No.3065 [Last50 Posts]
I've seen dozens of Japanese films but very few from China. It seems like Chinese films are not as widely known, especially if you don't count Hong Kong.
Anyway, which films do you like from China? Given the size of their country, why isn't their cinema more popular internationally?
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No.3066
The Goddess(1934) by Yonggang Wu
Spring in a Small Town(1948) by Mu Fei
Still Life(2006) by Jia Zhangke
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No.3069
Jia Zhangke (Platform) and Wang Bing (Tie Xie Qu) are pretty good.
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No.3081
>>3065their films are currently playing a huge part in cinematographic history. lol.
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No.3082
>>3081I don't quite understand how something can
currently play a part in
history?
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No.3085
what is this huge influence of Chinese films on cinematography?
please give some examples.
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No.7746
Yimou Zhang is a very popular Chinese director (I'm sure many already know him here) who was responsible for the fantastic 2008 Olympic ceremonies
http://www.rogerebert.com/rogers-journal/zhang-yimous-gold-medal
I've seen his film Huo zhe AKA To Live which follows a Chinese family and Chinese society from the 1940s to recent times. It's easy to forget just how underdeveloped the country was throughout much of 20th century.
The film was banned for its mild criticism of the Chinese gov't, so that aspect is interesting to watch. Other than that it's an effective drama with straightforward storytelling.
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No.7752
>>7746
Zhang is great
>>3065
China's got some great films about the second Sino-Japanese war, and Japans occupation of Nanjing- an aspect of WW2 that doesn't get nearly enough attention imo
Check out 'The Flowers of War' and 'Nanjing: City of Life and Death' by Chuan Lu, this one especially because the narrative follows a Chinese and Japanese perspective of the occupation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1aLFfk_kqY
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No.7753
>>3065
and to answer your last question:
>Communism
Given that Ghostbusters isn't allowed to screen in the country (Lucky them) because it "promotes cults and superstition" I'd say the government is cautious of any film that could potentially generate free thought or political unrest
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No.7799
>>7753
Ghostbusters is a cancerous piece of shit though, it's good that they banned it. I'm pretty sure that even if it was shown in Chinese cinemas no one would have gone to see it.
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No.7804
>>7799
too right
hence me saying lucky them
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No.7808
>>7752
> City of Life and Death
Yeah that one looks essential >>6876
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No.8778
Ashes of time looks beautiful but I can't find the original version.
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No.8779
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No.8780
I found a much better link
http://uptobox.com/9tn88m0x0lfz
it's in this folder which has some other good stuff
http://uptobox.com/users/oblio/594396/tos.html
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No.8829
A Brighter Summer Day
Black coal thin ice
The East Is Red
The Bride with White Hair
Yi Yi
sent down girl xiu xiu
Here is Cock and Bull
mellenium mambo
drug war
raise the red lantern
heat of the sun
most distant course
Durian Durian
rebels of the neon god
here then
night train
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No.8848
>>8829
A few of these are Taiwanese, which is not technically Chinese.
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No.8849
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No.8864
>>8780
thanks i've never see this
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No.10503
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No.10546
I recently watched two Chinese movies that I enjoyed:
-Cold War (2012)
-Three (2016)
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No.10547
>>3065
Another answer to the last question with relation to >>7753 is that there is often an amount of pro-China propaganda one way or another in their films which, at least to me, are heavily negative aspects. It's similarly noticeable in Hollywood films trying to cash in on the Chinese audience. In Hollywood's case, at least, it's an easier way to convince the Chinese government to allow their film into their whitelist of allowed films.
Zhang Yimou was mentioned here. I personally enjoyed Hero (2002) for the most part until it hit heavily with the pro-China message.
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No.10548
>>10547
> I personally enjoyed Hero (2002) for the most part until it hit heavily with the pro-China message.
I liked it too but I forgot about the Pro-China aspect. Or I didn't think to notice that at the time. I only saw it when it was released.
