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No.19716
>>19714
>I'm soured on modern women in general.
I always see this being said but you're a modern man no? What does it even mean? Why shouldn't we be modern in the modern world?
Are you talking about sluts? Is that what it means? There's always been sluts and attention whores and cheaters and backstabbers. Regardless, the vast majority of women aren't Instagram thots and don't even consider themselves feminists. Why get soured about that shit? Just talk to people like they are human beings and maybe you'll meet someone you like and who likes you back.
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No.19717
>>19716
>What does it even mean?
The main gripe is usually with the whores. My personal gripe is with women having developed a strong tendency to overvalue themselves and try to make themselves as independent as possible, regardless of their stance on feminism.
Overvaluing themselves from how much attention there is so easily available for them - not everyone is an instagram thot, but sure enough a lot of women use at least one social network, and sure enough they will be getting the upboats en masse purely for being female, and constantly be hit on if they are even remotely attractive.
Independence is generally unattractive in women, especially when paired with big fat superficial unwarranted confidence and underlying severe insecurities, which again seems to describe a good chunk of them. Then the same stronk independent women refuse to settle down and have children at a reasonable age, keep studying, building their careers, optionally ride lots of dicks, then have children at thirty-something and act surprised when they have assburgers.
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No.19718
>>19716
>There's always been sluts and attention whores and cheaters and backstabbers
Law of averages, seems like there are a higher concentration of them now than before. Or at least they feel less insecure about doing stuff like that.
>Regardless, the vast majority of women aren't Instagram thots
They still sleep around, no? Just because they don't consider themselves whores, doesn't mean they aren't.
>and don't even consider themselves feminists
Depends on how you word it, really. I've met a lot of women that act like "misogyny" is alive and kicking.
>Just talk to people like they are human beings and maybe you'll meet someone you like and who likes you back
Considering current standards, I probably wouldn't make the cut. And even if I did manage to find someone, I'd be paranoid as fuck about if she's doing shit behind my back. Guess what, whores look like everyone else.
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No.19719
>>19718
>>19717
Ok well I guess don't go out and meet people. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Have you both just given up and accepted you'll be alone forever then? Do you believe there's non "modern women" out there churning butter in a country kitchen just dreaming of being swept away to trad land? How will you get her? What do you have to offer her? And I mean in the here and now, not in a fantasy land where someday you'll be /fit/ and /biz/. I'm genuinely curious. Because in the past men had financial security, careers, land, inheritance, etc. to offer a virgin bride. Men highly value virginity, so what does the trad virgin get of high value in return from the modern man if he no longer has those things? A Steam library with 1000+ games? Rare Pepes?
I'm being somewhat cheeky but am genuinely curious. Usually paired with the /pol/esque talking points you raise is a conversation about how women largely follow the lead of men (I don't disagree tbh). What does that say about how women act today then? From where I stand men largely reinforce and encourage all the things you criticize about women. What's the solution then? One doesn't exist without the other in some vacuum. Men and women are inexorably linked and act upon each other with varying degrees of influence and have throughout history, like tipping scales from side to side. I have more questions but I don't want to overload the conversation.
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No.19720
>>19719
>Have you both just given up and accepted you'll be alone forever then?
Not really, I'm open for something happening.
>Do you believe there's non "modern women" out there churning butter in a country kitchen just dreaming of being swept away to trad land?
As much as a questing beast or unicorn leaning down to drink by a brook where people could see it.
>How will you get her?
Wouldn't know, was never taught how. Was always encouraged to get an education first, and they expected me to learn normally.
>What do you have to offer her?
Companionship, something that any spineless welp could offer up.
>Men highly value virginity, so what does the trad virgin get of high value in return from the modern man if he no longer has those things?
<not sleeping around is worth a fortune
Get off your high horse. Now
>What does that say about how women act today then?
Socially castrated men encouraging women to take more masculine roles in their stead.
>From where I stand men largely reinforce and encourage all the things you criticize about women.
