/fringe/ - Fringe

>>126074

Now is time for a voice of reason. A voice of justice. And a voice for those who have been lost and confused by the rhetoric you spew and premote here. You have done nothing, Wynn, but attract the lowliest here to battle your ever-complex web of lies. You wont last long in my face. For I am the ONE AND ONLY…

PUNISHED DRUID.

You now face that which you should fear most. But I'm betting you're ignorant to my name.

Let me remind you by saying… LOYAL LADS OF THE BOND…

I think you get the picture. Now die in the hole you've dug, foul man. You are not worth even the shit from the bottom of my boot.

>>126074

>>126075

When Epyc Wynn first appeared I have basically said the same as you say now but it doesn't matter. He just keeps going and no BO or anybody would do something about it. It is natural for such maggots as Wynn to appear and feed off a rotten husk…that rotten husk being 8ch/fringe. He is a symptom but nor the root cause.

>>126079

>but here you tell me to roll over like a dog

No, do what you must.

Technically this breaks rules 3 and 6 but he'd just deny it's a shitpost and cause a massive autism fuss if he was banned for that and rule 6 never gets enforced. People would complain less about the board if the rules were a bit better.

I know this is just trolling, but I have found ritual ejaculation to be a good way for noobs to eject stagnant energies they have not been able to transmute.

I haven't jacked off in three months and in consequence learned japanese. I am immortal, mortals know the bounds set by their ignorance. Stand in fear and aw to the glory of God, who stands on His to bare witness to the minds of the few who defy Him. They do not know, his Grace so great as to Bless their souls, his Wrath so bountiful as to destroy all that defy Him. By consequence, japanese is my fruit, and by consequence my aims be laid.

>>126089

Tadaima

I'm doing nofap and learning japanese too. Keep it up bro you are going the way of the master race

>>126129

Wise one, explain to me the functions of the earth, from whence the sun has come and where the moon has gone, and of the stars, their journeys across the planes, tell me of these things. With great accuracy I have made quick strides to defeat, for I have lost everything in my pursuit of nothing, and for this I am granted the chance to ask once again: what is it that I have desired? That question brings one answer, and that is truth. If it is truth I desire, then there is no man greater than the Wise, and if it defeat, there is no giver greater than the Wise. I ask you, tell me of the stars, of the rotations of the earth, and the sweet harmonics that they give us. Tell me, what of the ground, of the earth, what seeds they bear and of what nature they have come from. Tell me, what is the fate of those who seek but do not find, for I'm afraid I have yet not find a man such as you. And I'm afraid, more than anything, that the wisdom I seek is not within your cup.

>>126133

Wise man, what difference is there between my perception and this reality?

>>126147

A framework isn't the same as an actuality, just as a potential isn't an actual, so any words used to define and categorize this reality are by their nature already false and defined under a specific circumstance. You might say, until the actual has been achieved there can be no potential, but in that sense you would not know anything until your end has been reached. So, in short, I'm saying that you're wrong on the most fundamental level.

Excercising your will power by dominating your urges is far more satisfying than masturbation. Pussy.

>>126158

>I miss the old days of fringe

<Does nothing about it

You only have yourself to blame. Else we'd not being seeing threads that encourage you to jack-off, created by bullshit occultists. Among many other threads posted by mental patients with internet access.

>>126162

I just fapped to your post. Enjoy.

>>126153

Not at all, since you've relied on others to define reality for you. You've not attempted to understand it yourself using your own reasoning. So, it's flawed from the beginning since you have no real understanding of what you're talking about.

>>126162

>You only have yourself to blame.

How so? Fringe was never that good. Even when it first started it was mediocre at best. Is it really worth to put your effort and energy into this place and play the janitor or kindergarden teacher here?

There is an amazing library here. People just need to read the books and turn their brain on but only very few do this. For every quality post you make to answer a question or help someone out there will be multiple other posts and threads that spread complete disinformation and degeneracy.

