No.52958 [Last50 Posts]
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No.53329
I had a look at it and it actually seems sensible. Might even be too sane to be popular.
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No.53338
>>52958
>cyberpunks
Go back to reddit
>FSW messiah
>leftist
>complains about bitcoin not being completely anonymous
>calls for implementation of state-controlled pseudonimity to "fight crime"
>Tries to associate with liberty after all that
As gay as leftism usually is, tbh. How much of a letdown can this fat fag be?
>>53329
>this shit
>too same
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No.53345
>>53338
Imagine coming to /cyber/, being a hierarchist, and then getting mad that other people aren't also hierarchists.
This is an anarchist board. There is no place for your right-wing capitalist nonsense here.
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No.53346
>>53345
Imagine coming to /cyber/, being a statist, and then getting mad that other people aren't also statists.
This is a capitalist board. There is no place for your left-wing commie nonsense here.
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No.53349
>>53338
“Let me check reddit real quick and see.”
“ well I think I’ll stay here. “
Besides everything you mentioned, how do you feel about the coding ?
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No.53351
>>53349
>“Let me check reddit real quick and see.”
>“ well I think I’ll stay here. “
I have no idea what you mean by this. By looking at your inability to use greentext and misuse of quotes i see that you're new to imageboards. You should fuck off back, leftist drone.
>how do you feel about the coding ?
Boring, going for a programming degree, though probably will drop it. Why are you asking? This is not /tech/, it's a science fiction board.
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No.53352
>>53345
>hierarchist
>Tfw antifa is scared of using the word "anarchist" and has to make up another one.
And stay there. You always was just another welfare leech.
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No.53370
>>53351
Ooo
I didn’t know it was science fiction.
I’ll make my way to the tech board then.
Good luck
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No.53450
>>53345
>There is no place for your right-wing capitalist nonsense here.
maybe you should check your privilege at the door commie shitstain.
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No.53460
>>52958
>built in support for taxation
kek only bootlicking gnutard commies could come up with this shit.
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No.53461
>>53345
>This is an anarchist board. There is no place for your right-wing capitalist nonsense here.
what is anarcho capitalism
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No.53465
>>53460
>>built in support for taxes
Because who doesn't like literally backdoored currency?
>>53461
Anathema to authoritarians and the target of many a strawman argument. Really the biggest downfall is probably that the term anarchy, while technically accurate, doesn't do you any favors due to the largely negative connotations of the word. Libertarian/libertarian capitalist gets the same point across more or less, but has the issue of people thinking you're just "weed lmao" or throwing your vote away to muh nutzis.
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No.53497
>>53345
>>53346
this is an anarcho-capitalist board you absolute fucking mongoloids
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No.53498
>>53497
Fuck off, it's always been just anarchist, perhaps even leaning a bit left.
The anarcho capitalists are the people on top of the corporate structure fucking things up for everyone else, go suck google's cock.
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No.53499
>>53498
>it's always been just anarchist
Which is what ancap is
>perhaps even leaning a bit left
Spotted leftyshit infiltrating son of a whorish negress.
>The anarcho capitalists are the people on top of the corporate structure fucking things up for everyone else
>Imagine being so stupid inbred waste you call everyone who isn't as degenerate as yourself the all-powerful overlords just to play a victim.
You are so worthless you cannot do even that, you disposable bio waste.
>go suck google's cock
It's the job of GNUtards, get back to repeating what your mother was good at.
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No.53500
>>53498
>people on top of the corporate structure fucking things up for everyone else
>trying to blame people by associating them with fictional characters
That's why leftists will forever be a fucking joke
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No.53505
>>53499
There's so much shit in that post i don't even know where to begin.
>>53500
>Associating them with fictional characters
What?
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No.53508
>tax backdoor
I haven't looked into the specifics, but I am sure that's not the case. While the cryptocurrency community has gone full cuck as of lately by embracing centralized corporate solutions like XRP, such a thing wouldn't fly by anyone in the actual FSF side of technology.