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No.13804
Has gorgeous visuals, great action scenes, a cohesive theme, and it makes for a pretty tense thriller, I'd say it's his best work yet. Has anyone else here seen it yet? If not, here's a magnet (has both Chinese and English subtitles)
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:B1D1BD7B655054404D234055398FB079D2881C12
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No.13805
>>13804
Can someone stop this fella to spam this shitty movie all time? Jesus, at this point it's just embarrasing.
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No.13809
>>13805
The thread was removed and reposted here by the mods, calm down.
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No.13811
>>13809
This site has mods, first news, probably Tarkovsky lovers.
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No.13846
>>13811
Fresh from the boat aren't we.
I'll have to say i don't remember this thread, I got stuck in the chink cinema for a year now, really cool stuff but they are very contrasting.
The Mainland Chinese industry is an actually underrated one because not a lot came out that wasn't outright propaganda because most talent ran away to Hong Kong. In my opinion China will not reach Hong Kong's level of success, because in terms of money i think even Jackie Chan and Jet Li made more bank with DVD/VHS sales than their brand of fantasy CGI fests with band members instead of actors. And in terms of artistic merit, i think HK had enough liberty and funds to let someone go nuts every once in a while.
>>8848
Technically speaking Taiwan is the original Republic of China in exile after the gommies did their purges, as their political lineage is the direct one the monarchy/dinasty abdicated to (although the chinese invaded and replaced the original natives in a stone cold way here, you have been warned Canada)
But after all even with the Hong Kong takeover, it wasn't until 2004 or 2005 that Red China was producing movies constantly because earlier the works were Hong Kong products in terms of everything except the final papers that needed government seals and/or changing the ending. An exception would probably be >>10548 which had an egregious pro-China ending (not historical either) which even made Jet Li pull a political stunt to escape from the Bureau. Other than that the main cast was full of HK veterans and/or dissidents aside from Yimou.
Also >>8780 is full non-red china, and one of the few times a remaster beats the original by a mile.
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No.13871
I think Winter of Three Hairs looks interesting as an early example of Chinese cinema. But I wish I could find a better version of it. Every site seems to have the same rip, bad video quality but (strangely) surround sound audio.
https://hawkmenblues.blogspot.com/2014/12/san-mao-liu-lang-ji-gong-yan-ming-zhao.html
Spring in a Small Town is another well-known Chinese film of the 1940s, the title seems to indicate a new beginning after WWII but I never checked if that's what the story is really about. I saw part if it last year. The subs gradually went out of sync so I stopped. I remember noticing the acting was unusually posed with characters making robotic movements and pauses.
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No.13879
Does anyone have a link for that martial arts thread on /tv/? It should be archived. A few months ago some guy posted brief descriptions of 50 or 100 of his favorites. People told him to post here instead to make it easier to find. Well now I need to find it.
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No.13906
>>13879
I'm coincidentally doing a clean image of his list, i forgot to achieve it but i still had the tab open so i half-ass saved what i could, fortunately all the thread.
Started doing it but somewhat forgot about it in the holidays, British Hong Kong anon right? he had some controversial opinions but his work is highly appreciated nonetheless.
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No.13907
>>13906
Do you know the number of the first post, or the general date when it was posted? 8chan should have archived the text at minimum, probably most of the embeds too.
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No.13908
>>13907
What the hell, i'll be damned, i clicked the reference in the .pdf and it threw me right into the thread's archive
So here you go:
>https://8ch.net/tv/res/1617463.html
Honestly i didn't remember that feature, but then again i rarely visit there with a serious and stable attitude. Guess i'll finish that chart later.
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No.13909
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No.13912
>>13908
I must have missed something. When was all the talk here about unironically liking Brakhage?
Do you think this guy has his own opinions, or did he read the Tarkovsky story and immediately agree with every word?
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No.13914
>>13912
yeah that gripe doesn't make much sense
I would have expected Tiger on the Beat somewhere on that fight scenes list. I guess the OP never came back to expand it.