Besides, the new guys who come here and wanna learn…who are most of them anyway? Mundanes. They seem like they wanna learn at first, but later almost everyone proves to be a degenerate. Most will only care about some stupid ass consipracy theories, succubus and roleplaying. The rare true student with potential for enlightenment will read the books, meditate and start ascending by himself. If I ever should see such a student I will offer my time and energy to help him as much as I can. For all others it's wasted.

It's just an imageboard after all. Relax and practice some detachment. Everything comes and goes and fringe was a decent thing but now I feel like it's time to move on. Chill out and wait for what happens next…meditate more.

>bullshit occultists

That's a title even too good for Wynn.

>>126071

>No Nut November, is a cheap feminazi tactic to destroy masculinity by removing your main source of enjoyment

>your main source of enjoyment

Absolutely fucking pathetic. It's extremely rare that I come to /fringe/ and even rarer when I make a post but this was just so incredibly weak and contemptible. OP is a prime example of why you shouldn't masturbate or you'll end up browsing this shithole 24 hours a day, making the same posts and lame edited images constantly yet never experience any levels of attainment.

If tugging on your dick for 5 minutes is the apex of your life experience then you are far beyond merely broken.

>>126167

The library here is garbage, spend your time elsewhere. You won't find enlightenment here, rather you're blind to where it is. You will never find what you look for if you think that you can find it in a book. Meditation by itself does nothing, and isn't even a defined word. Meditation originally meant one thing: contemplation. If you don't have the mind to contemplate, then you don't have the mind to understand any of this. Someone with the ability to enlighten doesn't need to read, or listen to anyone, all he needs is to look at nature. He bases himself off of Nature and works with Nature, never against it. All the information in the world can be presented to you in a simple book and you wouldn't know where to begin, because lacking the necessary endowments no one can achieve anything of any note. Ascension is illogical. In order to accept the logical, one must think in terms of the illogical.

Besides, /fringe/ wasn't made to serve as a medium for communication between mundanes. It's a stepping stone so that the people who are capable of seeing beyond the physical can have a place to study.

>>126071

a nigga be wrong

>>126172

>Besides, /fringe/ wasn't made to serve as a medium for communication between mundanes. It's a stepping stone so that the people who are capable of seeing beyond the physical can have a place to study.

I agree and that's how I see it too.

>The library here is garbage yada yada…

Contradicting yourself much? This one should be banned for "dumb" and calling Wynn "Wise one".

>>126189

He's a narcissist. Loosh is a synonym for narcissistic supply.

>>126183

Get as much information in your head, throw your computer in the trash, and then go to a forest and figure things out yourself. Everything, absolutely everything is full of disinformation. Figure it out yourself, no one can teach you these things. If you're here, at least, that means no one is willing to teach you.

If masturbation means directing some portion of my desire-energy towards something other than what is the proper focus of my mental energies than obviously I must abstain.

If you are very engaged in some work you forget about everything other than that work.

I do not want to start masturbating just to please you OP. I have conscious control over my body anyways and can command a massive flood of euphoria at will whenever I like. I can also masturbate and cum without the slightest feeling of pleasure such is my control. The mental states and physiological states are under my control.

Anyways, like a week ago a man said basically the same shit as you but said it to me in person, and so I decided to humor him and masturbate just hours later when I got home. Then I went about my life indifferent as usual.

Masturbation is quite meaningless to me.

>>126074

Me the adept praying that any harm-thoughts be converted into thoughts of reform and love.

>>126084

Rule 5 is being broken all over this thread, sigh.

>>126085

Oh I do this sometimes for that very purpose.

>>126167

The only sadness I feel concerning this board right now is that some are unable to enjoy it because it's not meeting their expectations but that is not the fault of the board.

