdly overt) reference to how much pleasure the girls were corrupted with (Anna even climaxed with a Miel-style inner shower). So it's funny they are going back to Kustujoku with that emphasis.
It could be that they really just want to explore the body-manipulation premise again but realize that it would be retreading ground if it was a new title so they anchored it as a sequel to Kutujsuk
>struggling
Nah they ev hae artis t tiek that before just look and ZERO PROblem was not Kagmai working slowly but being in Samasya's basement toiling away in gacha mines. So much was cut fmor that game and its obvious as daylight.
BISHOP likes using multiple artists ever since Kamagi stayed with Lilith['s gacha dungeon] for FFFFFFFFFFAT money. I thought Akagi Rio was gonna be their new Kagami considering he was put up on second billing right out the gate but maybe they just want to bring in more people too for variety.
It's MORE expensive to hire multiple artists than to have all the girls done by one or two artists anon. That's a mark of succcess not sguggling
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No.266989
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No.267468
>>266796
Anon you sound retarded. You are basing your theory that Bishop is dying on the fact they used four artists. Clearly they can't afford to make games anymore, so now they are forced to spend more money and hire more artists than before… Were you dropped as a child?
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No.268051
>>266787
>>266796
>Hiring more people means they're struggling financially.
What.
If they were struggling financially they would do a smaller game for a smaller price (reminder that Bishop games are pretty expensive) to get some money for the next big project, not double down on spendings.
And for the record, the only time Bishop ever referenced having budgetary constraints was when explaining why Kagai Jugyo didn't have repeat scenes, and even then it sounded more like they done goofed allocating the budget than that they had less money. That game marked a lot of changes to Bishop's style, most of which have not payed off and they've since backtracked from.
We don't have sales numbers for any of the games, as far as I'm aware, but Kutsujoku sold out fast from some Japanese stores (and the fact a Kutsujoku 2 is already being made probably means it did well). I haven't followed Shihai no Kyoudan's release too closely but I remember seeing something about it having really highy preorders. So I don't think Bishop is struggling unless they already had some crazy debt building up from years ago. But that would be making assumptions out of nothing.
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No.268260
>>266968
I'm not sure if you wanted me to rate those Lilith games 10/10 for their high production values or 2/10 for gangbangs.
It's important to remember that my favourite nukige artist is Kagami by a mile, so even though I don't like a lot of the fetishes in the Taimanin Asagi games (gangbangs being chief among them), I love the art and can get some good faps to them. The writing is also a step above most nukige, I really like the sci fi futuristic setting. Even if you don't fap to TA:Z it still has a really cool atmosphere.
I got a good fap out of a few Kangoku Academia scenes (mainly the vanilla endings with heart-eyes) so it got the "6.9/10 i fapped" score I give most nukige.
You can complain about my Dies irae score when you can spell the name properly. Blammo.
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No.268306
>>268260
Kangoku getting a near 7/10 is plebomania, brosef. Sian got it great with more variation per CG set and his softness is nearly unmatched in the doujin scene but come on. Come on, really? 7/10 for that knock-off nothing new iteration of the series? Bruh
Also giving Lil' Asagi ZERO a 7/10 when we got something that was clearly stripped of content for yen and TABA gatcha potential is silly. Nearly no scenes of Murasaki, like one barely decent Oboro scene and a single scene of futa-Snake? It was basically the Sakura Power Hour really, which was alright enough in that department. The lack of cuck nonsense was pretty good, too, but a 7/10?
I like Kagami too mate but I get the feeling you'd score his jizz napkin a 8/10 if he drew his girls' eyes on it.
>You can complain about my Dies irae score when you can spell the name properly. Blammo.
Desi Irea is mediocre
fite me fagit
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No.268308
>>268260
No but hazing aside you have schizophrenic great-bad taste and should be ashamed
No but really I'm serious
Nah I'm just messing with you but TA3 is trash, though
Legit
That being said, I wonder if BISHOP will get creative with the H in the next KTJK game, like being forced to strip on the campus flagpole or something.
And I wish the upcoming Lilith game with Obui is more akin to Annerose than Yukikaze in style since we have another self-insert
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No.268311
>>268306
>I like Kagami too mate but I get the feeling you'd score his jizz napkin a 8/10 if he drew his girls' eyes on it.
Absolutely. What can I say? Asagi Zero was a fun time and it's the first Kagami game in years. Definitely worth a 7/10 from me. I didn't expect any Oboro or Murasaki so their relative lack of content doesn't bother me much. More for the main heroines.
For Kangoku, I actually was really hard on it for being so repetitive story-wise, but what can I say? It was still enjoyable and had some great scenes. When it comes to nukige I can't ask for anything more than that. More than worth a 6.9 (nice) to me.
>>268308
>you have schizophrenic great-bad taste
Now that I cannot deny. My scores are always given in the heat of the moment after I finish, and my opinions can change a lot.
My 7/10 for TA3 is largely based on the vanilla opening which I got a ton of good faps to. I didn't like most of the H in the rest of the game, but I like the Taimanin village setting it established, the ~lore~, some of the fight scenes, etc. It's alright.
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No.268321
>>268311
>all these reasonings for such scores
Dammit Quof, you're harder to hate than to love.
So what's your thoughts on the upcoming game?
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No.268334
>>268321
>no kagami
Pic.
But really, same old same old I guess. Can't say I'm that excited, since I've played almost every game they've released in the past 10 years and I'm pretty worn out by now, but it'll at least be worth playing.
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No.268345
>>268051
>But that would be making assumptions out of nothing.
The internet's favorite pastime
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No.269055
>>268311
You never said which was your favorite you know. SM, UK, MK3?
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No.269056
>>261347
What? I don't remember KS having bestiality
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No.269082
>>269055
It's hard to say anything about Sansha Mendan at this point because, having spent literally hours translating each individual scene, I can hardly look at the game from a normal perspective. Spending 1,000+ hours working on a 30~40 hour game will mess with your mind. That said, Aina is definitely my favourite Bishop heroine of all time, she suits my tastes perfectly and if I could have one waifu from hentai, she would be high on the list.
UK and MK3 is a really tight battle. I think UK is generally hotter than MK3, the rape is more intense and in turn the girls ahegao/sluttify way harder, it's great. But MK3 on the other hand has much better characterization and I personally prefer teacher heroines to student heroines. Plus, as I've mentioned before, I like the entire MK3 cast whereas I don't care much for Asami's route. On top of all that, gathering semen in UK is pretty tedious, which slows it down in comparison to MK3. For all those reasons - adult heroines, better characterization, no Asami, smooth gameplay - I think that MK3 is probably my favourite Bishop game even though at the end of the day I'll pop a bigger boner for UK. It's complicated.
Also, MK3 being more vanilla allows for some pretty great stuff, like all the reverse-rape scenes where one of the heroines get so horny they push MC over/attack him in his sleep/etc in order to get at his dick. It's great. Really, most games only reuse old scenes post-corruption, but MK3 has 2 new scenes post-corruption and they're always great since they really show how much the heroine's have fallen for MC and his dick. Like Chisato ducking out of the gym class she's teaching and inviting MC to the gym storage room to fuck. It's just all great stuff.
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No.269111
Will anyone in the new game dethrone Kazuha, the best student heroine of all time? It seems unlikely but one can always hope I guess.
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No.269131
>>269082
>characterization
Exactly!
>I think that MK3 is probably my favourite Bishop game even though at the end of the day I'll pop a bigger boner for UK. It's complicated.
Agreed on both counts. Agreed though I prefer the Ingrid expy to the Asagi expy since it has her seiyuu and she's just butter to the ears, even when she's stalking the MC through the trees for dick. And I forgot how MK3 does have new scenes post-break. Huh
Just makes me wonder all the more why they aren't going to Immoralize MK3. An anon said earlier that it's probably due to it being more recent but that doesn't really jive considering it's some years old now.
But yeah Kagami's fearlessness in distorting the girls' faces in UK was priceless. You get some shots in there which look like that one guy said "Her face is distorted in so much pleasure she looks like a lizard" or something, hilarious, but when you're immersed that insane face-break can be crazy fun, especially with the swinging fat tongue they gave Tsubaki. MK3 is my all-time absolute favorite but that fun rawness of UK is timeless.
Would be nice to get another game with extreme ahegao like UK, though without Kagami I don't know if that's doable. Oonari did pretty great, though, and he's had some crazy fun face-breaking ahegaos in the past but for some reason they are really rare, or at least to me. He and Rio seemed to try for some "horror-orgasm" faces in the first KTJK and that was interesting and sometimes fun but it wasn't really the same. I wonder what the sequel will look like.
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No.269137
>>269111
>Kazuha, the best student heroine of all time
Is that the blueberry with milk-spewing tits from KS?
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No.269169
>>269082
Wait, MK3 is translated??
Where? I can't find it
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No.269248
>>269169
I believe he only saying that he translated SM, not saying both. Mes till hope for s1 to translate MK4 though lol.
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No.269338
>>269169
Dude's just talking about games anon relax nothing is translated
MT is your friend
>>262309
What is the point of an Immoral Edition if it doesn't give higher resolution?
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No.269382
>>269338
The other reason is making the game run on more modern systems, that it wouldn't work on in the original version, for example due to the graphic engine used in it
Anyway going back to the next game what do you think the kind of fetishes the new heroines are going to have.
Here are my bets:
Light blond girl: Nymphomania
Blond girl: Masochism
Red / Violet girl: Anal
Pink girl: Exhibitionism
Violet girl ( Teacher ): Lactation
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No.269464
>>269137
She is blue and tit-based but she's from Kuro no Kyoushitsu. Big fan of her post-enslavement reaction scene among other things.
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No.269529
>>269464
Shame they didn't do more with her giant ass but yeah I can see how she can be a fave.
Man, Oonari gave her the biggest pregnant belly I've ever seen from him, though. She got triplets in there?
Sexy either way.
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No.269556
>>269382
>The other reason is making the game run on more modern systems
Wait, I don't understand. It's just a VN, though, and it already runs fine on modern OS as it is, so why would that be an issue for an immoral edition?
>Light blond girl: Nymphomania
>Blond girl: Masochism
>Red / Violet girl: Anal
>Pink girl: Exhibitionism
>Violet girl ( Teacher ): Lactation
Well going by what I've learned from Bishop titles, the blond is always a villainess and the pink is always a hyperslut. So I'd agree with you except
>Teacher - Anal
>Red/Violet - Breast bullying (maybe lactation, probably not though since they did that just in the last game)
I only say that because the teacher's ass is in highest view, though I was wrong about Miria when her shots came out and it looked like anal was in the works, so eh. I wonder.
It'd be fun to have another semen fetishist like Marika in the cast, maybe the turboslut pink could be that. I like her drills, though, gotta be honest. Also like how much the blond resembled that one evil woman from CnS.
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No.269682
>>269556
If you want some kind of easier example then I can use one. Try installing old game in 7 such like original MK2 in 7, it won't play(I tried it myself when installing one and hime dorei, causing me to install virtual xp for the latter). Those who used to have the original can ask for some mod from company if I was right by sending their product code or something.