And I chastise them for it. What did I say about pathetic little betas who are so fucking starved for attention they'll get with a living piece of fuckmeat for a minute chance at companionship. I legit hope they never reproduce, less contamination.
>What's the solution then? One doesn't exist without the other in some vacuum.
I think you answered your own question.
>Men and women are inexorably linked and act upon each other with varying degrees of influence and have throughout history, like tipping scales from side to side
Like I said, I blame those sub-male creatures for idolizing women, regardless of their political leanings. You don't get to be an equal and a goddess at the same time.
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No.19722
And a friendly reminder that nu-males are just gal-pals with dicks. Women want success, not submission.
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No.19723
>>19720
>not sleeping around is worth a fortune
Yeah I didn't say that nor do I believe that. I'm posing questions pertaining to the idea that women should shirk modernity for tradition. Then again didn't some woman sell her virginity for 2 million in an online auction last year or something? My point was that marriage was mainly transactional no? Virginity and youth for stability. Children/heirs for shelter and security. There's lots of reasons why this isn't the case anymore in the West and those can be debated forever in their own right. But why should women, and men for that matter, be expected to uphold the old order when the foundation for those things (morally, legally, socially, etc.) barely exist anymore? You can argue for their merits but you'd still be swimming against the tide of never ending change.
Just to be clear here, I'm not arguing in favor of any of this shit. But I see this "modern woman" debate all over the boards and it usually ends with "Yeah soyboy cucks and thots are the worst am I right?." I suppose acknowledgement is the first step but I'm curious what is beyond that, if anything.
In my own opinion these things rubber band throughout history. Return to traditionalism and cultural homogenization is inevitable but another round of radical individualism and progressive change will follow and there will be periods of a bit of both in between the cycles. I think we're entering that stage now. The in-between bit I mean ;). Transgenderism taking hold is literally the death knell of a decadent, self absorbed society (which no doubt we are), so it's coming and probably within our lifetimes for sure. Usually accompanied by war. But I digress. Point is, trad qt 3.14's coming to a village near you after the nuclear firestorm subsides.
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No.19724
>>19723
I'm really not sure if it's "traditional," now that I think about it, it's just "not a complete whore." I think it stems from a lot of insecurities they developed throughout their lives relating to dating and such, and greentexts only make it worse.
And for those that really wanna go back to tradition, just want the societal rot to cease, or at least slow down enough to let people savor their time before shit changes again.
<have to endure a nuclear firestorm to get a decent wife
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No.19727
>>19719
I am fit and successful in business and with money.
I plan on getting a south east asian, eastern european, or even middle eastern wife (i am starting to become Muslim).
I dont consider western "women" to be women anynore, since they actively try to not be women!
Cooking, cleaning, laundry, raising children, getting married etc
They are all postmodern feminists. They are going against nature and have no idea why they are miserable.
The desire to reproduce drives men and so we work hard on ourselves so we end up fit/health and with a future/success.
But women dont want that. Women would rather go for an alcoholic/heroin addict who drives a motorcycle and is unemployed. Women only want to stop being sluts once they hit the wall and realise their looks are fading. Then its like musical chairs where they quickly try to grab any relatively successful man they can so they can start a family (thus not appearing like failures to their friends and family). However the good men have already settled down or they do not want some old slut. The only men left are losers. The women who marries them will never be attracted to them, she is just settling, and so she will eventually cheat. The guy will find out and then ether he will divorce her or she will resent him more for not leaving (confirmation he is a complete loser, embarrassing to her status that that is who she has ended up with). She will thus keep cheating until he does divorce.
I want a family more than anything else now. But western "women" dont. So i will get a wife from an eastern country who is traditional.
I dont even know what western women bring to the table anymore.
I know what i bring, i am successful with a future, confident and attractive.
What does a western women do?
They only settle down when their looks fade. They refuse to cook, clean and do laundry etc (plus we have or will have robots soon to do that).