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No.13915
https://www.scmp.com/business/article/2104540/its-fade-out-hong-kongs-film-industry-china-moves-spotlight
>It’s fade out for Hong Kong’s film industry as China moves into the spotlight
>Hong Kong produced 400 films a year in the early 90s, but that number has dropped to around 60 today
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No.13916
>>13915
Like i wanted to post because i always sperg out with that, the mainland gommie bureau did a damn chaos in the HK industry with their guidelines and corrective orders (i did like their input on Infernal Affairs) and many talents got away in terror around 1997 or simply didn't want to work in that atmosphere (plenty returned but got trapped)
HK did a lot of stuff, but mainly their medium to low-budget movies, especially the softcore and gore ones (the famous Category III films, or Blue Films) along with cheap comedy romances are what makes the good bulk of that pre-handover number. I mean it's kind of cheating to lump the softcore flicks and made for TV tearjerkers but i guess it counts, but at some points it gave great results: cannibal cop dramas with The Untold Story, gore fu with Riki-Oh, fetish sex fu with pic related and the deep horrors of 2 men kissing and checking their own oil with Happy Together.
I know pirated movies were overly rampant but at least there was a market for everything with the movie tax, but just like South Korea, when someone wants that foreign movie tax out, bad things happen in the local medium. And what's the best way to see how good you are doing than making porn movies with wire flying kung fu masters naked in a forest with a medium orchestra playing on the background. But even if they make 60 a year, it's rare that any of those push the limits like in the 90's.
>>13912
>>13914
It's /tv/ we are talking about here, half of them only post to cause controversy.
I remember that tripfag or some other chink mentioning in another thread that Tiger on the Beat had the best chainsaw scene in a movie, i haven't seen it but that director is top notch in terms of fights.
OP implied he had a top 100 made, shame he never went back to post it, at least the names only. We can always ask in the HK board, i think they have one (or was it Taiwan?)
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No.13924
Tiger on the Beat fight scene
>>13916
>We can always ask in the HK board, i think they have one
I remember a bunch of HK boards created at one time, but it looks like they didn't last long
>>>/hk/97
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No.13928
>>3082
because you are a faggot who can't read and doesn't understand anything
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No.13934
>>13924
Man, is that really Gordon Liu as a haired chainsaw-wielding loon? I need that movie
>but it looks like they didn't last long
Nevermind, the board i was thinking of was /komica/, which is a taiwanese board of seemingly anime lovers. I thought it was /hkpol/, which is also dusted.
A shame, they must be pretty chastised with the Tiananmenposting.
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No.13939
>>13928
You're literally canadian, don't embarrass yourself more and leave the thread.
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No.14528
I just read this crazy account of China's harsh treatment of one of its biggest movie stars. Fan Bingbing was making "too much" money and she apparently tried to dodge paying full taxes on it. So at the peak of her fame she was abruptly removed from society.
http://archive.is/0ThRN
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/03/the-untold-story-disappearance-of-fan-bingbing-worlds-biggest-movie-star
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No.14530
>>14528
Funny that you post that one today due to recent news, back in its day it was a big story, but suddenly it disappeared when the gommies also vanished the head of the Interpol when he visited the mainland.
An established government disappeared the President of the International Police without reason or justification other than a phony press conference without him present, and the cops only called to elections after it happened, which were basically a political alignment vote because it was between a hardcore russian and a south korean ex-DMZ.
And just today PR China announced said Interpol guy was expelled from every known government entity, both as a worker and as a citizen, or had his existence denied. Basically the guy got ghosted.
This, along with Beebee Fan, made tons of rich celebrities lose their heads over a Chapelle Syndrome. Yun-fat Chow donated the vast majority of his money to foundations when people started dropping, Jet Li escaped from Beijing when he was young, escaped from Hong Kong when the red menace were starting to get serious and dished out his chinese nationality, escaped from the U.S. when his city was starting to get even more chinamen, dished out his new U.S. nationality and settled in Singapore with another new nationality; Michelle Yeoh married a jewish producer and got protection, hence why she can get away with her fairly conservative views in the US. Waiting for Tsui Hark to make big propaganda or escape to Vietnam.
Poor Hong Kong, really wonder if they could've been anything other than CGI comedies.
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No.14531
>>14530
Wow I missed that whole Interpol story. It sounds like a good example of how US/Europe only care about "human rights" as a means to dominate weak countries. (It's happening right now with Venezuela.) When a real power like China does something nefarious to its citizens there's very little international pushback.