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No.269791
>>269682
Oh! So it's not that MK3 can't play, but they are giving Immoral Editions first to those older games which would/could have a harder time. They get priority because of that. I guess I can see that.
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No.269807
>>269791
Pretty much like that. Although they too, pretty much release IE as they like since game like Hime dorei have not got any IE. If I recall too, some games that do work on 7 do not work on 10.
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No.269846
>>269807
So it really is all a whim on their part ultimately. Doing Hime Dorei and MK3 are my two hopes honestly.
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No.269955
>>269846
probably in many months later, they are going to running out of it soon enough as long as the original game works on 10 which preventing them from creating another IE
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No.270501
>>269111
>>269464
Good taste anon.
Kazuha is top tier. While Kuro no Kyoushitsu doesn't come even close to being my favorite Bishop game, Kazuha is my favorite girl. Absolutely everything from her looks to her vocie to her scenes to her personality and corruption fit perfectly into my tastes.
>>269529
Yeah the tits got all focus. I can't complain about that because I'm more of a tits man than an ass man but her ass and thighs certainly could have gotten more attention. I do like scenes that draw attention to it and to just how hourglass her figure is though. Like her pregnant epilogue, I love how voluptuous her curves look even bellow the sheets,
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No.270787
>>270501
That is some exquisitely comfy lust right there.
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No.271755
Gotta admit, I was always more into the teachers than the students, but seeing as how KTJK2 will be more student-focused I went back and looked over the more student oriented ones.
The shading is ass and there's a ridiculous amount of pitched bloom or something, but all in all I like H3. Protag was a great, reasonable guy and everything, though the lack of inflation is dumb considering the amount he put out on the regular
Also Mayu is my fave (outside the teacher) though I see what anons see in Shizuka
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No.274447
>>269111
Probably not. Kazuha is still my favorite heroine of all Bishop games. Just her alone was able to carry an mediocre game.
I just wish they make an immoral version someday with additional scenes. Its kind of dumb that every character in the game only has have of the post-corruption scenes, let alone some of them were taken over by a foreplay scene.
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No.276096
Any new info on the upcoming title?
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No.276489
>>276096
No, but I believe that we will get some information soon,
Judging from the past releases of Bishop VN a web page with details regarding the next work starts appearing around 4 months before the relaese date - and judging from the past I suspect that the next work is going to be released around the time period: end of February - end of March
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No.276515
>>276489
Wow you got it down to a science, bro
Nice
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No.278597
Gimme that ten piece chicken platter
Imma fill you up wit my baby batter
Don't want it? Don't need it?
Don't care DON'T MATTER
All that struggle just makes me fatter
Heat you so hot gonna get you rather
crazy so your thoughts just up and scatter
and out it rains from your squeezed up blatter
Grip your butt, you silly slut, so we fulfill your dream
That's right, imma be the one to make you scream
Hit you quick like a brick with muh dick, make you sick
Crush your womb till your tomb, make some room for my dick
Slam that ass, right in class– give me sass? Pride's grave
Get sweat, get wrecked, get preg– you're my slave
I am so tired and bored.
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No.278612
>>278597
On days like these, I'm glad I worked on SM.
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No.278643
>>278597
What song is this referencing
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No.278654
>>278612
I am convinced it is the best game they made, honestly, and its not just because its kagami's best
the writing is the best, the characters are memorable, and the golden bantz is unmatched.
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No.278857
>>278654
Agreed. I like Ura Kyoushi's H-scenes a lot, but the writing isn't really up to snuff and the characters aren't really as memorable. I like Mesu Kyoushi 3's writing and H-scenes a lot, but the H-scenes are more tepid overall. Sansha Mendan is the only game of theirs that gets everything right (except Marika's pregnant H-scene). Not to mention that SM has a lot of holy shit wowzer scenes that the other games kind of lack. For example, the Aina/Yuuna hotel threesome scene is a stronger climax than basically anything else I can remember from another Bishop game.
Needless to say, all modern Bishop games aren't even worth talking about due to no Kagami.
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No.278940
>>278857
I like Houkago 3 though :x
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No.278962
>>278857
MK3 is so great. Easily almost tied with being my favorite, probably gets a hairline cut close second fave, but SM really hit that sweet spot between UK and MK3. It's the best of both with enough to stand out on its own.
It's funny, it's interesting, it's unexpected. It can be cute. It can be romantic (Each pregnancy confession is just top tier but Nemu's pregnancy confession was something else, just her bursting into tears so thrilled)
It can be sad (Mifuyu being neglected by a clearly unloving absentee husband, realizing Yuuna's heartache after being so cruelly raped and suddenly abandoned– poor girl just needed to have her inner slut loosed but those evil villains sent away our valiant hero too soon before he could follow through, good thing he gets her in the end and makes her dream come true).
It's got a little drama (not MK3 but enough to give the womb-busting some flavor) and it's got the best crazy sex scenes. We could just go on and on about it, which really shows the longevity of fun. I really like my Asagi expy in UK but I prefer the purer Ingrid expy in MK3 (voice actress) anyway, but not even the great cast of girls in MK3 can really match the overall sweet slice of SM.
Seriously, there could not have been a better game to choose. It's so good that even anons who hate group sex get into the threesome endings–because what kind of monster would break up twins?
To this day the only thing I didn't like was that we didn't get double-preg endings, but I guess that's just being greedy considering the sheer amount of content already and that they do get pregnant in the harem ending.
>Needless to say, all modern Bishop games aren't even worth talking about due to no Kagami.
Well he need to be given at least a few days to breathe fresh air and given some salve his swollen, decrepit mangled hands after his long years in the TABA dungeon and immediately being shackled onto RPGX. The guy's making money like a bandit for sure but there's no denying that he doesn't have another SM in him right away. Heck the guy's barely got another TA in him let alone something as intensive as a bishop title.
But dude, if that ever happened…
>>278940
Nothing wrong with that. We all got our faves, bro.
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No.279625
Current Oonari is better than current Kagami.
And so is Akagi Rio.
Seriously while Kagami's past work is the best Bishop has to offer, I don't know how people can still say he being back would be an improvement looking at his recent output.
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No.279710
>>279625
>Oonari and Rio are better than current Kagami
I'd say that's absolutely correct, though due in large part to them not spending their lives (making sick bank) workin on gacha
>looking at his recent output.
It's heavily hit-and-miss. I will say that MK4 is some of his weakest work, for sure, yet even that is better than most TABA scenes as the years have gone by. That said, take a look at his RPGX work (the most recent stuff he's done).
Mind you, RPGX reuses TONS of scene CGs from TABA so maybe the work load is lighter and he can put more effort into it, or maybe the new coloring and shading technique they have (and whatever effects) is doing better for the work to look a lot better than old Lilith entries, but ultimately it is apparent that Kagami still has plenty of talent and life still in him.
The problem resides on Lilith's owners realizing how lucrative gacha is and forcing both Sasayama (the mook in charge of a lot of, if not almost all the famous Lilith projects we know about) and Kagami to remain on this project. By "force" I mean Sasayama crying on twitter about how badly he wishes he could do another actual game, how he could build on previous entries and one-offs (someone in the threads said Annerose, too), etc. But he's stuck in gacha hell, alongside a likely very lavished-living Kagami.
But the problem would be him actually putting in the effort and not just doing it after burn-out, which most think is the problem with Mesu Kyoushi 4 because compared to MK3 and especially Sansha Mendan it is highly inferior. Miyu is still bae but, seriously.
Could Kagami come back? No. If he did, would it be great? Maybe. He would have to actually care and not be frazzled. Maybe if you let him design a bunch of expy girls he'd be into it–if he ever left the luxury of gacha to work on a game again, let alone a Bishop title.
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No.279791
>>279710
>I just need more Miyu and Saya lol. I wish they make MK 5
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No.279865
>>279791
>not wanting another Takamine
Look at this queer. Look and laugh at him.
That's not what I said anon
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No.279910
>>279865
I do wish though, they should make a spin off another universe where you corrupt the Takamine family.
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No.279924
>>279625
Personally I still think the way Oonari draws pregnant bellies compared to Kagami is lacking.
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No.279925
>>279924
Well, that and breasts. Kagami has just the right amount of sag to breasts with characters in pose. The way he draws underboobs in general is quite nice too.
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No.279986
meanwhile I'll post this image since I kinda despaired a bit hoping someone would have the others image from カルティーナ
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No.280013
>>279925
Kagami's real fault was awkward faces (not the wacked-out great iconic ahegao but just awkwardly drawn, wonkily angled) and a general stiffness in character models and otherwise. His poses are great, true, but compared to someone like Rio, who has the best breast (and body) consistency, he can be pretty off at times. Consider even Mary Jane from Lilith's latest actual game, how her breasts are put into positions where they (also mostly well consistent in size) are smushed, flopped and rolled in ways Kagami's girls don't usually have.
Mind you, that's minor problems compared to MK4's rather bland, dull faces (excluding Miyu) and general stiffness otherwise.
Getting back a Kagami from the SM days would blow it up, though. Imagine a good, refreshed Kagami game. Could even have Rio and Oonari do a girl a piece. Call it "Blow Out Titty Mania". It'd be the tits.
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No.282910
I have become the truest Bishop fan
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No.282913
>>282910
Requesting some missing pic from Bishop artbook *teehee. If only my country allowed importing that books :x
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No.282918
>>282913
if possible the one with Saya that is missing from photo is good enough.
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No.282919
>>282918
I don't have a scanner or anything, so any photos I uploaded would be pretty shit quality.
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No.282920
>>282919
that is why I said photo is fine. I'm just kinda want to see the pic.
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No.282923
>>282920
Strategically censored my fingers so you don't see them while fapping.
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No.282924
>>282923
Thank you very much! Finally able to see it.
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No.282956
>>282910
Also, if there's anything of interest in the novel, I would like to know
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No.282958
>>282923
Thanks anon.
I always heard Kagami's artbook wasn't completely uploaded but I didn't know there were illustrations like this missing.
If it's not asking too much, could you take pictures from other images that are missing from https://exhentai.org/g/479495/af8b226075/ ?
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No.283022
>>282923
>Actually owning this
Oh, anon…
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No.283613
>>282910
>no Mifuyu daki
>no other Mifuyu illustrations but that one holstein outfit where her daughter takes up half the page and she's drawn with smaller tits and fattened bee stung lips
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No.284038
>>283613
At least we have this anon
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No.284069
>>284038
>where the publisher failed, the fans succeeded
It's good to anon
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No.286559
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No.286571
Quite a nice cover I must say. Considering the fact that from the cover's looks ( where the pink girls fingers look like going into the blonde's girl panties) I hope it suggests that there will be more yuri / threesome scenes, compared to the previous recent Bishop titles :)
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No.286578
>>286559
I'm hungry for some Ice Cream after looking at this.
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No.286593
>>286559
look kinda okay now. but I hope they change the post scene and the corruption part since I am not a fan to see those girls having scared face
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No.286903
>>286559
Alright it's official. SnK might have looked great but BISHOP LOVES DARK. KTJK looked better visually and this cover already looks better with the amount of detail put into the jacket, panties, etc. Hands, too. I'm excited.
Bishop puts more effort into darker themed games.