I have tried loving women, it doesnt work and so i gave up on that. Women only respond to the "power and control domestoc abuse circle". I dont want to treat women that way, but its what they want.
I want a normal, traditional women.
I will find marriage maybe in south east asia. Or i will go to Afghanistan and buy some goats and trade them for a women.
And not so she can become some sex slave that feminists think happenes. But that so i can have a wife, a normal relationship. A relationship where i dont have to "game" her with push/pull everyday like im in a club and worry she might wonder off an fuck some guy who is "in a band" (unemployed) with tattoos and sells weed or something.
I just want a wife and children.
I have given up completely on western women, i dont even look at them anymore (this unfortunately makes them attracted to me, pathetic)
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No.19728
>>19727
Too much bait for this board.
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No.19729
>>19727
>(i am starting to become Muslim).
Good luck
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No.19731
>>19729
>women must wear a burka (cant go around exposing themselves)
>women cant leave the house unless a male relatove walks them (like a dog, so that they dont go around fucking everything)
>whores are stoned to death
>get to slaughter filthy normies (kufr)
I love Islam
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No.19732
>>19728
Indeed lol. Try not to cut yourself on his edge.
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No.19733
>>19732
Oh I'm bleeding to death over here.
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No.19734
>>19719
>Do you believe there's non "modern women" out there
I don't live in the first world, but I study with many first worlders at my uni, that's where all the negative experiences come from. The local girls aren't great, but they're a lot better.
>How will you get her? What do you have to offer her?
I'm from a well-off family, finishing university in a very good field, effectively guaranteed to not have money issues in the future. So financial security, career, land, inheritance are checked. I don't have any mental or physical disorders. On the downside, introvert, not particularly /fit/, dislike spontaneity, and don't like bothering random women I barely know by trying to pick them up, hence virgin. Plus I don't particularly like conservative traditional women, which just makes it harder.
The nips have the right idea, even if their execution is lackluster. A competent, strong woman who has no issues being reliant or just pretending to be reliant on his man to humor him, that's the ideal. The shitty liberal modern women are the absolute polar opposite, traditional women are a bit closer to the ideal, but still quite a way off.
>From where I stand men largely reinforce and encourage all the things you criticize about women.
They do, men are obviously at fault too, it just wasn't in the scope of my other post. Hell, the way women act is almost entirely the fault of men at its roots, but on this level things start to get really complicated. It just boils down to people always painting with wide brushes - some men abused some women > society reacts by trying to protect women by laws and a shift in acceptable behavior > produces weak pussywhipped men and trashy women. The problem was caused by a too non-specific, one-sided approach to solving a problem, and now present-day politics is even more like that, people are even more likely to try to solve problems by one-sided approaches, dismissing or outright banning discussion of many of the details of the problem, see trannies.
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No.19735
>>19734
>I'm from a well-off family, finishing university in a very good field, effectively guaranteed to not have money issues in the future.
Congrats, so are most women nowadays. Seriously, it's like they want the sexes to bicker
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No.19749
>>17167
I mean, I really don't believe in leagues. This may sound like virtue signalling but I really mean it when I say I don't care too much how someone looks if they are sweet to me and loyal and good hubby material I will marry them
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No.19763
>>19749
You're going to make someone very happy, anon.
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No.19959
>>19603
I wanted to reply to my original post and update the Situation. I don't know if anyone cares, but I kind of felt like it.
I've made some really good progress with everything, although not in ways I hoped I would back then. Nevertheless, I'm probably happier and less full of worry than I was before.
I've focused more on my friendships with people and tried to strengthen those friendships by spending more time with them and generally treating them to some nice things every now and then.
I've been on a date, but it didn't really work out well enough for a second time.
It doesn't seem to bother me as much as it used to though, I think mostly because of the amount of time I spend talking with people now. A lot of them are online but they're all close enough to visit generally, and the few IRL friends I have now like to invite me to things after I took a bit more initiative and didn't shy away from it all.