I am one of those who just reads the books and mostly talks to God. I love this board and check in on it from time to time but whereas long ago I used to read every single thread and post on here, now I just randomly jump in for a few hours, then leave and go back to reading and to practice and don't come back until weeks or months later. I pray for the board that people will use it and benefit from it and that the various roles (teacher, student, etc.) will continue to be filled by people who yearn to do those things. I myself can only tell people the same concepts and make the same reading suggestions over and over so many times before I tire of it and wish someone else would do it in my place. I go to /fringe/ less and less not because the board quality has supposedly dived or anything but because I don't have as great of a need for it. I have found god, I have found real life practitioners, I have developed myself, and I am far along the path where I can say I have already demonstrated for so many, taught so many, inspired so many, and done so much that I have other matters now that are my focus and which I don't like to deviate from.

Life is a ladder. Whatever you do for someone else, there's an endless number of other persons just like them and beneath them, all at various stages of development. You show off remote viewing for someone, they are convinced and amazed (and other reactions), and then the next random anonymous stranger comes along demanding you do the whole thing over for them as well, and if you repeat it then another one comes along, and so on it goes forever. I'd prefer that the first guy I demonstrated would have been so inspired as to learn it himself, then teach others. In that I have done my work and can move on. There are however quite a few people in this world who, after seeing miracles, carry on without much changing in their life at all.

One man can make some observation that a thousand other people have, but for him that particular observation will be earthshaking, a complete revolution. It will fundamentally change him and set him on a new direction in life. It could be like that moment Evola talks about in the mountains. Yet for so many other people, their desires are so low, that they are content to be subhuman the rest of their current incarnation and that scene that so shook one man does not really register much of an impression in the mind of another.

Anyways my only wish concerning /fringe/ is it continues to have at least a few people on it who love it, who benefit from it, and who enjoy and live out its possibilities. I myself have other matters to attend to in my life to spend as much time as I used to, matters which hold a higher priority for me. I should add also that every visit here I feel the energy and thoughts of the users here and it's quite a storm, and it jostles me. Many well advanced mystics intentionally retreat into the wilderness, into obscurity, for the very reason of their mental sensitivity being unable to handle the life in the more populated areas. It's not that I can't endure being around people and taking in so much but I prefer to resonate on my own native plane of activity and not in the lower and filthier planes that I only visit for a short while and only out of a sense of compassion for those down there.

>>126168

All of this. This is just the nature of the world though. Those who talk the most and are active the most in a place like this and who give it such a sense of activity and life must by necessity be mainly those who are lost, those who are questioning, and those whose attainments are recent (and so they are newly filled with a desire to share). Everything grows old though. They are a necessary part of the ecosystem of imageboards, although /fringe/ does in fact have a tremendous number of users who rarely and very infrequently post, but because there's so many it can still have a lot of new content all the time.

Those who are angry about this may as well be angry not with the board, not with the moderation, nor with the users; but with reality itself.

>>126172

The libraries are not garbage they are very useful. Obviously you need critical thinking skills and analysis like Tom Montalk talks about but the material in the libraries provides much with which to productively engage oneself in contemplation. The board and the libraries are all good and serve their purpose, that some people are beyond being able to use it properly, says more about those persons. You may as well say the internet is garbage. It's not. In the hands of one person it's used for mind-numbing stupidity like sitting in some chatroom all day and jerking off while talking about whatever shit mundanes talk about, in the hands of another it's an amazing wealth of information and potential.

>>126199

Name one bit of disinformation in this book: http://www.yogebooks.com/english/atkinson/1922personalpower.pdf

Good luck. I'll be waiting. If you can find even one thing that is wrong in that book, that isn't true, I will be grateful for your revelation.

Hard Mode: You must find something wrong in Volumes 1 through 11. No commenting on the material in Volume 12 (which is what this particular thread is related to).

>>126247

Removing the garbage around gold nuggets isn't glorious work, considering you're sitting on a floating golden nugget in space.

>>126248

You want me to read a whole book? Wow, that's great. Just for the curiosity of asking someone to read a whole book, a book that I have no real understanding of, to point out the disinformation, I'll do it. It's a novelty, to ask that question. I applaud the joke. I'll only read a few pages, or a few chapters if the book has some information that is really enthralling, but otherwise you will get the same.