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No.286908
>>286593
Well they said it was gonna be a KTJK that focused on pleasure this time, so it should.
I hope we get more creative H scenes with the super power, though. That's my worry.
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No.287110
>>286908
Yeah, if he has the MC has the same kind of power as the previous one I hope they get more creative. Body control has so many possibilities, but like Mind Control, it's often just used as a lazy gimmick.
As for the tone, I like Kutsujoku's tone and wouldn't mind if the new game was similarly bleak, but I do want mindbreak happening earlier. One of the things that make me like Bishop so much over other companies is that they hit a good balance between rape/forced training and the post-fall eagerness many other games only have in the final scenes.
The retraining scenes are all abou that, it's weird how KTJK has them but without that aspect. I suspect the negative feedback over not having retraining in the previous game may have made them shoehorn it into an already in production Kutsujoku despite it not fitting well.
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No.287498
Well, since KTJK2 isn't the first game in the series .. I think that Bishop already has some idea of what was liked and disliked in the first game - at least among the japanese customers.
So based upon that I believe that KTJK2 is going to be an improvement compared to the first one - it's definitely going to still retain the darker 'mood' of the first one, but I believe that overall it's going to be a bit better.
And on the question of how much better it's going to be … personally I will wait for some more info regarding the protagonist and his 'targets' + cg's before answering that…
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No.287617
>>287498
It was funny to see the Nips getting put off by the same stuff we were. One of the few times that happens.
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No.287627
>>287110
>I suspect the negative feedback over not having retraining in the previous game may have made them shoehorn it into an already in production Kutsujoku despite it not fitting well.
I gat that feeling too. And yeah hopefully they get more creative.
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No.288805
I wanted to check none of the MK games have been translated right? Curious, as i'm going through 1 to 4.
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No.288814
>>288805
So far only SMIE is the english translated BISHOP game, so yeah none of the MK games have been translated
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No.288822
>>288814
Thanks! I didn't think so, but wasn't sure if VNDB hasn't been updated and whatnot.
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No.288826
>>288814
>Most BISHOP stuff is not translated
>Most Black Lilith shit is
Pretty unfair, but the west demographics are full of cucks so it's understandable.
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No.288831
>>288826
I personally think its more of a length thing. Most Lilith games are pretty short by VN standards and most BISHOP games are pretty long, especially adding all the routed together.
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No.288844
>>266975
>Miel-style inner shower
There really needs to me more of this. I hate how Miel is the only dev that regularly puts it in their games.
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No.289112
>>288826
Length matter and..it seems like more people prefer lilith too
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No.289116
>>288826
Well the preference of Kagami is a factor but it's mainly length. A typical bishop game like CnS has basically thrice as much text than Taimanin 2 or Annerose.
Remember, although the fun whizzes past us, time flying by, the actual length of a Bishop game is really impressive for a nukige.
Not everyone is Quof, anon. Not everyone is willing to work so long on a single game hoping that someone will care by the time it's actually done.
>the hero we need but don't deserve
Not to say Taimanin's fan translators aren't also hardcore but let's be honest, a Black Lilith title is significantly easier than even just SnK, let alone a game with much more content like SM
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No.289117
>>288826
>west demographics are full of cucks
That's true too. Can't discount the cuck numbers often outnumber the chadblasters
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No.289213
Putting aside the general lack of translators, and the unfathomable amount of untranslated nukige in general…
It's pretty much purely the length, modern Bishop games are among the longest nukige ever, full stop. Each individual route is equivalent in size to a smaller game thanks to how they hire multiple writers and artists. To finish any Bishop game you're looking at six months of full time work minimum, a year or more at a slower pace. The writing isn't exactly easy either, the sentences are long and there's a lot of dramatic flair that takes conscious effort to word properly in a way that remains hot, to say nothing of even flowing smoothly in English.
My feelings towards Mesu Kyoushi 3 and Ura Kyoushi are practically obsessive, but even so, starting either of them would necessitate I budget a year's worth of free time away. There's just no way to get around the massive work and time investment involved. Sansha Mendan, at least, I did half of while a NEET and the other half of while in between other projects. That's the kind of free time you need to have to handle a Bishop game.
For reference, Bishop games range from 35,000~50,000 lines, equating to roughly 1,300,000~1,600,000 characters. Translation speed varies according to translator but a full time translator are generally expected to TL 1,000,000~ character games in six months. Suffice to say, they're above average in length, and they take a lot of time to finish.
I don't have as specific numbers for Black Lilith games, having never extracted the scripts of any of them, but my estimate is that your average Black Lilith game is about a third of the size of your average Bishop game (400,000~500,000 characters). Excluding maybe Taimanin Asagi 3 which felt longer than average, but still, not nearly as long. Black Lilith games are more similar to your average mid-price nukige which tend to be around that long (Bishop being full-priced of course, which is surprisingly rare for nukige all things considered). Rattanman would know a lot more about this than me, but I think that's pretty close.
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No.289242
>>289213
So you mean to say that the MK3 translation is almost done. Good job, man! I can't wait! :^)
But I can see how that's the case. I'm getting into publication myself and word count is a huge devastating ordeal. Not counting the dopes like George "Defecation Nation" Martin who does next to no editing on any of his monsterously huge novels, the common book is about 100,000 words give or take a dozen thousand, and most novels are actually less than that, with first time novels being a mandatory 60-80k at MOST. This is a huge pain in the ass to edit whole chunks out of your work of twenty+ years but it makes sense logistically because it comes down to printing cost, profits and losses.
No one is mad enough to print a 300,000 word novel from a guy who hasn't had a career in television (like Martin) and even the storied Lord of the Rings is really more or less one gigantic novel split into three parts, and that's only after Hobbit which was roughly - you guessed it - 80-90,000 words.
So when you come to me telling me that a single game has literally OVER ONE AND HALF MILLION CHARACTERS that you have to translate, not including the more narrative flair/artistic prose which takes more time than just rearranging a machine translation, then you can't hear a complaint from me if you never touch another Bishop game again.
Japanese writing is verbose enough. It's even more blabber-mouth and overly detailed in hentai because, well, that's part of the sexual appeal. To think that a single game can have as much as a dozen novels' worth of words (or about two George RR Martin books) is unconscionable.
tl;dr I'm sure other anons will be more understanding of why our golden boy doesn't have any remotely near intention of working on another Bishop classic anytime soon. We appreciate you boi but our eagerness can get the better of us. Just know that you at least got the best one done (and I say that despite MK3 being my fave).
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No.289400
Well, seeing the KTJK2 'preview' webpage: http://www.bishop.gr.jp/products/ktjk2/index.html
I have definitely gotten some more hopes, that we will see some more threesome / yuri action in this game … considering what kind of 'action' is shown in the background image on that site.
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No.289416
>>289400
I'm curious if this is some alternate reality where Carrotboy, now a level-headed adult, never got as far as he did in the first game. That would be a neat twist as far as Bishop titles go, really. 'Plot' has never been their forte exactly, MK3 showed that in spades, but having the protag of KTJK2 be Carrotboy would be neat if they can redeem his character with some maturity.
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No.289418
>>289416
From what I remember BISHOP never used the same protagonist twice ( even in the 'sequel' series like MK or Houkago the protagonist was always different )… so, while I agree that would be a quite interesting concept, personally I think the chance of that happening is pretty low … since, it would be the 'first' time BISHOP would do something like that.
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No.289436
>>289416
>Carrotboy
Kek, I chuckled.
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No.289570
>>289416
>Carrotboy
kek
But I'm sure it's some descendant or something. Maybe it's a "soft reboot" kind of thing where the 2 is only there because they want to retread ground.
>>289400
I want to break in Horse Face on the far right there. I bet she gives head like her face is coming off with each suck.
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No.290312
>>289570
The short-haired girl looks pretty good. She's the one from the new artist though, I hope he does good expressions. Usually the expressions are what make or break the scenes for me. I hope so, she looks great, love her hair and proportions.
But as far as first impressions go, I can only say I like her and the blonde. The rest looks kind of meh.
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No.291228
Based upon a machine translation of the latest entry in Bishop's diary.
http://bishopdiary.blog35.fc2.com/blog-entry-245.html
Apart from some changes to the settings menu, a trail version of 'Humiliation II' is going to appear in the next month - most likely ( as usual ) containing the prologue part of the next game.
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No.291260
Hey, will they upload Gakuen 2 Immoral edition? If no, why?
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No.291278
>>291260
From what I know, after the Sansha Mendan Immoral Edition, none of the later rekeased Immoral Editions have been uploaded.
At least I never managed to find any trace of them. As for the reason … well, I'm not an uploader … so it's not 100% certain,, but since they are releases of older games they might not have a huge priority on the list of content to upload in the internet. :(
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No.291436
>>291228
Guess we will see how this game rolls soon enough. Kinda funny since they dont even have a proper website up for it yet.
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No.291438
>>291228
>"It's a dark theme game so lets make the menus spartan, drab and dark!"
I want to take a ruler to the kknuckles of the idiot who thinks this kind of thing up
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No.291680
GUYS QUOF DIED
I just heard about it from another thread in /v/ and I cant it's just
It's like when Zyzz died. I can't take it. I barely knew him but he was like a little glittery jewel that livened up the entire board. He got a ton of anons into Bishop games. He even got a couple of us into one of Miel's only really good titles. He was working mid project and then the shysters got to him. No more updates. I don't even know if he has work. If he doesn't have work he can't pay for internet. If he can't internet he can't post. If he can't post he will die! QUOF IS DEAD AND THEY KILLED HIM THE RAT FINK MOTHERS
He was just in this thread, too! Is he gone forever? quof was the best. He was hanging around, inspiring us to get our lives together by getting better taste in H. He was always there to chat and always fun with the japes. He'd post updates and pics all while being as insecure as the rest of us about his years long project. Nervous but also confident, working with others but striving alone. That's the Quof I remember.
His insight into the industry was crucial and his dedication to his passion was enlivening. When he would talk about cum production or grammatical editing it was great. Only this guy could make the most mundane topic interesting without even trying. I heard he found a lewd virgin and got her retarded pregnant on the teaching desk which is the tits but never was he one to let himself settle for second-best. He wanted perfection and demanded it of himself. He worked harder and more earnestly than any of the less lewd translators at Aksys Games, NISA or even Xseed in their pre-Sony censorship hayday. If Quof had been given the Ys license he would have gotten the game its right dues. He was disciplined, diligent and really an amiable man.
Quof was more than a fan translator. Quof was an unsung icon of this board and a symbol not just to hentai VN's players but to everyone who truly has a passion they want to pursue no matter what their NEET troubled life or this cancerous world with its vicious and sociopolitical shysters bring against them. Like a lewd Tron, he fought for the fappers.
I wish you were still around. That we could talk about H more and about other titles. I wish we could have you post like the old days. I wish you were still alive, but thinking like that, lingering on the loss of what was and longing for what will never be, is like menthol in the pussy. It burns.
We will miss you, man. We will never forget you.
When we play Sansha Mendan and violently impregnate teachers into screaming orgasms, we will remember you.
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No.291727
>>291680
Got a source on that news?