Most probably, the system is purely generic, and just allows special "contracts" to be freely formed by individuals to associate themselves with "tax programs". So basically, either:
>A) All accounts are created generic, but the user can accept smart contracts (the government-made smart contract) that will perform payments to a certain addresses on certain actions or every few days/months. The government mandates by law, not by technological means, that all citizens must have a primary Taler account registered in their offices, which is used for taxation. By law, all companies within the country must only deal with individuals under officially registered accounts (probably, payment terminals may have some automatics checks in place to ensure this). Failure to comply would be public and easily punishable, even if users may still be able to perform illicit business through unassociated Taler subnetworks.
>B) Governments emit official Taler accounts to their citizens. This is the account they must use to receive their salaries, and companies are required only to deal with accounts whose coins can ne traced to an official account. Users can stil create personal accounts, and even unassociated accounts to perform illicit payments if they are intelligent enough to keep them completely separated.
It's not all that different to the way modern day bank accounts work. This is not a downgrade in privacy, but more like a sidegrade, while still allowing users to be fully anonymous in the network if they manage to run some complicated laundering schemes with unassociated accounts. Basically, this aims to replace banks, which is exactly why it will fail, unless governments imposes banks as the "official Taler account issuers and administrators", which would ease up the management of a cryptocurrency system to the normalfag population (because, can you imagine an 80 year old granny having to keep their private access Taler keys safe through several backups? I don't. Fuck, not even your average 20 years old Chad or Stacy could do it), and also avoid a bank uprising. Tax evasion and real name association can only be enforced by law means, as doing it via purely technological means is impossible.
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No.53510
>>53508
>I haven't looked into the specifics, but I am sure that's not the case
>The level of denial in the pitiful minds of Stallmanites
>such a thing wouldn't fly by anyone in the actual FSF side of technology
It sure wasn't, unlike leftist government cocksuckers.
>just allows special "contracts" to be freely formed by individuals to associate themselves with "tax programs"
<Taxation
<Voluntarily
That's not how the world works, you single digit IQ faggot.
>It's not all that different to the way modern day bank accounts work
Good fucking job, you outed yourself.
>This is not a downgrade in privacy, but more like a sidegrade
Nice semantic play.
>because, can you imagine an 80 year old granny having to keep their private access Taler keys safe through several backups? I don't. Fuck, not even your average 20 years old Chad or Stacy could do it
>Don't you dare try to do it yourself, only government can protect yourself
Leftism in a nutshell
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No.53512
>>53510
What a little shazbot you are. Not even Bitcoin would be free from taxation, and I suspect they would find a way to forcibly tax XMR, with more or less success. If you want to be untraceable and untaxable, use fucking cash.
Educate yourself on smart contracts and taxation law, or quit LARPing, fucking faggot.
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No.53516
>>53512
>Not even Bitcoin would be free from taxation
Wew lad
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No.53518
>>53508
bitcoin and other shitcoins may nominally function on a decentralized basis, but when your system allows a person to mine more coins by leveraging more computing resources, or buy more coins by having a large supply of fiat currency, it's the oligarchs with massive amounts of capital who end up in control of the supply and the price of the coin, and therefore the control of the currency is centralized in the hands of a few.
if you want a truly decentralized currency, you have to distribute it evenly, among all of the participants in the currency system; simply having a wallet should provide you with a daily ration of coin. but even then, this mechanism can still be exploited by the capitalists with access to large numbers of machines or IPs. so you need to rely on some physically identifying trait to ensure that the coins will be distributed only once per day per person; further, that cumulative ration should be retroactively applied once a person connects with their wallet for the first time, so that all humanity can potentially benefit from this. the problem with THIS though is that wageslaves will likely be made to forfeit their ration to their corporate slavers; there may also be privacy concerns over what kind of information is needed to identify a unique human being. ANOTHER major problem with a truly decentralized currency would be that it'd be almost worthless in terms of fiat, since the oligarchs who have control over fiat don't want to invest in something they can't control and exploit. to get it off the ground you'd need a mass grassroots transition to such a currency and use it to facilitate the creation and maintenance of local, self-sufficient economies/communities
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No.53519
>>53518
>exploited by the capitalists
>simply having a wallet should provide you with a daily ration of coin
>you need to rely on some physically identifying trait to ensure that the coins will be distributed only once per day per person
>all humanity can potentially benefit from this
Hey /trannypol/, fuck off back to your containment board.
