/girltalk/ - Girl Talk

>>17652

>my deepest engagements are anonymous

Anonymous ibs are safe. Nobody knows you and you can disappear after you've said something. Even though it's anonymous you do receive some benefits of having a human connection which is better than nothing.

>I struggle to find anyone like me at all even on the internet

What characteristics of yourself are you looking for in this other person?

>>17653

Yes I was there. And i suppose there's more people on here than I thought but not really any girls. I am actually pretty new to 8chan and no I did not come from 4 chan.

>>17682

where did you come from?

>>17686

I guess you could say I came from the real world. The last year and a half have been horrible for me but the last 5 months have been the worst and I stopped going out when it wasn't necessary. I eventually found out about this place while researching things online.

>>17690

what happened?

>>17690

do you want to talk on discord? mine is [EDITED: SEE RULE #6]

>>17691

>>17692

Oh thank you but I don't have a discord :/

>>17690

>I guess you could say I came from the real world

same here tbh. i was a normie for so long. i found 4chan first, but i keep collecting permabans from there so this be my refuge, my outlet

>>17699

you could make one, is there anything you would talk on?

>>17703

I don't know if I'm read to lose the ability anonymity yet.. Also the circumstances surrounding why I am at this low point I kind of don't want to talk about because it might make me recognisable to someone that knows me…

>>17704

Okay thanks… I still don't think I want to post that level of personal info though

>>17700

I wouldn't describe myself as a "normalfag" as people on here call it but I live like one but I've had interests that "normalfags" don't have so I can see the intrigue in this place and also I am huge on internet privacy so the anonymity is an alluring feature to this website. And I'm not autistic I am just depressed as fuck atm.

What'd you get permabanned?

>>17703

Also I saw a thread saying discord isn't secure and the record all your conversations…

>>17705

>it might make me recognisable to someone that knows me…

You're making me paranoid with that.

>>17711

Huh? I don't understand why it would make you paranoid. If you choose to detail an event in your life over a public forum, regardless if it is anonymous, if someone involved in the event(s) were to read it they would be able to indentify you.

>>17705

>>17706

>>17704

Yeah I simply offered because I've enjoyed talking to this person and I would like to talk about more personal things with them.

>>17714

She's clearly not up for it, be less aggressive.

>>17713

I've only been on this website 3 weeks and have only spent minimal time on this page and I have never been on other image boars forums so no, you don't know me.

>>17714

Is this still Tristan? Your ID number changed. And just so you know I don't feel you're being aggressive. Like I mentioned I am new to 8 chan and there's a lot of people on here (8 chan not this forum) that are clearly not the type of people you want to give your personal details to

>>17717

8 chan not this board*

/girltalk/ seems to be the cleanest board here

>>17716

>I've only been on this website 3 weeks and have only spent minimal time on this page

Just like the woman I'm thinking of.

She also happens to have a very peculiar name.

By the way you don't have to make individual replies to everyone, you can simply click on the number of a post to do another quote, like this.

>>17714

>>17717

it is I was just on phone, I didn't even realize there were id numbers, but yeah, if you want to talk you can on that discord or email me at [RULE 6]

>>17719

I really am not sure what you're speaking about haha. I haven't mentioned my name anywhere and also nobody I know is aware I use this site. Are you thinking of a friend or acquaintance of yours?

(thanks for the tip, I knew just didn't apply)

>>17720

Sorry I didn't catch your email. I have your discord written down though. Do you want to continue talking about other stuff on here and then maybe once we know eachother a bit more we could go to /soc/ and you can give me your email there?

>>17721

It's simply too fishy. Even the way you speak

>>17721

Sure

>>17721

I play classical guitar

You can listen here if you'd like

https://m.soundcloud.com/dont-read-this-814362960

>>17722

No, I promise it does not start with a [edited]

>>17725

Thank you for putting my mind at rest.

I edited the info out for politeness sake.

>>17724

I've listened to a few of your songs and you're actually really good! I like classical music, modern pop culture music doesn't have much appeal to me.

I've attempted to play guitar a few times in my life. I got an electric guitar when I was 13 and a few years ago my friend gave me his acoustic but I have small hands and struggle to play all the cords.. It's fun though and I wish I could do what you do.

I play the flute currently. I played in high school then stopped. I picked it up again last year but because of how things have been I haven't played as often as I'd like.

If I pick up another instrument it will probably be the violin.

>>17726

No worries. Thanks :)

>>17709

>What'd you get permabanned?

i like anorexic girls, and when i post pics of them some mods spaz out and think i'm posting jailbait nudes. it's happened more than once so it's rather annoying.

>>17727

Music helps me a lot, I don't get to play as much as I like with work but I'm already really down stuck in my head all the time and it's one of the only healthy outlets I have. I love flute and violin

>>17749

Whoops, meant for >>17746

>>17747

My job is thereputic but that's not good because it's awful and I need to make a lot more lol, I'd like to hike and camp but it's not possible with work schedule and income

I went ahead and made a thread >>>/soc/2140

>>17751

Okay I saw it.

Idk if you want to continue here or there so I'll wait.

>>17755

>but do you also like how light-weight they are?

i've never really thought about that aspect directly, but i suppose it comes with a few benefits on the side.

>Easier to pick-up and hold and whatnot.

i really do like the small framed girls. when i pull a girl close and wrap my arms all the way around her, in effect "hugging myself" it's just awesome.

>contrast appeal

could be. i never thought of it along those lines.

>>17763

lol, how do I keep fucking this up? Meant for >>17756

>>17760

>when i pull a girl close and wrap my arms all the way around her, in effect "hugging myself" it's just awesome.

This one I can understand in reverse, larger guys can give you blanket hugs which is cosy.

>could be. i never thought of it along those lines.

Attraction isn't typically something you overanalyze, unless you're me who basically has thinking as a hobby haha. I had in mind the contrast you see rather often with those really skinny guys with massive women. I'm sure something similar to contrast appeal exists but it's best to take psychoanalysis with a grain of salt. Especially nowadays when the field of psychology is almost a joke.

>>17768

>has thinking as a hobby

oh i do that too, but i call it a curse, really. i get lost in my own mind sometimes.

anyway, good chat. thanks for the (you)'s

>>17794

You're welcome!

>>17769

Wow, you have quite a lot Russian friends, how do you know them all? I'm from St. Petersburg myself.

That's an interesting perspective, generally you're probably right, but those guys might be a lot less common in young (-30 years old) generations, which kinda sucks. The guys my age (25) are really unpredictable, though I'm proud of our girls lol.

Our accents are so cringy! God bless you for tolerating them.

>>17806

>how do you know them all?

I met a lot of them in a language exchange group, and then I have a friend that moved to Canada with his mother 10 years ago, and then I've worked with some who immigrated here.

>That's an interesting perspective

I forgot to add that I noticed this was true for Russian men who have travelled, the article I read pointed it out which was what made me realize it was the case for the people I met.

And I'm not completely romanticizing "the Russian man" I know that it's not true for all of them. The friend here told me how he knows about someone in Russia who bet his wife in a poker game and lost.

>though I'm proud of our girls

I'm glad you are, I had a friend complain they are stuck up but I've always seen them as strong willed.

