No.3567
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No.3568
I haven't seen Kolberg (waiting for a good version) but it should be on that list because Goebbels sunk so much money into it.
Olympia is one of the best documentaries ever made – maybe the best film made by a woman. I know it's a controversial issue but it's disappointing that Leni's career was a casualty of war.
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No.3609
The Fritz Lang film shouldn't count, as the Nazis immediately banned it.
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No.3610
I don't think Luis Trenker was much of a Nazi either.
I haven't studied German films from this period very much, but it's obviously interesting to see what the culture was producing.
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No.3611
has anyone seen one of the documentaries on veit harlan? of course kubrick married his niece.
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No.3630
>>3609True, but Hitler did like Metropolis
>>3611No, do you know a good place to start with his films and any reasonable quality sources? I've been meaning to get into him for a while.
I know
Opfergang is on Youtube with English subs.
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No.3632
>>3567Triumph of the Will is the pinnacle of propaganda filmmaking.
The Eternal Jew on the other hand is garbage.
Dr. Mabuse is great but not really 3rd Reich.
Jud Süß is very dull and uninteresting.
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No.3636
>>3632> Jud Süß is very dull and uninteresting.True but I do think it's worth seeing what the fuss is all about.
>>3630I've only seen Jud Suss and the source was not very good.
I'm curious if this version is better quality as they've invested money in extras and even a commentary track (which I wouldn't mind hearing).
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No.3640
>>3567Ok, so which movies are propaganda and which are actually worth seeing?
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No.6498
http://synapse-films.com/synapse-films/triumph-of-the-will-blu-ray-2k-remastered-edition/
The Third Reich enters the world of hi-def with a resounding thud. The new Triumph of the Will bluray comes with burned-in English subtitles and an intermittent logo in the corner of the screen...
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=229182&page=5
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No.6823
Someone on /pol/ put a bunch of these in a mega folder: https://mega.nz/#F!F99QQIxC!0aljCC-AfqqhAX48T_U78g
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No.10162
a generous karagarga user is uploading weimar, third reich, and other german rarities onto archive.org
https://archive.org/details/@deutsche_national-filmothek
download MATROSKA for the best quality
films marked 24p have been restored to the proper 24 fps from a source of 25 fps...because people on karagarga care about that sort of stuff!
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No.11130
Kolberg will be on ARTE in Germany next Monday - Dec. 4
For the first time restored in HD by Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau Foundation
https://www.arte.tv/de/videos/011443-000-A/kolberg/
I hope someone will cap it!
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No.11740
It's interesting that Leni had no family at all? Her sole heir is her secretary.
Heir donates estate of Hitler's filmmaker, Leni Riefenstahl, to cultural museum
<A GERMAN CULTURAL foundation said it has been bequeathed photos, films, manuscripts, letters and files from the estate of Leni Riefenstahl, the legendary filmmaker best known for the propaganda movies she made for Nazi Germany.
<The Prussian Cultural Heritage Foundation said today that Riefenstahl’s sole heir, her former secretary, donated the complete collection amassed by the filmmaker, who died in 2003.
<Her films included “Triumph of the Will,” which recorded the Nazis’ 1934 rally at Nuremberg, and, Olympia, a meditation on muscle and movement at the 1936 Berlin Olympic games.
<Riefenstahl always defended her work, saying she knew nothing of Nazi atrocities.
<Foundation president Hermann Parzinger says his organisation will treat the material with “a special responsibility for the critical examination of this controversial person of contemporary history”.
http://www.thejournal.ie/leni-riefenstahl-donor-3849022-Feb2018/
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No.12050
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Hitler's Hollywood
Narrated by Udo Kier. Filmmaker Rüdiger Suchsland suggests that the Third Reich was essentially an immersive movie starring the German nation, produced and directed by Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels. Hitler’s Hollywood collages key films from the more than 1000 features the Nazis produced from 1933-1945: musicals, melodramas, romances, costume dramas, war films – and when the real war got tough, insanely lavish, over-the-top fantasies. The German volk were portrayed as happy and sporty with lives of exaggerated cheerfulness or, conversely, full of morbid yearning for a death that would serve the Fatherland. Hannah Arendt gives perspective and context: “One of the chief characteristics of modern masses… (is) they do not trust their eyes and ears, but only their imaginations. What convinces masses are not facts, not even invented facts, but only the consistency of the illusion.” It’s a frightening insight that could just as easily apply to the American political landscape today. – Karen Cooper, Director, Film Forum
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No.12052
>>3567
What is the film from the 30s, about masonic cults and jews? Nu-/pol/ was streaming it a couple months back. I believe it may be french but this seemed like the proper thread to post it in. It's also up on youtube if that helps further.
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No.12053
>>12052
I bet it's Forces occultes AKA Hidden Forces (1943). I haven't seen it but it looks interesting.
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No.12062
>>3567
My favorite film from any of the Fascist countries is Beniamino Gigli's Mamma. Very nice operetta film.
>Mamma, son tango Felice!
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No.12063
>>12062
That seems like a rare one. Did you watch it on youtube or was there something better?
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No.12075
>>12063
YouTube. The one on YouTube is decent quality imo.