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No.291765
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No.291776
>>291680
Old news..old news
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No.291808
Wait quof isn't dead. Unless this was some other anon pretend posting >>289213
His career as a fan translator is though. "career" kek I guess "quof" is dead but quof isn't dead, you know what I mean.
Nevermind. False alarm. Wasted a eulogy on overreacting
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No.291821
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No.292355
HOW IS THE WEBSITE STILL NOT FINISHED?!
What is going on at Bishop?
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No.292401
>>292355
Bishop usually posts updates on Fridays - Saturdays and the 'true' website usually appears once 'shop' reservations for the new game are opened - which occurs on the current weeks Friday.
So , I think that so far everything is going by Bishop's usual release schedule…
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No.292855
>>292401
Got it down to a science, man. Alright
Guess I'm just the earliest I've been
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No.293183
Getchu page already has some more information + cgs about the new work.
http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=1032313
From this it is pretty much confirmed that sensei chan + main girl are virgins - there are some penetrations with blood in the released cgs.
Probably the reset of the girls are the same, but that is not yet confirmed.
There is also the fact that the main girl is related to the protagonist … but isn't aware of this fact due to her family keeping his existence a secret ( at least based on google translate ) so there might be some incest in the mix as well…
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No.293195
>>293183
Hopefully its not a too close relationship. I hope its cousins at most.
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No.293487
'Proper' website of the new work is open:
http://www.bishop.gr.jp/products/ktjk2/index.html
Based on the released cgs … so far the one that interests me the most is of Miori ( violet haired girl ) wearing a bunny girl outfit with a vibrator in her pussy and being 'manipulated' to move up and down … with the possibility of being caught doing something like that, judging from one of the images provided…
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No.293489
Sayuki first scene sample with her second scene sample look weird..it feels like I saw 2 different people instead of 1 person..prob It just me
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No.293492
>>293489
Different light shading, which causes Sayuki's hair to 'partially' look white rather then blonde..
Probably has to do with the fact that she has a slightly unusual hair color, at least when it comes to Bishop's heroines, so the artists might not have a lot of experience in adjusting the background lightning to 'properly' convey the hair color… .
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No.293493
>>293492
I feels like the 2nd one feels more "adult" from the body size. Maybe I was wrong
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No.293494
>>293493
Maybe the protagonist has 'manipulated' her to undergo some 'breast expansion'.during her 'training'.
After all we don't know how much time passed between those two scenes, so that's definitely a possibility.
.
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No.293758
>>293195
>>293183
Well the first KTJK had half-sister so it's probably the same here.
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No.293760
WOW Horseface-sensei is looking GOOD in the CGs. I thought her art would suck since the character portrait has that oblong face to it but this is promising.
Also the blond is looking real fun here.
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No.294274
>>293758
In KTJK Aika was a step sister,which means no blood relation.
KJ had Momoka which was the protagonists half sister.
So , if Bishop aims to do a similar thing Sayuki might also the protagonists step sister…
From what I remember the last cousin heroine was in Mesu Kyoushi 4 … so that also is an option….
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No.294374
Bishop released a patch for KTJK correcting some height differences for the heroines when 'dress' is set on highest position..
http://www.bishop.gr.jp/support/details/details_053ktjk.html
Haven't managed to see if it's actually effective, but considering they made the effort to patch something like that a year after the game was released….
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No.294467
>>294374
>a patch for KTJK correcting some height differences for the heroines when 'dress' is set on highest position..
That's a real autistic level of detail right there
Pretty cool
Now if only they'd patch the pubes on SnK
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No.294468
>>294274
Well let's not forget that full-on incest was featured in SLG where the protag's daughter is his new slave
But you might be right
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No.294924
Well I decided to check out the V.A. for the new cast and if they did any previous Bishop role
Sayuki (Pale-Hair): First time
Rikka (Blonde): Tomoe
Miori (Redhead): Miria
Noeru (Pink): Emiri
Manami (Purple): A BISHOP regular: Touko, Azusa, Hatsune, and Misato from manin densha 2
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No.294967
>>294924
Huh, I didn't realize Hatsune had the same VA as the first two. Now I kind of want to go back and see if I can recognize it.
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No.295044
>>234540
Is Sansha Mendan the only Bishop game with an English translation?
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No.295045
>>294924
It's a heck of a coincidence that Sayuki's VA's stage name is Aika.
>>295044
It is the only one. Yes.
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No.295080
>>294924
Miori and Rikka's seiyuu will definitely sound different for their characters, mostly, but I'm interested to hear Manami's VA
If only Kagami was back. We could have had another expy…
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No.295082
>>295080
>Manami/Rieri
>same hair color, similar hair style (wavy instead of straight though
>similar body, similar bust size
>Rieri's name is "Bishop"
So close yet so far
I admit though I like teachers over students but Noeru is so beautiful I'm pretty excited for the students this time. Rikka too
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No.298121
Found some poster images from the next new game … ( unfortunately heavily censored ) but they might provide some hints, on what kind of 'play' outfits the heroines are going to have in this game…
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No.298123
>>298121
Better version of one of those pics :)
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No.298245
>>298121
The one on the left almost has a Kagami feel to it, and MAN has Oonari gotten unbelievable with his girls' legs. Splayed out like that with such definition and shading it's like you can dive right in
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No.298750
Anyone know how to extract BISHOP games? Like CG rips, graphic rips, etc…
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No.298864
>>298750
No idea actually. I usually just go find it on panda
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No.299249
>>298750
Garbro works fine for extracting.
But faces, pubic hair and other minor differences are kept separate from the base CG, so if you do extract you have to put it together by yourself.
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No.299269
Well I was able to use Garbro fine, but I still don't know how to extract the text of the game
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No.299285
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No.299417
>>298123
Oonari's binging back that old costume from Ura Kyoushi, huh? Asami wore pretty much a near similar one. It is a pretty good outfit, after all, though.
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No.300141
Apparently Sansha Mendan will be getting an anime adaptation this year… By fucking Poro.
We still can't have nice things I see.
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No.300369
>>300141
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
why those fukken good thing get worst treatment everrrrrrrrr
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No.300373
>>300369
As if they ruining MK4 is not enough. Now they want this? Is Bishop do not care at all. Why not the studio who make CnS..that one is better. That a1c even ruining Majin quality
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No.300428
If anyone is interested I found a KTJK2 cover without the text in it…
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No.300771
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No.300922
>>300369
>>300141
>>300373
It pretty much seems that A1C is now only PooRo now, despite that the other labels still exist. And considering there haven't been any character designs like the ones from the older Kuroinu episodes or Last Waltz and the such (the ones they used for nearly ten years straight or so) it's most possible that they fired those old teams to begin with and now only have PoRO to work with. Kind of sad, but also shows just how low the state of hentai animations are now.
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No.300928
>>300922
I wish the same studio that did Chijoku no Seifuku did Sansha Mendan… Would make it much more justice. Some of their adaptations of Lune games are pretty good. CnS isn't half bad either though to be honest I watched it only for Akemi.
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No.301128
Can I know the last game that have a bad end if you ignore a character long enough despite the limit day of the game haven't reach it end?
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No.301298
>>300928
Even when they omit stuff due to current year hentai animation standards, T-REX is still infinitely better than PoRo, because they make an effort to at least respect the original source material in the best way they can despite their limitations.
Meanwhile, PoRo likes to fade out into credits in the middle of a sex scene as much as possible.
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No.301739
>>300428
Nice find! Looking real good here. I especially like the shading on the hand lifting the breast, though Pinky's tits are looking a bit too saggy for someone so young and a chest that small. It works with big breasts but it's odd in that angle to me.
>>300922
> it's most possible that they fired those old teams to begin with and now only have PoRO to work with.
All the more reason to avoid anime adaptations. They will always be inferior despite the singular advantage of actual movement.
>>301128
>Can I know the last game that have a bad end if you ignore a character long enough despite the limit day of the game haven't reach it end?
Tokubetsu 3 SLG most likely. I can't remember the last game with a bad end aside from missing the very large time limit.
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No.302276
While we're waiting on Kutsujoku 2 I decided to check out this title and think some of you guys might like it too. Kangoku ~Kairaku Kousei Project~ It's exactly like a parody of a Bishop game
You are the disciplinary of four exceedingly violent and cunning prisoners who keep attempting to escape via brawls and seduction. You had almost thought of quitting ever since you got to this job because your dream of making sex slaves and a harem was crushed when you were given nothing but muscular gorilla women (it's prison, remember?). Then THIS job comes up.
It's got the premise of a Bishop game but the kind of lighthearted humor typical of Atelier Kaguya Gassa-Q, the dev team behind Sispaco and Namepu!, two of the funniest nukige I've ever played.
Expect a lot of dubiously consensual rape, humor and character interaction.
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No.302294
>>301739
Yeah, it seems that hentai animations are pretty much dude in [CURRENT YEAR]; not even simple vanilla stuff seems to be well done now. Last good one was probably Gakuen Jikan Tomare, which is ironically by A1C's Suzuki Mirano label as well - probably the last one the team of Koreans worked in, too, considering how the next one was basically PoRO-tier.
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No.302390
>>302276
At least from the website and previews doesn't strike me as that humorous. Looks like about the same tone as a Bishop game actually.
The art is also nice. I think I may give it a look once it releases. I just hope the sex is not too boring, that tends to be the problem with a lot of light-hearted games to me. There is some bondage and stuff so it should be fine.
The game I was expecting to fill the gap until Kutsujoku 2 released keeps getting delayed over and over and is now set to be released a week before Kutsujoku 2.
It's the third Ane Ane W Saimin game in case anyone is curious. Not much overlap with Bishop's stuff so there's no reason to talk about it in this thread I guess. I recommend the first one to anyone into mind control and shimaidon, at least.
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No.302416
A few more poster images for KTJK2 have appeared. Unfortunately couldn't find text free versions…
Although, I have to say that some of Rikka's ( blonde ) outfits are pretty good and I hope that they will appear in the game as well…
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No.302421
>>302390
>Ane Ane W Saimin game
Oh good idea yeah. Shame it keeps getting pushed back
>>302416
>that shading
>that depth
It's like you can reach in and grab that ass. Amazing. Looking forward to the bonnet bunny outfit
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No.302649
>>302390
The humor really comes from the girls mainly and a few moments here and there, but the demo ends on a pretty dark note with two of the girls being mostly mindbroken (the first was more her own fault for chugging the protag's energy drinks without realizing they were aphrodisiac drinks for his job) and definitely feels more Bishop than parody.
But the music outside of those moments is light and the humor is there, which leads to a very odd clash of tones I hope is hammered out in the final game. It's weird.
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No.302669
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No.302681
>>302669
Looks like instead of seeking revenge Kutsujoku 2 protagonist is tormenting the girls for shits and giggles because he can. That alreaqdy ensues a much less whiny protagonist. Probably will be more along the lines of Ryou, Reiji or Yoshiyuki.
Also the feature pages confirm that there will be more focus on enjoying the girls who fell to pleasure compared to the first game.
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No.302706
>>302681
>protagonist is tormenting the girls for shits and giggles because he can.
NICE
This is gonna be fun man
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No.302707
>どこまでも自分勝手に男の欲望をぶつけ尽くす究極のエゴセックスがここに実現!