>God bless you for tolerating them.

It's hardly tolerating them. Listening to my friends practice their English with me was a treat haha.

>>17746

>I do have a thing for Russians haha.

Im curious, why?

>>17769

>>17809

(I should have read the thread before asking)

>>17888

>>17889

Haha, no worries. I've done that too.

How's it hanging, """women""" of 8ch?

>>17939

I'm sorry but the fact of the matter is that in this place, the chance of a "woman" actually being a mentally ill man are much much higher than a woman actually being a woman. You know that.

Although you're right in that joking about is rather stale, so in that sense you get a genuine "Sorry" from me. I just posted here because I saw it pop up in the random board list on top and I remembered warning the original BO about trannies trying to infiltrate a genuinely female space. They just can't help themselves. I'm sure you know that too.

>>17942

That's ok, if they get obnoxious i'll take action.

I'm not against transgenders, but i'm not going to let them do whatever they want.

Show us ya fucking tits

>>16345

Someone being overweight/unattractive to you is a legitimate reason to not be in a relationship with them.

To assume that all he cares about is looks because one of the things he cares about is looks is flawed.

Not to mention that being overweight is bad for health, bad for conceiving, giving birth, and then raising children, and shows lack of self control/self respect

>>16309

Ive always had a preference for older men, and my to-be-husband is 11 years older than me.

A lot of women are like this.

You absolutely have a chance with younger women, some might say youre better off than before because a lot of women specifically find older men attractive.

>>18087

You're right, but does it seem creepy to younger women if I'm in my mid-20s and they are in their late teens (18+)? I get that a lot of girls have a thing for older guys, but am I pushing it for girls this young?

>>18089

Not at all. Girls even younger than 18 will be into you.

>>18093

Neat.

>>18100

Try not to have a child too late into your life, though, or else potato.

>>18214

That is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever read on this board.

>>18214

No. You'd just get the wrong kind anyway.

>>18234

>Do you think the unabashed hypergamy of the modern era is a problem?

What did you mean by this? At what point in history have people not tried to marry up?

>>18292

The problem being what's considered "up" by most men has kind of been flip-turned upside down.

pls be ai gf

>there's such a surplus of males here we have to have a thread for this

/girltalk is a larp isn't it

>>18353

it's enough of a larp that i only check this board once a month.

This could tremendously backfire, but I came to this board once for advice a long time ago, and you helped, and then I kept checking back in with my own advice and it was always well received, and to be honest I'm in a pit of misery right now and turning anywhere for even the tiniest ray of light. Now, what I am going to discuss concerns an active court case so details will necessarily be changed and others left vague while the entire story made hypothetical to insulate myself in the smallest of ways.

Hypothetically, I'm a guy in my early 30's who has broken wing syndrome among other things. I've dated plenty, but I specifically fall insanely in love with girls who are both troubled and I believe I can help. Six years on and off with a girl who had a brain tumor. Once it was fixed she became abusive and we drifted apart. Two years with a girl with Borderline. In contrast I once briefly dated a girl with bi-polar who I was extremely physically attracted to but she was emotionally closed off to me and had issues I didn't feel I could help so the attraction never turned into anything more and I stopped trying with her. I always go into a relationship with a hope for marriage. I always just want someone I won't have to worry about leaving me, and in part that's what lead me into this hypothetical situation. I'm gonna break this into several posts.

>>18360

So hypothetically, the borderline ex before we split got me into a strange fetish, and to get over her I entangked myself in communities associated with it. The fetish in short was kidnapping. Surprise surprise, most I spoke too were too… Unstable to pursue anything with. Too young, too violent, too immature. Let's say though one day I met a girl. She was different from any girl I'd ever dated, physically practically the exact opposite. However her personality combined with her looks made me fall head over heels in love with her, and over the course of roughly a year we plotted to do something risky and attention-grabbing.

See, I made a thread about her here once, early into it. She was ftm but talking to me, me complimenting her on how feminine and pretty she was, it was all the nudge she needed to want to go back to being a girl. I was helping her, saving her. Remember where I met her though. See, there were two problems. The trans thing was a tumblr inspired teen phase that embarrassed her. She hated the side effects of the testosterone shots and wanted a clean break without having to admit it was a phase to everyone who had accepted it. Namely her mom who was now forcing her to take the shots.

So, initially she said she was 19 but quickly aged up to 20, but in reality she was 17. When I found out I thought i'd have to stop talking to her, but looked into the laws, saw that was legal and continued to persue her. We talked every day practically all day. And on occasion that may have involved use of webcams and microphones. Then I made significant changes in my life, and gathered the resources needed to make our plan real and drive across the country to bring her with me. You see where this takes a dramatic turn.

>>18361

Now, in this hypothetical situation we didn't think it would be that big of a deal. Girls move out of their parents houses without making a big deal of it all the time. I wasn't trying to hide it, first thing I did when we got home was take her out to eat and meet my mom. We were discussing wedding plans and I was helping her find a job.

A few days later though I was arrested, and never having been in trouble before I did everything wrong and gave them everything. I'll spare you the details of the hell that followed, but the briefest way to summarize is I got extradited across the country like a child molester, she got put in a nuthouse and instead of anything rational our pets were sent to a shelter where her cat was given away and my dog was put to sleep on my birthday while I rotted in a cell.

Now, the sex was legal. That's the most fucked up thing about all this, had I driven up, slept with her and left no crime would have been committed. They can't get me for kidnapping either because she planned it, but they found 17 other things to charge me with, mostly related to skype videos, all felonies. Enough that on one hand I could get life and on the other life registered as a sex offender.

But the thing is… All I care about is whether or not I still have a future with her. Whether or not when this is over she'll still want to marry me. Maybe I'm insane, but I can't go anywhere else to ask. My family hates her and despises the relationship and what it's cost us all. My attorney got pissed at me when I asked her what the likely outcome there might be. I even reached out to two exes I was on good terms with. One said she would, the other said she couldn't say, they were both pissed I didn't go get them instead. Which shocked me because one of them I eas like "you live on a different continent now…" and the other I was like "you cheated on me with two dudes, remember?"

So through all this I'm not allowed to talk to her. Even if I was she's being held in some nut house probably being told by her family and counselers I'm some horrible monster. I sit here and… Write songs about her, when I wss in cells i'd scratch stuff about her into the walls. I bought an engagement ring with special signicance to us and wrote vows just in case I get the chance to give them to her. If you were in her shoes, when all of this is over… Do you think she'll still want what we had? I've been told all the negative possibilities. "Maybe she planned this" "maybr it was all about attention" "you could have just been a fantasy she's done with" but my feelings have remained the same all throughout. The week we were together contains my happiest memories of any relationship i've ever been in. She had issues sure, but she was so sweet and delicate and beautiful and pure. We never fought, she was such a breath of fresh air from every girl I'd ever dated.

>>18360

>>18361

>>18362

And that's my *legally fictional, totally hypothetical, may or may not have happened, but very heart-felt, raw and exposed story.

Advice?

>>18361

>she was 17.

>drive across the country

you fucked up, anon. individual states have their own ages of consent, but you crossed state lines to make this happen. in doing so, the legality defaults to the federal mandate of 18 years of age. im not a lawyer, but i know you need a lawyer. you're fucked.