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No.53520
>>53518
also, forcing some kind of a logarithmic valuation of this hypothetical coin would massively hinder the development of wealth inequality, and it would encourage people to make immediate use of their coin ration (rather than hoarding the coins until they quadruple in price at which point you dump them, instead of, you know, actually using the coins to facilitate daily transactions); this indirect enforcement of spending will stimulate the economy. you can couple this with the previous identification method so you can't abuse this mechanism by redirecting multiple small transactions across multiple different wallets to maintain maximum value (since you would own those different wallets). so let's say you have 7 coins, 1+2+4, so you have effectively 3 coins; the first "coin" you spend will cost 4 of your base coins, the second coin will cost 2, the third will cost 1.
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No.53521
>>53520
>hinder the development of wealth inequality
>encourage people to make immediate use of their coin ration
>this indirect enforcement of spending will stimulate the economy
Holy shit, this is facebook liberal shitnigger tier.
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No.53523
>>52958
>Indeed, in a break with the anti-government ethos that has tended to characterize bitcoin and some of its peers, Taler’s design explicitly tries to block opportunities for tax evasion.
>Speaking to this, Stallman told CoinDesk, “We need a state to do many vital jobs, including fund research, fund education, provide people with medical care – provide everyone with medical care – build roads, maintain order, provide justice, including to those who are not rich and powerful, and so the state’s got to bring in a lot of money.”
oh no no no stallman
the state uses fiat currency, which it can produce at will. it doesn't need to levy taxes at all, instead it can print more money; in the current system, taxes are an austerity measure that extracts the most wealth from the poor and the middle classes, where as the corporate elites are shielded from taxation AND inflation by dumping their fiat in the stock market and other financial assets, and their effective taxation is reduced even further via corporate welfare paid out by the government which illegitimately subsidizes corporate entities that are "too big to fail"; entities with unsustainable and immoral practices which should be allowed to fail, especially if we assume that we have an actual free market. the penalty for printing brouzouf would be inflation, and the USD has be inflating at a steady rate ever since its inception. inflation only hurts you if you're not a recipient of some of the new money. since deficit spending pays for an excessive military budget, corporate welfare, and an overpriced medical system, all of which are controlled by a handful of shareholders, the inflation hurts the poor the most of all, whose wages don't grow at all (7.25$ federal minimum wage, top fucking schway), whose wealth is 100% in fiat, and whose cost of living continually increases. so no no no stallman, the state doesn't need to tax anyone, instead the state should pay out a universal basic income to all people via deficit spending, while cutting deficit spending that goes straight into the pockets of the capitalist class. the system we have now, coupled with climate devastation, has us hurdling directly into a cyberpunk shithole hyperdense urban dystopia surrounded by lifeless wasteland that some of you might actually fantasize about.
stay free, brothers
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No.53528
>>53523
Not bad post but has issues:
>minimum wage
Cancer
>capitalist class
Leftyspeak
Clean that trash and you're good to go.
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No.53532
>>53498
>The anarcho capitalists are the people on top of the corporate structure
you wish. the people on top of our megacorps are fucking statists happily holding out the hand for state brouzouf and having no problem paying politicians to enact market regulations to fuck with competition. zuckerberg & co. are lefty bootlickers who love state intervention (see their screeching for net neutrality)
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No.53533
>>53512
>taxation law
s/taxation/theft/g
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No.53534
>>53521
when people spend their brouzouf on nigger bling and don't save anything the welfare state can justify its existence far easier and put down the boot even harder on our throats and increase taxation. that's leftism in a nutshell.
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No.53536
>>53532
The point is that at that level there's no difference, they have power and they want to keep it and gain more, it doesn't matter at all if it's through a "free" market or bureaucracy.
The little guy is fucked regardless.
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No.53537
>>53519
>>53528
When did we get invaded by /pol/tards?