>The ultimate ego sex that hits men's desires on a selfish basis is realized here!
lol
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No.304140
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No.304211
Well, I have to say that the KTJK2 girls voices are quite good.
And after hearing Rikka's lines I really think that she is going to get the M treatment… since that's usually the fate of prideful / arrogant girls in the BISHOP universe.
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No.304212
>>304140
http://bishop.jp/products/ktjk2/arcs/manami04.mp3
Wait a minute I know that voice. That's my bae! She did Yoshi in MK3! SHE'S BACK! MY FAVORITE H SEIYUU IS BACK!!
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No.304223
Here's my pocket change
Sayuki Yumihara (white) is voiced by Aika Kashiwagi who is a very new talent. She has a decent voice and I wouldn't mind hearing more from her. As for the character, she sounds alright.
http://bishop.jp/products/ktjk2/arcs/sayuki02.mp3
Her H skill is more breathy than expected. Lots of panting. It's alright.
http://bishop.jp/products/ktjk2/arcs/sayuki04.mp3
Kinda feel bad I can't say more then "alright" for such a new actress.
Noeru (pink) has a mature loli quality (not lolibaba just a mature tone) which I was not expecting. I thought she'd be squeaky and high pitched but instead she really stays gentle and subdued.
http://bishop.jp/products/ktjk2/arcs/noeru02.mp3
This quality keeps up during H which shows some very good consistency. Chiyoko Suama is a fairly new talent but she sounds excellent.
http://bishop.jp/products/ktjk2/arcs/noeru04.mp3
The orgasm is kinda funny in that it sounds like Suama went on so long she nearly hiccuped in the end. It's cute.
http://bishop.jp/products/ktjk2/arcs/noeru07.mp3
Miori (red) sounds like a young Miria which is nice and soft as butter on the ears.
http://bishop.jp/products/ktjk2/arcs/miori02.mp3
Ren Haruna, her voice actress, does the same vocal regression thing she did for Miria too but since Miori's voice is younger the regression makes her sound like a loli which is extra nice
http://bishop.jp/products/ktjk2/arcs/miori05.mp3
Honestly she's fast becoming a new favorite of mine. I could imagine her doing bigger roles and heroine pieces, too. She doesn't seem to be able to do different voices but what she does is great. Honestly this voice is soothing and sexy.
Rikka (blond) is as much of a sharp-tongued royal bitch as she looks. Her voice is higher pitched than I would have liked, though, and she has this thing with her tongue that almost sounds like she took speech therapy for a lisp. Anyone else hearing that?
http://bishop.jp/products/ktjk2/arcs/rikka02.mp3
Her voice gets higher in H which gives me a headache, but at the same time I kind of like it.
http://bishop.jp/products/ktjk2/arcs/rikka05.mp3
Her orgasms can die in a fire, though. I don't need my eardrums getting that broke.
http://bishop.jp/products/ktjk2/arcs/rikka07.mp3
Miu Aoi is her VA and she's been slamming work since '06 so she's got no excuse for this, or maybe that's just her style. Either way I hope the BGM is gonna make up for her because Rikka I was looking forward to and now not so much.
Obviously no need to talk about the other one since she's the same as always. You either like her voice or hate it but she's the most veteran of the cast. I really like BISHOP bringing in newer talent with the voice actresses like they did with the artists. Hopefully this will be a good stepping stone for them, too.
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No.304224
I laid it heavy on Rikka's VA but I will say to her credit that she does some really good acting. Her vocal inflection is on point and she really brings across her character. In her voice alone she has more personality than half the cast.
Aoi isn't that bad I guess. Her skills are good! But her high-pitched stuff is ridiculous
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No.304366
No one has mentioned it, but another poster image has appeared for KTJK2
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No.304385
>>304366
Her outfit is a mess but she looks great. Her breasts are also much better here than on the cover and the depth is great from the knees back. That said her shoes are so bulbous they remind me of Kingdom Hearts
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No.304501
>>304385
>That said her shoes are so bulbous they remind me of Kingdom Hearts
ONLY 5 MORE DAYS
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No.304565
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No.304769
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No.304804
>>304769
This is looking pretty good.
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No.304807
>>304804
The only thing that I'm a little worried about… is that so far there hasn't been any mention of the outcome when you repeatedly put out something inside a girl.
Well, it's a BISHOP game, so the possibility is small, and the first KTJK had that outcome … but still …
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No.304810
>>304807
I think we'll be fine.
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No.304813
>>304810
Wrong pic, sorry.
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No.304814
>>304813
And now I forgot to spoiler the image.
Y'know I'll just leave…
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No.304853
>>304804
>that belly in pic 1
>pic 4, just everything about it
>pic 5, a harem scene reminiscent of Sansha Mendan
>those faces
BRUH
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No.304876
Anybody chuckled at the character introduction? I'm sorry, but seeing the girls holding up the intro cards like prison suspects is just hilarious to me
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No.304933
Well, based on the trailer, I suspect the fallowing sexual traits for the heroines:
Sayuki: Exposure
Rikka: Masochism
Noeuru: Lactation ( she has what appears to be a cow outfit in one of the demo scenes ) or lesbian ( evolves into bisexual )
Miori: Sperm or penis
Manami: Anal
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No.304937
>>304933
I think that was a dog outfit, not a cow. And if Noeru was lactation theme, the previews would've already said that
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No.305090
Does anyone have polls about BISHOP characters' popularity? I was talking to someone the other day and he was claiming Saya was the most popular girl, but I was wondering if there was more solid evidence beyond some random anon.
>>302681
>protagonist is tormenting the girls for shits and giggles because he can
Just like MK2's, based. I was getting sick of all these retard MCs that had some kind of "sad" backstory and were "doing it out of obligation" and all that nonsense.
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No.305252
>>304937
>>304937
This? Pretty sure it's a cat. That's a cat bell.
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No.305255
>>305252
I have this crazy hunch that it may actually be a reindeer. Her name is Noel. She's wearing christmas colors. That bell looks like a christmas decoration chime.
Though cat is more likely, yes.
>>305090
People have repeated Saya is or at least used to be the most popular Bishop girl for years. It's based on the fact she got reused two times I think. And every time she (and Miyu) got the best promotional stuff like telephone cards and mousepads.
I don't know if there are any popularity polls.
>Just like MK2's, based. I was getting sick of all these retard MCs that had some kind of "sad" backstory and were "doing it out of obligation" and all that nonsense.
Unless I'm forgetting something Shihai no Kyoudan's protagonist is like that as well.
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No.305298
>>305255
Oh yeah, I didn't mean that all of the recent MCs were like that; after all, Chijoku's was also a straight-up perv, and IIRC, Kagai's was all about power megalomaniac type or such. What I meant is that I disliked the MK3 or KTJK types, who are like "oh woe me, I have to fuck these girls out of revenge/this psychological factor" types. The worst one will always be MK4's though.
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No.305380
>>305298
How is MK4's MC worse than MK3?
Sure he is doing things for revenge but his personality is closer to what I expect/want of a Bishop protagonist than MK3 amnesiac cherry faggot.
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No.305712
Well , one of the things that I like from the trailer, is the fact that it seems KTJK2 is going to be also a game, where the heroines are going to lift their skirts up and show their panties ( and like in Kuro no Kyoushitsu maybe there is going to be an option to lower the panties as well. ) in the Dress option.
After all, to me that kind of option is the most natural one, at least compared to the options that some of the other BISHOP games had…
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No.306206
>>305712
I like that too.
I don't use the standard strip options because I think it breaks immersion. But I do use the upskirt option when the protagonist and the girl are alone. Like he set up a rule the slaves always have to present themselves to him. If there's an option of keeping or lowering panties, I keep the panties on before mindbreak and lowered after.
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No.306314
Really looking forward to this one, although this CG here is a bit disappointing since it looks like Oonari just slid the pic of the foot over Rikka's head like he edited it in GIMP or something. More show of contact is better, more believable.
But man Horseface is looking better and better the more she shows up. I thought Horse Face Sensei was going to be "meh" but her face looks a lot better at angles and in CGs. Shame the default portrait is so goofy.
And WOW am I looking forward to Rikka and Noeru. I've never been into cute girls but Noeru is something special, and Rikka is another one of Oonari's best bitch characters, calling it now.
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No.307209
I like playing as a vengeful man with a chip on his shoulder.
It reminds me of me.
Are we doing that again in the new game?
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No.307349
>>307209
>It reminds me of me.
anon
And probably not. It seems like a guy just going at it for fun like Ryuji, only instead of having an assistant this time he's got superpowers.
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No.307618
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No.307628
Doesn't seems like there are any more clothing in this demo if I didn't miss any.
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No.307636
From the demo … looks like the following dress options are available
[spoiler]
1.) normal
2.) showing underwear + lifted skirt
3.) lowered underwear + lifted skirt
4,) showing breasts
5.) no skirt
6.) underwear + socks
7.) underwear
8.) nude
[/spoiler]
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No.307699
>>307618
Yes! Sweet
>>307636
>[spoiler]
brev wat
Use **before and after every sentence to spoiler it
>>307628
>that pose from Rikka
Oh wow that really shows her off great. Nice shading, good show of her fitness and flat belly while also emphasizing her breasts and showing off her hair braids.
Though dude have Oonari's calves always been so twiggy? It's like they're cripples trying to walk. So thin.
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No.307793
Protag is a gym teacher at a prestigious Western-style all-girls high school. He always wanted to be a teacher but studying was hard so he trained to be in Phys Ed and got a degree. However, he has a major problem–he freezes up around the opposite sex. He has no idea why he is like this and can't remember when it began, but because of this he is ridiculed by the student body and lost all respect from the other teachers.
Something else, as well–for the longest time he has felt that something was…off about him. He felt incongruous to his life, like "the lead role was replaced by a random actor". In his mind he feels almost beside himself and he wonders if it is because of his awkwardness or if his awkwardness is because of this feeling. Why is he like this? When did he become like this? Why didn't he have relationships in his younger days and why can't he keep one now? What is wrong with him?
The story begins with Protag putting on his shoes only to see his foot bleeding. There was a thumbtack stuck inside and he stepped on it. Rikka appears to mock him alongside her friends and because of the Protag's circumstances he does what he always does, just akwardly fakes a smile and goes along with it, saying "I guess I should watch where I step, huh?" There's no evidence and no confession from Rikka doing it but he's not stupid. The girls remark about how he looks stupid and basically regard him as having a fear grimace so Rikka jabs about how pathetic he is to be a grown man scared of female students.
Later on the Protag is wondering what is wrong with him until he bumps into Sayuki, who is the only kind and obedient student who still treats him like a teacher. Her respect for him is a healing salve to the soul. Then suddenly his heart kicks and he feels that peculiar feeling he always gets when around her. It's not unpleasant but it's not right. She notices his shifting feet and immediately gets worried about his limp. He tells her about the thumbtack and she asks "Are you hurt? Did you get it treated? Oh no!"
He says it'll heal on its own but she tells him, "Don't say that, Sensei. If it was a thumbtack then it could be really bad or if it fell on the floor even once it could lead to infection."
They have a good rapport and she insists on leading him to the nurse's office where she actually tends to his wound in the nurse's absence. She's a sweetheart dude.