First is the separation of the self by the self, for the self in the epilogue. It is not useful, and is in fact confusing. If you have the aspect of the warrior, then you are the warrior. Second, personal power is derived by God. Not God in the christian sense but in the metaphysical, platonic sense. As the creator. One doesn't necessarily develop this themselves, although they certainly can, but it is given by entities who actually know what they're doing. That's not to say that you can just lie down and do nothing for eternity and get rewards. Third, everyone can manifest anything in the world. When you carve a spoon from wood you're manifesting the spiritual concept of a spoon into the physical world. This is undeniable. Fourth, I is not necessarily me. We are composed of spirits, we are the master spirit, and in the same we are the composition of a greater cosmic spirit. I am that spirit, but by definition I'm not. So there is no master Self. And it's not provable that I exist to begin with, and by all categorizations of reason and logic, I do not exist. It can't be proven, neither spiritually, logically, intuitively, in any capacity I do not exist.

This isn't denying existence, but denying existence as autonomous to who I am. I've developed a monistic mode of thinking, so keep that in mind when I say this: if I am that which exists, and if that which exists can't possibly exist, then I do not exist within existence.

Fifth, all compositions that make up this non-existence, which I will from now on call the eminent existence, are by definition me, and all things that contain me exist as me, and are therefore holographic. There is no use of separating conditions. There are no differences between the physical and the spiritual. I won't comment on chapter 4, since it's all garbage. If control is the definition, then any act of control is conscious, and therefore there is no need to differentiate what is being controlled. Same principle applies for chapter 5, it's just expounding on that basic concept. Chapter 6, all eminent existence is by definition the loss of power and not the power in itself.

The rest of the book is just flights of fancy. If you're goal is to become one with God then all you have to do is act with His purpose. All nature seeks to become One with Him, so do that. You don't do it, just as you don't lift yourself by the laces of your boots. The greatest disinformation in this book is the sterilization of spiritual matters into neatly packed, easily understood pieces of information that anyone can understand, not because it's logical and intuitive but because it's so bland that a dog can practice it by accident. In fact, dogs do. Everyone does. It's the fact that everyone has read this book that has made this world the way it is now. It is not natural, and is in fact removed from the natural.

I hope you find all this as shallow nitpicking, because that is what it is. Since I'm not interested in the book I can't engage it in any manner that is productive. Throw it on the fire and claim it the work of the devil, that is what I do. The most important concept to understand, the message of what I'm saying is this: the point of Gnosis is to transfer one flame, from one candle, to the next. Have someone else light that flame for you, and you will have all the world on the palms of your hand. The point is to get all the mechanisms in your head as fast as possible, then disregarding everything for the purpose of purifying these mechanisms. This is a long process, and the body is full of impurity. Look beyond this realm and these words and you will see true reality.

>>126253

I'm glad there are still people who know what's what in here.

>>126259

I don't know anything, and am perhaps the greatest fool of the ages.

>>126260

If you want that title you'll have to wrestle me for it.

>>126264

Define your own importance.

>>126266

You are a nigger.

not jacking off made me impotent, jackig off is the only thing that kept me thinking about sex. maybe it's good if you don't want to be intimate, but when I'm not masturbating daily I forget about lust but still think about loneliness and desire companionship. It isn't for me.

>>126266

Behold the true face of this gay nigger in plain english. He is slave to his emotions and must maintain this particular belief at all costs.

>>126268

Notice how he abandons the truth to suit his pathology. It's not merely a failed joke. This isn't a game for him. He must do this. Every single post is this warping of reality to fit the premise that he must be better that you.

I don't know what to do for him. I've only seen abject failure cure people of this need to lie.

Enjoy rotting your brain and messing with your reward system. Masturbation is a drug.

>>126271

Nice reality warp. You are a liar and emotional parasite, dragging others down for temporary emotional relief. Any socially conscious mod would instantly ban your retarded ass.