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No.53538
>>53537
>not /trannypol/
>immediately /pol/
that's not how things work, fuck back to where you came from, you tumblr newfaggot
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No.53540
>>53536
>The point is that at that level there's no difference
There's a world of difference. If you wasn't a leftist that sees everything as either "steal shit from anyone having anything" and anything else you'd know that. Unfortunately, leftist is born without a brain.
>it doesn't matter at all if it's through a "free" market or bureaucracy
0/10 economically illiterate
>The little guy
empty words with no meaning
Get back to sucking government dick for brouzouf stolen from productive people, you welfare leech
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No.53541
>>53540
I'm apparently leftist now, that's fucking rich, can you stop projecting and address the simple point.
>0/10 economically illiterate
I don't understand why you keep refusing to get the point, it's fairly simple honestly.
>Get back to sucking government dick for brouzouf stolen from productive people, you welfare leech
Because if i don't suck corporate dick it means i'm an statist, are you retarded on purpose?
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No.53542
>>53541
>I'm apparently leftist now, that's fucking rich
Why would you deny it? Leftists are mostly proud of showing their degeneracy.
>can you stop projecting
I'm not the leftist here so you probably should have learned what a projection is but it's impossible for such a 0IQ nigger you are.
>address the simple point
>you keep refusing to get the point
What point? The only thing you posted was an empty display of your complete lack of understanding of anything about economics which wasn't an argument even, just normalfag-tier reaction.
>Because if i don't suck corporate dick it means i'm an statist, are you retarded on purpose?
Because you want to deprive people from freedom of association that makes you a statist. It seems like your projection has failed.
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No.53543
>>53536
you can gain & keep that kind of power only if there's a state that can enforce your power monpoly. in a free market there's always competition
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No.53544
>>53541
just stop, commie. you won't fool anyone.
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No.53545
>>53544
It's probably just a normalfag facebook pinko faggot. Still deserve all the shit and bullying they get.
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No.53546
>>53541
How about you suck neither and stop being such a bootlicker?
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No.53552
>>53545
those are the worst. useful idiots. i can respect a hardcore commie who knows that he's playing the game only to get in power and for personal gain. the ones who believe they are improving the world though they are the ones that I hate with a burning passion
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No.53555
This bread is dangerously low in discussion of the moves (((they))) are pushing in the cryptospace.
(((They))) brought up bitcoin or confiscated a lot of whales. Some less than 0,05 percent of the holders got over 60% of the coins.
The (((Bilderberg))) meeting in 2017 said they got the cryptos under control and are using it to their advantage for furthering the destabilization process towards their dystopian wet dream and furthering the amassing of assets and control over the masses.
How they are doing this is by their usual market manipulation. Just like stocks and owning the means of production. Bitcoin isn't decentralized. Less than 10 nodes are contorlling far most of the hashing power.
(((Etherium))) is a whackjob of a coding protocol. Cryptokitties broke it.
(((Ripple))) is not decentralized and a bankers pet monstrosity of premature birth.
Eth classic is dying out of lack of governance.
I don't even want to comment of Bitcoin brouzouf as most people would know who's behind that and what a lost soul he is.
Dash is interesting and have good people behind it. Monero is currently the only protocol the illegal drug market is using thanks to its true anonymous protocol.
Iota is the poster child of the IOT agenda and will fail miserably with their protocol horribly missing a solution for the intermittance aspect of cryoptocurrency. Just like 5g more or less is a secret way of pushing too powerful antennas which will be able to fully control a blade runner universe OIT scenario where everyone wants to control their fridges and window shaders with a push on a button in or outside their homes but at the same time be able to roast whole neughbourhoods with microwaves if the power supply is adequate.
More or less the biggest coins overshadow the real and promising projects trying to fix real things with a technology under rapid evolution.
No gold standard has yet been formed. Bitcoin had the first mover initiative and the moment real smart contracts can solve real live problems we will see a next etherium can't thanks to the scaling issues it has.
Unless you believe in fiat. Then the gold standard is bitcoin - but only thanks to the fact it has been subverted already.
Even in the case a genuine protocol has been established (((they))) will try to subvert the projects with sheer purchasing power and greed. The community is more important than the tech in that regards.