Interpol won't even speak out for its former leader. This Interpol sadsack sounds just like the sort of spineless EU functionary that Farage likes to roast.
>That same day Interpol said it received a resignation letter from Meng — without specifying the source — and accepted it "with immediate effect." Jürgen Stock, Interpol's secretary-general, said there was "no reason for me to [suspect] that anything was forced or wrong" about the resignation.
>Interpol has refused to investigate Meng's disappearance, saying organizational rules forbid it.
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No.14549
I'm always looking for something as wild as Boxer's Omen. Maybe nothing compares, but Buddha's Palm is a fun watch.
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No.14550
>>13871
> Winter of Three Hairs
That one is not very good. It's based on a comic strip about a weird looking kid living on the street. Apparently there were a lot of homeless children in China after WWII.
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No.14561
Hong Kong cinema is probably my favorite 'genre' in the past 2 years. So many gems and such an amazing craft, my most recent favorite being "Beast Cops." Haven't actually watched that many mainland films though.
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No.14563
>>14531
>It's happening right now with Venezuela
Yes i agree, when the big boys play nobody bats an eye until someone does it way over the top or you want to play in their field. But as a former citizen, if there ever was a country that needs a full-on invasion and get its population swiftly decimated by half to return it into a discernible society i assure you, it's Venezuela. And i'm not being hyperbolic.
And also yes, Interpol lost the respect of absolutely everyone after that little stunt. In my respective area there's been a massive influx of chinese money, much of it going to illicit activities, currently they are paying cartels to find and smuggle exotic goods, including near-extinction species like the Vaquita or the threatened Totoaba. A week ago the navy shot and killed a bunch of unarmed modest fishermen because they were caught with tens of thousand of dollars plus a bunch of said fish, and it's not only here, fentanyl shenanigans are also picking mass media.
I don't know which side was the beast cop on but i bet it had something to do with it, and it's hilarious Interpol can investigate just about everything except the sudden disappearance of important figures such as their own president.
>>14561
Same here and for the same time, that's why i don't post in the last film watched thread anymore because i would merely spam it with chinese stuff that is fun and entertaining but really don't bring anything transcendental in terms of anything other than action or editing.
Beast Cops i don't remember finding a good quality rip but i read it cleaned the critics and cinemas in 1997-8, i do remember that was supposed to be one of the first films i wanted to watch after i saw the irreverent Knock Off, made same year and has some of the same personnel, one of the supporting actors i think was one of the leads in Cops.
After that i saw martial arts vehicles and some other film house stuff along with blue films. They really were massive in their heyday, in 10 years they made boatloads of tasty trash, i only need to start (and maybe finish) from start to bottom the Girls with Guns genre, have seen many but i wanted to give a proper tour.
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No.14564
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No.14565
I'm fond of Farewell My Concubine. Also think it's very relevant for today.
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No.14568
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14564
there's a weird trend lately where people who make interesting posts get attacked for bizarre reasons
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No.14942
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
The 20 year anniversary of Tiananmen Square is coming next week, so I looked for Chinese films or documentaries on the topic (even if made outside the country). I found this cool short with "Tiananmen Square" in the title. It recounts one man's perspective on the history of modern China using personal artwork, propaganda images, archival photos, patriotic songs, etc. Beautifully made. It's not exactly what I wanted but I'm glad to find it.
https://www.nfb.ca/film/sunrise_over_tiananmen_square/
<Shui-Bo Wang's feature documentary is a visual autobiography of an artist who grew up in China during the historic upheavals of the '60s, '70s and '80s. A rich collage of original artwork and family and archival photographs presents a personal perspective on the turbulent Cultural Revolution and the years that followed. For Shui-Bo Wang and others of his generation, Tiananmen Square was the central symbol of the new China -- a society to be based on equality and cooperation. This animated documentary artfully traces Shui-Bo's roots and his own life journey as he struggles to sort through ideology and arrive at truth.
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No.14943
>>14942
>The 20 year anniversary
i meant 30
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No.14944
>>13804
it was literally his worst film yet by a country mile. Why shill this on /film/ of all places?
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