>>126275

All well and good but you are simply out of tact here. It seems you do not understand in what place you are to begin with. In fact you are very lucky that you are tolerated here this much and left spiritually unattacked and uncursed. Probably because any real wizard has given up this board by now.

Even if you went into a buddhist monastery and started to preach that their spirituality isn't real and they should masturbate you would be beaten bloody by the monks or at least thrown out and banned for good.

>at no point have I gone out of my way to attack users of this board

Shit like this thread is to be considered an attack. You are completely oblivious to spiritual and occult ways, the board culture and the philosophy going on here. Sooner or later some wizard might smack you for real since you just keep at spreading your nonsense…but maybe this is exactly what you need.

Get right on listening to this guy getting raped by demons Lol what a fag.

Everyone has to masturbate so he feels better about being a genetic failure incapable of being desired by a woman or he has big nose or is an antropomorphic Roach

Just leave the board or the earth lol

>>126276

>implying any real wizard would be as triggered as you are by him

You just insulted yourself.

>>126278

Did you put any thought at all into your post?

>>126275

>/fringe/ is nothing more than a for-funsies romping grounds for me. I know most of you are full of shit,

>I am a sirloin steak while this board is an Arby's.

>Embrace the fact magic is bullshit.

You really are a delusional gamma. You contradict every other post trying to play victim now. You have never fooled anyone with this bullshit. Everyone knows what you are; there are only so many personality types. Give up the lies and delusions.

You should be banned. If you watch the video, you'll know your existence is unbearable to any remotely functioning human, and you should leave. You cannot fix yourself in the company of others due to the compulsive lies and delusions they provoke in you.

>>126274

>>126275

I must emphasize that you should leave. You are far more damaging than any bullshit about censorship. People cannot bear to post their thoughts around you or have their work associated with you.

Not banning this guy is cucked. It's quite obvious that he's using this board maliciously to charge his sigil.

>>126270

It's actually sad really, his constant desire for the feeling of superiority means he can't ever be reasoned with. He's lost inside his own gate of illusion, the result of failed initiation. The extent of his philosophy extends to being contrarian and claiming that he's right, for it makes him feel smarter than his perceived majority. He wears this on his sleeve, which is why he posts with an avatar, so that everybody knows that he's the one who is making these claims. The worst thing is that I think he believes the contrarian bullshit he spouts. His superiority complex stops him from questioning himself. I feel bad for him.

>>126286

Magic is personal, if you don't see how it's possible then no one can show you how it's possible. Synthesizing your own understanding is more valuable than life itself. Your posts are only valuable in as much as they can be denied.

>>126286

All delusion from the lying narcissistic gamma. Fuck, man. Do you understand that nobody wants to deal with you? They just want to ask their questions, share once in a while, and be appreciated without some fucking narcissistic retard breathing on their necks. Do you understand how retarded you are? Can you picture doing this at a table of people? Nobody would put up with your shit in real life. You'd get stabbed and tossed in a dumpster and nobody would say a word.

>>126287

I don't feel bad for this retard at all. I want all the people he's driven away and all the people he's going to drive away at my disposal. He's limiting everyone's potential information exchange just to feel good for a few moments.

>>126291

Bring to me this science. I've yet to find it. You fail to realize that you're living in a delusion, no mainstream scientist knows what they're talking about. Those who've founded their religion admit to the fact that none of this is possible. Of course, it is possible, and it is logical, but it's so simple that no human mind can understand it. Those who were on the right track were electrical engineers and inventors, but they're all dead now. Electricity can't even exist according to consensus.

>>126291

You think you're an edgy scientist but your robotic data crunching hedonistic method of searching for truth is mislead. You are so quick to dismiss the human soul within you that you trigger even people that I would think would be harder to trigger than average here. you're seeking atleast in your own mind but to seek you must walk to truly find out. Basically you act like an ass pretending everyone else has the burden of proof because youre too much of a lazy turd to get up, read, try things yourself. you're asking for data but maybe you should try looking inside yourself for answers. Trust me you will not find them masturbating Lol. you're not really fooling anyone other than yourself.