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No.12639
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No.12643
>>12639
I don't know but it's got the IHF watermark, so it must be on their website somewhere -- https://ihffilm.com/
I looked for a bit but I couldn't find anything that matched. Clearly it's a story of the Nazis/SA before they took power, since the police stop them in the street.
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No.14582
Wow, I wasn't expecting to be so impressed with Opfergang. I'd put it up there with Olympia as one of the best of these (granted I haven't seen too many others).
Opfergang is the German cousin of Jack Cardiff's Technicolor dreamworld films where every stitch of clothing and every inch of production design is meticulously planned and color-coordinated to create some of the most sumptuous images in all of cinema. I notice cinematographer Bruno Mondi had a very productive career that spanned decades. I will be paying more attention to him from now on.
When watching Third Reich dramas you're sensitive to any commentary/propaganda concerning the war effort or daily life in Germany. On the surface Opfergang seems like a lavish escapist melodrama a la Douglas Sirk with a central theme of self-sacrifice. But there are other points of interest. One of which is the nagging reminder of mortality, introduced by a grandfather clock bearing a placard that reads "One of these hours will be your last". And a major plot point is the terminal illness of one of the main characters. This angle is rather morbid given the grim direction of the war in 1944. However I think the film had a dual purpose: acknowledge the hardship while seeking to cheer up the German people by transporting them to a world of opulence and splendor, just as the main character Albrecht seeks to cheer up his somber, Nietzsche-reading in-laws by thrusting open the windows to let in the sunshine.
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No.14583
>>14582
More from the Murnau Foundation remastered print. Irene von Meyendorff is a stunner.
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No.14682
Ohm Krueger is a good film on foreign policy and the use of liberal propaganda.
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No.14687
>>14682
Emil Jannings as Paul Kruger? I wasn't expecting a movie about the Boers but I'm interested. I don't know much about Kruger's early life.
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No.14699
>>3630
I must be Hitler then.... I love metropolis
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No.14789
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No.15314
>Russell returned to television with Dance of the Seven Veils (1970) which sought to portray Richard Strauss as a Nazi: one scene in particular showed a Jewish man being tortured while a group of SS men look on in delight, with Strauss's music as the score. The Strauss family was so outraged by the film that they withdrew all music rights. The film is effectively banned from being screened until Strauss's copyright expires in 2019.
>"My intention was to paint in broad strokes," he said. "I wanted strong, hard outlines to bring out aspects of this man and his work that to my mind have been overlooked. Strauss was a selfadvertising, vulgar, commercial man."
We can see blu-ray this year, probably.
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No.15318
>>12053
this was actually worth watching. There are parts that are kind of ham fisted but the pacing and direction are solid.
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No.15320
>>15314
>We can see blu-ray this year, probably.
Maybe, do you have confirmation? I'm surprised Strauss' family is still able to exert copyright.
This film sounds like it follows the anti-authoritarian mindset of the late 1960s. The great composers faced newfound skepticism because beauty was seen (by some) as a product of bourgeois culture. Certainly the Nazis were big proponents of beauty as well, so why not slander a great composer by depicting him as a Nazi.
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No.15323
>>15320
>Maybe, do you have confirmation?
No.
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No.15470
>>3609
it was a film that played during the Reich for a time so it counts. Nazis also banned Victory of Faith (1933) because Rohm was in it but that doesn't make it a Reich era film from a historical context.
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No.15471
>>14699
Despite Lang being Jewish, his wife was a member of the Nazi party and I even remember reading that Goebbels offered to give him "Aryan citizenship" if he directed a film for the party. Given Goebbels track record for the truth, I think they would have executed him afterward though.
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No.15472
>>3640
Good narrative films - sci fi film Gold (1934) and musical We Make Music (1942)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMDRYDpt89s
Anything with Ilse Werner or Marika Rokk is worth watching.
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No.15485
>>15471
> his wife was a member of the Nazi party
Somehow I never knew that. Not a pretty woman but she was a great screenwriter.
<A Nazi banner flew over Lang’s house in the early 1930s – and while many ascribe that action to von Harbou – Gottfried Reinhardt and Harold Nebenzal told McGilligan, “Lang was lax in tolerating the Nazis and flirted with Party approval.” Whether Lang was a Nazi sympathizer is still an unanswered question and McGilligan states “evidence lingers on either side of the issue” and while it is likely that a definitive answer will never be forthcoming, it belies the hard-line, anti-Nazi stance that Lang would affect in Hollywood and indicates that what we think we know about Lang is no more than the smoke of myth. One thing that will become clear is that it wasn’t von Harbou’s politics that led to the divorce. One reason for Lang’s flight might exist in the sense that the Nazis had a party member in von Harbou and an apolitical and troublesome personality in Fritz Lang.
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No.15492
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No.15495
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>>12050
The entire documentary is up on YouTube currently. Unfortunately, it is not translated with English subtitles. Hopefully, one of our German posters here can translate it.
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No.15498
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No.15499
>>15485
The flag was probably 100% Harbou's idea but Lang most likely did not care either way about the politics, just like every one else at the time. I can't fault him for not predicting the future and seeing what would happen during WWII.
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