I started socialising a lot more on the Internet, forming friendships and meeting a surprising amount of people from Luxembourg online, on halfchan.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, things are going good and I've gotten my friendships to work better and don't feel the immediate need for a significant other anymore. I would still like one, but it's pretty low on my list now.
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No.19961
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No.19993
Got some new books in, this one's some weird spec-evo manga
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No.20140
Argie boy here and i Need an advice.
Im looking for a girl in my country the problem is that every girl i currently found is a slut or a fucking degenerate. Feminism and all the lefty shit totally destroyed the society we got. So… What should i do? I really want a typical /pol/ Traditional girl that valores herself, is intelligent and blah blah blah… But… It looks like they are not existent in here…
Should i just give up and start dating the whores? They are the only ones that at least hit on me :c
I dont want to have mutt babys :c
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No.20157
what do you make of those 'photos you're not meant to share thread', 'facebook/ig fap thread', 'creepshot thread', etc?
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No.20158
>>20157
Honestly, it isn't beyond girls to also post other thots in those threads as revenge or something, just go to lolcow and you can see the petty behaviour that some females stoop down to.
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No.20197
i just learned that females arent capable of loving a man. why dont you fuckers speak up about that instead of letting the lie of romance live on?
evil cunts
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No.20198
>>20197
Control your own horny levels, lest you fall with others who cannot control their own.
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No.20212
If I was to post a pic of me would you femanons give me an honest rate? Tell me what I can approve on to get more attention from you ect..?
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No.20213
>>20212
And while you're at it, girls, rate me too please. Pic relate.
Yeah, I know I'm kinda weird, don't roast me too hard uwu.
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No.20235
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No.20613
Wtf are you guys actually girls wtf
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No.20648
If I have relatively nothing to offer but my own love in a relationship is that enough, or should I wait until I can offer more? I have a job, I enjoy my hobbies, and am working towards building a future for myself independently, but those don't really give me anything to offer if I were to pursue a relationship.
Also, is being short (5'4) a big deal breaker? I don't mind being short, but my friends tell me that my options are very limited because of it.
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No.20650
>>20648
>If I have relatively nothing to offer but my own love in a relationship
>I have a job, I enjoy my hobbies, and am working towards building a future for myself independently
You know those are all things girls like, right?
What would you offer, otherwise? What's that thing you think you're lacking?
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No.20658
>>6588
If there is really any femanon here I want you to be sincere when answering my questions and not simply answer to give me hope. If you aren't a biologically female please refrain from answering, If I wanted answers from men I would be on, cutemale, gay, lgbt or w/e name these board have now, not here.
I am a 20 something year old with serious confidence problems among other things. These confidence problems come(I believe) from when I was a kid. I had a "girlfriend" at the time if you could even call it as such(she was older than me, both of us were underage not even teenagers at that time). After some time she left me for another older guy(teenager) simply because he had a bigger dick. Now, over a decade latter I still can't get over that. Because of what happened with that girl when I was young I avoided being anything more than friends with any girls, being poor also played a a big part of these decisions. I don't deny that I was kinda autistic while growing up(may still be the case) but that din't stop me from being invited to new year parties, trips and b day parties by girls. In my circle of friends there would be girls who would sit on my lap, laugh at my good or bad jokes, tell me that I look "handsome" when I actually put effort in to how I looked, that would walk with me to HS and so on. I would be the first to recognize that I am under average when it comes to my body(5 foot 8 or 175 cm tall, and about 13 cm or 5 inch down there) but I am quite sure my autism isn't the problem as I never hinted to any of this to any of the girls I have ever talked with. What is going on? Do they smell my insecurity and small dick? How comes that I am still a virgin and kiss less? I mean that wouldn't be the problem it it was out of my own choice but it has never come down to that.
t. europoor, ESL
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No.20671
>>20650
>You know those are all things girls like, right?