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No.53637
>>53542
>Why would you deny it?
Maybe because i'm not a leftist
>What point?
That there's no practical difference between a corporate tyranny and state tyranny for most people.
>complete lack of understanding of anything about economics
The fuck are you talking about, i never mentioned economics.
>Because you want to deprive people from freedom of association
When did i even imply that?
Your posts makes as much sense as if i went to /pol/ to call them leftists and argue against their supposed "leftism", you're "arguing" things so far from the point i don't even know what to say really.
The point is very simple, for the average person, what difference does it make? very little if none at all.
>>53543
>in a free market there's always competition
Yes, thing is someone eventually wins and that someone wants to keep winning, hell if you're at the top why even allow more competition? you already won, anything else is a threat, doesn't it makes sense to stop any competition while you're still on top? if you have the resources why not? not that competition is any good for the average person. they're competing for profits not costumer satisfaction, they do often go hand in hand, but they don't just as often, so competition between corporations doesn't really benefit anyone much.
Hell, the argument of competition is like arguing in favor of statism because states have conflicts between them, also if you don't like a state you can move to another dude, so it's all fine :^) before the other retard calls me an statist, i'm against both and i'm trying to show why you're both just as retarded, not that i'm in support of statismgotta say, since >>53542 is a bit too dense to understand that
What makes you think a corporation wouldn't setup some sort of state if it could benefit them? to ensure their monopoly for example hell i've seen people claim that that's what modern states already are, why would they play fair at all? , what's to keep them from adding heroin to cereal to ensure "brand loyalty", sure that sounds ridiculous now, but it's basically what they're doing with sugar. The elites wont ever give a fuck about you, unless you're already at the top in which case you're a cunt or plan to be in which case you're naive it doesn't make sense.
You libertarians are as retarded as the communists.
>>53546
That's my point you dense motherfucker
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No.53641
>>53637
>Maybe because i'm not a leftist
Yet you act like one
>That there's no practical difference between a corporate tyranny and state tyranny for most people
Corporate tyranny is only possible via government.
>The fuck are you talking about, i never mentioned economics.
monopolies are an economic issue and your sperging about them without understanding of economics only furthers your stupidity.
>When did i even imply that?
<Hurr durr corporations are equally as bad for the "small man(TM)", support le enlightened centrist instead
Kill yourself
>for the average person, what difference does it make?
For the average person, a corporation doesn't use guns to get his money, for starters. For an average person economic opportunities do mean something. you keep using vague term to intentionally limit the observation to make retarded claims on topic you know nothing about. Kill your mother, children and family and only then kill yourself so that none of your wasteful genes have a chance to remain and pass further.
>hell if you're at the top why even allow more competition?
Because you don't automatically gain an ability to "allow" anything when you're "on top", you dense motherfucker. Unless you become government, one way or another, you cannot stop others from creating competition. Fucking inbred son of a whore.
>not that competition is any good for the average person
Oh i get it, you are using "small man", "average person" and other shit do disguise your own illiterate opinion.
For your brainless empty head - competition does allow greater choice, lower prices and and limits owners' power - all just as an immediate benefit, not even talking about long-term improvements like innovation and quality.
>they do often go hand in hand, but they don't just as often, so competition between corporations doesn't really benefit anyone much
Brilliant logic, i don't even have to point anything out, only wonder how can one get so much shit in head.
>the argument of competition is like arguing in favor of statism because states have conflicts between them
NPC-tier, that like saying oligopolies are better than free markets because oligopolies allow competition when monopolies do not.
>if you don't like a state you can move to another dude, so it's all fine
Pic related. Teough you couldn't even manage to make that argument properly. You're just leaking around like a diarrhea personality you are.
>i'm against both
Aka, enlightened centrist definitely-not-leftist.
>What makes you think a corporation wouldn't setup some sort of state
Because then it would become a state, not a corporation. That's another level of stupidity.
>why would they play fair at all?
Because their interventions and unfair practices would be punished and not encouraged and protected, like they do with a state.