If youre real listen if youre not then hahahah I cant believe you exist

>>126302

I think youre definitely a troll. Im not going to waste my effort trying to help someone who doesn't want to be helped.

If you think the material world is all there is then have fun. Stop replying

>>126302

I enjoy electrical theory, and I consider that inherently magical, so it depends on your perception of what's /fringe/. My realm of thought would more accurately be called neo-platonic/Advaita Vedanta. You're not looking for anything, just trying to smash your viewpoint and project everything that doesn't agree with your viewpoint as being automatically wrong. All magical proof could be likened to coincidence. Which is why you should focus on studying reality rather than studying the magical, but you'll soon find that the difference only exists in the mind. You either believe in magic or you don't, either way no one can help you in your search.

Perhaps you've been digging this hole of yours for so long that you're afraid of leaving it.

>>126313

>I enjoy electrical theory

Hey me too, if I ever find where he lives I am going to blow every lightbulb in his house so he can understand magic kek.

What a shitshow

>>126264

Care to explsin everything you know sbout buddhism so far?

"oh no I need to sacrifice my entire being so that a woman is there to provide me with one of my biological needs! Then I can work 9-5 5 days a week while raising more parasites then die, oh wait ehats this an ass on the internet? *Ejaculates* wow cool back to being god fuck that fake ass love shit its just a chemical reaction that will be replaced by drugs eventually and if I want a fuck for ol times sake I can bang a robot who doesnt smell like hpv" - Oprah Winfrey

>>126395

>word salad

You sure proved us wrong with your graphorrhea, schizo.

Once I started experiencing deeper, more advanced aspects of occultism I started going insane. I am talking real shit, synched everyday, all is mind, collective concious. I got a feeling it was from the fact that I was masturbating too much making me mentally weak to handle what I was seeing. I have yet to quit masturbating and see what happens but I have read insanity is caused by not conserving sexual energy.

>5. Respect anonymity. No identifying posts.

This thread is a pretty good case for a repeated violation of rule 5.

>>126609

Vol here. I was told not to enforce that rule.

>>126626

Why then does it exist? Some kind of tricky wizard thing?

>>127673

It was created for a specific person (who will be obvious if you've been here for more than a couple months) who doesn't really post here anymore. The flag rule isn't meant to be enforced either. I think it's a bit of a dumb set of rules, but the board would still be slow and of varying quality if we did change them (at least to some degree), so I'm personally not that concerned. I don't even know who runs the board anymore anyway, so if you wanted to actually start some kind of discussion about the rules (in a thread for which the discussion would actually be on-topic, i.e. not this one), I wouldn't know who to address it to if I were any of you who think there are flaws to the rules such as particular lolcow-candidates who bring nothing of value to the board being allowed to shit it up for years.

>>126071

this

The benefits of nofap seem to be most pronounced in the first month, or more like first weeks. I found after a while the hype and extra energy and confidence just dies off (makes sense cus your testo production comes to a halt cus you are not sexually active now which for nature is the same as if you are dead) and in fact you might even feel more tired and depressed than before. At this point I can only doubt permanent celibacy abd the effects of it. You start feeling shit again and just wish you could blow your load. Your hornyness and lust also die off but not completely. You always feel that your balls and prostate are full and even if you are not horny and even maybe cant even get aroused anymore by porn and chicks like earlier you still long for the relief of the pressure. It just sucks, I don't even wanna continue anymore past one month but I will. Maybe there is gold at the end of the rainbow after all, maybe you need to be at least one year celibate to notice it.

>>127716

Continue, and do pranayama breathing to move the sexual energy up and throughout your body, the test going down is bullshit science most likely funded by porn companies.

>>127717

No, it's actually very true unless you willingly want to be(come)/stay masculine. Since celibacy easily unlocks power you will gain more control over such things.