He apologizes, she says not to worry, and then he realizes–Hey, I'm not having a problem! I actually feel calm being alone with a cute girl. They talk a bit until she jokes about shoe shining or something and wonders about "Master"
>Everything shoots dark. Master? Master? The sensation now…feels like my head is heavy and shaken. Master… Sayuki, woman, but Master… My head is spinning. I think I can remember something… Remember? Remember what?
She calls him back to reality and it slips from him. She's worried about his suddenly terrible complexion but he says he's just tired and will take a rest in the instructor's office.
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No.307796
Going beat-for-beat is too much text but I want to point out some stuff as I go. The Protag apparently only met Sayuki for the first time not long ago as she's a new transfer student and on the first meet he comments that they have met before. She says it's the first time but he could swear he has met her before…
Also he jerks off in his room to her and goes online to watch a virtual youtuber.
I really like this since I wanted Bishop to return to non-H CGs of the characters and this is an interesting introduction (and only one like it so far).
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No.307807
>>307796
Also her voice actress does a really good job at capturing the usual vocal inflections of a bacharu yoochooba
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No.307839
Alright so Noeru is very Ayanami in her stoic nature and focuses more on class than other students (while no one apparently mentions that she looks exactly like a certain virtual youtuber).
Miori is the beloved student counsel prez who "kindly" tells him to get his act together right there in the hallway. Totally not humiliating. Not at all…
Manami keeps implying he's a creep and pathetic and that it's because of things like letting a student tend to his wound that he lost all clout with the students, etc.
Rikka is an evil girl who gets him into the locker room after class and peppersprays his eyes for kicks. He suddenly shouts WAIT and she stops still, but only for a moment as it wears off since he's focused on trying not to claw at the burning in his eyes. Then he washes it out (apparently you can recover from pepper spray easy it just takes clean water and continual dousing of the eyes and eventually, in a while, you'll be just puffy and irritated not in pain. Thanks for the heads-up game).
THAT is when he realizes why he thought he saw Sayuki before. He realizes who he truly is and what happened to him, and after Sayuki explains that her older sister went abroad suddenly and she was sent to this all-girls school by her parents for her protection, the Protag starts manipulating her. One more H later and we learn the truth.
Turns out the Protag was always doing this to women with his power so his "family" tried to catch him. They finally drugged his food and sent him to be imprisoned and undergo hypnotism, brainwashing and something else (not specified) to screw with his head and personality to make him harmless. Ten years ago this happened and Sayuki's sister was the last victim he could get but she fled abroad and her parents sent their other daughter to this prestigious all-girls academy for her protection without realizing HE was working there.
Now it's not a matter of having a chip on his shoulder or being entitled. He just wants to do what he always did–conquer and humiliate girls with his power.
I assume this is the reason why the OP is about being a "prisoner" and not the same kind of "doll" motif the first one had. I also get the feeling this protag was meant to be the older version of the first game's protag and it was to take place after the Bad End of the first game, but somewhere along the way they rewrote it to not be directly connected with the first game in that way. I don't mind, honestly, since this protag isn't a carrot juice entitled anime Elliot Roger faggot.
Oh, and the super power is a bit different. The last game had an image that looked like nerve endings, which makes sense, but this one has it looking like chemical components or genes. I doubt it matters but I personally like to think the new Protag is so OP he can control people at the genetic level.
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No.307864
>>307839
Well, the title of the OP 'Prisoner' might also have the meaning in the context of the girls .. after all, they are initially prisoners of the MC ability and in the end they become the prisoners of their 'body lust' after their 'training'.
Not to mention it's not the heroines don't deserve some 'humiliation' considering how they treated the MC … well apart from Sayuki whose story is the most 'unfortunate' one… although, it is also similar to the story of KTJK 1 main heroine Ayana who, in a different way then Sayuki, was also responsible for unleashing the 'beast'…
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No.308109
>>307793
Hey, what translation tool are you using?
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No.308116
Well that was fun. Usually we get the demo two weeks before launch but I guess they wanted to hurry things along.
Yugo himself is already an improvement over carrot boy for multiple reasons. One of that is how they're patheticness is portrayed. Souichi is a straight up moron and wimp. Yugo isn't a moron (he was smart enough for a school as prestigious to take him as a teacher) and his wimpiness is actually justified by the side-effect of his brainwashing. The moment he unlocks his memory, he decides to go on a Bishop rape spree and become the standard MC, which is just fine.
Sayuki: Oh how cute. I always enjoy the girl next door more if they get a hair color other then pink or brown. My hope is that her ending will have her help the MC finish the job and corrupting her sister and the last scene is a shimaidon between her and her sister
Rikka: Definitely a major bitch who deserves to be turn into a bitch slave. She's like Shizuka and Serika, in that she bought her fate as a slave onto herself. Sure Sayuki was the fuel, but she was the match.
Noeru: Ok, she might turn out be my favorite loli in the BISHOP catalogue. I'm not a fan of this archetype, but her design is just appealing, and her idol personality is all type of hilarious. Plus she is just so cute.
Miori: I have the least to say about her. She wasn't featured as much so I have to wait for the game proper. Though the condescending kindness is a nice touch. Her art style is a bit weird, especially in the eyes department. They feel too unfocused even for a slaver like the BISHOP MC.
Manami: Not as featured as much, but still interesting to see. She serves as meaner then Miori, but nicer then Rikka and is just a disciplanarian type. Like Miori, the game proper will flesh her out more.
So the cast looks solid overall. It has nice art, and the story has that nice feeling of a man who both wants slaves and a little revenge. Hope to see more soon.
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No.308126
>>307925
>>307916
especially >>307918
A real villainness, a stoic girl who's secretly a virtual youtuber and the return of Haruno Sakaki.
I don't think this game could have gotten me more hype
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No.308133
>>307864
Good point.
>>307973
Nice! thanks
>>308109
VNR
>>308116
Nice and concise anon good job
>the last scene is a shimaidon between her and her sister
That would be the amazing. Maybe even a nice little throw-back to Sansha Mendan
And yeah I kinda like Yugo so far.
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No.308320
>>30816
While that would be a quite nice idea, personally I think the possibility of that happening is pretty small due to the fact that
1.) 10 years has passed since the MC has 'encountered' Sayuki's sister and we don't know what kind of developments have occurred to her in that time + if Bishop wanted to get her back in the future, I think they should have put a little more focus on her - for example by giving her a character design instead of a few shade of gray cg's…
2.) The 'family' knows that the MC has 'trained' Sayuki's sister so they sent her aboard - personally I wouldn't be suprised if they put some means to monitor her actions, especially considering they know about the MC ability.
3.) The last one is a bit from the design / cost standpoint, but for Sayuki's sister to get back in the story … one of the contracted artists would need to design her 10 year older character appearance … she would need a voice over that would sound 'older' then she did in the prologue … overall it would increase the costs of producing this VN and we don't know what kind of budget KTJK2 had…
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No.308435
I wonder is there any faster way to paste the face on cg and ch set. Me tend to manually compare using pic composite software
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No.308442
Some new KTJK2 poster images:
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No.308613
>>308442
I really like it when Akagi Rio makes a pic and signs it. Reminds me of what he did for free for Miria because he just liked her design so much.
Noeru is definitely a new fave I'm sure.
I also really like it when the poster depicts what actually happens, or the girl in a suit that's really in the game so I'm happy to see that for Rikka.
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No.308636
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No.309102
Mizushima☆Oonari WORKs
I hope someone can share the art book :s
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No.309105
>>309102
Is it released already?
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No.309106
OH!
>恥辱調教中はヒロイン視点のモノローグや心の声でイベントが展開!
Bro We're gonna get internal monologues from the girls! Their internal thoughts!
BRO
BRO
I am hype. We haven't had a game with internal thoughts in ages, maybe since that psychic train groper game. This will really be fun.
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No.309275
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No.309278
There is also a master up ilustration
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No.309288
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No.309341
>>309275
Swanky, though I wish I knew what the moon creature was saying.
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No.309347
>>309275
God damn that is a nice ass.
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No.309350
>>309341
More or less she tells that there is a male teacher who has a ability to control peoples bodies.
After that Sayuki tells that he uses that ability to ashame / humiliate schoolgirls and women teachers and that she is one of the schoolgirls that the MC treats like that.
After that she tells what kind of horrible acts he is making her do … eating a penis, forcing her body to masturbate during class and the last one is playing with her asshole.
Finally she concludes this with a statement like this: 'but I won't lose to this humiliation'. to which the MC uses his ability and answers with something that I think is similar to "kukuku … do you really think so ?
Before you ask … I don't perfectly understand Japanese, this is just using my minor language knowledge from hearing the words alongside it's meaning through the ITH \ VNR tools… when I play VN's.
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No.309706
>>309350
That's some major minor language knowledge bro but hey, cool beans. Thanks!
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No.309767
KTJK2 features page has been updated
http://www.bishop.gr.jp/products/ktjk2/feature.html
Seems like this time we are going to get some ahegao cutin's
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No.309773
>>309767
>ahegao cut ins
Not what I expected but interesting all the same. Man Akagi Rio has really grown more comfortable with making ahegao. This is a great face
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No.309831
And here's a drawing of Sayuki in a virgin killer…which we already did in the demo, but semantics
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No.309834
>>308636
Any manual, since this one is even more confusing? or in english?
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No.309845
>>309831
>which we already did in the demo
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No.309878
>>309288
>2011
Oh I thought it was new. If no one uloaded it until now I think there's little chance of that sadly.
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No.309880
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No.309919
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No.310033
>>309919
Nice, thanks. Guess I cant use Garbro since there are no coordinate
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No.310099
>>309880
>and she's voiced by my fave seiyuu
Also, reminds me of when Ryuji tickled Mifuyu into peeing behind the podium during public assembly.
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No.310656
A few new KTJK2 cgs ( that are to be used on the front page, which is the reason for the bad quality, but at least it gives some ideas on what the heroines might go through during their training )
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No.310694
>>310656
>stupid triangle pubis
I miss when they had the artists take their time and actually craft pubes
Though I'm hype for Noeru in that idol outfit and Rikka's stockings
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No.310716
>>239265
what game is that in the 2nd picture?
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No.310751
>>310716
Sansha Mendan, our one and only translated game.
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No.311763
Can anyone tell me what happens on each route of の の 教 壇?
a detailed summary
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No.311840
>>311763
https://8ch.net/hgg/res/170600.html
Or better yet just use a machine translator anon.
ITH https://drive.google.com/open?id=1a2WOkksFAqwdQCrIK1Eg4WnxIaMH1AKy
TA https://drive.google.com/open?id=1m3GDd-dy-GttsNZfDSI_a_NGc44EC_2N
>You'll need both to hook and translate the game.
>Start up ITH first and then TA. Then start up the visual novel. In ITH look for the game's exe and accept it. The in-game text (Japanese) should show up after clicking on the game itself to progress the text, and if it doesn't then open the little bar on ITH and scroll down until the text appears legible. In TA you'll want to choose Google for the translator and keep connected to the internet to work.