>>18386

I'm aware and legal counsel has been retained, all court provisions are being followed, etc. That's not what I'm asking though. I'm looking for hope, frankly. I don't want to lose her. I'm asking from a female perspective, given what you know about the relationship -and I'll answer morr questions where that is concerned- in her situation, would your feelings change or diminish? Unable to talk to the guy you ran away with for months, likely being told negative thjngs about him by everyone, possibly surrounded by other potential mates, when you're finally able to communicate again would you want to? Would you still feel the same way towards him?

>>18403

All thingssss change. If you need to sssstruggle to retain ssssomeone, it meansss that your relationsssship hasss come to an end and you ought to move.

People are exssssspendable, they come and go. And go they will sssssooner than you think.

>>18415

…Satan?

>>18419

Jusssst the voice of reasssson.

>>18422

Well that's not a no.

>>18425

Well, adding a name also adds a context. I would prefer not to have one.

The point still stands, if he needs to actively pursue a fading relationship, it is already too late and the only thing why he does that is the sacrificed costs effect.

>>18427

It's not a fading relationship but a forced separation neither desired. Think Romeo & Juliet, except Romeo is on trial and Juliet is in a nuthouse being told to despise him.

82 days no contact. 40 days until her 18th birthday. No way of telling when he can legally contact her again. Depression magnifying by the day.

>>18428

Ouch. But I would still lean for ending it and starting anew. My primary argument would be the relatively low age and perspectives for a satisfactory conclusion of the current situation.

But then again, I'm a very practical person.

>>18429

Love is not practical, you're thinking in emotionally detached terms. You don't give up on someone you're truly in love with because the situation is hard. That's like opting to put the beloves family dog to sleep because it's vet bills are expensive despite them keeping it happy and in perfect health. And the parent that makes that decision is the one the kids grow up to despise.

>>18430

In the end it's not about "giving up", but choosing the option which causes them either least pain, or most pleasure. If you cling to love as you say, then not only you lack self control, but also mistake love for possession, or a security measure against loneliness. If there are circumstances which would not only prevent love from being fullfilled, but also would cause considerable pain to the other lover, it is then our duty to abandon such a relationship and have our loved one seek happiness elsewhere.

>>18432

This whole time you've specifically avoided my actual question to instead bizarrely insist I give up. I'm not going to, please drop it.

>3d women

>respectable

Pick one

>>18433

Oh no, I've actually provided you with an answer and reasoning which you did not accept. You've asked what to do and I've suggested that you terminate the relationship due to lack of perspectives. Looks like you did not need an answer, but justification for what you're about to do. I won't give you the satisfaction.

But fair enough, I'll stop.

>>18435

A woman is that which is not a man.

I guess the main attribute of feminity would be the ability to field strip an AK rifle.

>>18436

>what should I major in? I'm thinking stem field…

>school is hard, drop out lol

>that doesn't answer my question at all…

>does too you just don't like the answer lull

>>18439

There is no fallacy here. Imagine the train dillema, when you have to choose if it hits one person or four. You can either switch the tracks to kill one person, switch them to kill four, or not choose anything at all and just walk away.

Wu wei is also a choice.

>>18478

>but I think I'm *able to socialize properly in limited amounts.

Sorry for the upside down pic. I guess universe punished me for phoneposting

>>18478

>>18479

Don't whore yourself out, you retard. Get a wife.

>>18478

Anything could warrant a fwb, depending on the people you're looking for, but like >>18484 said, get you a wifey.

>>18484

>>18485

I'm not enough mentally (emotionally) stable to get a longterm relationship, but I need closeness and love. Fwb seems to be the only compromise to me.

>Anything could warrant a fwb, depending on the people you're looking for

I'm just looking for someone who is nice to me and relatively good looking I guess. What does warrant a fwb in this case?

>>18489

Being nice to me means being a person I can relax with. Someone who, at least apparently, cares about me and shows it.

>>18491

So just a friend? (with benefits)

>>18493

Yeah, basically. I'm not a demanding person.

So how do I proceed in acquiring one?

>>18494

You don't. All you're going to get is used for your own flesh, and tossed aside. Stop lying to yourself.

>>18498

Well not everyone can get a smol traditional wife on the first try, m8.

>>18498

Gosh, you're so negative. Can you just stop criticizing me at least, if you don't want to help?

>>18499

>smol

Quit being a faggot. All you should be concerned with is making sure she's genetically sound and a virgin.

>>18502

>want to help

>stop criticising me

Doesn't work that way. That you interpret what I post as criticism tells of how deeply it strikes. Get your shit together, man. Aim high.

>>18510

>Doesn't work that way. That you interpret what I post as criticism tells of how deeply it strikes. Get your shit together, man. Aim high.

Look sis, I can't get a long term relationship. I've been trying for years, but every time I have to pretend to be something I'm not to even keep them around. As soon as I get one moment of weakness or try to talk about my personal issues, they leave me, no exception. I'm a broken shell of a man with broken self-image and I'm not able to keep a relationship.

>inb4 don't show weakness

Well, that kind of relationship is called being friends. Plus fucking, it's fwb.

>>18516

Women are not your friends. Quit pretending there are no stark differences. Once you manage to keep up this sense of strength, you will find success.

>>18523

>boyfriend

Quit being a degenerate.

>>18524

<Women are not your friends

t. Rejected fedoralord

<Quit being a degenerate

Says the man who probably wanks to little anime girls

>>18525

>projection

>projection

Fix your shit, and quit being so desperate for powsi.

>>18528

First off, I ain't the thirsty fuck. Second, why don't you follow your own example, why the fuck are you even here?

>>18529

You asked for it. Be grateful.

>>18530

I didn't ask for anything, so I can't be grateful gor anything

>>18532

>please help me :(

>wtf stop being mean

Never gonna make it.

>>18533

I'm not him tho

>>18534

Yet you are. More alike than you'd want to admit. Simply put don't be such a bitch.

>>18535

You first, pal

>>18489

Is this image ironic

>>18545

It's a gf meme that doesn't seem to have many exaggerations, so I'd say genuine

>>18541

Quit being a bitch.

>>18561

No u

>>18360

>>18361

>>18362

Me again, I feel so overwhelmingly miserable. I've reached out to so many people with my update and so far not one can give me a definitive answer.

She got released from the nuthouse. She's fully and permanently embraced her femininity and looks fantastic. She made a new facebook, whether to avoid me or the general public is a good question. But she's posting a ton of information that could be used to locate and contact her everywhere she knows I can look. I have a no contact order though so I can't. She's all smiles and happy in the dozens of pictures and videos she's posting but I mean it could be an act to get out of the nuthouse and get all her freedoms back…? In one picture she added a filter that makes the background a certain object which only has significance to us. It's specifically my nickname for her. So that got me excited that she was trying to reach out to me, but then I checked elsewhere. She lists three pieces of I information. First that she's returning to attending school, second she lists a community college she'll go to afterwards. Here. Away from me. Now these could be things to appease her parents or evidence she's taking root now that she has her actual identity back.

The third thing is a countdown to her birthday which could be meant to say she'll have more freedom to so as she likes then.