>The elites wont ever give a fuck about you
You don't make a point, you're just a little whiny dishonest fence sitter. You don't proclaim a ban on "corporations" and don't offer any solutions because anything you say would be so stupid it would be laughed at and outright retarded. You just pretend that you're smarter and better than everyone else when in reality you are just a whiny normalfag.
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No.53650
>>52958
I like the idea, but I can't see myself using it if they're only going to make browser wallets.
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No.53651
Fucking hell, does every conversation here have to be derailed to talk about communism?
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No.53670
>>53651
i think its this one guy shitposting. he always makes really long /pol/ shitposts
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No.53673
>>53641
>Yet you act like one
You project one on me which is different.
>Corporate tyranny is only possible via government.
I don't see why, and even if that was the case, what's to keep them from creating said government? or anything they need to control the public?
>monopolies are an economic issue and your sperging about them without understanding of economics only furthers your stupidity.
You're the only one that mentioned economics, i don't know what you're talking about
><Hurr durr corporations are equally as bad for the "small man(TM)", support le enlightened centrist instead
So i'm now centrist? sure dude, i'm everything you don't like.
>For the average person, a corporation doesn't use guns to get his money
What's to keep them from doing that or setting another organization that would do that or something similar in case it benefits them? again, why would they play fair?
>For an average person economic opportunities do mean something
Economic opportunities to work a dead end job for a megacorp? can't you see how corps kill any opportunity for small businesses and self employment? but sure call me the retard.
>Because you don't automatically gain an ability to "allow" anything when you're "on top"
You do if you have the power to do so, how's a small business with a better product going to compete with the megacorp with billions on the bank? the corp could as easily just hire a hitman and kill the little fucker for trying to compete, why the fuck not? hiring a hitman would be way cheaper than investing in your own R&D, production and marketing, at the end of the day the corp only cares about its profits, nothing else.
>For your brainless empty head - competition does allow greater choice, lower prices and and limits owners' power - all just as an immediate benefit, not even talking about long-term improvements like innovation and quality.
Tell me something i don't know already, competition is about yielding the greatest profits, not about innovation and choice, those often come as side effects, but that's about it.
>Brilliant logic, i don't even have to point anything out, only wonder how can one get so much shit in head.
So you don't have a counter point? i don't think it's that brilliant, seems like common sense to me, but i'll take the compliment, first non retarded thing you've posted.
>NPC-tier, that like saying oligopolies are better than free markets because oligopolies allow competition when monopolies do not.
So you're agreeing with me that that logic makes no real sense? nice, we are getting somewhere, damn for a moment i thought you were actually retarded.
>Pic related. Teough you couldn't even manage to make that argument properly.
That's hilarious, you're basically agreeing with me but you think that is a counter argument, a counter argument against your projections and misunderstandings of me, damn nigga you're killing my sides.
>Aka, enlightened centrist definitely-not-leftist.
Just a good old anarchist for the most part, and definitely not leftist, i've had this sort of argument against statists, i have to say, you two have way more in common than you realize or are willing to admit.
>Because then it would become a state, not a corporation. That's another level of stupidity.
Indeed, so at that point it makes no real difference for the average person, wait a second, that was my point from the start, what a coincidence.
>Because their interventions and unfair practices would be punished and not encouraged and protected, like they do with a state.
Punished? by who? the brain dead normies? think you're putting too much faith in the average guy to know and care, not that they'd know in the first place and they'd be told not to care anyway, they have the power and influence, they'd control everything, your delusions require corps that play completely fair and are not after their own interests and a public that's an expert on everything and deeply cares about the ethics of the organizations he trades with and that doesn't sounds like the real world to me.
>You don't make a point, you're just a little whiny dishonest fence sitter. You don't proclaim a ban on "corporations" and don't offer any solutions because anything you say would be so stupid it would be laughed at and outright retarded. You just pretend that you're smarter and better than everyone else when in reality you are just a whiny normalfag.
I don't offer a solution because i don't have one yet, i simply see a lot of problems with yours and others people's approach, i'd rather be a fence sitter than choose which side of the bridge is the best to jump off from.