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No.311848
KTJK2 new cgs have appeared on the web page:
http://www.bishop.jp/products/ktjk2/cg.html
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No.311938
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No.312046
Blondey is calling the cock ochinpo-sama.
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No.312126
Now that is an ass that needs to be made love to
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No.312143
>>312046
>ochinpo-sama
>Master Dick
That's hilarious. She's gonna be even more fun than I thought.
>>312126
Kinda funny the new protag is into anal. Maybe it's because of the humiliation concept but I can get into that with girls like these.
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No.312990
>>238987
Like that other anon a fantasy setting. BISHOP is great at clothes but they have already wasted it a lot in yet again more maid/bunny/whetever wardrobe they use.
Talking of Akagi Rio, if you like him next month a Miel game with art by him will be released so keep an eye out.
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No.313001
>>312990
Good eye anon. Man look at that hair. This guy is phenomenal at dynamic hair.
Also body shape and poses but that hair is really eye catching.
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No.313018
>HUGE Mifuyu fave
>Yuna was fun, other girls pretty good
>finally go for Aina since anons keep saying she's Bishop's greatest hyper slut
>cute moans
>hyperest of sluts
<but also absolute pure
<also an extreme romantic, keeps making the intense sex cute
<hugs
<first kissu
<dutiful mother
<loving woman
<keeps calling him "Darling ♥️"
I WAS NOT PREPARED
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No.313024
>>313018
Too slutty for me, she was already broken the first H-scene after she was raped.
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No.313082
>>269056
Yuzuki (Blonde) gets fucked by a dog and then MC fucks her (The retraining tennis scene) and Blue hair girl gets her nipples sucked by a pair of octopus.
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No.313396
>>313082
>gets fucked by a dog and then MC fucks her
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No.313403
>>313396
I found it funny that in her scene where other guys fap to her a dude wants to fuck her vagina but MC tells him off saying its for him but then a dog getting a go is fine.
But really blondes were usually the ones getting shared all the time (A shame that Makino was the one shared in UK, would had prefered they stuck with the blonde tradition).
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No.313447
>>313018
I don't like that she starts only calling the protagonist darling and acting this much like a wife/girlfriend.
I prefer Yuuna in that aspect, she still got the doting wife side but she never forgets what she really is and her true nature as a slave takes over during sex. One key difference in the mood is that Aina wants to give Ryou more children, Yuuna wants to be a pregnant sex slave again.
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No.313502
How to use the translators pls guide
>>311840
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No.313774
I checked out Kusujoku 2 Amazon page, here are a few new images.
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No.313797
>>313774
Well …
Rikka seems to have been already broken, so its probably one of the 'later' cgs.
Noeru having sex at the same time as having a Internet / video chat or something similar to it, is a pretty nice idea
Miori I'm wondering if that is a nurse or maid outfit, hard to say from just the head wear , but still it isn't a bad outfit
Manami forcing a mature women to wear a gym outfit that seems to be designed for a student is … I have to say … a super effective move
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No.313812
>>310099
not gonna lie, the "brain seizure" levels of pleasure that could possibly kill 'face' is my preferred one.
But maybe because I also like over-the-top pleasure type stuff.
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No.313889
>>313812
Same. I don't symphatize at all with these "but not too Ahegao" posts.
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No.314152
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No.314388
>>314152
Meh, he would surely pick 1 or 2 and i dont care for them.
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No.314442
The new bishop girls are fucking garbage.
Cant the guy make normal fucking girls to fuck not some wannabe cosplayers.
I can google simple doujins and find it more attractive.
Kazuhiro and black package artists are a good example of this
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No.314451
>>314442
Here notable examples
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No.314518
>>314442
What are you even talking about. I assume you mean the clothes?
If so I don't know what you mean by "new bishop girls" as the protagonist making the girls wear erotic costumes has been a thing in most of their older titles too.
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No.314521
>>314518
No I mean that the bishop girls, now look like garbage.
Older girls in the series feel like there was some thought behind them, these new ones are just some cheap cop outs of the old ones as the artists lost all creative control.
Just go back to the basics man
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No.314527
>>314521
I'm sorry but I still don't get exactly what you mean. This second post poses a completely different point than the previous one either.
But what make the older designs having "some thought behind them" while the new ones are "cheap cop outs of the old ones?"
It's like you're saying they are recyclint the designs, which I don't really deny either, Bishop has always heavily recycled character archetypes and visuals. But then, if they are recycled, what would a back to bases even be?
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No.314530
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No.314577
No one mentioned the fact that on 09.02 there has been an update on KTJK2's feature page:
http://www.bishop.gr.jp/products/ktjk2/feature.html
Well, it's an update about the dress system, but still it gives some hints about what kind of outfits / underwear some of the heroines are going to have
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No.314643
>>314451
The only good looking one are the blue haired girls.
>>314527
Im like 80% sure his comment is in some way related to kagami.
Though i will say that the schoolgirls havent been usually of my liking lately. I love the previous game designs (Barring pink who is far too similar in each installment if she is drawn by Oonari and Loli wasnt that cute but her scenes were good.) but im not feeling this ones.
The same happened with Houkago 3 but Miho, Suzuno and Hitomi made up for the shortcomings of the other 2 (Even though yet again the loli wasnt of my liking but the scenes made up for it).
I would personally love Mochizuki Nozomu for a teacher's game, he does pretty hot (For me) adults.
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No.314677
>>314643
>Miho, Suzuno and Hitomi made up for the shortcomings of the other 2
Huh. While I like these 3, the highlight of Houkago 3 to me was easily Shizuka.
I agree about the designs for this new game looking a bit uninspired. I really like the redhead, precisely because she looks differnt from other heroines we had recently, but that's it really as far as design goes. Teacher is growing on me from the previews I've seen, but unlike most Bishop games where I'm on board from the start with the designs in this one I'm hoping the scenes and voice acting sway me instead.
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No.315269
Another update to KTJK2 features page has occurred:
http://www.bishop.gr.jp/products/ktjk2/feature.html
Some more music samples + outfit examples - apart from Sayuki and Manami, there are the outfits the girls are going to wear during their pregnant period
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No.315270
>>315269
And here are some of the costumes.
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No.315273
>>315269
I can get how you didn't notice it, but look again at Sayuki's schoolgirl outfit and Manami's first swimsuit. Particularly the belly
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No.315296
>>315269
If anyone is interested, there is also an image of the girls panties change during their training.
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No.315299
>>315270
Really wish they could get creative with the clothes design, wish there was something similar to what Miel does were the heroines usually wear more revealing clothes of their base clothes. I guess its easier on Miel since the MC usually conquers the whole setting so he can change the dress code but would be nice to have the variations to at least the costume change feature or maybe something more discreet but still noticeable for the MC. Like i see the last pregnant tachie of white haired girl or the teacher and they arent really erotic at all.
>>315296
I wonder if tere are really that many people who fetishizes panties enough to care for this, i mean would had prefered if they used erotic lingerie at least.
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No.315333
>>315269
Liking Jazz over Normal BGM this time around. Reminds me of Ura Kyoushi and TJ3, slightly.
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No.315337
>>315270
I'm liking that Oonari brought back this get up with Sayuki. It's quite neat to see how he's changed it around a bit too. Shading is improved quite a bit, and the hem of the top over the swimsuit doesn't hug the breasts in a perfect mold, rather draping over instead. Though I find it particularly intriguing that he both has tops tent over the breasts like with Rikka's 2nd and 4th outfit and Sayuki's 2nd from that tachie spread like #3 from pic related, and also still has some clothes that shape under the breasts like #2 from pic related. The lingerie looks solid from him like usual. The guy's loves his lacy and frilly outfits in general, so I wouldn't expect less from that department.
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No.315339
>>315337
That top really does hug her tits hard, too.
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No.315359
>>313403
Yeah, Saori deserved it more anyway, considering she was trying to backstab the MC in that game. Makino was just a hindrance to him. Then again, the MC seemed to have a bias for teenage girls, so maybe it's just that.
Hopefully, quof will translate UK someday and we'll know for certain.
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No.315454
>>315270
Really digging the outfits for everyone but the main girl.
>>315299
Yeah, it's sad pretty much no one but Miel does this kind of thing.
I only see lewd versions of clothes when it's a magical girl or sentai heroine game, as far as I recall, not this kind of perversion of their casual wear.
There are certainly ways to make it more discreet so it would work in a Bishop game (or similar settings), like pic related, or making use of the underwear for once and having the girls wear increasingly lewd ones.
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No.315564
I'll admit, I wasn't enthusiastic about this new game at all at first sight, but now I'm getting excited. Looks pretty nice, at least.
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No.315578
Well, from the looks of it … KTJK2 won't have the choices to decide where to cum … since they would have already mentioned it in the features page…
Maybe that kind of option is unpopular in Bishop's japanese customer base … since if I'm not mistaken non of the recently released Bishop games had that option…
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No.315607
>>315578
You sure? Because their previous game has pregnant and non-pregnant endings so i assume you get such choice.
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No.315614
>>315607
From the features page, translated using google translate:
"◇ Pregnant redemption Ultimate
Reuse the composition of the training scene generated before the heroine falls, reborn as another training scene after falling BISHOP familiar retraining system!
In this work, after falling the prey to despair and the abyss of carnal descent, it is possible to occur a reborn rush full of heavily loaded full-length children for pregnancy! Ultimate reaction explodes explosively and extremely crazy more than when training before the fall depicts the brilliant Iki who is finished being seeded!"
So based on that, pregnancy ending choice is something that occurs after the heroines training is finished … which means, it's probably going to be similar to how KTJK's ending choice was done…
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No.315683
Noeru's new food play picture has appeared
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No.315753
>>315614
It's going down the same path KTJK 1 did where, if you want to make the heroines pregnant, you have to do all the previous training redux scenes. So you can still get a non-pregnant ending (just don't set off the pregnant ending flag), and the pregnant ending has more interaction between the heroine and the protagonist since the protagonist will likely full on mention to her that he fully plans on making her pregnant, and they're going to having tons of baby-making sex until they are, and that will get all sorts of responses. It is kind of like, in previous titles, where the heroines would approach the protagonist and tell them they're pregnant, but with a bit more of a set up for that scene.
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No.315759
>>315753
It is kind of their way of incorporating a bonus mini-arc into the routes. The main one involving breaking the girl, and then, to go further beyond that, to impregnate them. With a beginning ('We're gonna have a child, [Name goes here]') and a climax ('I-I'm pregnant, Master. *sobs*'), then a finale (Pregnant Ending + Cue protagonist and Heroine drunk on breeding) that follows suit.
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No.316206
>>315270
What's written on the teacher's belly ?
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No.316209
>>316206
The last two lines is something like "Master's exclusive pussy". I can't make out the rest in it's entirety. The second line says "bitch slave" (mesu dorei), but I don't know the rest.
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No.316210
>>282910
>>282923
If you're still around, do any of these sketches have a finished version in the book? If so, can we get a picture?
I mean the three besides the one with the two oyakodon pairs, that one's finished version is in the scans, and I'm asking about the others because of that.