However, I had a panic attack when I saw one of her newest pictures. It was a set of four pictures of male models. She says underneath "this is my dream man. If you find someone who looks like this let me know."

Most obvious meaning? She's totally done with me and looking for someone new, but she also comments "I have very high standards" which could mean this was posted to appease friends and family trying to get her to date. It could mean she's trying to convince them she's over me or it could even be she thinks the guys look similar to me.

Any way I look at it I'm crushed and it kills me I can't just contact her to at the very least have closure if she is done with me.

>>18676

I hate to sound like an ass, but it should be obvious that if your happiness depends on a chick and whether she likes you or not, you're going to be riding a roller-coaster of emotions before finally ending up with anger and suicidal depression. You need to get off this wild ride before you hurt yourself (and maybe others) even more.

Find another girl and don't take things too seriously with her, if she won't like you then it should be fine, if she does then think of it as a nice bonus.

>>18690

>I'm hesd over heels in love with this person. We planned to get married. I have an engagement ring and everything.

<meh, you care too much. pretend you're a sociopath and just go move on to someone else.

>>16405

pol

>>16587

maybe the library at your school?

What's your stance on /r9k/?

>>18758

Fucking gay as sin

>>18758

I have a lot in common with the lads there, but they're so toxic that everyone should stay out of there regardless of gender. It's crabs in a bucket.

I present to you an event from life, take what you can from it. It took 20 years for this to complete. There are only 3 people (to my knowledge) that know about this. I have never spoken of this event, and those concerned will never see it here. One is no longer with us.

1. College: Notice hottie, make eye contact.

continue for several weeks without attempting to talk, greet or meet.

2. Several weeks to months later, hottie tracks me down. I do not know how she found me or whom she got her intel from. I was clueless. Go inside my place

3. Convo turns to something hotter. Deal is not closed, I am the reason it was not closed. (Had gut feeling then, and maintain that gut feeling today that had I closed the deal, we would be married today.)

4. No further contact nor knowledge of location between myself and hottie for 20 years.

5. Hottie moves to friend of mine within 2 weeks of our encounter. Hottie eventually marries friend. (I predicted this, even without contact or any direct intel. Gut feeling)

6. Hottie's husband is killed (recent)

7. When I'm made aware, I seek until I find hottie contact info.(within 1 day)

8. Hour long phone convo, hottie is shocked but happy to hear from me. Makes comment about no contact for so long and provides an assumed but very wrong reason.

8.5 Emails exchanged, only a few. Replies quick and informative on the first, subsequent replies, less info with longer return times.

9. Pain of loss of friend, pain in the knowledge of what I let go, Pain in the knowledge of her hurt, and whiskey until pain overcomes good sense and I compose a letter. This letter explains in detail all truth of the events of that one afternoon 20 years ago. (sent via email)

10. No reply, 12 hours. Likely no reply ever.

Result: She knows truth. Has enlightenment. I have nothing more than I did 20 years go.

Don't do this. Especially if you wish to maintain or restart that friendship.

Consequences.

Stupidity.

The right thing.

But, if my heart was broken when realization set in 20 years go, its annihilated today.

Logically, the info in the letter provided the reasons for my actions. Shows they were respectful and edifying to her. Those actions I took hurt ME worse in the end. She enjoyed several years of good marriage and a family. I remained alone, depressed and lost my opportunity for children.

I fail to understand the reason why my letter would be met with no response. Speculation would suggest that I did hurt her, badly, back then. Bringing that pain back up in the mist of the pain of losing her husband only serves to compound the loss. Since I'm still alive, I am the target of the anger now. Back then, I rejected her. I don't even know if she cried about it. Speculation only.

I no longer maintain any expectation of further contact between us. That ball is in her court. Time will tell. It is a fitting end though. Ending much as it started. When she came to me, I was friends with him, I rejected her, she moved to him, this leads to family, happiness, then loss, then I show back up, attempt to explain and apologize, and she rejects me,The End. Full circle.

No closure for me.

Another question that only God has the ability to answer. I pray that someday he will.

No good has come from her loss.

No good has come from my reestablished contact and subsequent loss there of.

No good can be extrapolated or derived from the events that have transpired.

There are two heartbroken human females, one human male with an annihilated heart compounded with the realization that actions of 20 years ago sealed his fate that he would be involuntarily childless, and alone. Failure compounded due to the fact that it's the same female today as it was 20 years ago.

Ladies. Thoughts….

>>18820

How the hell did they guess your sex from a gondola post?

>>18792

This woman was married to her husband for decades. She loved him, likely had chidlren? I suppose for you, time has stood still since you hurt her. You remember her most when she was interested in you. She likely remembers you most as the moment when she moved to her love, her husband, who is now dead.

She's just lost her life-long partner - her best friend. She may have good days and bad days. Days where she cries herself to sleep out of mourning and days where she puts on a brave face for her family. Who knows, maybe she feels guilty about having a phone conversation with you - since likely she wouldn't have done that had her husband been alive. It seems you wouldn't have contacted her while he was alive.

>You're intentionally vague on how you hurt her. What consequences would your letter have should her family find out about it? Is this something she would wish her children never to know?

<She may distance herself from you for that reason alone.

>Are the revelations you gave in your letter ones that take time to absorb emotionally?

<Women can swing emotions about an event like a pendulum, not knowing which emotion is the 'correct' or final one.

>What are the chances you may have incorrect perceptions of that time and she may have revelations for you that could make you feel worse than you already do?

<She may not reply to avoid even further pain.

>Is she taken care of? Does she have a way to support her family?

<It's not much consolation, but desperation can work in your favor.

>Curious, do you believe there is a way for you to get closure without rekindling what you had?

<Even if she did email you back "I forgive you" or some such thing, I don't think you'd get real closure without meeting in person, and she may not want that given that she has a family to watch over.

How would you be feeling if you had found a woman and started a family around the time she did? Would you still have done the same thing?

>>18850

Maybe your post didn't sound "male" enough for them?

Why do girls list their age as 99 on various websites?

>>18901

To avoid telling their age.

>>18850

>he just blows the whistle on me as a known woman terrorizing /b/.

If you were tripfagging, you deserved it. It's culturally insensitive.

However, yes. Gondola is comfy, not for any of that trash. i really miss pre-election imageboards

>>17437

You sound like a whiny bitch. I think your idea of asserting masculinity comes off as emotionally needy and overcompensating, making it a trainwreck of a performance that quickly turns off women. Try calming the fuck down and maybe get a therapist (preferably male, since female therapists can be less helpful on issues pertaining to masculinity, you still gotta hear 'em out though).

>>18676

Posting way too late to be helpful but if you need to know, have your lawyer act as an intermediary and hear her out on this. It's the best way to figure this shit out without breaking a law somewhere and causing it all to go to hell in a handbasket.

>>18698

It's hard to tell in a situation as fucked up as that, honestly. For all we know it could just be plain old loneliness and her being forced to express it in ways that won't get her in trouble.

>>18980

>i really miss pre-election imageboards

Yeah, getting the fucking horrible /pol/ influx really wrecked 8chan. So many idiots suddenly joining, and trying to shitpost all the boards into being 4chan all over again and screeching at anyone who calls them out on their generally awful behavior. Seems to be getting a bit better these days, but only a bit.