>>127717

So what will come out of it? After one month I still have not attained any spiritual powers, contact to spirits and wasn't even visited by the feared succubus whow ants to rape me and steal my energy. 3 months was my longest streak back then and even then I noticed no spiritual benefits. Now I have also read some reports from guys in the nofap community who have lasted one year or even longer and none of them reported any spiritual/occult benefits. They all only claimed that they just looked and felt better and had more confidence, but that's it. So this really begs the question why am I even doing it in the first place? I tought (and this is why I initially started with celibacy) you would get some occult powers, open your third eye, get a spirit-being-gf or at least get the ability to astral travel much easier. Now I don't know anymore. It seems like a meme.I don't like some bizarre stories from ancient yogis or buddhist monks who sat there and did nofap and meditated motionlessly for 5 years and then they dropped a nuke on them and they survived unharmed. Most of those stories are confirmed to be metaphors or confirmed fake. The ones that are still a mystery are also surely fake. Someone, if possible, should tell me what the actual endgame of this is and why I'm doing this. Has even anyone have real experience of major benefits of long term celibacy?

>>127719

Most nofap reports are bullshit, all of them either edge/still watch porn/have sex with women, or they give their energy to other harmful sources like alcoholism/drug addiction/emotionally triggering ideologies. Look into the great people that did long periods of nofap instead, davinci, tesla, freud, isaac newton, mike tyson.

>>127720

K thx, but I have one last question. What is your experience with celibacy and the benefits?

>Look into the great people that did long periods of nofap instead, davinci, tesla, freud, isaac newton, mike tyson.

Wordly success, power and achievement doesn't intrigue me. It is sad for me that only those examples came up because all I truely care for is to escape this matrix and achieve immortality of the soul. My interests are purely spiritual/occult. I was hoping all this harnessed sexual energy could evolve my spirit and unlock the astral for me.

>>127718

I'll check the video out now, thanks for the contribution. But I must say that even looking at the thumbnail of that yogi does instantly smell like meme and bullshit to me. Sorry for my bad english, still learning btw

>>127721

>What is your experience with celibacy and the benefits?

Much higher quality of thoughts, better concentration, much easier to meditate, becomes easier to feel the energy during energy work exercises, luck and attraction of positive things increases by a ton, faster muscle gains, more motivation and productivity, less anxiety and depression.

>>127722

How is it possible to have faster muscle gains if celibacy kills all your testosterone? Like the guy in the video said >>127718. Gymbros told me the more test, the more muscles. That's why you never skip legday btw, because leg exercises and especially squats release big amounts of test, since leg parts are huge muscles.

>>127723

Because celibacy doesn't kill your testosterone, it's bullshit science

>>127723

Do you think mike tyson had low test in his prime after being celibate(no sex, no fapping) for 5 years straight?

>>127724

>>127725

well thx for the answers. I didn't know about Tyson but thanks to you I will look closer into the topic and see if I can find anything about celibacy not affecting test myself. Or maybe he just fapped every 14 days to achieve the perfect test-cycle and use test spikes and highs the most effective way? I have read about that in nofap communities too.

If celibacy truely does not affect test then it is the ultimate way, but right now personally I feel like it does. Cheers mate

>>127720

>Most nofap reports are bullshit

>proceeds to list anecdotes

>>127725

Yeah, when he was 12 and then said he was an idiot for falling for that bullshit. What a great nofap occultist.

>>127728

Mike tyson never looked much into the methods of cultivation that were set upon him by his trainer cus d'amato, he just did what he was told to do.

I'm not sure why you greentexted the fact that he was 12 when he started to do it, considering he was the youngest heavyweight champion of all time, that would serve as further proof for how powerful celibacy is.

Also kys

>>127729

Kill yourself, bullshit occultist.

>>127731

not an argument

I read that the ideal form of abstinence to prepare ones mind for a ritual is best done over a period of nine days before the ritual occurrs. Even still, you can substitute fasting of any kind as well.