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No.316260
>>315270
Miori is definitely the best looking to me. She got the best figure, and also the best clothes (maid, bunny and naked apron. The last two are my biggest weaknesses). Saxasa, the artist who did her, seems to also be relatively new. Doing eroge since 2012 and most of the time being a side artist in a larger group. From the previous this seems to be their best work so far, which I hope means he'll get work with Bishop again or at least employ a similar style to what he uses in this game. I hope his actual CG are also good, and not just the character design though.
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No.316302
>>316210
Ah~ Kagami. If only gacha didn't exist
Who's the pierced prison guard on the bottom left? And man any pic of Touko is great
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No.316377
>>316302
I think it's supposed to be Naomi from Mesu Kyoushi 2.
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No.316558
>>307628
I have to ask…what is with that gym uniform? I can understand the bloomers since they actually did that (though nowadays it only occurs in anime and not real-life), but do gym uniforms also included midriff bearing tops?
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No.316709
First count down video for KTJK2 is out:on the main Bishop page.
Basically it starts with Manami introducing herself to the protagonist and belittle him a little bit, after which he used his ability to make her undress herself and appear naked before him
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No.317152
10 day left to release video link
https://video.fc2.com/a/content/201902181UkQ2ETs
9 days left to release video link:
http://video.fc2.com/a/content/20190219kBLvsWsR/&tk=TmpjeE9EYzBNakU9
Rikka's is slightly amusing … she tried to play that she willingly let herself get naked after the protagonist used his ability on her … before showing near the end that she is really discontented with this situation - I hope that it indicates how her 'training' is going to proceed
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No.317356
>>317152
>that spoiler
I really want to see more of Rikka now and hope that is actually a sample of how her route will play out too. It would be an interesting take and something more than "uguu I'm gonna get sexed again".
Plus she's a fun villainess whose jackassery brought out the monster. It's like a horror film situation with a dumb teenager bringing forth the curse of a serial killer, only instead of killing it's hentai
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No.317365
>>317356
Plus she's blonde too! A big tittied-bitchy-blonde is the cause of all this…it really is like a horror movie. (Well there's Sakuya, but she's like the innocent girl who was just in the wrong place in the wrong time)
Nevertheless, Rikka's fate is way better then horror girls, and being able to live a long life as a happy slave is a good one (At least, in the Bishop world it is)
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No.317535
>>317365
>At least, in the Bishop world it is
Nah also in reality. A good Bishop protag offers everything a woman would want–security, affection, protection, intimacy and screaming orgasms that corrupt their brains in willing servitude
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No.317538
>>317365
also
>A big tittied-bitchy-blonde is the cause of all this…it really is like a horror movie
I'd piss myself if, right before cumming, KTJK2's protag makes witty one-liners like Freddy
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No.317605
Well 8 day remaining counter video is out and this time it's Miori's turn:
http://video.fc2.com/a/content/20190220eYL20mnv/&tk=TmpjeE9EYzBNakU9
And I must be a little too slow to realize it, but doesn't she have a pretty big breasts, comparable to the ones that Kazuha from KK had - which makes me wonder if she is also going to give milk like Kazuha did …
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No.317615
>>317605
Well they both have 92 cm breast so yeah
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No.317771
>>317605
>>317615
If she had lactation I think it would have been brought up already.
Still, it's not only the huge tits she has in common with Kazuha, the figure as well. She's got big hips and ass too, a killer hourglass figure. Miori's three sizes are 92-59-91, while Kazuha's were 92-62-90. She's also slightly taller.
I'm not familiar with the artist who's doing her, so I hope he can deliver on that. Kazuha had several scenes that really drew attention to her curves even with her breast focus like >>270501 >>269529
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No.317785
>>317605
Hearing Miria's VA in another BISHOP game make me diamond.
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No.317999
7 days remaining counter video:
http://video.fc2.com/a/content/20190221uAGHHZ9a/&tk=TmpjeE9EYzBNakU9
Well , if Noeru is going to continue that shy character type during and after her training then her route might be quite original - she is also quite stacked, considering her build type
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No.318018
>>317999
Oh sweet god she is just so cute!
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No.318061
>>314442
>The new bishop girls are fucking garbage.
Rikka, Noeru and Manami are good, Rikka and Noeru being best. You got problems anon
>black package
Yeah because you're comparing it to the excruciating shading detail of Nao Kokonoki who is incapable of doing a proper game with more than three CG variants per scene. Amano Ameno is also really good sometimes and Junya Kaneta is practically absent last I checked. Otherwise BPT offers nothing but pic related teir trash.
As for these examples >>314451
Kokonoki aside, every single one of these girls are less detailed and less bodily interesting than every girl in KTJK2. Every single one. Fourth and first pics especially.
Akagi Rio and Oonari did great. I like Manami's artist too but eh I can see a leave-or-take-it vibe.
If you're gonna compare, compare with previous BISHOP titles (though not with Kagami Prime because that's unfair. No one beats Kagami Prime).
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No.318194
>>318061
>No one beats Kagami Prime
Not even current Kagami, judging by TA0 and what little I've seen from Lilith's gachashit.
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No.318237
Strange to read here about peak Kagami here when to me Maki is the most beautiful Kagami girl.
Too bad that peak Kagami for the most part means having to like his old games (Which i dont).
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No.318291
>>318237
>having to like
MK4 was my first Bishop and Maki was my first slavefu anon. I also think she's one of the best because of that pov fishnet scene and her ending with her being married and on her second child with the protag.
However there is a noticable dip in quality compared to older Kagami works, anon, at least to most eyes. Mifuyu beats Maki's design by miles to me, though I'm extra partial to MK3 Yoshii as Best Expy
I do like Maki and Yoshii's big eyes, though.
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No.318293
>>318291
>posted chibi instead of proper CG
I'm an ass
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No.318316
>>318237
I don't "have to like" the old games because of how good the Kagami art is, I like them to begin with.
Also when most people are talking about peak Kagami they're talking about Kyouiku Shido, Sansha Mendan, Ura Kyoushi and MK3 (and outside of Bishop, games like Kangoku Senkan 2 and 3, Ochiru Hitozuma and Taimanin Asagi 3).
In fact, as much as I love Maki's design, some of her scenes were the first pieces of Kagami art I thought looked off, with weird proportions. Her bloomers scene in particular is rpetty weird. But MK4 is still overall pretty good for his art, it's some time after that it really started to dip in quality.
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No.318339
6 day counter video:
http://video.fc2.com/a/content/20190222wEx2cbwZ/&tk=TmpjeE9EYzBNakU9
Well … considering that Sayuki is already aware of the protagonists ability ( unlike the previous heroines ) + her attitude toward the protagonist I would say that her route might be pretty amusing - not to mention the fact that the protagonist forced her to go to a hotel with him
On another piece of information KTJK2 manual page has also been released:
http://www.bishop.gr.jp/products/ktjk2/manual/index.html
Well … from the appearance of the protagonists face, at the end of this manual … he looks quite young so I wonder how old he was when his memory has been rewritten
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No.318487
>>318339
I'll always prefer my eyeless protags with scruffy hair kind of like P5's Joker.
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No.318496
>>318339
If I had to take a guess, he was probably late high school age when it happened, back when Sayuki was just a little girl. After losing his memories he remembered wanting to be a teacher. He got his license and got into school. He's probably early to mid twenties (Miori herself said he was the youngest male teacher at the school)
Considering the SNK girls ranged from 22-25, I'm guessing that where he and Manami fits.
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No.318551
>>318339
>he looks quite young
DUDE I AM TELLING YOU
He was definitely going to be KTJK's protag before fan feedback said carrot juice sucks. The entire premise of the "caught, brainwashed and remembering who he was) thing just fits too perfectly with the Bad End of KTJK to be coincidence–before rewriting.
>>318487
Same. But I can dig this guy's head alright enough. At least it's not squished.
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No.318552
>>318496
>Considering the SNK girls ranged from 22-25, I'm guessing that where he and Manami fits.
>tfw I suddenly remember my actual age
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No.318599
5 day countdown video:
http://video.fc2.com/a/content/201902230m5aBPsw/&tk=TmpjeE9EYzBNakU9
Well … I have to say that Manami has quite a nice ass to play with
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No.318603
A picture of Miori has appeared as well
The question is … does Miori grabbing her breasts like that imply that something is going to get out of them… because if it's not the case, it's pretty suggestive toward that outcome
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No.318656
Miori is so fucking hot. Can't wait to turn her into my pregnant bitchslave.
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No.318667
Looks like a breast cancer check to me.
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No.318697
>>318603
Easily the best one so far. He's gotten a lot better with these
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No.318707
4 day countdown video:
http://video.fc2.com/a/content/20190224kh2fne4e/&tk=TmpjeE9EYzBNakU9
I wonder if Rikka is tasted before or after she lost her virginity
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No.318757
>>318599
Well given the demo has the MC constantly complimenting her huge ass, I'm guessing it's getting a lot of focus in her route
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No.319255
>>318707
I was wrong about the template pubis it seems. That's some detailed pubes from Oonari
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No.319505
3 day countdown video:
http://video.fc2.com/a/content/20190225VyRdeJvq/&tk=TmpjeE9EYzBNakU9
Miori don''t worry, soon you will definitely get used to that taste
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No.319776
Sansha mendan anime preview are out. Cannot say much since it is poro petit
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No.319798
>>319776
Could only find a few pictures on Getchu? Is there a video preview already?
Anyway, the character design doesn't look as bad as MK4 and KNK, they look like themselves already, though the quality dip in scenes with more movement is obvious already.
Also from the preview text and the images it seems this focuses entirely on the beginning of the Hagiura's route. I imagine if an episode 2 (possibly even 3) will come to follow up on that, or if they just don't give a shit and will move on to another girl next.
Either way, this probably will bring more attention to Sansha Mendan. Lots of people saw MK4 anime, apparently, and either have no idea the game exists or don't care because it's in Japanese. SM has a translation and it will hopefully come up when people are searching the anime up.
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No.319799
BugBug tweeted a preview of Kutsujoku 2, highlighting the "fall to pleasure" aspect that was mostly absent from the first game.
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No.319803
>>319798
only pic apparently. Was hoping the PV but no PV.
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No.319820
2 day left video countdown:
http://video.fc2.com/a/content/20190226y3JPRszb/&tk=TmpjeE9EYzBNakU9
Sigh … if it wasn't for the white censorship … Noeru's forced masturbation scene would be quite effective - but, it definitely has risen my desire to actually play KTJK2
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No.319821
>>319798
Actually slightly better than I expected from PoRo. Though Ryou could look a bit better. He looks more of an oaf than a punk in still image #4. Give him a better smirk, even.
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No.319822
>>319799
I don't know why it is, but I find Sayuki's breasts to be so much more sexier than Rikka's.
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No.320085
>>319798
>or if they just don't give a shit and will move on to another girl next.
PoRO normally does this. They have a very bad habit at both never showing actual mindbreak, keeping scenes incomplete (like in their adaptation of Nerawareta which ends with the girl being fucked but no climax), and they almost never fully adapt entire routes either.
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No.320214
1 day left countdown video:
http://video.fc2.com/a/content/20190227mW0aKSLq/&tk=TmpjeE9EYzBNakU9
I wonder how long Sayuki's attitude is going to last in the game
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No.320440
>>320214
Isnt already out in japan?
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No.320529
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