I'm lonely :(

>>19037

Then go outside and meet people. Fucking go to gyms (and work out for real, working out always helps when you're down >>>/fit/ for tips), parks, libraries, bars, and just randomly meet people. Don't be afraid to just walk up to someone, introduce yourself, just say hello, nice to meet you, "what brings you here" (you can say "just walking around" or "just meeting people" casually for lack of a better reason if you get asked) and start shooting the shit about whatever. Don't focus on qualifying yourself, just talk about whatever. If you act relaxed, people will be relaxed around you.

>>19149

Her politics tbh. Even girls who come from rough homes and have tattoos and shit can have hearts of gold and spend their lives trying to be better. But dating a girl who is super liberal or a hardcore feminist is like putting ur dick in a garbage disposal and hoping she doesn't flip the switch.

>>19150

For sure, but I mean more subtle stuff. For example, in my last relationship it turned out my gf was with another guy, but was unhappy and looking to jump his ship to skip onto my ship instead. This girl was a trad qt type of girl, but turned out she wasn't sincere and just tried to appear the way she thought I wanted her to be. I guess what I'm really asking is how do I sort out who's genuine and who isn't? I've experienced a lack of genuinity more than once.

>>19152

You have to ask her the right questions and subtley test her, it's what women also do to you all the time. You have to know exactly what you want from them and try to find out if they have it so that you can reject them before you get too deeply invested into the relationship.

For example, what I want from a girl is for her to be a virgin, submissive, and loyal, so something like that isn't always immediately obvious, so I will try to find it out as quickly as possible, so that in case she isn't, I wouldn't waste any more time with her and move on to the next candidate.

>>19154

I know what I want, which is similar to what you want, but I really should be more subtle. The last few women I've dated or been with have been far too eager to appear as things which they are not.

>>19152

Some women are really good at playing the role you want until they are bored, get what they want from you and/or you turn out not to be what they wanted at all. There's no sure fire way to determine if this is the case tbh. Often other trusted women are your best bet for determining these things as we judge each other constantly and already know the tricks. Otherwise you have to just hone your discernment skills. Don't give too much in the beginning, see how she reacts. Is she clingy? Is she overly secretive? Does she pry into your private affairs as if she has a right to do so? Does she always want to know where you are (this could be because SHE is the one that is cheating while pretending she doesn't trust YOU to throw you off) These are just some things you can actively look for that are potential red flags.

>>19159

Thanks, seems like good things to look out for. And yeah, I've learned that there are no guarantees in life. Don't know any women I'd trust to do that for me. I've tried, but there's been ulterior motives. Never fell for it.

>>19237

I am either retarded or being on here at 4am isn't a good idea, but anyways >>19161 dude just be aware that some girls will have an agenda. But there are very good girls out there just be patient, it'll work out eventually.

>>19237

>>19238

Yeah, I'm hopeful, just asking to learn about the female mind and see if my suspicions about this or that are correct.

>>19254

That's good advice. What's behind it? Envy is probably going to be an answer, but I'd guess a lot of it is women who have frail egos and don't handle being contradicted well. They create friendships and groups where everyone walls each other's egos off. Breach of the social contract results in ostracization and banishment from cat island. It's an environment where only the bad behaviour gets rewarded (and the women make it so). Also sounds a lot like modern culture.

>>19290

>What's behind it?

It's complicated and yes envy can be and usually is a factor. I mean it's not unlike any group of people who get together really. When mob mentality kicks in you can justify all kinds of horrible shit as long as others are backing you up. It's usually the eternally "single and loving it" types that will do this in my own experience. There might be girls out there who do love it, but imo most are lonely and hyper sensitive about it. To be fair, I think they actually believe their own bullshit. I mean they have to or else they'd crack. It's sad imo and the reasons they end up that way are certainly up for debate, but don't underestimate how much influence these types have on other girls especially since society generally condones it. They are sort of like the Instagram thots who show you all these glamorous photos in exotic locations and make you wish you could be like them, when in reality Prince Abdul Mohammed Derkaderka and his buddies are pissing and shitting on her chest behind the scenes so she can fund her "wanderlust". That's my take on it anyway, for what it's worth.

>>19294

Almost all people believe their own bullshit, that's how they get by. This is from what I understand also how narcissism works. Sadly I know even men who are like this. My take it's a very deep, narcissistic insecurity. Anyway, thanks.

Lets face it, this board is overrun by dudes.

I'll confess I'm one that comes here just to see how bad it's being shit up from time to time. You can't have anything nice on 8ch.

>>19325

>implying you are a girl

>implying "he" isn't a tranny

>implying "he" isn't right given the board's name

>>19345

I am a girl. Why do you faggots do this all the time? Maybe you're the fucking tranny who's jealous of my natural vagene, hmm? I think I'll start calling this type of posting "vagina-envy" posting. The sad projection of a transmale who desperately wants to be the closest thing to a female on 8ch. Seems about right to me since there's no other logical explanation for all this "hurrrrr you aren't a girl" posting.

>>19347

I'm sorry anon. You may not feel it now but count yourself among the lucky that she even told you this shit so you could stay clear of her. It might not be the case, but that's addict behavior imo. I knew girls who would just shack up with any guy they could get their fix with… for a night, a week, a month, whatever. If that's the case then don't take it too personally. You improved your own life in the hopes she would work out. She didn't but you're doing a lot better now I bet, despite the heartbreak, and are a stronger person. Discernment is something you learn, and it necessitates some fuck ups before you get it right. Next time, you'll know the warning signs right away.

>>19347

>>19347

>I already bought the plane ticket so I'm going to fly out and leave the presents in her mailbox and just go on vacation for a week.

OR

You could do yourself a favor, and go there on vacation and give the presents out to people who might actually deserve/need them.

Maybe it's gonna be hard for you to forget her that quick, but you shouldn't be dragging yourself down.

Make the best of the situation and try to enjoy by yourself on that vacation and maybe actually meet someone new.

>>19347

>LDR

You know better, anon.

I'm a gay sub dude and I see women and other submissive/femlike gay dudes as competition.

am I a woman?

Hoping you guys can give me some insight and feedback. I plan on leaving my relationship of three years. This will happen just before my 33rd birthday. I have a good job, I workout and am in decent shape, and I’d like to think I have a decent enough personality.

What worries me is that I’ll be 33 and single. I’m not sure if that is a good or bad thing. I don’t want to come off as too old, or as the guy that got left behind. Then again, I’ve also heard that men peak in attractiveness in our early thirties.

My question is, what are my demographics as a single man at 33? Will women in their 20’s be interested? Also if you have any advice on my future dating life please give it. I’d really like to meet a good girl and sweep her off her feet and do this next one right this time. Thanks in advance.

>>19587

Boyim here. I assume you are leaving the relationship with good reason? Having tried to communciate/work out differences? Or just trying to "get someone hotter"? Honesty helps.

>>19588

Here’s what happened:

I became friends with this girl while in school. She’s five years older than me, has a kid (14), really sweet and kind personality that I love, but is a bit pudgy. I helped her through her classes and we stayed in touch only as friends.