Last post you're getting from me, it's not good for you to be in such a bad mood so calm down, you keep misunderstanding and projecting so it's quite pointless to continue anyway.
I do have to admit if you were just pretending to be retarded to bait me into replying you're doing an excellent job, i'll give you that.
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No.53676
>>53673
>You project one
Not really, you act like a genuine leftist
>what's to keep them from creating said government?
Loss of business. You don't just come and claim you're government - you have to make people believe in your legitimacy.
>You're the only one that mentioned economics, i don't know what you're talking about
Fucking retarded.
>So i'm now centrist?
You're a fuck who tries hard to not show any serious position, only whine and shitpost.
>What's to keep them from doing that or setting another organization that would do that or something similar in case it benefits them?
Because the same thing applies to that organization.
>why would they play fair?
To not lose.
>can't you see how corps kill any opportunity for small businesses and self employment?
They don't. It's government regulation and grants that do that.
>You do if you have the power to do so
You don't get such power as a corporation., you stupid fuck.
>how's a small business with a better product going to compete with the megacorp with billions on the bank
By having a better product. That obliviousness shouldn't even be possible.
>hiring a hitman would be way cheaper than investing in your own R&D
Prove it. Even with current worthless police hiring a hitman to remove any of the appearing competitors would be the more unsustainable the shittier your product is.
>at the end of the day the corp only cares about its profits, nothing else
Which is why we see so many NPOs, corps supporting free software and giving brouzouf to charities, as well as being more effective at that than government with stolen shit.
>competition is about yielding the greatest profits
Go back to gender studies class, you stupid leftist. I won't bother explaining such basic economics.
>seems like common sense to me
<They don't go in hand but sometimes they do which means they always do
>So you're agreeing with me that that logic makes no real sense?
Obvious shitposting. Your posts have no logic. You didn't even make such statement for me to "agree" with.
>you're basically agreeing with me
Keep strawmanning, it will surely work one day.
>a counter argument against your projections and misunderstandings of me
<I won't do anything but make broad claims and shitposting so anything you say about me is misinterpreted
>Just a good old anarchist for the most part, and definitely not leftist
Old anarchists are almost exclusively leftists and you're using their claims. Who are you if not one of them? Describe how your speshul anarchism is not leftist or BTFO.
>so at that point it makes no real difference for the average person
>at that point it makes no real difference for the average person
At that point they stop being corporations. But keep trying to equivocate these two.
>Punished? by who? the brain dead normies?
By organizations whose work is to protect property rights of people.
>think you're putting too much faith in the average guy to know and care
You're putting too much care in the average guy to live and prosper.
>they have the power and influence, they'd control everything
But they haven't yet. Wow, looks like they cannot.
>your delusions require corps that play completely fair
Strawman. For shit to work it requires for corps to not be able to become a government, as it's the only thing that can make their unfair games sustainable. Otherwise, even with governments of today, absolute majority of corporations do not participate in lobbyism, bribes and other attempts to use governmental force to its advantage.
>are not after their own interests
"It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities but of their advantages." Adam Smith. Not that difficult to understand now, is it?
>public that's an expert on everything
Not really. Just the part of the public that does. If you want to burn your dollars, literally, nothing is stopping your from doing it, yet most people don't, because they aren't completely irrational. It also helps to incentivize making rational choices by allowing irrational ones to fail.
>deeply cares about the ethics of the organizations he trades with
Not really, only if the organization's actions directly present a malicious threat. You wouldn't go to a store whose owner would try to rob you, would you? Especially if you're paying brouzouf specifically to prevent such actions, it'd be even more clear they it's a bad decision to do so, as you get the opposite results.
>I don't offer a solution because i don't have one
So you're basically a blackpillfag. Well, your job is failed, as your attempts are secured only by your ignorance.
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No.53681
>>53670
Cyberpunk has always been political just like the personal is political and everything is political, therefore I can inject my real world politics in this board because I have nothing better to say about the supposed topic at hand.
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No.53707
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No.53711
I'd like to interject kill all commies
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No.53714
>>53711 (checked)
>dubs of truth
Hear, hear!
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