>What would you offer, otherwise? What's that thing you think you're lacking?
wow great insight. right up there with "just be yourself"
women want to be with a man who will increase the woman's social status. classic means to this end are a big house, fast car, access to drugs, impressive job title, celebrity status, physical attractiveness, ability to create attractive offspring, and gifts of jewelry/flowers/things that can be shown off
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No.20672
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No.20679
>>6588
What's the significance of your name as Snailgirl? Does it have any relation to the snail man in Gezebelle Gaburgably songs? I assume no but as a shot in the dark I wanted to check.
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No.20681
>>20672
Is it? I have all of those things but they've done a very questionable amount in dating life. Literally it's a pretty respectable job where either people don't know what it is or they say "Oh you must be smart" when they hear it. Regarding the rest it's similar, I have pretty decent hobbies from semi-intense sports to technical hobbies, working towards financial independence through owning a few properties. I guess it helps a little as in it's something to talk about, and I definitely don't boast about it on dates and only really bring it up if questioned about it, but next to a homeless person women tend to pick the homeless person.
I don't mean to pile on the incel talk because I'm sure these forums get it a lot, but there's a pretty decent divide in people's experiences that should be resolved.
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No.20682
>>20679
Accidentally posted as Femanon
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No.20684
>>20679
Snailgirl vanished more than 3 years ago. Current board owner is >>>16756
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No.20686
>>20672
>incel logic
do you realize you are proving me right?
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No.20687
Why are #notall BUT MOST wamen fundamentally prejudiced against feminine, submissive men? Especially considering that you yourselves are all submissive, what a joke. And then you'll even lie and deny to yourselves and others that this happens to be true. The biological sex of 'hypocrisy' and 'bigotry' and 'deceit.' Such a disgrace. We're not living in the stone ages anymore - maybe it's time to 'man up' and allow your intellect to supersede your maternal instinct? But no, you are too weak to manage to do that nor do you hold any desire to whatsoever. So much for being strong and independent, and equal, and all that nonsense, huh?
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No.20688
>>20686
>>20681
My point is that the "status" you talk about isn't much more important for many girls than your mental and physical health. Your priorities are all wrong.
While it's true some may be into you for your possessions, I'm sure no one here would want such a vapid excuse for a relationship.
With that in mind, given the scope is finding a "Honest Girl that Loves Me for Mine Heart", you're not going to find her by getting rich. Maybe by getting famous, you might, since that extends the scope of your "search" but that's an indirect consequence, and you might just as well try to extend the range of your search on your own to begin with.
That's right, the secret to find a girlfriend is to look for one. You assholes had to make me spell it out for ya.
Now get out.
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No.20848
Hi Girls. So, I have a little confession: I'm a really lovely person IRL, but a massive pervert at heart: I like watching sexy, beautiful adult women wetting themselves, squirting everywhere with cum-filled pussies, and in particular wearing & wetting diapers. My views aren't alone – look at the /abdl section of this site.
What do you think when you read that, about my sexual fetish? Massive peeeerv, or not to weird? Would you partake for love?
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No.20851
Since this was meant to be a board for females I planned on moving to nofap, not because I have a fap addiction (I don't) but because I thought that my posts about casual sex being disgusting and evil and other related topics would be accepted there; however, I soon found that nofap was even deader then this board, so I returned here.
How many communities are there that accept the view that love, not fake love but real love, is an important thing to consider before having sex. How many online communities take seriously the concept that personality is more important than physical appearance? Not many. Their are probably dozens of people who are going to read my posts and say "Incel Hating Guy is a total loser for thinking that casual sex is bad". I feel that a female dominated community is more likely to take my rants seriously.
End of rant.
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No.20853
looking through old posts
>>18676
That is probably the most tragic story I've read all day.
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No.20878
Females, hypothetically speaking, how would you react if a man who was close to you revealed he likes little girls?
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No.20897
The tranny board
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No.20902
I really like women. I have nothing else to say.
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No.20927
>>20878
i'd be insecure because i am an old hag
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No.20951
>what's this type of top called?
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