Some months later she got herself into a financial bind and asked me for help and to see if she could move in with me until she got on her feet. I said yes. In hindsight this was a bad idea…

I paid off her debt and was supporting her through this phase. She openly admitted to liking me and wanting to be with me, I was hesitant. One night while we were both drinking she asked me out and I said yes. When we were sober I told her (in the nicest way I know how) that she has to work and lose the weight. This becomes a problem as she proceeds to try to get a job with her degree(software, same as me). What she doesn’t understand is that sometimes the big cushy office job doesn’t land in your lap and you have to do something part time. I worked at a gas station while I was in college before I have the good paying job I have now.

So then it becomes her not working for months at a time and me getting frustrated over her not paying her bills. When I try to talk to her it’s always the “economy”. When I suggest getting a part time job it’s not “in my field”. Plus she didn’t lose any weight.

So I finally decide that it’s the last straw and try a break up. It’s a nightmare because she doesn’t have the money to move out, I’ve spent all my money supporting me, her and her kid, so I have nothing saved up to move out with myself. So now I’m stuck with living with my ex while paying for her and her kid….

Just….

Anywho, I get back with her since it’s slightly better than being in the previous living situation. She did eventually get a house cleaning job for 10 an hour that lasted about 2 months and then quit for another four. These cycles of her working for two months and not working for 4-5 have been going on for the better part of 2 years….

I really like this girl, but I don’t like what she did. Just coming into my life and dropping all the problems on me. Who wants to commit to that?

I wouldn’t do that to her… and I want a partner that won’t do it to me.

Honestly anon, I would really like to fall in love and be with a great person by being a great person myself. It would be great if she was hot but she doesn’t have to be a super model just don’t get fat.

I know that to win that kind of girl I have to be that kind of man. So I go on boards like this, read different kinds of books and try different things in real life. I’m trying to become the perfect man to get the perfect girl. I’ll have enough to leave her soon and get my own house without leaving her and the kid in a bad spot. I just wonder what the dating scene will be like at 33.

I really hope some females read this story and make it a point to never treat anyone like that. Because if you do, your man will be trying to leave you.

>>19591

That's certainly a disfunctional relationship, then.

I'm guessing that the equation isn't as simple (as much as we would like it to be) as "I'm a great guy, so I get a great girl." If not only because of the luck factor involved. As someone who has been single for a long time, what I often say is, "All the good ones are taken."

The dating scene at 33 is going to depend heavily on your area - in mine, for someone your age, it would be full of women who are like yours - recently dumped, with kids, shitloads of baggage, and a heaping spoonful of entitlement. I think the right thing to do is focus on first-things-first. Get out of that situation, recover emotionally, so that this experience doesn't negatively bleed into your next relationship, then see where you're at from there. There's nothing we can do about the dating scene individually, it just is what it is, but you have to get out of there, so first thing's first, in my book.

Take it with a grain of salt, though. I've been single for 8 years or so while on my own quest to become a "great guy." Still working on it…at any rate, that's my two cents.

>>19593

>As someone who has been single for a long time, what I often say is, "All the good ones are taken."

just for clarification, I'm including myself in the "all the good ones are taken" comment, not being taken myself.

>>19591

>I really hope some females read this story and make it a point to never treat anyone like that. Because if you do, your man will be trying to leave you.

Not quite what I got from that. I got that you are one crazy motherfucker who cucked himself. You might even end up paying child support, depending on the state. You fucked up royally, and show no sign of improvement in your thinking or even remorse for wasting your own time, and hers, and wasting your funds on someone you don't love and their kid.

>>19595

>partner being a bad partner is me failing

>talk about me improving

>but show no sign of improving

1/10 weak ass troll

>>19593

This. That’s my focus.

>>19603

Put yourself out in the playing field, -look- avaible to date and romance (through conversation, or attitude or both).

If you do that enough someone will pick you up lol.

>>19669

Big guys are fine. Big, lazy/unmotivated guys are another thing all together, even if they are funny and likeable. What do you want in a partner? Are you just looking to settle with whomever settles for you? That's sort of the vibe I'm getting. Which is fine if you've resigned yourself to that. Attraction certainly is important but it'd be unrealistic for you to ask more of someone else than you ask of yourself.

>>19671

>Are you just looking to settle with whomever settles for you?

God, no.

>lazy/unmotivated

I'm not going to argue against the fact that I'm lazy, always have been, probably always will be. I just take things a bit slower.

Unmotivated, however, I certainly am not. I try to eat healthily, which I stick to 80% of the time, but it's not getting rid of the weight I've kept on me since childhood. I fucking suck at running, but every couple of months I try to pick it up again. Been trying to have my friend join me, but he won't because he's thin as a rake without any exercise at all.

Honestly at this point I'm considering giving up on losing weight and focusing on gaining muscle instead. Bear route, y'know?

>>19672

The more muscle you have the more energy your body is able to spend at once, so that's not a stupid idea.

>>19669

What is attractive to a man is not the same as for a woman. A man sees an attractive body and gets turned on. A woman is attracted to a man because of how he treats her. A woman worshipped up on a pedestal is not attractive. A woman wants to feel special. If you show that you're desperate for any woman, she won't want you. Women (who aren't just looking for money) would much rather have a plump, good natured, confident man than a thin good-looking beta male who bends to her every whim.

However, if finding a fit woman is important to you, remember that if your diet and excercize are poor, a woman who starts out fit and attractive may join you and end up fat as well. It might help to start a sport together to keep you both motivated and in good shape.

>>19672

Girls couldn't give a shit if you're a fat ass. If you're fine with it then they will be fine with it, but if you're insecure, they will feel it and get turned off by how you feel about yourself.

>lazy/unmotivated

Now this is unattractive as fuck. They want a guy who lives a cool life that they can be a part of.

>I fucking suck at running

Why not go swimming? You could meet a cute girl at the swimming pool.

>>19675

>A man sees an attractive body and gets turned on. A woman is attracted to a man because of how he treats her.

but there's different levels of attraction too, isn't there? Like I can hook up with a girl, and if I wake up and she's doing makeup - okay, who cares? If she's making breakfast, then my attraction goes from, "I'm willing to buy you a few drinks and make you laugh" to, "I'm willing to work a hard job 50 hours a week for the next 30 years to keep you out of the workforce, slightly chubby, and happy as the center of a fruitful household." I know it doesn't seem like a big deal, but there's definitely a different feeling based on how the woman treats the man, too.

>>19702

Yes, that's what the whole dating game is basically. It's your job to have sex with women, and it's their job to get you to commit to them.

Since when did this become a self-help box? Anyway to the overweight dude, it's always a mixture of personality and appearance. I've seen dudes twice my weight (bit of a doughboy myself) that managed to have a wife and a kid, but he had an endearing personality. Bear in mind endearing doesn't mean nice, he can honestly be a piece of shit most of the time, but he has his moments.

And I guess since we're sharing our gripes and issues: I'm about to be 20, in college, and am of average height (though a bit pudgy). I've been developing some "incellish" tendencies and it ends up making me feel like shit overall, but I can't stop acting this way. Like it's some kind of weird satisfaction of complaining about woman as though they're a homogenous group (usually it's more directed at SJW types) and taking potshots at girls when someone brings up an issue. Also kind of ties into submissive guys too, where I end up despising them almost as much as women. I just need some advice on how to stop doing this shit.