>>127734

>Even still, you can substitute fasting of any kind as well.

No you can't, there is such a thing as sexual energy

>>127735

never cared about fasting but this isn't the topic for it anyway…or is it? Since it's faggots useless thread I guess we can make of it what we want.

Anyway, did some research on Mike Tyson and on the topic of celibacy lowering test levels and of course all to no avail, much different theories and some obscure studies and researches that all contradict eachother. When I came upon an article that said you need to have sex frequently, best every day for high test I knew I needed to stop. I saw that mike tyson is a great example in the nofap community, but I believe >>127728 may be right and Mike only claims he did it for 5 years when he was very young and calls himself an idiot for doing it so he might as well imply that it's bullshit…or maybe not?

It's all a giant fuck, the only way to know it is to do it and live through it yourself. Therefore I become a test subject for myself. I just keep being celibate and keep lifting every week and see what happens. It's not that test is especially important for me, but my test levels dropping to the levels of little kids and me becomming completely emasculated is not something I desire. After the initial few weeks of nofap I already start to feel pretty low desptite avoiding all drugs, porn and frequent lifting. I may report my results in a few months, maybe even in the summer and share my then hopefully more educated oppinion on that matter. Of course, the best I hope for is spiritual benefits and powers but completely becoming a nintendo-switch-playing castrate cuck for it doesn't seem to good of a deal. Well, till then. And at least we can all agree on the fact that frequent masturbation is bad and the op of this thread can go fuck himself some more. This far I already know, if you do fap then you have to limit it to once a week or every two weeks or you only harm yourself.

>>127736

What happens after a few weeks of celibacy is the "flatline". It's a period of time when you feel unmotivated and depressed that all people who on celibacy experience in some way. It usually lasts about a week or two. There is an explanation for it floating around in the community that it's your dopamine receptors recovering after years of jacking off regularly. Personally I don't believe in it, it has a couple of holes in it, if you consider the different reports of what people experience during this flatline.

Now the thing is that, the symptoms of a flatline are the same as the symptoms of a badly functioning sacral chakra. And I've experienced that pranayama breathing makes all these symptoms go away because you move the piled up sexual energy up your spine when you do it and it doesn't block up that chakra.

Here is the exercise

https://gnosticteachings.org/lectures-by-samael-aun-weor/146-the-transmutation-of-sexual-energy-4.html

The thing about mike tyson is that if you watch any of his interviews, he doesn't put much faith into any of cus d'amato's more esoteric methods. He praises him mainly in how he taught him the techniques of boxing and lower tier psychology stuff like affirming to him that he's the best and etc…

Only recently did he even open up about how cus d'amato used to take him to a hypnotist often.

And if you try to more consciously observe life before and during celibacy, you'll see that semen retention is like the glue and the charger of all the self improvement principles you may be employing, like affirmations, visualisations, energy work, meditation, working out, reading, anything. It makes you progress at any area at a much faster pace and supplies you the motivation as well.

>>127737

Why is it that everything Samael A. W. wrote is 90% fluff, 5% Christian nonsense, and 5% useful instructions. He's so happy writing pages and pages beating around the bush and basically just quoting from other sources

>>127748

that's what all modern "teachers" do. None of them knows anything for themselves, yet they have the audacity to become gurus and brainwash other people with stuff they themselves merely store from other sources. That's what new-age is (and essentially new-tought before it), it's the age of the brainlet leading brainlet sheeps, the blind leading the blind. Never seen a genuine master, all the guys who seemed real masters have existed so far back in the past that it's impossible to tell if they were actual masters or not.

Because of this the whole spirituality and occult seems even more like a stupid meme and larp.

>>127770

I admit I got worse in a videogame i've been playing where you really need a sharp mind and reflexes and lots of attention after being celibate for over 3 weeks. That's also a part of what I meant with becoming slower. Passion is definetly going down, but I assume it is only the flatline effect and it will get better soon. No premature judgements, let's wait until I have at least 6 months under the belt before we speak out a judgement.