>>19705

>Like it's some kind of weird satisfaction of complaining

It's called being a psychic vampire. It's when some depressed asshole plays the victim to get you as depressed as he is so that you will be able relate to him about his shitty life and pity him. Then when you're left feeling like shit with all the negativity you were given, you also try to get rid of it by complaining and spreading it to somebody else to feel a bit better, leading them to do the same and continue the chain reaction.

>I just need some advice on how to stop doing this shit.

Get rid of any victim mentality you might have, don't be caught being a whiney bitch, avoid negative people and emotional parasites, it might seem like they're clever or "being realistic" or something at first, but they're all dead inside and trying to take everyone else with them, "realism" has nothing to do with anything, because while looking at life for what it is, you can still choose to focus on the parts that are either good or bad.

>>19707

>It's called being a psychic vampire

Well I mean when ya put it that way. I mean I don't think anyone has really changed because of me, but the "wanting others to hurt" fits.

>Get rid of any victim mentality you might have

I'm trying, it's just people post shit, and I can't help but opine on it. It's like a kneejerk reaction idk.

>>19713

>That's what everyone thinks

I meant like in my limited scope, I honestly avoid cesspools like those boards. I haven't lost all hope, it's just I'm soured on modern women in general.

>just a way of seeking pity indirectly

Oh no I don't expect anyone to agree, I just screech about it regardless.

>it's like being one of those submissive guys you despise

But they answer to someone else, usually a domineering female figure. I just spew vitriol indiscriminately

>>19716

>What does it even mean?

The main gripe is usually with the whores. My personal gripe is with women having developed a strong tendency to overvalue themselves and try to make themselves as independent as possible, regardless of their stance on feminism.

Overvaluing themselves from how much attention there is so easily available for them - not everyone is an instagram thot, but sure enough a lot of women use at least one social network, and sure enough they will be getting the upboats en masse purely for being female, and constantly be hit on if they are even remotely attractive.

Independence is generally unattractive in women, especially when paired with big fat superficial unwarranted confidence and underlying severe insecurities, which again seems to describe a good chunk of them. Then the same stronk independent women refuse to settle down and have children at a reasonable age, keep studying, building their careers, optionally ride lots of dicks, then have children at thirty-something and act surprised when they have assburgers.

>>19716

>There's always been sluts and attention whores and cheaters and backstabbers

Law of averages, seems like there are a higher concentration of them now than before. Or at least they feel less insecure about doing stuff like that.

>Regardless, the vast majority of women aren't Instagram thots

They still sleep around, no? Just because they don't consider themselves whores, doesn't mean they aren't.

>and don't even consider themselves feminists

Depends on how you word it, really. I've met a lot of women that act like "misogyny" is alive and kicking.

>Just talk to people like they are human beings and maybe you'll meet someone you like and who likes you back

Considering current standards, I probably wouldn't make the cut. And even if I did manage to find someone, I'd be paranoid as fuck about if she's doing shit behind my back. Guess what, whores look like everyone else.

>>19718

>>19717

Ok well I guess don't go out and meet people. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Have you both just given up and accepted you'll be alone forever then? Do you believe there's non "modern women" out there churning butter in a country kitchen just dreaming of being swept away to trad land? How will you get her? What do you have to offer her? And I mean in the here and now, not in a fantasy land where someday you'll be /fit/ and /biz/. I'm genuinely curious. Because in the past men had financial security, careers, land, inheritance, etc. to offer a virgin bride. Men highly value virginity, so what does the trad virgin get of high value in return from the modern man if he no longer has those things? A Steam library with 1000+ games? Rare Pepes?

I'm being somewhat cheeky but am genuinely curious. Usually paired with the /pol/esque talking points you raise is a conversation about how women largely follow the lead of men (I don't disagree tbh). What does that say about how women act today then? From where I stand men largely reinforce and encourage all the things you criticize about women. What's the solution then? One doesn't exist without the other in some vacuum. Men and women are inexorably linked and act upon each other with varying degrees of influence and have throughout history, like tipping scales from side to side. I have more questions but I don't want to overload the conversation.

And a friendly reminder that nu-males are just gal-pals with dicks. Women want success, not submission.

>>19720

>not sleeping around is worth a fortune

Yeah I didn't say that nor do I believe that. I'm posing questions pertaining to the idea that women should shirk modernity for tradition. Then again didn't some woman sell her virginity for 2 million in an online auction last year or something? My point was that marriage was mainly transactional no? Virginity and youth for stability. Children/heirs for shelter and security. There's lots of reasons why this isn't the case anymore in the West and those can be debated forever in their own right. But why should women, and men for that matter, be expected to uphold the old order when the foundation for those things (morally, legally, socially, etc.) barely exist anymore? You can argue for their merits but you'd still be swimming against the tide of never ending change.

Just to be clear here, I'm not arguing in favor of any of this shit. But I see this "modern woman" debate all over the boards and it usually ends with "Yeah soyboy cucks and thots are the worst am I right?." I suppose acknowledgement is the first step but I'm curious what is beyond that, if anything.

In my own opinion these things rubber band throughout history. Return to traditionalism and cultural homogenization is inevitable but another round of radical individualism and progressive change will follow and there will be periods of a bit of both in between the cycles. I think we're entering that stage now. The in-between bit I mean ;). Transgenderism taking hold is literally the death knell of a decadent, self absorbed society (which no doubt we are), so it's coming and probably within our lifetimes for sure. Usually accompanied by war. But I digress. Point is, trad qt 3.14's coming to a village near you after the nuclear firestorm subsides.

>>19723

I'm really not sure if it's "traditional," now that I think about it, it's just "not a complete whore." I think it stems from a lot of insecurities they developed throughout their lives relating to dating and such, and greentexts only make it worse.

And for those that really wanna go back to tradition, just want the societal rot to cease, or at least slow down enough to let people savor their time before shit changes again.

<have to endure a nuclear firestorm to get a decent wife

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>>19719

I am fit and successful in business and with money.

I plan on getting a south east asian, eastern european, or even middle eastern wife (i am starting to become Muslim).

I dont consider western "women" to be women anynore, since they actively try to not be women!

Cooking, cleaning, laundry, raising children, getting married etc

They are all postmodern feminists. They are going against nature and have no idea why they are miserable.

The desire to reproduce drives men and so we work hard on ourselves so we end up fit/health and with a future/success.

But women dont want that. Women would rather go for an alcoholic/heroin addict who drives a motorcycle and is unemployed. Women only want to stop being sluts once they hit the wall and realise their looks are fading. Then its like musical chairs where they quickly try to grab any relatively successful man they can so they can start a family (thus not appearing like failures to their friends and family). However the good men have already settled down or they do not want some old slut. The only men left are losers. The women who marries them will never be attracted to them, she is just settling, and so she will eventually cheat. The guy will find out and then ether he will divorce her or she will resent him more for not leaving (confirmation he is a complete loser, embarrassing to her status that that is who she has ended up with). She will thus keep cheating until he does divorce.

I want a family more than anything else now. But western "women" dont. So i will get a wife from an eastern country who is traditional.

I dont even know what western women bring to the table anymore.

I know what i bring, i am successful with a future, confident and attractive.

What does a western women do?

They only settle down when their looks fade. They refuse to cook, clean and do laundry etc (plus we have or will have robots soon to do that).

I have tried loving women, it doesnt work and so i gave up on that. Women only respond to the "power and control domestoc abuse circle". I dont want to treat women that way, but its what they want.

I want a normal, traditional women.

I will find marriage maybe in south east asia. Or i will go to Afghanistan and buy some goats and trade them for a women.

And not so she can become some sex slave that feminists think happenes. But that so i can have a wife, a normal relationship. A relationship where i dont have to "game" her with push/pull everyday like im in a club and worry she might wonder off an fuck some guy who is "in a band" (unemployed) with tattoos and sells weed or something.

I just want a wife and children.

I have given up completely on western women, i dont even look at them anymore (this unfortunately makes them attracted to me, pathetic)

>>19727

Too much bait for this board.

>>19729

>women must wear a burka (cant go around exposing themselves)

>women cant leave the house unless a male relatove walks them (like a dog, so that they dont go around fucking everything)

>whores are stoned to death

>get to slaughter filthy normies (kufr)

I love Islam

>>19728

Indeed lol. Try not to cut yourself on his edge.

>>19734

>I'm from a well-off family, finishing university in a very good field, effectively guaranteed to not have money issues in the future.

Congrats, so are most women nowadays. Seriously, it's like they want the sexes to bicker

>>17167

I mean, I really don't believe in leagues. This may sound like virtue signalling but I really mean it when I say I don't care too much how someone looks if they are sweet to me and loyal and good hubby material I will marry them

>>19749

You're going to make someone very happy, anon.

>cuckime

Argie boy here and i Need an advice.

Im looking for a girl in my country the problem is that every girl i currently found is a slut or a fucking degenerate. Feminism and all the lefty shit totally destroyed the society we got. So… What should i do? I really want a typical /pol/ Traditional girl that valores herself, is intelligent and blah blah blah… But… It looks like they are not existent in here…

Should i just give up and start dating the whores? They are the only ones that at least hit on me :c

I dont want to have mutt babys :c

i just learned that females arent capable of loving a man. why dont you fuckers speak up about that instead of letting the lie of romance live on?

evil cunts

>>20197

Control your own horny levels, lest you fall with others who cannot control their own.

Wtf are you guys actually girls wtf

>>20648

>If I have relatively nothing to offer but my own love in a relationship

>I have a job, I enjoy my hobbies, and am working towards building a future for myself independently

You know those are all things girls like, right?

What would you offer, otherwise? What's that thing you think you're lacking?

>>6588

If there is really any femanon here I want you to be sincere when answering my questions and not simply answer to give me hope. If you aren't a biologically female please refrain from answering, If I wanted answers from men I would be on, cutemale, gay, lgbt or w/e name these board have now, not here.

I am a 20 something year old with serious confidence problems among other things. These confidence problems come(I believe) from when I was a kid. I had a "girlfriend" at the time if you could even call it as such(she was older than me, both of us were underage not even teenagers at that time). After some time she left me for another older guy(teenager) simply because he had a bigger dick. Now, over a decade latter I still can't get over that. Because of what happened with that girl when I was young I avoided being anything more than friends with any girls, being poor also played a a big part of these decisions. I don't deny that I was kinda autistic while growing up(may still be the case) but that din't stop me from being invited to new year parties, trips and b day parties by girls. In my circle of friends there would be girls who would sit on my lap, laugh at my good or bad jokes, tell me that I look "handsome" when I actually put effort in to how I looked, that would walk with me to HS and so on. I would be the first to recognize that I am under average when it comes to my body(5 foot 8 or 175 cm tall, and about 13 cm or 5 inch down there) but I am quite sure my autism isn't the problem as I never hinted to any of this to any of the girls I have ever talked with. What is going on? Do they smell my insecurity and small dick? How comes that I am still a virgin and kiss less? I mean that wouldn't be the problem it it was out of my own choice but it has never come down to that.

t. europoor, ESL

>>20650

>You know those are all things girls like, right?

>What would you offer, otherwise? What's that thing you think you're lacking?

wow great insight. right up there with "just be yourself"

women want to be with a man who will increase the woman's social status. classic means to this end are a big house, fast car, access to drugs, impressive job title, celebrity status, physical attractiveness, ability to create attractive offspring, and gifts of jewelry/flowers/things that can be shown off

>>20671

incel logic

>>6588

What's the significance of your name as Snailgirl? Does it have any relation to the snail man in Gezebelle Gaburgably songs? I assume no but as a shot in the dark I wanted to check.

>>20672

Is it? I have all of those things but they've done a very questionable amount in dating life. Literally it's a pretty respectable job where either people don't know what it is or they say "Oh you must be smart" when they hear it. Regarding the rest it's similar, I have pretty decent hobbies from semi-intense sports to technical hobbies, working towards financial independence through owning a few properties. I guess it helps a little as in it's something to talk about, and I definitely don't boast about it on dates and only really bring it up if questioned about it, but next to a homeless person women tend to pick the homeless person.

I don't mean to pile on the incel talk because I'm sure these forums get it a lot, but there's a pretty decent divide in people's experiences that should be resolved.

>>20679

Accidentally posted as Femanon

>>20679

Snailgirl vanished more than 3 years ago. Current board owner is >>>16756

>>20672

>incel logic

do you realize you are proving me right?

Why are #notall BUT MOST wamen fundamentally prejudiced against feminine, submissive men? Especially considering that you yourselves are all submissive, what a joke. And then you'll even lie and deny to yourselves and others that this happens to be true. The biological sex of 'hypocrisy' and 'bigotry' and 'deceit.' Such a disgrace. We're not living in the stone ages anymore - maybe it's time to 'man up' and allow your intellect to supersede your maternal instinct? But no, you are too weak to manage to do that nor do you hold any desire to whatsoever. So much for being strong and independent, and equal, and all that nonsense, huh?

Hi Girls. So, I have a little confession: I'm a really lovely person IRL, but a massive pervert at heart: I like watching sexy, beautiful adult women wetting themselves, squirting everywhere with cum-filled pussies, and in particular wearing & wetting diapers. My views aren't alone – look at the /abdl section of this site.

What do you think when you read that, about my sexual fetish? Massive peeeerv, or not to weird? Would you partake for love?

Since this was meant to be a board for females I planned on moving to nofap, not because I have a fap addiction (I don't) but because I thought that my posts about casual sex being disgusting and evil and other related topics would be accepted there; however, I soon found that nofap was even deader then this board, so I returned here.

How many communities are there that accept the view that love, not fake love but real love, is an important thing to consider before having sex. How many online communities take seriously the concept that personality is more important than physical appearance? Not many. Their are probably dozens of people who are going to read my posts and say "Incel Hating Guy is a total loser for thinking that casual sex is bad". I feel that a female dominated community is more likely to take my rants seriously.

End of rant.

looking through old posts

>>18676

That is probably the most tragic story I've read all day.

Females, hypothetically speaking, how would you react if a man who was close to you revealed he likes little girls?

The tranny board

I really like women. I have nothing else to say.